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Is there hope for Fallout yet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/4o7b9c/todd_howard_briefly_touched_on_fallout_4_dialogue/
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>>341485595
>direct link to reddit
wew lad
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>>341485704
Were you triggered?
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How can ANYONE hate this man?
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>>341485595
tl;dr it was too complex
In the next fallout game there will only be 2 choices,
1: accept quest
2: murder questgiver
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>>341485994
>2: murder questgiver
>essential marked NPC
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>>341485994
More like:
1. accept quest
2. accept quest sarcastically
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>>341485994

More Like
1: Accept Quest
2: Sarcastically Accept Quest
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>>341485595
JUST
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>>341486303
>>341486348

Horry Sheet
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>>341486432
WORKS
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>>341485994
In the Todd game, theres only 2 options to choose:
>1: Pre-order
>2: Death
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>>341485994
>murder questgiver
>bethesda ever doing this again
You'll have essential NPC's and you'll fucking like it, buy my game.
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>>341486303
>>341486348

sarcasticmind
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>>341485595
Tl;dr for people who don't want to click a leddit link or just are lazy

>Gamespot interviewer asks Todd how do you think about Fallout 4 being more of a shooter than rpg
>Todd says he know the rpg/dialogue system didn't work too well in Fallout 4, he wanted an interactive conversation with the new dialogue system
>He says the shooting mechanics of Fallout 4 are amazing
>He says he will take all the feedback he is receiving and think 'longterm'
>He says he is listening to the feedback and giving the players more choices/rpg elements in the dlcs
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>>341485994
Nah.
You get to move your stick in four directions.
Sarcastic
Friendly
Unfriendly
Shocked

That decides the tone of your character's voice and the look on his face, while he's saying the only lines he's able to say.
You just decide how it looks/sounds, not what's being said.
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>>341486868

What a fantastic non-answer.
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I unironically like Toddposting.
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>>341485595
He's beating around the bush so hard It's cringeworthy.

It's shit and literally everyone acknowledges the fact that it's shit.

I don't care if it's attempting something new and it's valueable feedback, fucking make an open beta if you want feedback. People who bought F4 bought a finished product, not a right to be your guinea pig.
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>>341486868
That almost sounds like he isn't saying anything at all.
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>>341486868
Has he heard the feedback of people wanting obsidian to develop another fallout?
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>>341485994
>2: murder questgiver
> tfw this is actually more complex than the dialogie system we have now
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>>341485704
You're far to late anon. GG was the final siren call that brought in all the crossposting reddit fucks that use this as an ebin le funny place to shitpost and nothing more. Let go.
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>>341486931
>accept quest sarcastically
>accept quest passive-aggressively
>accept quest with a family friendly joke
>accept quest while acting tsundere (i-it's not like I want your quest, baka npc)
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>>341485595
Todd is famous for that Sears commercial about air conditioning, right?
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Elder Scrolls 6 chat wheel leaked
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>>341486868
Does this motherfucker think RPGs are only about dialogue choices or something?
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>>341487020
We all do anon.
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>>341485595
I liked the voice acting dialogue. Gave more immersion to the game. Maybe next time add more voice actors a la Saints Row along with a traditional silent mode?
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>>341485994
>murder questgiver
Whoa slow down son
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>>341485962
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>>341487259
>all of /v/ now remembers the sorry wreck that was Oblivion's "coercion" system
Thanks a lot.
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>>341485595
>w-we just wanted to make it more interactive!
Snice fucking when does "interactive" equals to "less options and player involvement".

Does he even fucking know the definition of interactive? Because the dialogue system in F4 is the exact opposite.
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>>341487462
Actual dialogue (sarcastic, no means yes, yes, unreasonably angry) was shit tho
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>>341487020
I like both Toddposting and all Bethesda games.
If you couldn't enjoy Fallout 4 you're seriously damaged as a person
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>"I think our fans are used to it over time, that we do like to try new things. And we'll have some successes, you know I think the shooting in Fallout 4 is really good, I think it plays really well. Obviously, the way we did some dialogue stuff, that didn't work as well. But it was I think -- I know the reasons we tried that, to make a nice interactive conversation, but [it was] less successful than other things in the game. For us, we take that feedback, and I think long term.
>Or other things we did in the game, like the choices you have in the end. When we have an opportunity with something like Far Harbor, like "Okay, how many ways can it end?" Let's give them more choice with something like that. And so it's not just a one-off, meaning Fallout 4 comes out and then we forget about it.
>I think it's an ongoing thing, and I think that kind of feedback we get is really, really helpful. And you're right that everybody does have an opinion, and I think that's good."

What did he mean by this? Sweet lies?
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>we like to try new things

Ah yes, I loved Fallout "Oblivion with Guns" 3 and Fallout "Skyrim with guns and ME dialogue" 4.
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>>341487624
I don't remember using it once, it's so weird and dumb
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>>341487678
>If you couldn't enjoy Fallout 4 you're seriously damaged as a person
You either had to shut off all thinking or had already accepted the games fate for that to be possible.
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>>341487462
no
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I'll admit its nice to hear that they think it was a mistake post-launch.
Doesn't stop F4 from being a shallow mess, but Far Harbour showed they were willing to listen to criticism and it was a much better experience than the main game with branching dialogue options, multiple endings and a much better story.
Honestly if they had far-harbour's level of quality in the base game, it'd be an easy 9/10 instead of a 6.
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Reddit aside, I like how open Todd is to feedback. He seems like the kind of guy who can look through a giant, steaming, pile of shit opinion, and be able to dig out the flecks of truth within it that allows him to meditate constructively on them.

I'm glad he knows the dialogue system in Fallout 4 didn't work.

What I want him to acknowledge however, is that the way SPECIAL was handled and how skills were done away with in favor of the new SPECIAL structure did not work well, and hurt the system more than it tried to ease the system - a system that was already very basic and easy to understand.
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>>341487678
no
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>>341487707
I find it a bit hard to follow. It's like he's typing like some kind of slow-talking monotone robot man would talk. That's as close an analogy as I can come up with. It's strange...
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>>341487259

thanks for remind me of that piece of shit
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>>341488107
Agreed.
The settlement building being restricted by charisma was a pain in the arse and didn't really make sense.
I'd love a return to F3 or NV's stat systems.
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>>341487678
I know it's you Todd.
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>>341486931

All of which still means nothing when the results are the same.

I'd rather we just went back to not having a voiced character, had extensive dialogue options, and the game returns to being a negotiation / faction simulator instead of a fucking hold W and shoot simulator.
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>>341487678
Nah

It was an incredibly mediocre shooter, with no RPG elements, level scaling bullet sponge enemies.

Just admit you fell for the marketing scheme target to normies

fallout 3, 4, skyrim, and oblivion were all really bad games
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>>341485962
It's unfathomable.
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>>341487568
Is this photoshopped?
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>>341488328
my little todd can't possibly be this adorable
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>Playing fallout 4 with my bro
>Were talking to Nick
>Choose "sarcastic"
>"the great clockwork dick is stumped?!"
>holy shit LOL
>we're cracking up
>laughing so hard
>were shaking the couch and high fiving
>bro is having a fucking fit
>I can barely move
>bro laughing more and more
>starts turning red
>Still laughing
>can't breath
>bro grabbing his sides in laughter
>its no use
>he can't contain then
>explodes
>scream as I realize my bro has exploded all over me in a hail of gore and sides
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>>341488179
>I find it a bit hard to follow
That's exactly the point. He is avoiding the uncomfortable topic by inlcuding as little merit in his response as possible. He is just spouting generic meaningless garbage to get it over with.
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>>341486868
>an "rpg" getting rpg elements in dlc
That's advanced Jewery.
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>>341487707
>And so it's not just a one-off, meaning Fallout 4 comes out and then we forget about it.
I think he's a wee bit upset Fallout 4 came out to much fanfare and then no one cared after a couple weeks.
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>>341487884
Tell me about it
>"Oh, this NPC doesn't like me enough to tell me about something.
>BribeBribeBribeBribeBribeBribe
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>>341488404
>>341485962
I honestly like Todd, but I love Todd the Liar even more

As an aside, at least he can admit it didn't just work
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>>341488410

umm no?

why would you think that?
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>>341487568
DELETE THIS
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>>341488325
those are shit too

just dont lock key things behind perks and its fine. or give a heads up in character creation. very frustrating to make a character only to find out power armor is very heavy on INT for example.
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>>341488107
Todd is not called a liar for no reason.
He tells you what you want to hear. It's all PR, if you can't see through that you're blind.
He would tell you that he will fix everything you have problems with for the next game, and then he makes another casualized console trash for maximum sales.
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>>341488410
No
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>>341485595
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>>341488404
Not gonna lie. He is a handsome man.
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>>341485595
>there are STILL people who don't get dialog is the way it is because of voiced MC

They're not backing back from this either, expect next TES to get the same treatment.
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>>341488479
>no sex

Don't post this ever again, because I wouldn't read it.
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I heard you guys want a non-casualized Elder Scrolls game. Not until I am in Bethesda Game Studios.
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>>341485595
>reddit link
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>>341488325

That especially. Having successful settlements and being able to do anything with them required to have at minimum, 5 points in Charisma.

There was no reason for SPECIAL to be twisted into what it was. The only reason I can think of is that they didn't have enough time or dedicate enough time to reworking the SPECIAL system, so they just kind of took Skyrim's astral perks system, remasked it as SPECIAL, and did what they could to get it working well enough for release.
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>>341488364
>All of which still means nothing when the results are the same.
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I think he means it. the backlash has been pretty unanimous and we know that there was internal disagreement over it.

Added to the fact that it takes a LOT more effort and money to do something that has proved largely controversial, I don't think they're going to do it for Fallout 5 and TES VI.
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>>341485962
I like him.

He seems like the friendly sort you'd have a drink with then laugh about some shit
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>>341485962
Mr. Howard, sir, um, I am terribly sorry, but can you like hand Fallout franchise back to Mr. Cain?
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>>341488536
Probably
>>341488605
Moria makes me happy
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>>341488179
Its how most people talk in interviews where they try to explain things quickly whilst not fucking up.
I sound the exact same explaining stuff to clients because I have to dumb down what we actually do with the software for them, and not mention that its hilariously out of date and relies on absolutely ancient legacy systems.
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>>341485994
that would honestly be better than trying to mask it as a proper dialog system
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>>341488381
Problem with F4 is that Bethesda clearly doesn't want to keep making RPGs anymore and are slowly acclimating their audience to that fact. Skyrim was the first step, Fallout 4 second. I wonder what they're removing in next Elder Scrolls.
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>>341488660
It would be way too hard and resource sucking for TES to have a voiced protag unless they race locked you, because no way are they going to record a male and female voice for humans/mer and beast races.
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>>341488581
Sorry let me post the unedited one.
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>>341488802
I really hope so. No voiced dialogue expands what the writers can do and branching convo trees are possible.
It'd also save the company the time and money required for a voice-actor and implementing all their lines.
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>>341488605
the fact that this became a normie meme is a good sign. It means that literally nobody, not even the casual players, liked the dialogue change.

We know Bethesda likes to listen to the normies.
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>>341488805
I too, fellow Anon, would like to hang out and buy his game
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>>341488807
you piece of shtacko
I piss on you from above
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This is why Todd is as successful project leader as he is.

Being open and accepting of criticism and acknowledging the flaws of your game is critical to adjusting and pruning and improving the experience for the next go around.

He's the kind of project leader I want to be if I ever actually get into game development.
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>>341485595
man that is the best Todd Howard interview I've ever seen.
I can't believe Todd actually punched the guy in the face when he made that "see that mountain" joke
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>>341488907
Gets me every fucking time
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>>341489189
It's all a lie.
The next game will be even more simplified.
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>>341488531
>>341486868
It's actually confirmed he doesn't like RPG's or know anything about Fallout. So Bethesda got him to work on a fallout RPG. Whew.

I'm convinced he's only around at all because he is friends with someone important at Bethesda.
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>>341487568
why is todd in this picture with kaitlyn jenner, the bazinga girl and the prime minister of israel?
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>>341488868
>Problem with F4 is that Bethesda clearly doesn't want to keep making RPGs anymore and are slowly acclimating their audience to that fact.

I actually disagree. They just don't want to make story-heavy RPGs focused on decisions because that's simply not the kind RPG Bethesda. It was obvious from F3 they gave Fallout the TES job aka made it more about dicking around in the world and making your won story along the way. You especially see this when people compare F3 to NV and fail to see why latter was different and better to fans of the originals.
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BUY MY GAME or I am pulling the trigger.
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>>341489189
>>341489217
Yes. Of course you want to be like m- I mean Todd. Why don't you convince friends and family to buy his game?
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>>341485962
>How can ANYONE hate this man?
HE'S TOO HANDSOME AND TALENTED. I HATE HIM.
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Mom, I want to become Todd Howard when I grow up!
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>>341489006
When you can lay it out that simply that they're getting less, not more, then they'll care.
There's nothing normies hate more than realizing they're getting less than something/someone else.
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>>341485595
No
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>>341488541
>implying that wouldn't work in real life
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It was shit in 3 too though because they didnt really offer any kind of role playing. And in 4 its the same way to an even bigger extreme. Bethesda is good at everything except the role playing part, they're lucky these games are fun to mod and have large communities for it.
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>>341485595
I wonder if Todd is aware of toddposting.
Or all the loverslab mods.
How do you think he feels about both of those?
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>>341488819
>I sound the exact same explaining stuff to clients because I have to dumb down what we actually do with the software for them
This is not comparable.

Software is something that is required even by people who don't give a single shit about it.

On the other hand vidya is purely a hobby and as such anynoe interested in it should have at least basic understanding of the topic.

I'm working at a gun shop right now and I never spout generic dumbed down garbage like that. If I get a question I answer it the best I can with as much detail I can and if anything is not clear I then proceed to explain it even further.

Including so little merit in your response is a sign of being unprofessional and disrecplectful towards the person you are talking to. He doesn't actually give a shit about answering the question, he just want to get it over with as fast as possible. Fuck that.
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>>341489578
Nah. I'm saving up for spidey's game. It probably has more RPG elements than Fallout 4 does.
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>>341485595
Seriously, what was the benefit of having only four options and paraphrasing them?
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>>341489841
Todd Howard is probably personally responsible for about 20% of toddposts.
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>>341488410
I think so, he looks a bit taller
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>>341489836
>Bethesda is good at everything except the role playing part
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>>341489836
>Bethesda is good at nothing except for the marketing part
ftfy
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>>341490103
You're right, they're shit at just about everything these days.
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Here is the link to full gamespot interview with Todd Broward. It is worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLmlxX8QeVI
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>>341489836
>Bethesda is good at everything except the role playing part
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>>341489917
It allows you to hide the fact that in reality, there is only one option.
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>>341490254
>that part where the interviewer makes a remark about his height and Todd starts screaming and throwing punches at everyone in the studio
What the fuck why didn't they cut it
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>>341490103
Yes. Which is why they were a HORRIBLE fit for a property like Fallout from the beginning. And to be fair, the signs were there from the get-go. We just didn't pay attention.

>games known for their story, player choices and memorable characters
>Howard is making a big deal about how awesome it is that you can fire teddy bears from makeshift rocket launchers in Fallout 3
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>>341486931
>WHERE'S MY SON ;)
Take my money
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>>341490241
The gunplay was halfway decent in 4, but that might just be because 3 was so terrible in comparison.

Some of the writing was good, so they have a decent writer or two working there. Everything else though...shit man. The graphics, the writing that was bad was really bad, the sound design was meh, the quests weren't very engaging.
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>>341490254
Damn, Todd is one hell of a sexy American fella

I want to be like gim
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>>341489469
>>341489469
>So Bethesda got him to work on a fallout RPG.

He's just a PR guy, anon.
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>>341485595

No. They'll "fix" it by removing options and making it even less complex than it already is.
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>>341485962
By not being him. It's like Anthony Burch.
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>>341490103
as a sandbox game, you can do anything you want. the game just wont recognize it and let you role play as such. in 4 its slightly better cause you can choose a faction to follow the story with but its still pretty weak. and skyrim suffered from IM THE MASTER OF EVERYTHING
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>>341490564
Todd will revamp the dialogue system in fall out 5 to only include 2 options a smiley face and a frowny face.
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>>341487259
Make a 1 sec 100pts charm spell, never deal with that shitty wheel again.
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>>341490254
Do you think Todd knows about all the sex mods for his games?
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>>341490914
Damn check out this comic genius.
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>>341491154
He obviously does.
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>>341485595
>Todd Howard admits dialogue system "didn't work as well"

yeah no fucking shit he would say this. He has to so he can pretend he has any sort of credibility and talent as whatever the fuck his role is.

he would never had said this if for whatever reason the dialogue system was lauded as amazing instead.

todd may have had some talent as a designer but him and whatever team he leads now are just a bunch of hacks who are lucky that they are pretty much the only ones in the market of making the large open world game piggy backing of the work and engine from whoever the fuck it was who worked and made morrowind with him.
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At least we can hope TES VI won't have this shit model then.
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>>341488907
I still don't know what these people have to do with Fallout.
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>>341487259
I'm probably the only one, but I liked doing those.
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>>341491283
Does he know /v/ posts various different pics/edits of him here?
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>>341485595
It never ceases to amaze me how Bethesda games are in development forever and yet they always come out half assed and shallow as all hell. What the fuck do they do with all those development years? Not engine work, that's for certain. Sit with thumbs up their asses and jerk off to mountains or something?
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>>341485595

Good. Now make me an Elder Scrolls 6 where I can be an absolute bag of dicks and treat all the elves like shit.
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>>341491690
yes i do
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Also a really stupid decision to give your character a pre-defined story and character. And if they're going to keep doing voices they should offer more voices to choose from.

>pick a line
>says it like a sarcastic nu-male
>muh immersion
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>>341491690
We should spam bethesda.net of fake mods with just an empty .esp and put one of these edited images of Todd as the mod picture
He will know
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>>341490679
>as a sandbox game, you can do anything you want.

Like what? You can't interact with the world in many ways other than killing the enemies within it. You can't run a shop, have a family, alter anything physically or discover anything worthwhile aside from copy and pasted environments.
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>>341491552

The woman on the left was a VA. The other two? Literally nothing.
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>>341489578
wasn't that already supposed to be todd ?
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>>341492151
dont post things that are just wholly incorrect. do your bit to make this a better place.
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>>341491416
>Say its great.
FUCKING HACK TODD.
>Say it was a mistake.
FUCKING HACK TODD.

Seriously; bethesda is shoddy at so many things but your logic is borderline retarded.
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>>341487259
>>341487624
I had actually forgotten.
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>>341491684
me too

its so silly and stupid that I can't help but like it. I wouldn't want anything like that in a proper RPG, though.
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>>341491416
>he would never had said this if for whatever reason the dialogue system was lauded as amazing instead.

No fucking shit. What the fuck do you think he meant when he said " didn't work as well" ? He obviously meant that it got a lot of negative feedback.
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here's what toddposting is according to reddit :
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>>341491690

I bet some of his underlings print of the edits and plaster them around the office.
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>>341485962
The only thing I know of this man is that he hired Peter Hines and has released shitty games and false promises.
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>>341492947
thanks for the update, reddit!

be sure to keep us posted
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>>341492947
warning: autism

At least they are self aware.
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>>341492947
I fucking hate these meme spouting fucks so much. I really hope redditard screenshots this.
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>>341488903
I hadn't thought of this. Hopefully, this means voiced protag is out
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>>341491754
>What the fuck do they do with all those development years?
Most of it is just Todd spinning around in office chair and cutting up documents containing concepts, mechanics, features etc that would go into the game.
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>>341493685
>>341493852
>>341493874
Three kinds of people
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>>341488903
>unless they race locked you
SHUT UP DON'T GIVE HIM ANY IDEAS
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>>341492947
Is this supposed to be ironic or serious? I have never been to reddit
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>>341494096
And bullying dreamboy.
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>>341494129
Ironically seriously. That's what passes as humor
>>341493874
This came out angrier than when I said it in my head.
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>>341494129
I'm pretty sure this is 100% serious and they really thought toddposting was parallel universe shenanigans.
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>>341492947
Wow. They are both memespouting fucks who talk about memes and 4chan outside of 4chan, the source of modern shitposters (esspecially frogposters), the ones who shit up 4chan the most, and they fail at even understanding what Toddposting even is. What a pitiable waste of a life.

This is what happens when people don't lurk I guess.
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>>341485595
>"didn't work as well"
Fucker is still trying to sugar coat it?
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>>341494020
That issue alone won't stop them from doing a voiced protagonist. They'd gladly just do one male voice and one female voice for the PC.
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>>341494456
They're pathetic but are you any better? Don't get so upset.
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>>341494129
Completely serious, but they pretend it's ironic to save face.
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>>341494129

They're trying to emulate 4chan on that subreddit but don't fully "get" it (not that there's much to get). It's like watching foreign movies that are attempting to copy American action movies. They hit all the major beats but don't understand why.
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>>341485595
No, there is not.


Obsidian laid down a good foundation on a pisspoor, old as fuck, wrong engine.

First, get a good engine.
Then fire everyone at Bethesda, leads included.

Bring in:
- CDPR
- Obsidian
- InExile
- Freelancer previous Black Isle people

and make a proper Fallout 3, and fallout 4.


>links to reddit
>Todd "admits" "didn't work well"
First, T'oddiq should admit that NOTHING FUCKING WORKED. Minecraft in Fallout is the dumbest idea - it works, but shouldn't be traded in for worldbuilding and meaningful story.


Previous fallouts had deep, rich, customizable character experiences - S.P.E.C.I.A.L., perks, skills, etc.

Nothing matters now.

Dialog was affected by your nimbleness, by your wit. Since Fallout 3, hell, Oblivion, it's not the case. Fallout as a series is dead, and Far Harbor is nothing but a far cry from what it should have been.

Fuck Fallout 4, Fuck newspapers, but mostly fuck TODD HOWARD and SHITHESDA.
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>>341485962
How could anyone come to despise this delightful ragamuffin?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler


Looks are meant to deceive.
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>>341492947
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>>341486931
>Tfw this mechanic would be fun on top of a good dialogue system
>Tfw it will never be fully realized
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>>341488802
Where can we leave feedback? Just the Bethseda forums?
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>>341495075
Wow it's like /b/ circa 2006
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>>341495075
Cancer. These are the type of funposters you see every day.
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>>341494659
Well, at the very least I recognize that this is all mostly inane bullshit, a waste of my time, and I probably should be doing something besides engaging in all this stupidity.
I'm also not a meme spammer, and don't bring this place up anywhere besides here, because I'd like to keep my job, and associating with 4chan in publice isn't the best way to do that.
I'd say that the mere act of recognizing the issues, and not engaging in anywhere near as much stupidity does in fact make me better than them, yes.
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>>341492526
It stems from a deeper problem.

F3: Oblivion with guns
Skyrim: F3 without guns
F4: Skyrim with guns

Hm, what does this mean?
Oh, right, reused shit engine with tacked on shit that doesn't work. Voiced player characters. Shit customization - not cosmetics for fucks sake, diverse builds. No deep, rich dialog system, just a streamliend horseshit system that is YES NO(YESLATER) and Sarcastic yes. Story is balls to the walls retarded, no likable, sensible factions or faction quests, cut stuff sold as DLC, pre-war JET, etc.

Should i go on listing all the sins F4 does?
Fallout 4 is like a remotely better Windows 10 launch. Nobody in their right mind would want to play it, but it's the new shit and people sort of give into it - which is fucking wrong, but it happens.

PS. Don't install windows 10, or try to rationalize the horseshit mess that is F4.
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>>341492947
>You have to learn about QPUposting to know what Toddposting is

God damnit Reddit
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>>341494129
Its both but not inbetween. They pass it around that 4chan is "Whacky" and "Dank" and go to places like that to vent. You'll frequently find "Lmao >mrw XD" on random places on Reddit, and /r/4chan is the buildup of that.
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>>341495409
Fair enough
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>>341492947
>"""new""" """found""" """memes"""
Can't different sites just have their own inside jokes?
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>>341494725
>Fallout on REDengine

Although, engine doesn't mean jack shit if the dev doesn't know how to use it properly
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>>341485704
>being trigged by links

I suppose you mock tumblrinas for the same shit too, huh?
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>>341495075
Man those guy sure are hip with there dank ass mays
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>>341489890
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>>341488807
who?
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>>341495734
This one in particular can't.
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>>341485872
He was totally triggered.

He thought 4 chan was his safe space from the reddit bullies. He demands a safe space, free from everything that triggers his delicate snowflake self.

lel
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>>341495836
Fallout on RedEngine would be glorious. WORKING LADDERS, M8. WORKING LADDERS.


Since Morrowind, no working ladders are found in Bethesda's games Fallout and Elder Scrolls.
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>>341496058
boy ur gonna need a safe space when I'm done with u
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>>341495919
How do you toss one's big boobs in the dumpster?
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>>341495734
Apparently not.
I honestly don't understand why people would do that.
If you want to post 4chan memes, just come here, lurk for a while until you understand the culture, and then start posting.
Why the hell would they create another subsite just so they can post 4chan stuff? Do people really still think this place is some hellhole that only the worst people mankind has to offer visit?
And moreover, why the hell do the very few who do come here no longer lurk before posting?
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CRYTEK FALLOUT WHEN?!
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>>341496261
You take the person attached to them and throw them in the dumpster too
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>>341495734
Reddit is an aggregate site, meaning it's based on finding stuff elsewhere to share. There are some dedicated areas that promote creativity on Reddit, but 95% of the site is just the testing ground for memes before they're shipped to Facebook for the general public.
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Fallout 4's dialogue system was better than its shooting.
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>>341496268
Nobody says lurk moar anymore. Just keep saying everytime you spot a minty fresh memer and maybe it'll catch on again.
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Man it's obvious Bethesda doesn't want to make RPGs anymore. Which is fine, make action games if you want, but why waste time with slowly stripping out RPG-elements? Just go full on action game, people will eat it up anyways.
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>>341496347
Crytek went to shit around C2.

>Proper successor to Crysis 1 never
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>>341487259
>having to watch the reaction of their potato faces to know which one to choose
>having to bribe once you reached the limit
I sorta had fun with it, but it certainly wasn't something I took seriously.
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>>341496402
That's just wasted resources tbqh smdh
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>>341496521
If I could mess with the site, I'd put a set amount of subreddits. That way they wouldn't devolve into circlejerk and if you don't want to know others opinions you can leave.
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>>341487568
>that toe cleavage on Kaley

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>341496830
I know. Maybe I should use them...
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>>341485994

Implying it's not going to just be "MASH X TO TALK".
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>>341485962
Liquid Todd was pretty cool
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>>341487259
It's been years since I've played oblivion. I honestly can't remember how that was supposed to work.
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>>341485595
>I know the reasons we tried that, to make a nice interactive conversation, but [it was] less successful than other things in the game.

it fucking failed horribly and he still won't admit voiced mc was a huge fucking mistake which is why they stripped dialog down in the first place
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>>341496648
Nobody says lurk moar anymore because redditors would just spout shit like "LE EPIC SEKRET KLUB MAY MAY" in response
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>shitting on reddit and FO4 in one thread
Thought you all might enjoy this.
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>>341494663
>>341495075
I honestly can't wrap my head around this. What's the point?
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>>341497827
How can someone be so delusional?
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>>341496970
>liking women that don't buy well fitting shoes

you're the worst type of foot fag.
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>>341497827
That last guy makes me sick
People like him are the ones ruining this series
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>>341488664

he looks like the bad guy from men in black when grabs the back of his head and stretches his face
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>>341497805
Just keep doing it. There no point in not doing it.
>>341497827
Anything as long as it makes them happy. Delusional bastards
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>>341497827
He's right about how easily maxed skills were and how clunky FO1/2 combat was but his FO4 dicksucking ruins it.
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>>341497805
>>341498505
murk loar.
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Please just let Obsidian make another Fallout, Todd.

I will kill myself if we don't see an announcement for one before 2020.
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>>341498679
I think I'll take clunky gameplay and good story and roleplaying over Call if wasteland 4: Fallout
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>>341498679
I dont know how people maxed out their character in New Vegas. I explored every location in NV, did every quest, etc. and only ever maxed out a handful of skills.
And it's not like FO4 is any better, where every character can get every perk and max their SPECIAL points.
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>>341498875
rlur kmoa
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Has the overall performance of the game improved since launch?

I wanna play again but i remember getting sub 30fps with a 970
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>>341498679
It's really overstated how clunky the combat in 1 and 2 was. It just takes a little getting used to.
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Reddit club is down the hall
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>>341495919
>B-boobs?

kek
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>>341495919
source? google and iqdb give nothing
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>>341488605
Always felt incomplete to me, desu.
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>>341500452
Just google fallout 4 piper porn. There should be a tumblr. Keep scrolling down until you find it
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>>341486868
If he really cared about RPG elements he wouldn't have made Fallout 4 the way it is. People have been bitching about the lack of RPG elements in Fallout 3 for years, he had plenty of time to rectify it but that's clearly just not the kind of game he wants to make.
He should just say so. People will bitch, but it's not like it's something anyone hasn't realised by this point.
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>>341485994
We need to automate 4chan with this system
1: shitpost
2: shitpost ironically
I'm getting tired of having to actually type in words to ruin a thread
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>>341487020
Do you think Todd likes Toddposting? Or even Toddposts himself?
I hope so.
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>>341487259
BRIBEBRIBEBRIBEBRIBEBRIBEBRIBEBRIBE
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>>341485962
I don't hate Todd, I just don't like his games
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>>341501391
Nah
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>People liked the RPG parts of 3 but didnt like the shooting
>They liked the shooting of 4 but said it wasnt enough like an RPG
Why do they keep bringing this up? like yeah its true but its your fucking fault. They are not opposite genres, its not like making the shooting mechanics not feel like shit suddenly makes the game less of an RPG.
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>>341494725
This fucking sucks so much. I love the fallout universe and it has so much potential. It's for that reason I can't help but want to buy fallout games. Unfortunately Bethesda is filled with incompetent subhumans that can't even be arsed to get a new engine with 8 years of development time. Fuck.
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>>341487259
>one weird thing oblivion nostalgiafags dont want you to see!
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>>341494725
>Fuck Fallout 4, Fuck newspapers
This one caught me off guard
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>>341505216
>you can't even back out of it
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>>341505330
>LoL Walk away dude XD
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The only game you can't climb that mountain is New Vegas because Obsidian put invisible walls all over them.
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>>341485595
Dialogue systems in general are a shit meme. It's even worse when every choice is just a variation of the same thing, and believe me, I'm not only accusing Fallout 4 of doing this.

Games should ONLY give you dialogue options when your choices actually make a difference, and Souls games manage to pull this off quite well. Pic semi related as it's not actually dialogue, but you get the idea.
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Todd always fucking does this.

After Oblivion was released he was all like "Yeah the combat was like fighting with chopsticks" then does fuck all to improve it in the next game.
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>>341506105
When did he say that?
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>>341506105
Guys, I swear, the next DLC I release will improve the combat system and speech options

Just buy the season pass already
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>>341496124
Hell the guys at Larian Studios managed to get working ladders in Divinity 2 and that was on Gamebryo
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>>341506425
>I think if you look at our previous stuff I sometimes equate it to fighting with chopsticks – you sit there and swing them in front of yourself

https://www.vg247.com/2011/01/25/skyrims-combat-detailed-no-more-chopsticks/
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>>341490254
I fucking love Todd's voice
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>>341490254
Why is Todd so feminine looking? I can't tell if it's the haircut, the voice, the manlet stature or all of the above.
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>>341485595
M-maybe Todd senpai really cares about video games.
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>>341485962
HATE MANLETS
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>>341490447
>>341490254
Damn manlets, when will they ever learn?
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>>341487678
I pirated it day one

Uninstalled it after 30 minutes
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>>341490568
>He wouldn't want to be Todd Howard
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>>341498421
Yeah he does
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>>341505216
Don't act like this same shit didn't happen in New Vegas. Plenty of lines gave you the exact same response as another one would
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>>341508386

It only happened a very few times in NV.

This is pretty much every conversation in 4.
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