>First dedicated game in history about archery. And a Zelda game to boot.
>Confirmed to be as big as Kyoto city (400km squared).
>Happy Mask Salesman returning after a 16 year hiatus.
>FFXV has joined the fray. "We’ve been inspired by all Western open world-type AAA titles, but the base of the inspiration behind traveling seamlessly in the world comes from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. That’s the best one."
>only 1/30th of the entire game has been shown and its already bigger than any current-gen game in size/amount of stuff you can do.
>Weather control, time control, air control; all confirmed.
>There's a dungeon that takes place inside of a giant rotating Clock Gear. CLOCK TOWN CONFIRMED?
>Nonlinear storyline possibly leading to multiple final boss climaxes ala Star Fox 64.
>Bosses can one-shot you.
>WOLF LINK CONFIRMED. MECHANICAL AUTOMATON PARTNER CONFIRMED.
>PROCEDURAL BURNING. REAL PROCEDURAL BURNING CONFIRMED.
>TOWNS CONFIRMED.
Talk about how this degenerate industry got BOTW'd by one game yesterday, and pay your respects to all the fallen.
R.I.P. Era of Shitty Video Games
11/18/2006 - 6/14/2015
YEAH BOI!!!!!!!
>>341464650
>First dedicated game in history about archery
*ahem*
>>341464991
/thread
>>341464650
>Nonlinear storyline possibly leading to multiple final boss climaxes ala Star Fox 64
>Star Fox invented multiple ending
>Implying Star Fox 64 had multiple endings, ito nly had two, one of which was canon
>Comparing a mediocre game to Zelda
>>341464650
>First dedicated game in history about archery
this isnt true, along with most of the rest of that shit you spewed. go false flag somewhere else
>>341464650
It looks great!
I think it looks amazing and will be great.
>only 1/30th of the entire game has been shown and its already bigger than any current-gen game in size/amount of stuff you can do.
But dont say stupid nigger shit like this.
>>341464650
Nintendo is a shit company. They forced Wii U owners to choose between buying another expensive console (that will certainly have droughts as bad as Wii U did) or playing a shitty, inferior version of Zelda.
Is this really how they repay their loyal fans for sticking with them when times are tough? By cucking with a shitty Zelda that they promised would be an exclusive? What a huge middle finger.
>>341465643
Looks just as good to me.
>>341465387
I seem to recall three final bosses in SF64.
>>341466091
Are you surprised? They have done shit like this for years.
Also they are shitty enough to still region-lock their handheld. As a European this alone is reason enough to no longer support them.
The guy who said there were 100 dungeons was right.
>>341467427
there isnt 100 dungeons
>>341464650
Nintendo is still fucking shit, but I'm definitely hyped for this game
>>341467706
Nintendo says otherwise.
>>341468168
no, nintendo is agreeing with me. there isnt 100 dungeons
>>First dedicated game in history about archery. And a Zelda game to boot.
Literally the first thing you wrote in the thread and it's already wrong.
>>341468462
no, theres more
>>341464650
That's enough.
>>341468546
theyve literally said nothing about hundreds of dungeons
>First dedicated game in history about archery. And a Zelda game to boot.
Can we stop being mean to this game please?
Since I want to give Nintendo one more chance, I'm going to initially give the game 10 points out of 10 when it comes out.
Then, for every minute of cutscenes and text that they throw at me, I take a point off. I will never tolerate cinematics in my video games, and Nintendo should be able to minimize the disgusting plague on video games known as "story". So surely they can pull it off without the game's score becoming too bad.
>>341466253
Dear God I hope you're taking the piss.
>>341464650
>Happy Mask Salesman returning after a 16 year hiatus.
Oh shit. Are masks confirmed?
>>341464650
Can I screencap your post and the repost it when the NX is a major flop and Zelda does nothing to help?
someboy please tweet this to aonuma, they still have a year, they can implement it
>still posting this shitty pasta
>AFTER THE GAME HAS BEEN REVEALED
Fuck you and your autism, it's triggering my autism. Stop this shit.
>>341464650
>MECHANICAL AUTOMATON PARTNER CONFIRMED.
What does this mean? Link can have party members? He can have a cute girl posse that follows him around?
>>Happy Mask Salesman returning after a 16 year hiatus.
wait what? what the fuck? where did you find this? DOES THIS MEAN MASKS ARE COMING BACK?
>>341465643
>laughing my fucking ass off off off off
>>341465643
Thank God they removed the bloom
>>341468905
who cares. do it anyway.
>>341469135
>>341469142
none of this shit is real you idiots. this is an old pasta
>>341468897
>>341469135
>>341469142
No, you fools. This is shit OP made up months and months ago. He posts it every other day.
>>341468462
Are you retarded?
>>341469503
are you? nowhere have they said there were hundreds of dungeons. fuck off and stop spreading misinformation
>>341469631
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/742781830751911936
I'm disgusted by the absence of a girl Link.
>>341469806
the shrines aren't dungeons you absolute muppet
they've stated this literally 100 times, they're separate, dungeons are still in the game
christ
>>341464650
>11/18/2006
Why this date? What happened?
>>341469806
again, nowhere do they say theres hundreds of dungeons. so once more, fuck off and stop spreading misinformation
sonyfags and xboxfags are losing their shit a BotW's existence now its almost funny how insecure console fanboys are, but honestly we should all be happy the big 3 are all fixing their own issues, the era of shitty games and even shittier business practices is coming to a close.
>>341466969
Region locking is the pits. I've passed up on games I'd give Nintendo and the producer's money for because of it. At least it's possible to circumvent now with modding. Iwata said that they'd consider no region locking a year or two ago, but who knows if they'll actually make the NX region free.
>>341467427
>>341467706
>>341468168
>>341468462
>>341468546
the shrines we have seen so far were very short and do not qualify as full dungeons
>>341464650
>>First dedicated game in history about archery.
Lol, no.
>>Confirmed to be as big as Kyoto city (400km squared).
So, smaller than most open-world games released in the past 5 years?
>>Happy Mask Salesman returning after a 16 year hiatus.
OK
>>FFXV has joined the fray. "We’ve been inspired by all Western open world-type AAA titles, but the base of the inspiration behind traveling seamlessly in the world comes from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. That’s the best one."
What does this have to do with BotW?
>>only 1/30th of the entire game has been shown and its already bigger than any current-gen game in size/amount of stuff you can do.
Source, please
>>Weather control, time control, air control; all confirmed.
Not the first
>>There's a dungeon that takes place inside of a giant rotating Clock Gear. CLOCK TOWN CONFIRMED?
OK
>>Nonlinear storyline possibly leading to multiple final boss climaxes ala Star Fox 64.
Not the first
>>Bosses can one-shot you.
"We want the Dark Souls audience"
>>WOLF LINK CONFIRMED. MECHANICAL AUTOMATON PARTNER CONFIRMED.
"We want The Last of Us audience"
>>PROCEDURAL BURNING. REAL PROCEDURAL BURNING CONFIRMED.
"We want the Minecraft audience"
>>TOWNS CONFIRMED.
OH MY GOD! GOTY!
>>341468928
I want this so much now
>>341468679
>>341468546
DUDE JUST SAY THAT YOU MEAN DUNGEONS YOU FUCKING RETARDED SHIT. REEEE
>>341468928
Holy fug
Imagine stacking bombs with timestop and flying across the map
>>341470151
>do not qualify as full dungeons
theyre NOT dungeons. theyre shrines
>>341468819
Not your personal blog, nobody fucking cares.
>>341468168
They also said OOT would take over 100 hours to complete.
>>341470301
we both stressed that we're talking about dungeons. there arent hundreds of them
>>341468168
That's not 100+ dungeons.
Those are about equivalent to the holes or graves in the ground from OoT. There's a lot of them, but most usually have 1-3 rooms and one objective only.
>>341470228
>So, smaller than most open-world games released in the past 5 years?
You know the only game to rival it is Xenoblade right?
Most open world games are fucking tiny.
>>341470228
>>>only 1/30th of the entire game has been shown and its already bigger than any current-gen game in size/amount of stuff you can do.
>Source, please
this based on the map size, more stuff you can do is an arguable within that area, but its certainly a lot more than was expectable it that area
>>341470489
its also a game for children
>>341470228
You sound insufferable.
what if there are no dungeons apart from the shrines?
every shrine gives you an ability already
>>341470904
Yes, and? It didn't take me 100 hours to finish the game when I was 9 years old. Not even to 100% it.
>>341470228
>>>Confirmed to be as big as Kyoto city (400km squared).
>So, smaller than most open-world games released in the past 5 years?
GTAV was 50 square miles.
This game is confirmed to be ~250 square miles.
Excepting procedural generated games, name 3 others that are bigger.
>>341470904
>its also a game for children
all video games are for children, and only delusional fools think otherwise
>>341471112
why dont you fucking idiots watch the presentation? they very very clearly state very frequently that shrines are NOT dungeons and that dungeons are still in the game
So... Wind Waker prequel confirmed?
who else is gonna be a /vegan/ in botw??
>>341470228
>So, smaller than most open-world games released in the past 5 years?
Nigger, name one outside of Xenoblade.
>>341469994
The day the NoGaemStation3 was released.
>>341470430
Apparently you cared enough to reply. A little counter-intuitive to your point.
>>341472207
Nobody cares about your opinion.
That's very different from caring about you shitting up the board with your retarded posts.
>>341465643
faggots, teh stream de-sature the colors
>>341472352
>shitting up the board
Excuse me? Offering a viewpoint is now "shitting up the board"? What am I supposed to do? Throw mindless praise at the game, when it hasn't even earned it yet?
Because that isn't how I roll.
>>341464650
>>WOLF LINK CONFIRMED.
>locked behind amiibo
>actually defending physical dlc
>>341465643
>put high quality screenshot next to stretched 240p screenshot from stream
lol okay
>>341472808
Wait wait wait. Are you serious?
THE GAME WON'T BE OUT FOR A YEAR. And they already have DLC planned?
>>341472490
There wasn't criticism or praise, just "I hate cinematics in gameplay", which is neither here nor there and has little to nothing to do with this game.
You blog posted. Whether you're a tumblrite whose stumbled down here because no one reads your blog, or you're from leddit and no one upboats you, this isn't for blog posts, so gtfo.
>>341471443
More like sequel? This means it's in the WW timeline for sure
>>341472490
>Offering a viewpoint
nigger you made a blog post about you are going to arbitrarily knock off points from zelda (and only zelda) for arbitrary reasons. you are holding it to a ridiculous standard for zero reason and supposing you went through with this shit, you would then go around spreading your dumb rating like if it was valid. youre like one of those video game reviewers. it was fun and long but you rated it 4/10 because it rained a few times and there was no options to wear mauve shirts
>>341472443
>4K
>WiiU
It's okay if Nintendo does bullshots.
>>341465643
Looks fine on my end.
>>341465643
top nx
bottom wii u
>>341472924
yeah, they have muliple amiboo planned to LOCK out not only skins and shit, but actual weapons are LOCKED out by the same amibo cancer.
>>341470228
>So, smaller than most open-world games released in the past 5 years?
400km^2 is the size of 10 Skyrims.
>>341472808
unnecessary and likely reskin variation of existing feature add on to reward you for loyalty =/= dlc
>first dedicated game in history about archery
Horizon Zero Dawn
>>341472984
>just "I hate cinematics in gameplay", which is neither here nor there and has little to nothing to do with this game.
Except for the fact that everyone here threw hate at Sony and MS and EA and Ubisoft for making nothing but "movie games". And you know what, I think that's a fair sentiment to have. I disliked their conferences too for being too "cinematic-y".
However, if Nintendo wants to prove that Zelda will be better than the latest sony rehash, then they have to completely exorcise the cancer known as "Story" from their game. Is this not a reasonable criticism against the industry trying to be more "hollywood"?
>>341473069
>nigger you made a blog post about you are going to arbitrarily knock off points from zelda (and only zelda)
Whoa, hold up there friend. Let me assure you, I'm holding every game at E3 up to this standard. I care about video games, not movies, so I'm not making exceptions for the latest bloated cash-in or reboot. if Zelda truly is a GOAT game beyond criticism, then it can handle my request easily.
>>341472985
We already got two sequels though. There were rumors of a prequel a while ago.
>>341472924
>He thinks this isn't about the money
>>341473352
>i-i-i don't actually want ti anyways
>>341473352
Can I access the content without paying a single dime? That includes all future reskins of content.
Why? Because I'm going to likely be paying 60 bucks for this game, and extra for the NX if they lock features behind that version. So why should I tolerate them locking anything behind another paywall?
>>341472924
Nah, it's just reskins of existing content as usual.
>>341473391
Zelda was first.
Just like Twilight Princess demonstrated wolf Link was pivotal to the story, before Okami was ever unveiled.
Nintendo is always one step ahead of the competition.
>>341473482
>knock off points for every 1 minute of cutscene or dialogue
>on a 10 point scale
>on a game we've spent six hours on purely in one small area
NO. fuck off. you wont get hit with story and plot like before, granted. but you are bound to end up at 0/10 even if you avoid all the plot purely because of how large this game will be
>>341474009
Okay, so why aren't those in the base game? The base game that I'll already be paying 60 dollars for, mind you?
>>341474123
They are, just not in that style.
>>341474009
>implying you are getting a wolf companion without the wolf link amiibo
>>341473328
>>341471934
>>341471179
>>341470859
>>341470859
>>341470803
>still no source of 400 sq ki
>>341474065
I don't see how that's my problem, anon. Look at the original Zelda on the NES. Very dated, but still an 8/10 game because it had barely any plot. And it's considered absolutely pivotal to the industry and how it evolved from simpler atari-like games.
I normally give a little more lenience, like maybe an hour of cinematics before I start ducking points, but this is Zelda. This is Nintendo's golden egg right behind Mario and pokemon. So I have higher expectations for it, especially when they're hyping it up as the second coming of sliced bread.
>submitting to day 1 physical DLC
>>341474407
http://www.gengame.net/2014/06/aonuma-compares-the-size-of-zelda-wii-us-hyrule-to-kyoto-japan/
>>341474317
Why not? I want that style, for 60 dollars. Even if it's one single pixel, that's mine. I'm paying for the game, you have no right to hold that back from me.
>>341474525
I already submitted to bullshit subscription fees I'll pay for what I want you little shit.
>>341470228
There is like no boss in any of the Dark Souls games that can one shot you unless you're an idiot and decided to keep your whopping 8 vitality without leveling it at all.
>>341474609
>Even if it's one single pixel, that's mine.
Except it isn't, when you carried out the transaction you didn't pay for that specific thing.
Not possible that Zelda is 400 km. Biggest map i can think of is Altis from Arma 3 which is 270 square kilometers and Dayz's Chernarus 225 km.
>>341474609
I understand the logic you're using, that you bought the disc and therefore everything burned into it should belong to you because it is yours now, but what about all the relics of development from the alpha and beta that remain on the disc? Are you going to be mad that those aren't accessible to you either? Essentially what I'm saying is that when you buy it and drop $60, it's the creator's decision to say what is yours on the disc and your job to figure out what that is before you spend the money. I hate to be part of the gaming community that agrees to just grin and bear the shitty things companies do, but that's just how it is I guess.
>>341473724
>remember before TP came out
>people were saying Link was going to die and the flood was going to happen
>it didn't
>same thing before Skyward Sword released
It's never going to happen. They will NEVER EVER make a game about it because it wouldn't have Link.
>>341474609
Stop acting so entitled anon. You didn't pay for that so you don't get it. You wouldn't walk into a store pick up a toy and say a candy bar is part of the toy because it was wedged into the box, it's literally the same principle.
>>341474987
>when any other publisher locks on disc content behind a paywall
>/v/ loses its shit
>when nintendo locks on disc content behind a paywall
>/v/ defends it
>>Confirmed to be as big as Kyoto city (400km squared)
Ah, no.
You realize that would mean a 20km * 20km map, right?
GTAV is about 5km * 7km.
Hyrule in this game will be smaller than GTAV world.
Mark my words.
>>341475401
Except for the people who defend Sony and Microsoft here, although the latter is rarely seen.
In any case its a skin.
>>341474987
When I paid for the game, I paid for everything related to it, including all past and future DLC.
Charging me even one penny extra ontop of the initial price is greedy and puts me off as a customer.
>>341475237
>but what about all the relics of development from the alpha and beta that remain on the disc?
That should be available too, maybe to modders. I've seen amazing things done with beta content left out of initial games.
>it's the creator's decision to say what is yours on the disc
Unfortunately for them, I'm the paying customer, so I'm always right. If I say that content is mine, the creator has no legal recourse, and he can either bend to my request, or I simply don't give him my money.
I'm sure all of us work hard for our money. I don't fancy seeing it squandered by greedy devs who decide that content needs to be chopped out A YEAR FROM RELEASE. I have to emphasize that part, where they're actively deciding on DLC before they even have the game finished.
>>341475541
You do know games that dwarf GTA have been released right?
>>341475135
XCX map is bigger that both of these and Aonuma said that Zelda's map is almost as big as XCX.
>>341475398
>Stop acting so entitled anon. You didn't pay for that so you don't get it.
I'm paying for Zelda. If you're chopping out content before the game is even out, to sell later, then to me you've committed fraud.
See, let me tell you something: I don't tolerate it when Sony or MS does this. So I'm not holding a double standard here. I dislike story games and DLC in general, incase you might've thought I was buying a PS4.5 or something.
>>341474456
OoT and ALttP must be fucking 0/10's for you then.
Every minute apparantly matters, and even ALttP, a game on the SNES that has no business having any cutscenes, had ~20-30 mins of cutscenes.
>>341475541
I've never played that game, but if it was anything like Grand Theft Bored 4, the plateau alone is bigger than it. Which we haven't seen all of.
I doubt GTAV is even bigger than Skyward Sword's sky world from end to end. I mean if you could run it.
I'm just making a point.
>>341468762
Crossbow training is more of a lightgun game than an actual archery game.
>>341475643
>When I paid for the game, I paid for everything related to it, including all past and future DLC.
You do realise that cuts off pretty much every game in existence to you right?
Anyway, no you didn't pay for that content you paid for the base game and that's it nothing more nothing less and you agreed to that when you handed over the money.
>>341474456
>And it's considered absolutely pivotal to the industry and how it evolved from simpler atari-like games.
Especially when it simply copied Ys, so pivotal.
>>341464650
>First dedicated game in history about archery. And a Zelda game to boot.
>Confirmed to be as big as Kyoto city (400km squared).
>Happy Mask Salesman returning after a 16 year hiatus.
>FFXV has joined the fray. "We’ve been inspired by all Western open world-type AAA titles, but the base of the inspiration behind traveling seamlessly in the world comes from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. That’s the best one."
>only 1/30th of the entire game has been shown and its already bigger than any current-gen game in size/amount of stuff you can do.
>Weather control, time control, air control; all confirmed.
>There's a dungeon that takes place inside of a giant rotating Clock Gear. CLOCK TOWN CONFIRMED?
>Nonlinear storyline possibly leading to multiple final boss climaxes ala Star Fox 64.
>Bosses can one-shot you.
>WOLF LINK CONFIRMED. MECHANICAL AUTOMATON PARTNER CONFIRMED.
>PROCEDURAL BURNING. REAL PROCEDURAL BURNING CONFIRMED.
>TOWNS CONFIRMED.
and it's still going to be boring.
>>341475979
I know you're joking, but I completely agree. The games had too much plot, and at the end of the day, I found myself button mashing through the boring descendents and their speeches. Also, that really, REALLY boring intro sequence.
And have we forgotten the 2+ hours of unskippable cinematics in Ocarina of Time? Have you ever tried replaying it, only to be slammed in the face with that boring opening cutscene?
>>341475541
XCX is about 20 miles * 20 miles.
It's a really fucking big world.
>>341475769
None of them that aren't content-deserts. What was that ATV game that holds the record for biggest game world? Does that make it better than Zelda?
>not posting the american cover
>>341475643
>so I'm always right
that's a dangerous mindset anon
>>341476000
>empty nothingness is better because it's bigger.
>I'd rather pay for a gallon of air than a cup of water when i'm thirsty
>>341476103
>You do realise that cuts off pretty much every game in existence to you right?
It cuts off the games with pricey DLC, and that's no loss really.
>Anyway, no you didn't pay for that content you paid for the base game and that's it nothing more nothing less and you agreed to that when you handed over the money.
I haven't handed them the money yet, which is my point. If they are gonna charge me even one penny extra from the base price, then I'm not getting a complete game, so I feel ripped off, and thus I don't waste money on it.
>>341476217
I'm 100% serious.
If you're docking the new Zelda on a better system 1 point per minute of cutscene, then it makes no sense to me why you wouldn't also dock the SNES game AT LEAST 1 point per minute of cutscene.
And so I have no idea why you play anything but platformers, especially Zelda games, since every Zelda game baring the first has at LEAST 10 minutes of cutscenes.
Fuck, even Link's Awakening has ~15 minutes. I have no idea how you slogged through that shit.
>>341476332
I can barely rationalize this as being based off of the original Gameboy display and I still don't like it (if it is even real)
>>341475643
>Charging me even one penny extra ontop of the initial price is greedy and puts me off as a customer.
So why exactly are you still buying video games?
Literally every developer currently making games are doing this, often to a larger degree cutting out swathes of meaningful content during development and saving it for DLC, big practitioners of this are Bethesda for example.
Anyway are you really going to complain at the lesser of the evils?
>>341476538
I've actually given up on Zelda altogether because of it. I rely mostly on shmups and indie games that aren't pretentious vehicles for telling the story.
Sadly, nobody shares these interests because this industry is so obsessed with a "cinematic narrative" and "plot".
>>341466091
The build of BOTW shown was wiiu.
What's the difference? If there was no nx version the wiiu version wouldn't be any better. Talk about grasping for straws in order to criticize a company.
>>341476545
it's gold
>>341476784
Anon, every shmup that isn't Ikaruga and the first Thunderforce has cutscenes.
>>341476618
>Anyway are you really going to complain at the lesser of the evils?
I hold them to the same standard. Being a "lesser evil" still makes them evil. As for your first point, I don't buy many games in the year, since the practice is so widespread.
Think of it like DRM. I dislike the PS4, WiiU and Xbox because the hardware is restrictive. I could say steam is better because it's the "lesser of the evils" but as a paying customer, I'd prefer my game to not be locked to any third party software. Get my point?
>>341477016
>what is Wolflame
>what is Crimson Clover
>not liking Ikaruga
Might need to play some better shmups.
>>341476931
>If there was no nx version the wiiu version wouldn't be any better.
Yes it would, the time spent porting and optimizing the NX version could be spent on more important things.
>>341476429
>It cuts off the games with pricey DLC
Define "pricy" one could say the amiibo is more bang for your buck because it can be used on multiple games as well as double as a collectable figure. And on top of that the content associated with it will always be available even when servers go down in the future
Anyway, you don't seem to have a real argument here. I mean you're complaining that your not getting the complete game when the actual game portion is totally in tact and then you go on to accept DLC that is not worse than this just because it's cheaper
>>341476967
I legitimately hate that they do this.
>>341477037
>>341475643
>When I paid for the game, I paid for everything related to it, including all past and future DLC.
>Charging me even one penny extra ontop of the initial price is greedy and puts me off as a customer.
There's a lot that I disagree with here, but instead I've got a serious question for you.
What's the difference to you between an expansion pack and DLC? Or do you HONESTLY believe that you deserve the expansion pack if you've purchased the original game, for free?
Especially if it's a standalone expansion pack.
>>341477229
>one could say the amiibo is more bang for your buck because it can be used on multiple games as well as double as a collectable figure
But I don't want the figure, and I want the content for free. That's already 2 problems with amiibos.
>And on top of that the content associated with it will always be available even when servers go down in the future
With Nintendo's stockpile of money, that shouldn't even be in the realm of possibility.
>I mean you're complaining that your not getting the complete game when the actual game portion is totally in tact
How is it in tact? The game isn't even done beta testing, and they already have content they're ripping out. Until a game releases, it's not done. So I have to say no DLC should even be considered here.
>>341476967
what's the thought process behind this?
Americans love gold?
>>341464650
i'm really impressed with this. i never expected aonuma to be able to breath new life into the zelda franchise was this.
i'm glad miyamoto isn't involved. we all know how great the last game he worked on was
>>341476967
except for wind waker hd and a link between worlds, the gold versions are legitimately FAR better. those two look bad because they just turned the original colorful background gold. the other ones have a different, less cluttered background that compliments the gold
>>341477037
>I hold them to the same standard. Being a "lesser evil" still makes them evil.
That's a bit retarded dude. Not everything is so black and white especially with companies.
And that still raises the question as to why you're still playing video games at all because nowadays they cut out a fuck ton of shit from the games to use as DLC.
Saying you rarely buy games doesn't explain that either because you're still buying into those practices and purposely berating the one that impacts the game the least.
Understand?
>>341477476
>What's the difference to you between an expansion pack and DLC?
An expansion pack is usually 5+ years down the line, long after the game came out. It should also be reasonably priced. None of this 60+ dollars for a 5 hour campaign garbage.
>Or do you HONESTLY believe that you deserve the expansion pack if you've purchased the original game, for free
Shovel Knight had no problem delivering that. As did Terraria. And FTL.
>>341477781
>5+ years
that's kind of a stretch, but yeah Expansion packs are more substantial than "DLC"
>>341477760
>And that still raises the question as to why you're still playing video games at all because nowadays they cut out a fuck ton of shit from the games to use as DLC.
I only play the video games where the devs are open about this kind of thing, and they just sort of release it into the internet as a cool little extra. Take Valve for instance. Before they got a boner for hats, they loved sharing beta content, and as an avid fan of modding, I loved sorting through all the stuff and thinking "hmmm, this would make a fun custom map on Counterstrike".
>Saying you rarely buy games doesn't explain that either because you're still buying into those practices
I don't buy from greedy devs. I'll buy from devs who want money, but are at least reasonable about it. That means being open about what they cut out, and letting me have that content.
>>341475643
>>341472808
>>341472924
I'm gonna just get this outta the way really quick: There's no word on what the Amiibo's do in this game.
However, if we're going to judge from current games with amiibo functionality, Wolf Link isn't going to be locked.
Kirby Planet Robobot allows you to use the Smash Kirby and other Amiibo's to instantly get new powers (even UFO), but all powers are available in game (even UFO, though that does have to be unlocked). Amiibo's act as an "easy mode", and that's it.
Starfox Zero allows you to use Fox and Falco Amiibo's to instantly unlock two new Arwing's, but you can also unlock them just by playing the game. The Amiibo's act as instant gratification, nothing's locked behind them.
More than likely, Wolf Link will be naturally attainable in-game after completing certain possibly tasks as a reward, but the Amiibo will likely circumvent those tasks.
>>341475361
Let me dream please
>>341477538
>With Nintendo's stockpile of money, that shouldn't even be in the realm of possibility.
You do realise that it's multi million company right?
And that money is used to pay for literally everything from buildings and developers to the plastic used to make the disc right?
As much as people like to say Nintendo won't die in the next 50 or so years that's obviously wrong due to the steadily increasing prices of development and so on.
If anything you should be asking why third party developers feel the need to cut out campaigns for DLC when they have considerably less to pay for
Anyone got any Webms of Link shield-surfing?
Also when did anyone say anything about Happy Mask Salesman?
>>341473797
The pretty much confirmed that they will be the same deal as twilight princess, only now the two versions are the same game and one doesn't have ridiculous motion controls.
>>341478231
>More than likely, Wolf Link will be naturally attainable in-game
Okay. If I can get them in-game, I'll have absolutely no problem with that. I may not like the instant gratification aspect, but I'll deal with it if my experience isn't being impeded.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
>>341478364
>If anything you should be asking why third party developers feel the need to cut out campaigns for DLC when they have considerably less to pay for
Greed, that's why. It's an unhealthy fixation.
the footage looked like there puzzling/exploring level is for braindead children.
>questhud calling you places
>can run/climb up anywhere
>"link you need to walk to x"
>>341468819
You can go straight to the final boss from the get go, no story at all
>>341478231
You want to know which game did not have unlockable content that was useful? Fates. Eight accessories, four units, four weapons, and four battles, all locked up behind $48 at least.
>>341478114
So we've basically boiled you're post to "because it's Nintendo" you should greedy said that in the first place.
Especially since you're trying to make Valve sound just in their actions as of late.
>>341464650
Man, ya'll are really desperate that you'll latch onto anything nintendo would have shit out aye?
If you're getting this in the Wii U you're retarded.
>>341477539
Why else would they have travelled all the way to Oregon?
>>341465643
you realize people watched and saw that grass does exist, not to mention you are not even using the same area of the game
>>341478557
The story is unfortunately still there, so if I ever want replayability via exploration, then I'm boned.
>>341478639
>So we've basically boiled you're post to "because it's Nintendo"
Except for the parts where i chastised Valve for becoming obsessed with hats? Or the part where I said Sony and MS are equally guilty and don't get special treatment?
I don't see how I singled out Nintendo there.
So it looks like the fire rod is in the game
https://youtu.be/FY0i9OL96-E?t=769
Pretty cool
>>341477539
>>341470151
the shrines after the plateau looked great, the first 4 are to get the item to leave the starting area
>tfw trying to map out Hyrule's Geography
Quite interesting when you base it solely off the timeline differences and games.
>>341473183
you forgot to crop and scale the image at the top without respecting the aspect ratio
>>341477539
The first Zelda cart was gold. So everything has to be gold according to NoA.
>MECHANICAL AUTOMATON PARTNER CONFIRMED
Source??
Honestly the trailer for this game got my hyped as fuck. And while it does look fun, watching the gameplay gave me MGS5 flash backs. Another game I greatly enjoyed, but was very let down by especially when comparing it to previous entries in the series. I don't want Zelda to fall down the same hole.
>>341478893
JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE THE SAME FUCKING PERSON
Holy fuck you are the most entitled shit that I've ever seen.
>All DLC should be free forever
>I hate even a minute's worth of story, reading sucks balls
>>341479382
Entitlement is a bad thing? Gee, I guess I'm a little late to the party here. I thought I was allowed to be entitled for a product I'm paying for. guess I was wrong.
>>341470759
>shrines are basically mini-dungeons
>comparing holes or graves from OoT to shrines
How retarded are you?
>>341468819
Nobody fucking cares.
>>341478563
I'll be honest, Fates had a LOT more problems than unlockable content.
Retarded story, horrible characters, stripped down mechanics, encouraging farming, outdated battle system, etc etc.
Conquest did have some fuck awesome map designs though, I'll give it that.
>>341472985
Well, Link has the blue garb and everything' s in ruin. I think this game takes place after the flood went away.
>>341470228
Here you go, senpai
>>341476967
>tfw the one fucking time NA consistently beats other regions
>>341477605
This guy gets stuff.
>>341479621
>I thought I was allowed to be entitled for a product I'm paying for
well you didnt pay for it and never will. so fuck off with your autism
>>341479727
Shrines are better described as dungeon rooms broken up and spread across the world.
Assuming a dungeon has 15 rooms for instance, that means Shrines combined would work out to an extra 6-7 dungeons roughly.
>>341474590
You call that confirmation?
>>341479934
Now anon, that's hardly fair. Would you like it if someone screamed at you and called you an autist if you levied perfectly valid complaints against, oh say, Uncharted? Or Horizon Dawn? Or playstation in general?
Please be more understanding anon. Some people have higher standards.
>>341475643
>I'm the paying customer, so I'm always right.
unless they say dont buy our game
>>341474407
Apologize
>>341474590
>>341469135
Well you have Wolf Link following you and helping you out if you have the amiibo.
Locked to once per day though because mobile gaming conventions ruin everything.
>>341479621
That's false entitlement anon. You didn't pay for that.
>>341480175
>deflecting to playstation
>perfectly valid complaints
it has to be autism. the people who do this kind of shit, pretending to be retarded or trying to bait. you cant be of sound mind if you do that kind of shit for fun
>>341472985
Not necessarily. We also have a mural that features Rito and Oocoo (which the people of the Adult Timeline would have no knowledge of).
We also have the Bridge of Eldin, a ruined Temple of Time (which is nowhere to be seen as of WW based on where Hyrule Castle is), Death Mountain (which later becomes Dragon Roost far above the ocean), the same goes for Kokiri Forest/Forbidden Woods, which jettisons far above the ocean, the geography of BotW doesn't fit in it's entirety or else we would have very elongated and large mountains.
If we are to believe anything, due to Calamity Ganon, that this may be an effort to merge the timelines back together and it in fact takes place after all of the timelines.
>>341475401
You aren't required to use the Amiibos, that's what they said.
>>341479807
>outdated battle system
You do realise this literally isn't a thing when it comes to RPGs in general right?
>dont even know what they do
>already bitching about amiibos
we know what wolf link does and anyone who wanted one already has one and that makes 2 games it works with if I have dlc I would rather have dlc that works with many games
>>341480420
Deflecting? Anon, that would imply I'm defending them by pushing negative attention away from them. I'm just asking you to consider: people should have the right to criticize a practice they find appalling. You have that right, and I have that right. What's the problem?
>>341479727
Shrines aren't basically mini-dungeons though.
Remember the Royal Family's Tomb in OoT? Shrines are about half that size, and that was only 3 rooms.
Remember the Ice Cave or The Bottom of the Well? THOSE are mini-dungeons. You could fit approximately 12-15 shrines in those.
>>341477539
Zelda is the treasure you are getting.
From the looks of it, Breath of the Wild seems to be a full on action RPG instead of just an adventure game. I wonder if thats Monolithsoft's influence.
>>341478183
Holy shit. Nice find
>>341480643
But the question is this: why isn't it free in the game? If I don't want the amiibo, I can never get that content.
Everyone else has been enjoying this shit for years, but when Nintendo finally plays catch up it's GG no re for the games industry?
I'm excited too but you faggots need to experience more than what nintendo feeds you.
>>341476394
Spotted the jew!
>>341480175
>perfectly valid
You're always trying to say you're entitled to content you haven't payed for anon, even if it was made separately to the base game.
That's not perfectly valid at all.
>>341480682
>What's the problem?
there is no problem. you can be as stupid as you want. youre free to do that. everyone else is also free to rightfully call you a faggot and shit on your stupid bait
>>341479621
the more you pay the more entitlement you get, seeing as your $60 doesnt mean shit.Compared to the people who will buy the dumb shit they love to make and people who actually put money into the development.
You have enough entitlement to not matter at all
>>341480618
It's not an RPG though, it's an SRPG. It's a huge difference.
Super Robot Taisen OG does it better.
Devil Survivor does it better.
XCom does it better.
FF Tactics and Tactics Ogre do it better and they're ~20 years older.
Front Mission 5 has more updated gameplay and it's a decade old.
Fates is literally baby's first SRPG.
>>341480834
Because if the amiibo line up didn't exist neither would the content . DO you really think wolf link would be in the new one if he didn't have an amiibo ? They make these things and decide to add stuff to other games for them to work with that would've never been there in the first place and had no effect on the game
>>341481000
The content was made a year before the game was even released. There's zero reason why it isn't in there with the base game, other than $$$$.
>>341481012
>>341481048
>customer rights are for "stupid faggots"
Do you guys honestly believe this? We shouldn't be allowed to even voice criticism?
>>341480735
Besides gear it doesn't really have any RPG mechanics, I wouldn't call it an RPG.
Especially since you could argue Zelda games always kind of had similar gear in it with different tunics/swords/shields and this is just taking it to its logical extreme
So I did my best to line up the maps for the child timeline, this includes SS all the way to FSA. Now this isn’t perfect by any means due to map size differences between 2D/3D games, and the fact that say MC will cut off parts of the overall environment, such as Death Mountain.
However, we can take a few things based on this map. Such as, we know that the Temple of Time in OoT is the same Temple of Time in TP, and the Sacred Grounds in SS. We know that. Note that this map is based solely on the Temple of Time and where it fits.
Now a few things of interesting note.
>Faron Woods will eventually become Death Mountain in OoT
>Death Mountain OoT eventually becomes Lake Hylia in FSA
>Lake Hylia in TP likely becomes the Northern Frozen Hyrule in FSA
>Frozen Hyrule in FSA expands from parts of the desert in SS to parts of the Castle Town in OoT
>TP map in generally is far more north than all the other maps
>The Tower of Flames in FSA was likely once the Earth Temple in SS, or close to it
>The Kokiri Forest is either North or is the Minish Woods
>If it is North, that means the Kokiri Forest was Lake Hylia in MC (this fits with the fact that it’s also connected to Zora’s Domain and the waters may have receded over time)
>Lon Lon Ranch was likely a northern most part of Hyrule Town from MC
>The Forest Temple of TP is very close to the Great Tree of SS
>Mt. Crenel eventually becomes the canal that leads from Gerudo Valley to Lake Hylia in OoT (an Earthquake may have happened)
>The Old Temple of Time in SS is likely either repurposed into the Arbiter’s Ground in TP (again map size, sorry), or it connects to the Cave of Ordeals (this fits with the underground method used to get there in SS)
>The Eastern Temple of FSA might have once been Kakariko Village/Shadow Temple
>Somewhere along the way Gerudo Desert/Valley massively shrinks or is lost to Earthquakes/Time (Ganondorf coveted the wind I suppose, but that’s another timeline)
>>341480175
>higher standards
I think you're confusing retardation for higher standards.
It's ok, it happens all the time here.
>>341473172
That’s actually rendered on the NX
>>341481337
So quite a few things can be determined just off the rough geography of where things should be and match up, again, it’s incredibly hard to match up things due to size differences, but in general most things do tend to be close enough or rather spot on, such as Death Mountain in MC and OoT. So it’s an interesting thing to note that Death Mountain is also North in Breath of the Wild, meaning it would likely fit somewhere around the Tower of Flames/Earth Temple or potentially the empty space between that and Snowpeak.
So I'm not sure if anyone is even interested in this or me doing the Failure/Adult timelines as well with their respective Hyrules, but I was curious and how things roughly matched up.
>>341478364
They have ¥500 BILLION. I think they're fine.
>>341481316
>Do you guys honestly believe this? We shouldn't be allowed to even voice criticism?
i JUST said you could. we all can invoke that same freedom and criticize you. and we deem you a faggot
>>341481245
>Because if the amiibo line up didn't exist neither would the content
So if they didn't charge money for it, it would never exist, and we'd never get new content?
Hmm, because I recall one of my favorite games blowing that little theory out of the water.
>>341480834
It IS free in the game.
If you don't want the Amiibo, you have to unlock the content naturally, like in Kirby: PR or SF Zero. If you HAVE the Amiibo and want to get instant gratification, then you can use it, but otherwise you're just supposed to play the game and unlock it naturally.
>>341481238
Simple =/= bad. The FE system is simple but it's effective, it didn't even need all the new mechanics Awakening/Fates added to it like pair up.
>>341464650
>uses the word degenerate
>yea boi!!!!
>>341480867
That's how it always is, I mean look at current VR. It's just glorified motion controls and people are loving it and yet they berate the Wii remote.
Then there's Mario being a rehash when they since the DS they've only been making one NSMB per system while there are games that have had three or four over the course of one or two years with no changes in gameplay.
Basically people good Nintendo up to ridiculous standard that they don't good anyone else up tol
>>341481517
>we all can invoke that same freedom and criticize you. and we deem you a faggot
Fair enough, but I still have the right to criticize the game even if you think I'm "retarded" or "a faggot".
If you cherish the right to criticize a game you don't like, then just remember that. Even if you hate me, we all still have that right. I'm sorry if "customer rights" has been demonized as a bad thing in this industry.
>>341464650
cover sucks
empty as shit after being drunk
>>341481238
>It's not an RPG though, it's an SRPG. It's a huge difference.
>RPGs in general
Reading isn't your strong point is it.
LET THE LEGEND COME BACK TO LIFE
>>341481979
no one cares. i sincerely dont care. you are a faggot and your bitching is dumb
>>341482079
>Thinking RPG = SRPG
Fire Emblem is literally the only game you've played, isn't it.
>>341481979
Problem is you haven't produced a single valid criticism other than "they're finally doing what the rest are, shun them!"
Stop arguing sperglords and talk about Zelda, fucking christ.
>>341482260
You do know what "in general" means right?
I mean this is primary school shit dude you should know this.
>>341481540
Anon, Terraria is basically 2D DLC for Minecraft, which itself was computerized DLC for Lego's.
>>341464650
Fags like you ruin this for people who actually like the game.
>>341482460
>Bark
>Bokoblins will use literally anything possible to kill you, including a rock on the ground
>Bokoblins will actively snipe you while you're fighting other Bokoblins
>an unarmed Bokoblin can walk over and hurl a nearby explosive barrel at you while you're fighting another Bokoblin
>Bokoblin scouts can alert other Bokoblins to your presence if they spot you
This is much, much better than anything in Skyward Sword. It's not even funny.
>>341482339
>Problem is you haven't produced a single valid criticism other than "they're finally doing what the rest are, shun them!"
I'm shunning the rest though. Nobody is getting special treatment. The inverse is what seems to be happening, the "it's okay when ninty does it" problem. I'm simply making it clear that I can't accept it no matter what company is behind it.
>>341482253
>faggot
please keep the slurs to /pol/. I would appreciate that.
>>341482589
You make that sound like a bad thing. A company with 1/1000th of Nintendo's stocked up money reserves can release DLC for free, so the big N should be able to at least be a little more lenient, especially when Zelda is a guaranteed system seller.
>>341482460
It's E3 season man.
>>341482546
SRPG's and RPG's aren't close.
That's like trying to say Skyrim's a platformer.
>>341464991
fpbp
>>341482658
I can't wait to have an unkillable Wolf Link with 20 hearts ripping and tearing my enemies.
>>341482674
Just wait I bet there will be moments of the Techno Crab Beamos things and the Bokoblins attacking you all at once, so it's gonna turn into backflips, dashes, and time slow the game. Gonna be real fun.
>>341468762
Wilhelm Tell is not Robin Hood
>>341480439
Bridge of eldin is actually in WW on the way to ganons castle
>>341482460
I played like 35 minutes of the demo, though it was mostly in the overworld. I could clear up a few things if anyone wants to know, though most of it is probably stuff people here already caught onto.
>>341483045
I wouldn't really call that the Bridge of Eldin, it's not big enough and doesn't match up with the geography at all. TP's map is far more north than the rest of them.
>>341482814
Are you being retarded on purpose or what?
You should understand that all of these RPGs have common elements that bind them together, yes there are subgenres but that doesn't mean they don't have similarities. Which is why you can speak about them in general, the similarities outweigh the differences
OPEN
WORLD
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>341475401
>$100+ in paid DLC outside the already $30-50 season pass is fine
When people stop buying this in droves, then we'll stop seeing it. I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>341476931
You're retarded. Instead of spending 100% development time on the Wii U they spent 50/50% or so on both. I've never felt so cucked before in my life buying the Wii U.
At least I don't have to pay for the game as Wii U will be properly hacked by then.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A WEBM OF LINK USING THE CLAYMORE?
I'm so damn excited for this game.
I'm so excited for it to come out, and for me to not play it, and for me to go on /v/ and see all the crying angry nintendo fans who have gotten cucked by the bull again.
You people will get excited about anything. They haven't shown you a thing that's special or unique. All of it is common in AAA titles today. Nintendo has been behind for more than a decade, and just now they are going into "open world," and you people are so excited, as though it's groundbreaking.
The potential energy from the sheer outflow of disappointment that will exist following the release of this game is gargantuan. If you put that potential in a circuit, you could power the world for centuries. If you rose an object from the earth the size of your average horse to a point at which the difference in potential gravitational energy was bigger than the potential energy of this impending disappointment, you would have moved the object so far from earth that it would instead fall towards another star, at least 2 or 3 light years away to be far enough.
I hate all of you. I can not wait until this board is ruined by post upon post upon post of nintenshitters leaving their shitty company forever for consoles and systems that are worth their time, like sony and PC.
>>341481337
>>341481484
That's pretty interesting anon, we know the Eldin Bridge is also in Breath too, so this is gonna be really curious.
>>341483602
Of course.
>>341483602
Don't have a webm but go to GameXplain's 40 minute video of the game and go to about 38:00
>>341482814
Not that anon but SRPGs and RPGs are very close, especially when it comes to battle systems. SRPGs are literally just RPG battle systems with a tactical element overlaid to them reminiscent of board games; that's where SRPG gets the name.
Of course there are weird exceptions to the rule like Valkyria Chronicles that start to move away from RPGs and move towards action games but those are the exceptions, not the norm.
>>341482589
This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen on the internet.
There is greater than a 100% chance that this is a bait post. I am more than perfectly certain.
The chance that you just don't know what you're talking about and got unlucky is negative.
Y'know, OP, if you wanted another Nintendo hate thread, you could have just said it outright.
Wojack has destroyed /v/.
>>341482658
How does wolk link and not wolf link be in the same place at the same time?
>>341479621
They make the product known before you buy it. You can't buy the product and get mad when it's something you didn't want. The details are there. They have dlc and they have story so don't buy it.
>>341484340
Gamers destroyed /v/, just as they did every other game discussion. It's either complete praise or complete shitposting, they've ruined the very hobby they love with constant faggotry as they've gotten older.
Most people that shitpost would be happy and excited to be playing a Zelda game like this or a RE game like 7 or a variety of other games people would like to bitch about, as opposed to them sitting there going "It's shit famalam dingdong, fun is a buzzword lololol." It's just flat out stupidity.
>>341484486
The Link from TP is probably not the same Link from BotW so it's possible, even if they're both incarnations of Link
>>341484486
The same way the Hero of Time and Hero of Twilight where in the same place at the same time in Twilight Princess.
