What are the logical, lore reasons for no female option Link?
Not asking for bait, I'm pretty lore illiterate so I'm looking for an education thats not lifted from neogaf.
>still using automatic jumps
>>341428740
Because you're playing as an established character, not creating one.
Because people are confused over how Link's reincarnations work. It's not a reincarnation of 'a hero', it's a reincarnation of LITERALLY LINK.
The first Link was male, so all Links that follow will be male, because it is literally the same person being reincarnated over and over again.
Almost all Nintendo games are about jumping a lot.
Zelda still forces automatic jumps in 3d.
Because fuck you, japan doesnt care about your agenda.
You can still make porn of it, doesnt affect your fapping.
There are no true lore reasons. It's just double the amount of work they'd spend on creating Link, since people would cry if it was just Link with tits and a girlier voice.
The real question is why do people need a female Link? Girls have been playing and loving LoZ since the first game, so it's not for the purpose of inviting girls to play and enjoy LoZ. It's SJW pandering plain and simple.
>>341429123
Did Skyward Sword Link not have the spirit of the Hero in him?
Where does Windwaker's Link fit in?
>>341428920
>>341429242
Its not automatic jumps, there's a jump button. Chiko is just not very good at the game.
>>341428740
What >>341429123 said.
Also simply because Nintendo wants Link to be male.
It's as silly as aksing for male Lara Croft or male Faith or male Samus or....Inb4 lol Uncharted. Does not count. Nathan Drake is a separate character in his own universe. I meant literally male Lara Croft.
>>341429242
There's a jump button in BotW, retard.
>>341428920
The guy pressed a button to do that anon.
>>341429398
Skyward Sword Link is the original one. He's the one who started the whole thing off, because Demise cursed them all at the end.
Wind Waker Link is, in fact, a reincarnation of the hero, everybody just acts like he's not. Every version of Link there is, is Link. That's why they all look more or less the same, and they're all male.
It's like how Ganondorf, being the reincarnated spirit of Demise, had to be of the Gerudo clan so he could have the red hair and dark skin. Zelda is always the same, too.
It's an endlessly repeating cycle, tied to the Triforce, and Link will always be Link, as Zelda and Ganon will always be who they are.
It is what it is, and nothing more.
Half of the reason why Ocarina of Time is so great is the sense of adventure from roaming around a brand new world. Watching previews of the game will only spoil it.
>>341429676
Got it, thanks.
Although Zelda's reincarnated appearance changes from game to game. Or does she work differently than Link's reincarnations?
>>341428740
Why is there no female version of you?
>>341430204
She never really changes THAT much. It's like how different versions of Link have slightly different hair colours and styles.
Can someone link me the video with Aonuma himself playing the game? I missed the live thing.
>>341430204
>>341430526
I'm pretty sure its because Zelda does work differently than Link. Link is a pure reincarnation of form for the most part. Zelda follows a royal bloodline, and whichever Zelda happens to be around when shit gets real is the one that gets momentarily imbued with Hylia's spirit or whatever.
I think, I'm also not great with the lore and havent played all the Zelda games to really understand.
>>341428740
There's no lore reasons
The logicial reason is because Link is a guy and always has been, it's as simple as that
>education
>neogaf
You're not "lore illiterate", you're just plain stupid
>>341428920
You have been watching the wrong game. This one has a few diffrent types of jumps
>>341429487
where is BotW?
>>341428740
Gender matters, and characters need to develop the game's (and series') theme, which is centrally about the balance of the Triforce. If link was zelda, zelda would have to be link.
>>341429123
The game's "reincarnations" exist because the game repeatedly develops the same theme using the same characters in the same way. The personalities shift but the central theme of balance of courage, wisdom, and power is common to every story in the Zelda series. If you change Link you have to change Zelda to preserve the story.
The other reason is that Zelda represents Wisdom of the triforce and spends the whole game being wise and mystical. These are just feminine traits and suit a female character. You can make Link a girl, but within the story this means making Link fill the thematic role of Zelda.
>>341428740
Link is Miyamoto self inserting as a kid.
Miyamoto is male therefore, Link is male.
>>341432185
>feminine traits and suit a female character
SMASH THE PATRIARCHY
SMASH GENDER ROLES
I don't get it why people suddenly wants a Legend of Link
>>341428740
Logically the biggest reason would 2 fold. First lt is that they afraid of driving off some of the female audience that want to get banged by male link. And second would be that if there was a feale option tjat tje ammoint of porn drawn would be ridicules and ha rd to ignore and deal with to avoid the kiddos from laying their eyes upon such things
At this point Link is so androgynous that you could make a gender option that changes nothing and it would work.
>>341428740
Roles in a recurring legend through time being super specifically based on the characters
mostly
>>341433354
Because Link takes his clothes off now.
It's hysterically funny to me. Literally the day before E3 if you'd suggested that Link could be female in this game in a positive light, /v/ would eat you alive for being an SJW. As soon as they saw him running around shirtless, though, the entire board's tune changed and now everyone's all wondering why you can't choose one or the other.
>>341428740
Because link is a male character, originally representing a little boy going off on adventures in the woods. Boys are also pretty much androgynous so get the fuck over it.
>>341428740
So treehouse are Polygon now?
>>341430747
>>341430204
Due to some royal law all princesses are named Zelda. Every Zelda is a different person, Link is a reincarnation of the same person, and Ganondorf usually gets imprisoned rather than killed so he can escape for the next round (he has died a few times and either he is resurrected or a new evil that is still demise comesafter Link.)
I was hoping for a female link only for the twist to be your playing Zelda to stop a evil Link who has dethroned a peaceful Ganon
>>341429123
Zelda is conservative game. Dark-skinned guys are bad ones, Blonde and blue-eyed are good ones. So when it comes to gender it's conservative too. Women can't be a warriors, it's a male role.
>>341433791
>Keeping Ganondorf alive and imprisoned stops him from reincarnating.
Gotta hand it to the sages, that's a smart way to cheat the system.
>>341428740
Nintendo considers Link an important and iconic character, so much so that you can no longer rename him in the new game.
Link is male.
The creators don't see a reason and do not want to change this.
There is literally no other reason, nor does there need to be despite the insistence of faggot autists and tumblrinas. I'm glad you losers got BTFO by Aonuma.
>>341428740
There is no reason for Link to be female.
>>341434854
There's no reason he has to stay a male is what people are getting at.
Citing lore makes no sense because Nintendo is the one that makes the lore.
>>341435023
There is no reason to make him female either. It's a character that has been established as male why is this so hard to understand?
>>341428740
Because ironically, video game developers are such feminists that they don't like they sight of women suffering or dying, so they make them immortal secondary characters so that no harm ever comes to them.
That's why men avoid female protagonists, they like women so much they don't wish them that. In games in which dying is frequent even more.
But apparently it has become sexist to protect women, so let's torture, rape and kill those whores if they like it so much.
>>341435023
To bad the Nintendo understands their own stuff better then.
>>341433851
Why would Link be evil? Why would Ganon be peaceful? I like the idea of a twist where you think you're Link, but you're actually Zelda. But I think Link should just be some asshole three steps ahead of you, inadvertently slowing you down, maybe you even try to fight him, but he also winds up giving you a hand when you need it; then you reach the end of your quest and team up to fight Ganon.
>>341435023
By the same logic there's no reason to keep Zelda female, so let's make Zelda a guy and turn the game into one giant sausage party gay love story.
>>341433791
It would be neat to play as a reincarnation of link that previously lost to Ganon.
Because the devs don't want a female link.
If they don't want to put a female link in their game. They don't have to.
End of story.
Men are more muscular, better for violent quests
>>341429676
It must suck for the Gerudo tribe to give birth to one male each hundred years who is also supposed to become their leader only for him to become an evil asshole.
>>341435273
Why couldn't he be? Give him a back story of the power of the trifroce corrupting him.
>>341433851
Making the hero evil is one of the few epitomes of hack writing. Dancing waltz with morality is not.
>>341428740
There isn't.
>>341428740
Because 1. He has always been male and 2. even if they added the option, faggots, beta cuck nu-males, SJWs, and feminazis would demand that female link become the new primary link.
>>341435023
>There's no reason he has to stay a male is what people are getting at.
Yes there is.
Branding.
Link is one of the most iconic characters in video game history, and watering HIM down and drastically changing HIM to pander to a small minority of fans is really dumb and cheapens the brand. From a marketing perspective, giving Link an gender option is a bad idea in the long run.
He has always been male, and it's not broke so they arn't going to fix it.
>>341435594
Have you not played a Zelda game in your entire life?
>>341428740
>Need logical lore reasons for explaining things that AREN'T in a game
You can't make up this level of entitlement.
>>341435419
Both A Link to the Past and A Link between Worlds take place in a timeline where the Hero of Time lost to Ganondorf
there's gonna be a time travel thing in this game where you can turn back time in a certain area to play the area as it was when it wasn't yet in ruins
doing that will make you change into female link
GUARANTEED
>>341428998
The hero of the triforce of courage isn't an established character though, the only established thing it's the tunic and the power to wield the master sword.
>>341428740
instead of there being a female link how about a different character with different motives, im not saying get rid of link but dont just glue tits on link and say "look its diverse" thats stupid, give me an actual character.
Linkle was nicely done and all but its really just a rule 63 of Link.
Zelda/Shiek would be fun to play, hell we could even have a Gerudo woman.
>>341433851
this is a retarded suggestion.
>>341435680
Played em all man
>>341435603
But he wouldn't be the hero of the story
>>341428740
>no lore reason for Link not being cool
what the fuck
>>341435796
Except that Link literary is an established character.
>>341435943
>Played em all man
Then you'd know that Ganon holds the triforce of power. It's why he is the bad guy.
>>341436072
The Triforce isn't what makes him a bad guy the fact that he is Demise's anger incarnate is what makes him a bad guy
>>341429398
>Chiko is just not very good at the game
Shes really fucking good with the bow though. I wouldn't say she's bad at the game entirely.
>>341436205
Different anon. Who is demise? I've played all 2d and 3d Zelda's up to tp
>>341436072
>Ganon holds the triforce of power. It's why he is the bad guy
Have you played any of the games? Making some retarded comments about the plot in them.
>>341435023
>There's no reason he has to stay a male is what people are getting at.
There's no such thing as creative freedom anymore. Everything must be committee approved, no artistic vision. Fucking moron
>>341435947
>pssh... nothin personnel... skullkid
>>341436308
Demise is the big bad guy in Skyward Sword. When you kill him he curses Link and Zelda to fight him until the end of times. That's why all 3 continuously reincarnate.
>>341436308
The Demon that cursed the Soul of the Hero(Link) and the Blood of the Goddess(Zelda) that they would never rest and his rage would follow them for all time.
>>341436205
What trail of thought do you want to go with.
>Absolute Power corrupts
Ganon is Bad guy.
>Demis makes Ganon evil
Ganon is Bad guy.
If you haven't noticed Link is dumb lovable oaf, but he has the courage of a lion heading into danger and stands his ground. He is by all means not a wise guy or powerful at all.
>>341435796
>the hero of the triforce of courage (LINK) is not an established character
????????
japs don't like change
nintendo fans think change is a rapist refugee coming to steal their land
So, am I the only one who actually really hates that they created a timeline for Zelda and now everything has to fit into some big master plan? The more you do this the more convoluted it will get until the creators finally feel the need to "reboot" it like what keeps happening with super hero comics and movie franchises.
Before they made an official timeline, fans could speculate all they wanted to, but in the end each game was just self contained telling similar stories with its own particular variation and they didn't need to be directly connected. In my own head canon I still think of them this way.
Anyway, regardless, all of the lore reasons people are giving in this thread why there couldn't be a girl Link can very easily be waved away by modifying the lore if Nintendo ever decides they want to do it.
>>341436567
Ganon was already a bad guy before he got the Triforce he was given a choice on which piece he got to keep and he went with power because he believed that's all you need to rule.
>>341435796
Uh what? He's been male with blond hair and blue eyes in almost every game. When people think Link they think of that image.
>>341429676
>Wind Waker Link is, in fact, a reincarnation of the hero, everybody just acts like he's not.
Except he's not
The triforce of courage was broken and so was Link's fate of reincarnating over and over again
It wasnt until some toddler in an island in the asshole of the flooded world that got her sister kidnapped that had to get shit started
>Your sister got kidnapped by the king of all evil, and you want to take her back?
>So you want to take down ganondorf, well, good fucking luck, only the hero of the legends can do that
And then the absolute madman goes an puts on a green pajama, gathers the pieces of the triforce of courage and fixes the master sword, becoming the hero of the legend and infusing the fate of fighting ganondorf over and over again over generations
>>341435796
It's Link. Eternal recurrence, the same guy being born every generation.
>muh female characters
whoa, am I on /v/?
>>341436230
>Shes really fucking good with the bow though.
That's not her, that's gyro controls.
HERO of time. Not Heroine.
>>341436770
Are you the only person with downs syndrome? No, you're not.
>>341436567
Link is the most balanced of the three, that's why he can make a wish with the Triforce.
>no bait
>posts bait thread
>What are the logical, lore reasons for no female option Link?
Link is not the player avatar.
Link is a character. He has a story and interact with other characters in scripted manner.
It's like asking for female mario. You don't, that would be stupid. What would be sensible is asking for a playable peach instead.
If playing yourself is THAT important for you go try one of the many, many, open world adventure or rpg games with character creation.
>>341437095
Anyone that assembles the Triforce can make a wish
>>341429676
I'm pretty certain WW Link had to earn his stripes.
>>341428740
What's the logical reason for a female link? Besides someones mental handicap?
>>341437085
Where on earth do you get the idea of down syndrome with that post? That makes even less sense than the way /v/ typically uses autism.
>>341435280
Yes please, quick
"What is link gonna do?"
>>341436770
Dude. You and the creators of the series know that the timeline isn't real.
It's a rudimentary marketing ploy for some canon-obsessed fans.
Don't worry about it. The creators don't worry about it when they make a new game, they just have the marketing team come up with a bullshit idea when the game is done anyway.
It really isn't a thing.
>>341437617
They are right with that, Link would just take over the game anyhow. Being wise=/= having courage.
>>341436770
I agree
I don't think that there has to be an official timeline
It only makes the reincarnation of a hero a cliche instead of having a normal character prove himself to be a hero fit for the role of the main character
Like Wind Waker and Minish Cap
>>341428740
It's the retelling of a myth of a guy rescuing a goddess or something like that. Every Zelda is a reincarnation of her and Link is the reincarnation of the hero.
>>341437769
>>341437806
It's "real" if it's used as a reason why they can't do something like make a female Link if they want to.
>>341428740
What are the logical, lore reasons for no black Link?
>>341437892
you can't steal the triforce
>>341437892
that's ganondorf
>>341437892
lore dictates that black is reserved for ganon and sand people
>>341436770
>tons of speculation on the plot
>incredibly interesting theories on the relationship between OoT and Majora
>death, rebirth, dream symbolism, the afterlife, judgment, the supernatural
>all these themes are addressed in an intelligent, subtle, and graceful way
>"Does anyone else hate storytelling? I like to imagine Link is really a transexual black woman. If there's an established Link, they should just retcon the shit out of it because the lack of a female Link makes my vagina hurt. Nintendo should only care about the customers who don't fucking care"
May this cyberbullying find you well:
F U C K I N G
K I L L
Y O U R S E L F
>>341428740
Because Link isn't a fucking girl.
Because taking Link's shirt off is apparently a big deal. And everyone knows you can't take a female video game character's shirt off. That would be objectification.
Now let's go back to watching three grown women play a children's game and talk about nothing but how shirtless they made the male hero.
>>341437095
What does the Triforce even do exactly? I mean Link has the triforce of courage and it seems like it doesn't do jack shit. How do you even "assemble" it?
>>341439104
Triforce of courage gave link autism so he can't recognize danger, feel pain, and removed his ability to talk.
If we're allowed to play as female Link then why can't we play as female Mario?
>>341439350
This.
How the fuck in the year of 2016 is this not an option yet? What are those shitlords at nintendo doing?
>>341428740
How about this as a reason.
Because Nintendo fucking said so.
>>341438090
It does find me well so I'll stick to living for now. Thanks.
All of the story elements you're talking about there are things that people speculated on in the series long before the official timeline was introduced and would continue to do so if it had never existed. Fans don't need restrictive pointless timelines to engage in this kind of thinking.
Next.
>>341439350
Also female Metroid
>>341439350
Zelda may not be an RPG but it has more of a role-playing feel to it. It's a more directly relatable adventure, that actually tells stories about human things and is meant to evoke feelings of wonder and adventure and discovery. So people want a little more of a role playing aspect around the character avatar. Simple.
It's not a huge deal but it would be fun and it wouldn't take anything away from the game.
>>341439252
>Gannondorf gets to has enchanted strength and the ability to transform into a powerful beast
>Zelda gets to utilise magic and time fuckery powers
>Link gets shit
Kek
>>341440113
It's a story of link. Male link
Not an RPG, deal with it nigger
>>341440113
Yeah anon I agree. Character creator in Zelda when?
>>341428740
Because Link is male. That's how the character was created, there's really nothing to it.
A better question is "What are the logical, lore reasons for Link to suddenly change gender?"
>>341440392
It's 2016.
>>341434390
>Dark-skinned guys are bad ones
Because the cycle of the returning tri force holders began with Zelda wanting to be with Link but could not. It started with a straight female's romantic interest in a straight male. The trip force of wisdom then will always be Zelda, and the tri force of courage will always be Link.
Additionally, you can't make the protagonist Zelda, because the courage aspect is supposed to represent the player going against all odds to save the kingdom from sure destruction.
I don't think there's anything keeping Ganon male though, so maybe SJWs should go bitch about that instead.
If people asked for a male Lara Croft or male Samus they'd be put on a cross and fucking crucified, yet land whales are allowed to spend hours bitching about a character being male for story reasons
>>341440445
I know you're memeing, but can someone explain to me what makes CURRENT YEAR any more progressive than any other year in the eyes of the John Olivers and Justin Trudeaus of the world?
>>341435513
Its honestly amazing they don't jsut execute any boy as soon as he is born to stop the clusterfuck in its tracks, but I guess Twin Rova made sure to keep him alive when the other gerudos would have killed him
>>341440304
he gets to keep trying over and over
also
he gets bottles to keep fairies in. imagine if ganondorf did that
>>341440592
>one exception exists
>that means the sheikah and ganondorf aren't bad
:OOO
>>341441025
Its just 2016 bro gotta be progressive
>>341441006
Because it's CURRENT YEAR the PREVIOUS YEAR is so last year it's old and outdated
>>341428740
What are the logical, lore reasons for no female option Mario?
Not asking for bait, I'm pretty lore illiterate so I'm looking for an education thats not lifted from neogaf.
>>341441178
>>341434390
>Zelda's tranny alter ego lietally disproves this.
>>341441324
But nothing changes between the years. I myself become one year older every so often but I don't look to myself and say "I guess THIS is the year I start being polite to women."
>>341428740
Because they want a silent protagonist and a woman keeping her mouth shut would be unrealistic.
>>341439860
The point being, a continuation between titles existed before Nintendo spoonfed the lore by announcing an official timeline.
Also: you find the whole basis of there being a consistent, continuing world restrictive? It may very well be and there are valid, interesting creative reasons to make a break with the timeline and create something entirely different but pandering to a cancerous, frankly boring, whim is not one.
I just want a female link so I can stop feeling like a faggot when I fap to a Redead molesting him. Has nothing to do with Tumblr.
>>341428740
its a constant reincarnation in the purest way meaning there gender never changes even if ganon was pig he was still male
>>341441178
Nigger, did you forget that Gandorf sent monsters or outright razed Gerudo Valley whenever he got power in his hands? He and both his mothers are not on good terms with the Gerudo
>>341441178
since when are the sheikah bad?
I never played Skyward Sword, were they antagonists there?
>>341440113
Have you ability to feel empathy towards a character if it is not your creation?
Also, RPG =/= Character Creation.
>>341441853
>its a constant reincarnation in the purest way
>ganon can be a pig monster then reincarnate as a man
>but their gender can't change!
Yeah, that makes sense.
>>341442337
Nope, Impa was the last surviving Sheikah there too tasked with protecting the goddess after the war
>>341440113
I guess the old FF games or every single game that has ever existed in the past are not RPG thanks to your definition
>>341442526
Sorry tranny scum, you will never be able to ruin zelda with that shit
Pretty much everything about Link has changed throughout every game except his gender but apparently his gender is a really big deal to people. Nintendo said something about how the "balance of the triforce" must be maintained, apparently this means 2 men 1 woman or something.
>>341442526
Tell me you screaming ape, does pic related looks like a pig to you? Why do you insist on ignoring the fact that Ganondorf only becomes a pig like monster AFTER he picks the triforce?
>>341442845
So, you're just going to keep changing your argument whenever you're proven wrong aren't you? Why don't you go back to your bioware games, they have your tranny fantasies there that will cater to your every whim, nintendo is the last goddamn place you should scream for that
>>341435421
I want to fuck that goat
>>341443138
Dunno what you're talking about since this is my first post in the thread. I don't even play Zelder games. But apparently the notion of Link's gender changing triggers both sides of the spectrum pretty hard.
>>341442845
The only physical changes have been his age or changes in artistic style.
Jesus may get painted in different times by different artists but it's still the same Jesus.
>>341443252
I don't think I've ever seen so many Zelda fans triggered in one thread.
>>341428740
What are the logical, lore reasons for no female option Mario?
Not asking for bait, I'm pretty lore illiterate so I'm looking for an education thats not lifted from neogaf.
>>341443252
>>341443359
Why do you lie? There is a goddamn counter that shows when a new person posts in a thread, why do you fucking lie?
>>341443359
>Tumblrite says something stupid
> you're wrong
> XDDD TRIGGERED
>>341433851
I want a game where "Ganon" is a young black male who has to stop the evil, burly Hyrule king Link. Something like the Maleficent movie I guess. The moral would be that everyone chooses their own destiny, and your ancestry doesn't define you.
>>341443594
My friend, the posts you are replying to were made by two different people. I made the second one and it definitely wasn't my first post in the thread. I'm not the guy who said it was his.
Also, you are triggered, and it's funny.
>>341435023
there is also no reason that Zelda isn't a demi gender fluid jewish lesbian nigger attack helicopter and when we're at it, let's make ganon a giraffe with six dicks
>>341443391
Because the janitor they had when they originally created Mario was a guy also have you ever seen a woman plumber?
>>341443920
>have you ever seen a woman plumber?
Yes.It's on Xmovies I think.
>>341429676
Wasn't there a link before the SS one?
>>341439104
The courage to smash pots andSmash fish pussy
>>341429123
Explain Aang -> Korra then
>>341428740
>female_gamers.webm
>>341444750
Do you realize that avatar and zelda are two different franchises/universes or no?
>>341428740
because fuck you that's why
>>341444879
We're talking about reincarnation.
Spirits don't have a gender.
>>341444180
Nah, there was a hero to just kept Demise at bay long enough for them to run away but he was killed
>>341445225
Maybe they do in Zelda, how would you know
>>341445225
>We're talking about reincarnation.
>
>Spirits don't have a gender
Did you make the Zelda games lore?
>>341445225
>Spirits don't have a gender
have you ever met a ghost/spirit anon? share your story
The reason is that nip devs are based and don't pander to that shit.
>>341445298
Impossible. Gender is a social construct
There's no reason that a few incarnations of the hero of time can't be a girl.
In before you point out several artwork from the games that depicts the hero of time as a guy, because that's the only thing that destroys my statement.Except if there is a painting/stained glass window prophecy that depicts the hero as a girl. In a completely separate game. They really could do that.
>>341445409
Did you?
>>341445461
I would, but that's a topic for /x/
>>341445684
You're so full of shit.
>>341445684
>Did you?
No but I'm not the autistic tranny questioning the gender of a reicarnation, you are
>>341428740
Nice bulge there. :^)
>>341445641
In the future you may even lop off your dick to pretend you're actually a girl but we are talking about the present
>>341442994
But...But...THAT DOESNT FIT MY ARGUMENT AT ALL!!
>>341445819
Ok
>>341445838
Tranny? And do you know anything about real-world reincarnation beliefs? Most of them say you're not locked into a gender.
Hell, most of the time you're not locked into a specific species
>>341446313
>And do you know anything about real-world reincarnation beliefs?
It's a fucking videogame you dipshit
>>341446313
>Tranny? And do you know anything about real-world reincarnation beliefs? Most of them say you're not locked into a gender.
>
>Hell, most of the time you're not locked into a specific species
Say, is Zelda a realistic documentary pertaining real world reincarnation?
>>341444750
>westernized approximation of anime made by Nickelodeon
>Nickelodeon, the television network that brought you hits like Bella and the Bulldogs and iCarly, where being an insufferable bitch terrorizing earth is played for laughs (produced by pedophile Dan Schneider)
>using Nickelodeon shows as our model for narrative
>Nickelodeon having a solid or interesting concept of ideas like reincarnation or eternal recurrence
Pleb even for /v/'s tastes. Let's use classic mythology and established storytelling as models for comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN24D7aoPhI
>>341446465
>>341446515
I was correcting this retard who's was saying opinion of reincarnation as fact
>>341429123
No need to get so butthurt faggots
>>341446814
>I was correcting this retard who's was saying opinion of reincarnation as fact
And so are you, who are you to tell the creators of the game they are wrong for saying in their game the reincarnation is just the same people being born?
>>341446758
Stop shilling your poorly made video.
>>341446814
>No need to get so butthurt faggots
> someone points out why you are wrong
> lol u mad
That's pathetic even by v standards
>>341446943
When did the creators say Link's reincarnation is strictly male? Their justification for no female link in thus game is entirely different.
>>341447021
Wrong how?
>>341447293
They said it was for the balance of the triforce, who are you to say they are wrong?
>>341447528
I'm not? Learn to read.
Here's a fun way they could've fucked with everyone.
>Player is named Zelda, but looks and plays exactly like Link
>Princess is named Link, but looks and acts exactly like Zelda
>All because the parents of those incarnations mistook the named of the past heroes
If they did this, I think I'd be laughing for a long time.
>>341435796
like are you even serious right now? ARE YOU SERIOUS. LIKE, OH MY GOD I CANT EVEN WITH YOU.
>>341447656
Nigger, you're the one who keeps asking about wanting a female Link and how they are wrong for not doing it
>>341447293
Ever reincarnation of link and ganon was male, just like wvery reincarnation of Zelda was female. His theory of how reincarnation works in the loz universe was supported by evidencw, yours was supported by your sjw bias
>>341428740
Link was male so it would be fucking stupid for him to become a female
What is there to understand
>>341447804
I corrected an anon about how reincarnation isn't always male -> male; female -> female
Nintendo can do what they want. Their "triforce" explanation is fine by me.
>>341447913
Are you sure you're talking to the right anon?
>>341428740
The same explanation there would be for Kratos, Master Chief, Mario, Sonic, Crash, Joel, Adam Jensen, or any fictional media that has a male character in it. The writers decided they were male, so they are written as males.
Same could be said for female characters. Samus is a female for no lore purposes, just that the writers decided she was female.
The fact that people make a big deal out of this is that gaming in general has become overall so easy, accessible, and competently made that they have to make up shit to complain about.
No one complained that the MC of watch_dogs or colonial marines wasn't some black disabled trans fat because there were plenty of other things to complain about.
>>341428740
Does anyone anywhere give a shit? Is anyone not going to play the game because the main character isn't a woman? It's not like there are legions of fans asking for Samus to become a man (outside of the retards who insist she is transexual) and are outraged that Nintendo has been misandristic by not making her male and refuse to play any Metroid games because the main characters gender hasn't alternated for no reason.
Christ this is one of the the shittiest discussions about video games I've ever seen break out, Link being a man or a woman makes no difference to the game at all but people just can't shut the fuck up about it.
>>341428740
I don't think there are any. The prerequisites to be a Link I am aware of are that you have to be a Hylian and you have to be chosen by the goddesses. Nothing about gender.
It's different than Zelda cause it's not really a reincarnation, all the Links have different spirits. I think Zelda has to be female cause she's the spirit of Hylia, but then I could see the SJW saying she could be reincarnated into a male body and be a trans woman, and they might be right cause I can't think of any reason that breaks lore.
>>341448490
Anyone that would base their decision to play a game only if the mc is female don't buy video games anyways. Remember Me sales are indicative of this.
>>341445225
They do in Zelda. That's why the Goddesses are Goddesses.
Link can change hairstyles, including a man-bun
If you really want female Link, just dress and make him look like a girl.
A canon trap link
>>341428740
What are the logical, lore reasons for a female Link?
Not asking for bait, I'm pretty lore illiterate so I'm looking for an education thats not lifted from Tumblr.
Because link isn't female and zelda isn't male.
>>341449662
Reincarnation
>>341428740
The hero with the triforce of courage is destined to be a man,the hero with the triforce of wisdom is always a woman , and the villain with the triforce of power is a beast
also Link is cute as is
Once you start talking about the logical function of reincarnation you already lost.
>>341434390
Linkle
>>341428740
Because Link is a male character. That's like making Mario female. The reincarnation whatever doesn't change the fact that Link is one character.
>>341428740
>clipping into wall
ITS OVER NINTENDO IS FINISHED
>>341428740
Link's a boy in the legend
>>341428740
>What are the logical, lore reasons for no female option Link?
Because Link is a character not an avatar. If you want a female option to play as go play Pokemon because that's an avatar so you get a choice, Link is a character and the creator says he's male FOREVER.
>>341450170
Of a hero. Not a heroine. Skyward Sword.
>>341429867
Good advise
Will heed
>>341436770
It was always this way you just had zero reading comprehension
>>341429867
Sure, the problem is that they spent 5 hours of the game only in the very first area. It's like if they had spent 5 hours in Kokiri Village from OoT. Sure you'll get that part of the game slightly spoiled, but there's a whole game out there still.
>>341449658
>trap Link continues
Please Nintendo
>>341451863
Im more impressed that they added ragdoll deaths.
>>341429535
>guy
>>341428740
Link is a pre-established character, not an avatar. The game creators may want the player to see themselves as Link, but he himself is a character and not fully an avatar.
If they add a Female Link as an option people are going to ask for more, like different skin colors and other customizable, character creation options. Then he'll just be another player-created avatar with the name Link, which isn't the point.
>people don't remember the manga in hyrule historia that takes place before skyward sword
>they don't realise that hylia herself is the one responsible for link and zelda reincarnating because she has a crush on him and wanted to fuck him every century or so
>they still think that demise is the one responsible for it even though he only cursed link and zelda to face great evil whenever they reincarnate together
THAT is the reason why Link is always a boy and Zelda is always a girl, they're the reincarnation of the first hero and goddess Hylia.
>>341455690
>"pre-established character"
There have been a dozen different "Link"s across all the games, they're almost never the same character, they're all just different iterations of a hero for that era, there's no justifiable reason for all the heroes having to just be male
>People would seriously rather have a female Link than a game where you play as Zelda instead.
Female Link brings literally nothing different to the table except genderswap.
What the fuck is wrong with you perverse mongoloids
>>341429123
Not every link is a literal reincarnation. iirc, WW link is not a reincarnation, he had to find the triforce of courage and earn the right to use it.
>>341437305
He never had to earn the title. He was always link since the beginning of his life. He was destined to become the hero
>>341457086
There are more differences between Iroquois Pliskin and Solid Snake than between any 2 Links from different Zelda games
>>341428740
Because a female link of any consequence would have to look sufficiently different. Keeping the same design and saying 'now link is female' is completely pointless. Link is an iconic character owned by a company that leverages iconic characters. Only so much about link is allowed to change before it's just not Link anymore.
For instance, look at Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse has changed shape over the years but is still recognizably Mickey Mouse. Adding tits makes the character Minnie Mouse. It is hilariously stupid to make an entirely new character design and try and market it as the same character. Imagine we started calling Minnie Mickey. Suddenly when you say Mickey Mouse people don't instantly know who you're talking about. You just splintered the market for your character by making and marketing distinct designs under the same name.
Playable female character in Zelda is reasonable. Playable Zelda in Zelda is reasonable, if arguably against the themes of the story. Female Link is specifically a bad idea and should not be done and it has everything to do with established character marketability and nothing to do with sexism and gender politics.
>>341436230
I will give her that.
>>341458568
Mickey is in a gay relationship with Donald, who cheats on him with Goofy. Minnie is just for keeping appearances
>>341428740
it would screw with the 'save the princess' thing 80s nintendo were mad on.
would you a male zelda for a female link?
>>341457269
>WW link is not a reincarnation
Yes he is. He just has no (familial) relation to the Hero of Time.
>>341428740
BECAUSE LINK IS A BOY FUCKING DEAL WITH IT! I DON'T FUCKING CRY THAT THERE IS NO MALE SAMUS JUST FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY YOU CUNT!
>>341460227
I was just asking, friend.
I remember reading about how reincarnation in the series worked differently in this game than in other mediums and figured something might lie in that, something I myself could use to counter femLink arguments.
>>341460639
Grass is green, that should be reason enough.
