>Anti-air jabs in a game where some characters have no overhead
>a game with tick throws where you can be denied your tech due to rollback
I really want to like this game, but fucking hell capcom haven't been able to make a fighting game since 3rd strike.
>>341421042
>>Anti-air jabs in a game where some characters have no overhead
Are you having difficulties with Mika you scrub?
>>341421129
Nah senpai mika is shit tier, and scrubs love to spam the clap and get themselves punished.
More of a problem with Chun's lk (technically not a jab, but close enough) and alex's st.lp
>make a fighting game since 3rd strike.
>oh look this bitch jump
>let me anti air with st.strong
>parry into fat ass combo
>punished for using an anti air
>>341421242
Then don't fucking jump? anti-airs are shit weak in SFV.
>>341421286
Don't be predictable
>>341421286
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAUP4DC2MzM
git gud
>>341421404
Jumping in shouldn't be a 50/50 mixup, third strikes footsies were fucking AIDS for this exact reason
Balrog clips
https://twitter.com/BornFreeTweets/status/742816551309430784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7t0jy7Eb_Y&feature=youtu.be
>>341421574
jumping in 3S is not a 50/50 mixup and you literally have no idea what you are talking about, i doubt you have even played 3S.
>>341421042
>>341421404
that's the whole problem.
It's like alpha when you can block in the air.
It should be more footsies and hitboxes knowledge on a clean or trade anti air fuck that shit.
even sf4 got that right to a certain point even tho I fucking hate that game.
there it's just 1) ayy lmao he blocked 2) I don't know wtf is going on I can't even use basic shit without having to guess.
>>341421798
Post your fightcade ID
>>341421850
for what purpuse.
I'm not going to ever play sf3 ever again.
Everyone thinks jump-ins are too OP in SFV and OP thinks they're too weak. Once you miss an anti-air, you're fucked. Whereas landing an AA barely does any damage if it's not DP.
>>341421703
>Oppenent jumps at me
>Forced to guess if he is going to press a button or do an air parry
>If he presses a button and I don't anti air he gets free pressure
>If he air parries and I do anti air he gets a free combo
Watch literally any high level third strike. They're jumping all over the fucking place
>>341421928
Nice dodge, i think we can safely ignore anything you say from this point on.
>>341421953
>playing necalli
>someone jumps
fugg, I'm too slow to react with DP or the mp juggle thing
Does he have ANY good AA buttons on the ground?
>>341422035
WRONG!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAUP4DC2MzM
https://youtu.be/hH_cG8wu9yw?t=207
SFV: Volleyball confirmed.
>>341422110
>mixup situation
no he is right. Jumping in is a free mix up where you have to guess right
>>341422045
>refuse to give my ID so he can look what I play and my replays and inevitably find something to complain about
>even tho it's completly irrelevant
>so what you said earlier is null and void because I said so!
>>341422035
>jumping is viable so the game is shit
god i hate street fighter
>>341422110
>"Instead of having anti airs that are guaranteed, jump ins in 3rd strike are a mixup scenario"
Way to prove yourself wrong dummie.
>>341422271
What the fuck are you even on about faggot?
>>341422129
The trials he showed in the other video look great
Ibuki is going to be so fun
>>341421661
A character that looks actually good in V???
>>341422205
No he (you) is not right see >>341422110
>>341422375
you are literally complaining that jumping isn't absolute brainless suicide as your main argument to 3S being bad. Only capcoons bitch about antiairs so much. It's unbearableto me after playing games where movement is less predictable. I feel so in control of my character playing GG and KoF. SF feels like I have a ball and chain tied to my foot and SF players complain when that isn't the case. I find it so shocking now I don't even understand how I ever liked these games
>>341422451
In the video you link bafael says within the first minute that anti airs are not a hard counter to jumping and that jump ins are a mixup scenario.
>>341422207
*Dodging intensifies*
>>341422559
>brainless suicide
or you have to actually be smart about when you do them and can't get by with a weak ground game
>>341422559
It's stockholm syndrome for us anon.
We would rather play other games but SF is the only game that keeps any online community. GG is fun, but i imported Xrd SIGN and it was dead within a month. SF is all that remains.
>>341421042
>Anti-air jabs
Why is it important which button they use to anti-air your faggot ass?
>>341422621
>"Jumping is a high risk mixup situation that favors the grounded opponent"
>"the safest option the jumper has is to not jump at all"
>>341422729
With jabs it's possible to recover from a whiff and still jab in time to knock me out the sky, not the case with heavier attacks.
You also get a shitton more reaction time if your AA is fast.DP as an anti-air is balanced around the idea that the input takes time
>>341422559
>you are literally complaining that jumping isn't absolute brainless suicide
Nobody is. If anything SFV has too potent jump-ins. Shut the fuck up you reactionary babby.
>>341422271
Jumping forward any time you want shouldn't be viable anon. Space control is the fundamental part of high level play and free jump ins throws that out the window
>>341422898
Eh, it depends on the character if it works or not. I play Karin and her jab AA is highly situational and actually rather unreliable. Meanwhile, Chun-Li will shoot you out of the air every single time.
>>341422841
>high risk mixup situation that favors the grounded opponent
No it doesn't. The only good thing the grounded player can get is a hit that maybe knocks down, the jumper can parry to be right next to them or gets a hit which can lead to big damage
>>341422987
3S defence force.
will defend their shitty game to death.
Actually same as alpha fags.
can't talk about it without having the thread go to shit.
it's a fucking shame , when you actually want to discuss a point like zoning is weak fireballs air block no damage it immediatly goes to shit.
when you like a game you're supposed to say stuff that aren't the best but alpha/3s fags are just fuckng retarded and don't know any better.
>>341422987
He is very literally word for word complaining that he has to think when he sees a jump instead of just instinctively hitting his no-fly-zone button. Not talking about SFV, I dropped it within a month so I wouldn't know
>>341422689
I'm speaking relatively of course. Jumping is the mark of a scrub 90% of the time in SF. It's a super grounded game.
>>341423191
See >>341422110
Im going to take the word of a high level 3S player over a random nobody posting on 4chan anonymously who wont even post his fightcade ID
>>341423345
>talk about how I've been enjoying guilty gear and kof
>3s defense force
keep shitposting anon you're doing great
>>341423012
I mean I get you don't play anything other than street fighter but try not to make absurd implications like air movement means theres no space control
>>341423142
I'd rather block than go for AA jab with Karin. Too high a risk to just eat a full combo for 40% of my life. I've fallen in love with jump back jab/strong if I'm not burning meter for AAs.
>>341423345
>That one samefag who tries to shit on 3S every thread but ends up embarrassing himself every time.
>>341421242
You're having trouble with Alex's st.lp? Try Ryu's st.lp.
>>341423631
>Those people that think 3rd strike is a perfect game despite never playing it
>>341424057
>Those people that think 3rd strike is a bad game despite never playing it
>>341423847
What a shit taste.
>>341423847
Good taste
>>341423847
>V worse than 4
het
>>341424363
>V
>better than 4
LOL
>>341421242
Mika is most definitely not shit tier, she's a washing machine of vortex bullshit.
>>341423461
>Bafael
>High level
Lmao
Go read those posts were viscant explains how parries ruin everything.
>>341424880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fYiuQ8udY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYM0Aw7AHX4
BTFO
T
F
O
>>341422559
uh KoF has great grounded AAs and GG has air unblockables.
Only terrible games let you jump for free.
>>341423847
For the record, I think these pictures are retarded. I wouldn't give a shit if someone categorically listed what he thought about every single SF game in a conversation, and this is compounded by each of these games being accompanied by these dumbass looking pictures.
There charts have probably existed for years and I have thought this since the first time I saw one. Whats worse is whenever someone posts them the thread sometimes just derails into people posting responses like "dumb" "nice" or "you've got some shit taste faggot, but I respect you for the hot opinion of 'guy with gleaming eyes and watering mouth playing street fighter 3: 3rd strike'". Whats worse is when OTHER people pull out their fucking charts they probably made years ago when these were accompanied by templates.
tl;dr FUCK
>>341425023
>Bafael
>High level
>>341422057
Fucking c.HP? His basically dedicated anti-air normal?
>>341421042
Kof help us
>>341425249
>Bafael
>Not high level
Why dont you FT10 him?
>>341425268
Christ you clearly have not played Necalli, that move is straight dog shit combined with
>8 frames
Necalli AAs are DP and st.jab.
>>341425378
>Bafael
>High level
Oh man I remember all those tournaments in which he placed top 32
OH WAIT
>>341425332
KoF leave us.
>>341424617
>>341424363
>4
>good at all
Can't they both be shit?
>>341425515
>Bafael
>Not high level
So whens that FT10?
>>341424617
>>341424363
They're both good, but V is way different
>>341425623
Enter a tournament Baf, you're a fraud.
>>341425623
Not him, but Bafael beating a random /v/irgin does not make him high level and you know it, anon.
>>341421242
>mika is shit tier
>complaining about getting anti-air'd
sounds like you just dont know shit
stop jumping you faggot
>>341422378
fuckin hnnng
>>341425919
Not to mention her body splash stuffs early anti airs like a dive kick
I wonder if there will be Tekken threads like these.
>>341426156
Most of what /v/ does is complain, so yeah.
>SF4
>Normals can anti air with ease
>Can play a nice footies heavy defensive game
>SFV
>Everyone is a jumping maniac
>Can only stop them by pressuring them before they can start jumping
>Forced into a low iq hold up forward derp playstyle
Why did people think SFV was going to be good again?
>>341426276
We were promised a smart game about HARD READS and COMMITMENT
>>341422378
Hnnnng
>>341425067
no shit you tard, jumping is still good in those games, jump arcs aren't totally predictable and identical no matter what and GG has air blocking and now pseudo-parries. I'm not asking for jumping to be free you dick-licker, the air game in those titles is far more engaging than it could ever hope to be in SF however. That's my point. You can have jumping be way more useful and interesting than it is in SF without them being "free" as so many capcoons are terrified of
>>341426447
>GG is fast as fuck, incredibly responsive and features some of the best tutorials and lobbies ever made
>Dead as a doornail already because of SFV's stranglehold on the genre
Fucking hell.
Suppose it doesnt' help that its a game with a lot of dishonest bullshit, but frankly I put SFV in the same catagory
>>341421547
This youtuber is the fucking best on all the FGC regarding to S3 videos and SFV guides.
>>341426832
The point is anti airs, GG has air unblockables that lead into massive damage and oki for the specific purpose of shutting down bad jumps, if you don't have a strong anti air game you get SFV where jumping in neutral is a fantastic option that leads into 500+ damage combos and at worst gets you reset with a 30 damage jab.
Those games have in depth jumps and air mechanics because they have strong AA options.
>>341425590
>V
>good at all
>>341427254
Yes? Are you even disagreeing with me anymore? I'm not advocating free jump-ins, I'm tired of SF where it's the opposite extreme and anti airs are nearly thoughtless write a script to instantly shut down jumps tier. It's strong AA options without jumps being threatening enough to demand those strong AA options. SFV has a whole host of issues and is it's own can of worms. It's just symptomatic of the rules in place, even in SFV which as you stated has absurd jump in rewards it's still not fun or interesting to be in the air. They have Rashid who's whole design seems to have been intended to be all about mobility and high flying action and they gave him a wall jump and an air special and...it's fucking lame and ineffective. There's nothing to it. Despite all that anyways walking back and forth on the edge of throw range is still the meme of the day anyways
>>341428351
I don't know I think we're both kind of saying the same thing but are all angry about other stuff.
>Drop the game because it's shit
>Maybe pick it up when Ibuki comes out
>Trailer launches
>She may as well be a different character now
>>341428534
Yeah it would seem so. I'm sorry anon
Let's be pals
