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$500 4K VR >doesn't look like a betamax can PC Master
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$500 4K VR
>doesn't look like a betamax

can PC Master Race ever recover?
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>>341359930
Maybe 4K Pong.
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4k at 30 fps probably
they wont be able to get 60fps consistently and it will look like shit in vr
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>>341360360

decent idea
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>>341360609
According to Microsoft it's 4K 60fps with "no compromises".
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>>341360609

good luck getting a 4 grand i7 GTX1080 sli for that. probably wont even be stable since its highly unoptimized
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>>341361056

kek
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>>341360905
"Games for Windows Live will succeed, and we will make no compromises."

-Microsoft, 2010
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>>341359930
>4k system for $500
Either Microsoft have become technological gods or they are going to be taking some big losses. Or it's all bullshit.
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>>341359930
The Xbone S isnt Project Scorpio

Xbone S only does 4K Streaming

Project Scorpio is the nextbox, it will do 4K gaming and VR support
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>500$

source?
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>>341362246

it will run on AMDs next gen Polaris APU. supposedly their CPUs due to be out later this year will completely outclass the intel i7s at a fraction of the cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvF3BJTLgRQ
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>>341360905
That's what they said about Xbone with 1080p... look how that turned out.
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>>341362593
It's not 500, its 300. I don't know why OP is telling blatant lies.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one-s
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>>341362593

thats the highmark of a console price. Anything over 500 and the sales figures go down drastically. look at the original $600 ps3. it barely sold until they lowered the price down 200 bucks.
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>>341362681
Pretty sure they never said that :\
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>>341362854
That's the Xbox One S, they haven't even given a price for the Scorpio yet.
I'm expecting anywhere from $700-$900.
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>>341360905
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>>341362671
It may be cheaper, but $500 for a whole 4K system still seams like a loss.
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>>341362671
>outclass the intel i7s

No, they're looking at Haswell performance at the most. Zen is still budget CPUs. It means you can probably get a lower performing i7 at i5 prices.
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>>341359930
When will this meme end?
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>>341360609
>>341360905
"Kinect will succeed, and we will make no compromises."
"Kinect 2.0 will succeed, and we will make no compromises."
"Cloud computing will be the future, and we will make no compromises."
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>>341362854
>Talking about the scorpio
>Linking the xbox one s
I don't know why anon is telling blatant lies
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>>341362990
Wait...really? Fuck dude. Then why is the slim in the picture of the scorpio? That's really confusing
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>Just bougt a new 1080p TV
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>>341363048
seems. fuck
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>>341362951
>:\

Get the fuck out.
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>>341359930
>4K VR
Scorpio will be less powerful than a 1080.
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how is this even possible?
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>>341363295
But console companies never lie
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>>341363109

look at the right of the S. they already showed the APU for it. of course the box and controller isnt there yet.
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>>341363295

yeah it might be less powerful then a $700 card if you can afford one but then again it would be much better optimized for the game itself so i wouldn't expect to notice any performance issue.
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>>341363178
4k on TVs is a meme. You can't tell the difference on a typical size TV at a normal distances.
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>>341363847
>but then again it would be much better optimized for the game itself
Yea no, that meme's getting stale.
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>plebs thinking they will get 4k native res/60fps with 6TFLOPS.
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>>341363905

no thats just plain shit. have you ever even been to a store and seen a 4k tv in person? the detail is so much more crisp clear its about the same as SD to HD was.
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>>341364247
Yeah, at close range at the huge screens they have on display. Hey, I don't know about you. Maybe you do actually watch a 60" from three feet away but most people don't.
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>>341364240

buying a new GPU every 3 years because updates stopped.

good goy
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>>341362951

ayy
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Im calling it right now screencap this shit. Xbox One will be the last Xbox generation, once Scorpio comes out Xbox will become a platform that integrates both PC and a console. This console will not be released in generational cycles anymore but instead will be upgradable as you see fit. It will still be a closed system and its components will be manufactured by Microsoft so the games will still be optimized on consoles better than on PC.
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>>341366287

implying this wasn't known years ago.
why did you think gaben was sweating shit when he heard windows 10 was going to have its own app store
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>>341359930
oh boy, four thousand lines of pixels to display zero games

[Fart noise]
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>>341360905

i cant wait for 1080p stretched to 4k. no compromises boys.
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>>341359930
You understand betamax was industry standard outside of the consumer/end user market, right? Masters were all handled in betamax because they looked better.
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>>341367175
>1080p stretched to 4K
They said 60fps too. So it's more likely going to be 720p stretched. Even worse.
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>>341367123

>forgets cross platform play
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>>341367379
so all i have to do is buy an xbox, and i'll be able to use it to play games instead of my PC.... which i already own?
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>>341360905
>According to Microsoft
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>project scorpio is as powerful as gtx 980
Holy fuck. Pcucks will defend spending 1000-2000$ gaming pc when you can get the same power for 500$
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>>341367729

cant you even into keyboard and mouse? the new xbox is basically a hybrid PC at this point already. the software is more important feature.
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>>341359930
Dude, it's 4K Blu-ray playback, not really 4K gaming.
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>>341359930
>White

Is there a worse design decision this shit will get dirty after a week
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>>341368318
Because white master race.
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>>341368150
i ALREADY play games on a keyboard and mouse though
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>>341368119
>rx 480 is very nearly as powerful as gtx 980
>it's 200 dollars

really makes you think
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>>341368651

great now learn to use a controller cause all your PC games are finally getting the peripherals support they deserve
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>>341369115
nigger i would rather use a gravis PC pad from 1992 than that hunk of garbage. if i'm going to replace my dualshock 2 it'll be with a dualshock 4, not some M$ kinect bullshit.
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>>341359930
The fuck is a Betamax?
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>>341363079
In their defense cloud computing is the future, it's just Microsoft's marketing team really didn't understand how "the cloud" works, and ignored the fact that both steam and PlayStation use cloud servers.
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>>341363905
Can't tell the difference between 2million pixels and 8 million pixels.

Feel sorry for you.
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>>341369992
Leave. Now.
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>>341370223
Did you steal that from an ad?
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>>341359930
My PC can run 4k Video too. Good thing you can now watch 4k res porn on your Xbone. Would be cool if it ran 4k games tho.
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>>341369502

>i'm going to replace my dualshock 2 it'll be with a dualshock 4

enjoy your 2 hour battery life
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>>341370421
Sold tvs for 3 years.

So, sure. Plus I'm not blind. Owned a 4K from the beginning. Can tell the difference between my damn Samsung plasma, but maybe I'm crazy. Don't speak up when you have no idea what you're saying.
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>>341369502
MFW You want to replace shit with shit.
Wii U Pro Controller is the only controller that matters
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>>341360905

>no compromises

wtf does this shit even mean?
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>>341370801
heh yeah good one. or maybe an OUYA controller or an atari joystick with one big orange button master race.
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>>341370768
I have a pretty good idea. It could have a billion trillion pixels but it might not matter depending on the distance and panel size.
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>>341359930

>$500 for 4k VR

Maybe a 4k movie. If you want 4k games at the FPS required for VR you're going to be paying closer to $2000.
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>>341371135
>Can't prove me wrong
Lmao get mad fgt
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>>341371113
It means Microsoft will have every game be 4K 60fps and wont release anything worse than that.
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>Xbox is literally becoming a Steam Machine
This is fucking great, I can't wait for them to hurry up and kill consoles.
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>>341371179
or if the developers bother to develop something worth looking at. you can play hyper light drifter or undertale in super ultra hi def but they'll still look like garbage.

>>341371315
what's to prove? if you're a kid with stubby little kid fingers then nintendo console products are a great choice. enjoy. i'll just be over here using an actual controller.
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>>341359930
>$500 4K VR
>4K VR
Top fucking kek tryhard. Enjoy your 4k VR at silky smoth 30FPS with disgustingly low graphic settings.
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>>341363847
Dual RX480 will cost 500 usd.. and by end of the year we'll have single cards from AMD and Nvidia 1.5x or 2x horsepower of 1070/1080

AMD releasing Vega this year, it has HBM2 instead of GDDR5X. Unless Nvidia wants to get destroyed by AMD, they'll follow the suit.
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it will be easy to achieve with AMDs new chips. all they need to do is get them to make a custom board with 2-3 480s and it will be about 500 bucks
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>>341359930
>6tflops
6 TFLOP card is basically a 290x slightly overclocked or a GTX 980, that shit isn't going to hit 60fps 4K. Even with huge amounts of optimizations.
They'll probably go 1440p and upscale to 4K for games that require 60HZ
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Game will not play games at 4k 60 fps.

The new Nvidia GPU can't even reliably do that and it cost 700 dollars.

The developer during the promo, if you paid attention, actually gave away the specs of this. He said 6 tflops. That means that this will be about the equivilant of the AMD 480. The 480 is being sold for 200 dollars. The entire SOC is 6tflops meaning if he meant the entire processing power, it's a i7 with a r9 390.

It can do 1440p 30 fps. It can actually do 1080p 60 fps. It will not in any realm of existence do 4k 60 fps.
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>>341372158
THIS. You basically need at least 2x 970 to run anything 4k @ 60fps
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>>341371692
>actual controller
>only lasts 4 hours
Hahahahahahaha wew; okay anon that's enough jokes
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>>341372552
>kids that don't understand what "if" means

dualshock 2s don't have batteries lil guy, i know you're too young to know what they are but you can google anything these days
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>>341372859

but the ones with the big blue led does

sony engineering at its finest
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>>341373719
seriously google the word "if", you're going to learn something
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>>341373982
nice trip. are you like some janitor here or??
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>>341372859
I was talking about you replacing the xbox one controller fo the ps4 controller.
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>>341369115
Way, way ahead of you.
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>>341359930
>4k VR
but headset screen is only 1080p?
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>>341374130
/hoc/ ambassador

>>341374427
why? i don't have a bone controller and i never said i did. in fact, i said i never would.
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>>341374484

nice anon i have an elite controller too. i put KF vortex on my thumbpads since the concave does begin to hurt my thumb after sprinting too long in battlefront
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>>341362990
No way is MS that stupid.
They can afford to sell at a loss unlike Sony but they aren't going above 500 for the Xbox Scorpio.
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>>341376385
$600 is going to be very hard sell.
>>341375636
I am mostly KB+M, so I haven't experienced that fatigue issue.
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>>341362990
>>341376385
>>341376659
600$ for a new console would be a ps3 all over again.
500$ if they want to sell it with out a loss
400$ for a real loss but people would buy the shit out of something thats 4k and only 400$
probably 450$ because its not a deep wound but it will sting.
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>>341378086
>500$ if they want to sell it with out a loss
If you think a console with a GPU with 6 TFLOPs of compute power won't be selling at a loss at $500 then you might be retarded.
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>>341363905
>>341364247
It really depends on the size of the TV and the distance. Personally, I don't care much for 4K because my internet can't stream it, can barely torrent it, and having gamed on a 4K rig, I really think 1440p is the sweet spot if I /had/ to upgrade.
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is Project Scorpio suppose to be an add on or a the "New" Xbox One
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>>341379817
New Xbone.
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>>341379817

its basically a PC in the living room.
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>>341378379
is 6 TFLOPS the new 8GB GDDR5?
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>>341364247
>See a 4k TV at best buy.
>Look around and realize real life looks worse.

What is happening?
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>>341381637

the RX polaris uses HBM2 which is like three times faster then GDDR5. thats how it gets the insane 6 TFLOPS of data.
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>>341372091
>Crossfire ever

Anon pls, if you have the money to Crossfire, just put the money into a more expensive card.
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>>341371551
Inb4 Nintendo 64 graphics
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>>341382294

>Inb4 Nintendo 64 graphics

whats wrong with the golden era of gaming?
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>>341381985
>the RX polaris uses HBM2
No actually, it doesn't.
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>>341381878
Because 4KTV usually use dolled up pictures of European streets and rivers for their previews and you're standing in a florescent lit warehouse filled with wage cucks and overpriced ear buds?
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>>341382072

Yeah one powerful card is much better then 2 but Nvidia is seriously become greedy
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>>341382860

i assume it was intended for polaris since vega is based on the same architecture.
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>>341382620
Nothing, but that's what my xbro friend always says when he sees things like open world games that don't look as nice as his hallway simulators.
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