>Combat is literally dark souls
>Exploration is skyrim
Jesus christ
I don't remember Dark Souls having Witch Time
>>341290710
You're a complete retard or you didn't play Dark Souls.
>Stamina
>Those health bars
>D-Pad weapon switching and shown on screen
>Weapon durability
>Dodge rolling
We all know Dark Souls didn't invent these things, but sticking them all together? It's pretty clear to see why people are feeling a Casual Dark Souls vibe from this.
What's the problem, superior dark souls combat and top notch skyrm exploration being brought to a series that previously was terrible at both.
Improvments all round faglord.
>>341290710
>kids keep screaming that Zelda should be more like Dark Souls combat
>WAH! Its like Dark Souls! It sucks!
I bet next you're gonna complain about the dystopian setting and voice acting, despite that those things being the most wanted things.
Once again Nintendo does exactly what fans want. And they complain. Perhaps Nintendo should just give up, since the fans don't even know what they want.
I WANT A RELEASE DATE
>look at the size of that meat
>it's glistening
lewdest treehouse yet
>>341295262
Here's a hint for you. It will come out the day the NX launches.
>>341295010
Except we want ZELDA more PUZZLES
jesus christ I don't want a dark souls and skyrim ripoff
>combat is dark souls
>exploration is skyrim
>game is GOTY
Sounds about right
Everything about it looks amazing so far
The same people who clamored for a Zelda game with Dark Souls combat and Elder Scrolls open world are now criticizing it.
Like clockwork
You fucking idiots will complain about anything.
>>341290710
>>Combat is literally dark souls
You wish ninentdo nigger.
I'm literally foaming at the mouth over how good this game is
>>341295485
>nintendo fans want less puzzles
>miyamoto gives them less puzzles
>nintendo fans want a more realistic style
>miyamoto gives them a realistic style
>fans now want a less realistic style
>miyamoto gives a less realistic style
>nintendo fans now want literally no puzzles
>miyamoto gives a minimum of 5 puzzles per game
This is nintendo fans fault nigger. Miyamoto has given everything the fans want and you fucks still complain about bullshit
>>341295634
>everyone is the same
>>341296060
Im literally jizzed on my dog from excitement.
>>341296216
Canada please
>people complaining when they are given what they want
>>341295485
The dungeons will probably have puzzles. I personally think the puzzles are something they should have less of. Twilight Princess especially went overboard with puzzles. But there will undoubtedly be puzzles.
It looks to me like a combination of Shadow of the Colossus and Shadow of Mordor. People saying it looks like Skyrim are simpletons, and people who're saying it's "empty" have ADHD.
>>341290710
So... is it suppose to sounds bad?
Oh boy, is this one of those "the fanbase is a hivemind that all want the same thing" threads?
>>341297029
Nobody asked for this.
>Combat is literally Dark Souls
Dark Souls combat is just Zelda combat with higher enemy attack damage, or are you people idiots?
>>341297365
Literally every open world game ever gets called "empty". I've found it means nothing at this point.
What even makes an open world not "empty"?
Where is the 60fps? Did they say if it will be 4k? Steam when?
Does Chica have the downs?
>>341290710
>Comparing a game to two totally different games
>Getting mad that the combat and exploration is similar to two other games that are also two of the best games ever made
>Complaining that a game might be good
did you just want bad games or what
>>341296138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-avN1eDoQ
>>341291602
Both are pretty much the worst of their respective genres.
>>341291602
>superior dark souls combat
too far
>>341290710
This looks like more of the same. I don't mean to shitpost, but I can't quite understand why people still get excited over Zelda games.
They're just the same experience with a different skin. yeah, you can argua all games are just that, but at least other games TRY to change some things up.
>>341297794
Nice meme
>>341290710
>Exploration is skyrim
Except you can actually climb that Mountain.
stop hitting yourself
>>341298206
I wasn't complaining or praising it, just stating the obvious,
>>341297757
>total free roaming
>less linear events
>more variety of items
I've been asking for this since the GameCube days.
Dark Souls is zelda combat. Look at OoT and tell me it isn't similar to DS
>>341297757
I sure as hell did
>>341298440
It's at least way superior to the shit sword combat every other Zelda game has
that's not saying much though
>nothing like dark souls
>skyrim invented exploration
Holy fuck you niggers are retarded. How the fuck do you think zelda combat matches dark souls combat? And the fucking "skyrim" exploration. Skyrim must be the only adventure game you know if you think zelda is copying skyrim. Play more fucking games and lose your cancer
I love Zelda as much as the next person but..It looks like a boring empty world with the Zelda formula slapped on it, with physics gimmics. Or is it just me
>>341299321
When you're trying to invent a new meme, you don't try to tell the truth. You try to appeal to symbols understood by the dumbest people. As they are going to be the ones pushing the meme.
>>341298445
>more of the same
Despite the fact that Zelda games really change things up more than most series and are only superficially similar.
World isn't the linear, closed-in shit of Skyward Sword. There's a climbing mechanic so the world actually has a lot of verticality now. Shield surfing. Combat looks way improved with loads of weapons and shit like jumping. Enemies changing behaviour due to time of day/weather. Survival elements.
This is a pretty drastic change. Idiots just see the same character and go "woooww same game".
>>341293583
I don't care about any of that, i just want puzzles
>>341290710
>Combat is literally dark souls
This has to be bait
>OP is literally retarded
>>341299919
Then go play Golden Sun if all you want is shitty NPC dialogue and puzzles.
>>341298474
>>341299370
>Lock on to enemy
>Very obvious attack telegraphs and patterns
>Put your shield up to block attacks
>Strafe or roll around to attack his flank
This is Dark Souls and Zelda's basic combat flow. They are the exact same. The only difference is in Zelda you can take a fair share of hits and enemies don't mob you. Dark souls also has more DEX based combat potential and mechanics such as parry and two handed carry, but the basic design philosophy and gameplay loop is the same.
It doesn't look any more similar to Dark Souls than Ocarina of Time.
>>341300261
Do you know how many games have lock on w shield and sword combat? Kys. And even oot had this before demon souls so quit meming dark souls in Zelda faggot
>no lengthy introduction
>so far only one character is voice acted
>new gameplay mechanics
>destructible open world
>refined SS artsyle
>finally a zelda game that captures pic related
Did nintendo finally do something right?
>>341299919
>he thinks there are "puzzles" in Zelda games
If shooting a button with an arrow is a "puzzle" then using your keys to start your car is a puzzle too
>can go through any "shrine" at any point in time
so every "shrine" is just
>go inside
>kill enemy
>no gimmicks at ALL to solve puzzles
>And even oot had this before demon souls so quit meming dark souls in Zelda faggot
I don't think you have very good reading comprehension.
>Sonygger shitposting running rampant since the Sony Conference
When does the Neogaf astroturfing stop?
>>341290710
>Combat is literally dark souls
I see no problem here. More games need to copy the masterpiece that is DS combat.
>>341300883
Meant to reply to
>>341300591
>>341296164
If you were an expert in psychology like me you would know this is actually true.
>>341300984
>>341290710
Who here is going shield sledding first chance they get.
MGSV + Skyrim + GTA + WW = Zelda Breath of the wild.
People here saying Zelda combat is copying Dark Souls combat are like people saying GTA is copying True Crime
>>341301317
But this is clearly Aonuma trying to emulate the structure of Western RPGs. It's blatantly obvious.
>>341295956
here's your reply
>>341300612
>finally a zelda game that captures pic related
That last one is definitely not confirmed. The art style certainly doesn't capture the girtty 80s anime style. And the game design remains to be seen.
I certainly hope it will be the true Zelda 1 revival that Aonuma claims it is. But while I'm optimistic about everything I'm seeing, I'm just not seeing that yet.
>>341301183
Thanks for proving my point
>>341301494
Funny. I haven't seen any WRPG with decent free roaming exploration. Only western games like RDR, which is anything but a WRPG.
>>341298313
You're a delusional contrarian buddy.
>>341301494
Dark Souls is a JRPG
Damn I want to play it right now...
>wooow some players might attack this enemy, in a (((DIFFERENT))) """""WAY""""!
>Wooow we can GRAB the loot from its hidden location and just, place it anywhere we like! xD
>Link is literally Magneto
Kinda cool actually. Improved version of that item from the Oracle games.
>>341302049
Damn... too bad you're not a treehouse presenter huh.......
>>341301494
>Dark Souls is a WRPG
Also, Japanese devs have been stealing from WRPGs since the beginning. Those nips thought Wizardry and Ultima were the hottest shit and wanted to bring that to consoles and Japanese home computer systems.
>>341290710
>Exploration is skyrim
Are you people retarded on purpose?
>>341302342
>Those nips thought Wizardry and Ultima were the hottest shit and wanted to bring that to consoles and Japanese home computer systems.
And Dragon Quest was born and eventually became superior to its inspiration. Maybe we should let japs rip off everything we create so they can make it better.
>>341301585
It looks more like Princess Mononoke, which is still gritty anime.
>>341300261
There are stamina losses for blocking and enemies don't flinch constantly, which are massive differences that completely change how it plays. You're full of shit and you know it.
Thank god they are copying western gameplay concepts. I can't stand the JRPG standard these days. It's just game after game, developed like they are living in a bubble, with anime cancer.
>>341300261
So, you're describing Zelda combat. I hope you know that.
>>341301010
But it won't work here. The game looks neat but when it comes out, we'll remember that Zelda has and always will be, pap games for children and casuals. If it's anything like any other Zelda there will be heart pieces and fairy fountains all over the place. And that's a problem because Zelda has never incentivized exploration because all the games are piss easy.
In Dark Souls, exploration is a central mechanic of the game because it can reward you with a weapon, item or spell that can help you with a boss thats kicking your ass. Unless you're under the age of 12, Zelda will never kick anybody's ass.
>>341302978
I feel like there's a joke in this post that went over my head.
poor old robin would have enjoyed this
>>341302675
This game looks nothing like Mononokehime. If it looks like anything, its Laputa crossed with Ponyo. Just like Skyward Sword did (and Skyward Sword even directly copied Laputa).
>>341290710
>slowed down enemies
This game is literally Bayonetta
>>341302978
from makes better western games than western devs do.
>>341290710
You dont know what souls combat looks like. Monster hunter would be a better comparison for this game than souls or colossus and even then only superficially.
DeS's combat took a lot of inspiration from 3D Zelda's, so it's hardly surprising.
I want to cum inside gamer gril
>>341303783
>monster hunter
Holy shit now THIS is bait
>>341300661
Hey Egoraptor
>>341290710
>People have enjoyed both of those things
>Suddenly it's bad
Kill yourself. Seriously. Do it.
>>341304556
It is closer to MH than the other two he mentioned simply because it has crafting and the way enemies react.
>Combat is literally dark souls
Except not even as close as complex in the slightest.
>Exploration is skyrim
Except being so much better. You want to compare the exploration to another game? Compare it to MGSV, except better. You've got a literal copy cat idroid for christ sake.
>>341305162
>enjoying games
>on MY /v/
NOT ON MY WATCH
>>341304556
Did you even read the post
>fucking MGS3 BEEEEES
>>341297757
besides literally everyone? Fucking vocal contriarian minority, stop making shitty threads and kill yourself already
>Dark Souls shamelessly rips off Zelda
>Nintendo releases a new Zelda with an improved version of the previous games' gameplay
>"MUH DARK SOULS DID IT FIRST"
Fucking kill yourselves From niggers.
>>341305735
Who gives a fuck about the combat. I WANT TO SEE PUZZLES
WHERE ARE THE PUZZLES NINTENDO
>>341305162
> bringing edgy dark souls Bullshit IN MY ZELDA (thats why majoras mask is shit)
>bringing mainstream shit like skyrim IN MY ZELDA( it was shit as well)
Fuck you faggots. Zelda needs to be another Ocarina or wind waker. That's it!
its dark souls and skyrim if they were released on the gamecube
>>341306381
THEY LITERALLY SHOWED A DUNGEON IN THE LAST HOUR, WHERE WERE YOU?
Literally every game is becoming the same
>>341306246
>gameplay in which you lock on, block with a shield, and hit with a sword are now all automatically Dark Souls/Zelda ripoffs
I want this ripoff meme to die
>copy features from other great games
So basically it's going to be a great game?
What's the problem?
>>341306527
I HAVE CLASS BETWEEN ONE AND THREE CENTRAL AND THE STREAM ON MY PHONE IS SHIT
>>341306815
I'M SORRY MAYBE SOMEONE WILL UPLOAD ALL THE GAME PLAY, THE DUNGEON WAS NEAT IT HAD THE SAME DESIGN AS THE ROOM YOU WAKE UP IN
Dark souls just perfected the Zelda formula so I don't see how this is a problem?
I want a better look at this Jap chick
>>341297757
>NES Zelda exploration
>More weapons that just what is used to solve the current dungeon
>More to the world than Hyrule field and each dungeon town
>NES ZELDA EXPLORATION
I've been asking for this shit for years.
I don't know if Nintendo won E3, but Zelda is definitely the game I'm most hype for.
>>341307071
Except for being clunky as all fuck and having shit hit detection in the case of DaS1?
>>341306762
eventually you're not playing Zelda anymore but what do you care you're just a video game memer
I feel like the point is not that these things are bad, but... they're late.
Yeas, people desperately asked for this, but they asked it in 2011; instead they got SS.
What is the point now, when there are better games that already do these things in a more creative, polished and clever way?
Tell me, what stopped them from making this five years ago when it would actually have been impressive? Certainly not the graphics, look at pic related.
The comparison with Skyrim comes from the fact that it came out the same year as SS, but did exactly what this new game can do and more
It's like saying that Space Invaders is a great game - yes it is, but it would be ridiculous if it was released today, wouldn't it?
>>341307335
Zelda combat has been shit for a long time. Dark souls combat is an improvement in every way. Not to mention item breakage which zelda also copied.
>>341298313
You're pretty much a faggot that needs to eat lead. Seriously, die.
>>341307551
Zelda combat doesn't need to be anything other than what it has been. Dark Souls combat being better is a shit O P I N I O N
>>341291508
>>341290710
>Combat is literally dark souls
Is that a bad thing? I've never played DaS
>>341307413
Games like space invaders ARE still being released, a phone games. They sell well, they do well, there is a market for people who want those game.
Your basis for this opinion is poor. Releasing a game with content people want, whether it's now or 5 years ago, people will buy the shit out of it. As long it's what people want.
>>341307939
It's a meme. The combat isn't like Dark Souls.
>>341303142
I take it you have played Skyward sword no shield hero mode 6 heart challenge with the the eternal mangekyo sharingan
>>341308032
Yeah, they are released as phone games that cost $1.99
This is the newest installment of a major triple A franchise that was anticipated and kept hyped for years.
You can kind of see the difference.
>>341297757
Fuck off this is what I've always wanted
>>341307839
>opinion
it's an evolution of the OoT combat, to insult dark souls combat which is refined and more sustained is an insult to Zelda
You just called your own game shit without realizing it.
It's factual that Dark Souls IS the next step for Zelda. To deny that is laughable.
>>341303231
the joke is that dark souls is actually a jrpg
>>341308497
Retro throwbacks are a thing. Just look at something like Shovel Knight for example.
>>341307839
Dark Souls is a better Zelda game than any Zelda game Nintendo has ever published.
>>341290710
The combat is not "literally" Dark Souls. You can two-hand weapons and hold up a shield but that's where the comparisons end. The dodge with slomo is straight out of Bayonetta, Dark Souls would never do something like that. And Skyrim did not invent exploration you retarded normie. The original Legend of Zelda was all about exploration, this game is just returning to that.
From what we've seen so far, the game is still Zelda but with less restrictions. The physics are a lot more free-form, there's equipment, there's a bunch of weapons, the world is bigger, etc. And there's still dungeons, and now mini-dungeons that are called shrines (basically linear puzzle gauntlets). It looks great honestly.
>>341307939
It's a great thing. The combat is the best part of DaS.
>>341303142
Have you ever played the first zelda? I know the other ones have nothing to do with it, but damn son, stop describing it and saying it's dark souls
>>341291508
Monster hunter
The gameplay looks more like Nier honestly.
It looks really really clunky compared to TP.
>>341290710
YEARS AND YEARS OF PEOPLE SAYING EVERYONE SHOULD JUST COPY DARK SOULS COMBAT
THEY DO
THAT'S NOW A BAD THING
>>341308868
>Implying DS isn't a copy of OoT...
>>341310175
I don't think OP said that.
>>341308658
Please don't use phrases like "the next step for Zelda"
Dark Souls combat is a step in the wrong direction
>>341308868
you're a meme
>>341309294
all the shrines have identical aesthetic from what ive seen, no differentiating them. The open world also looks really empty which is what i feared, especially compared to witcher 3 or even skyrims open world.
>>Combat is literally dark souls
>It's the same as every other Zelda but with breakable weapons (something not even new to the series)
You get a fucking WOLF!!!!!! That's it, I'm buying this.
This is basically an Ubisoft game.
They're playing this for hours because the gameplay consists of doing the same shit over and over.
>>341310293
>>341307839
>O P I N I O N
>Dark Souls combat is a step in the wrong direction
embarrassing desu
I'm going to tell you frothing, stinky Dark Soul fan boys this once. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is perfect and the notion that the combat can be improved upon makes my blood boil. Please keep your meme game and its meme combat away from OoT's glorious pre-memeworld combat
>>341307413
>but did exactly what this new game can do and more
Like mountain climbing?
Meaningful physics interplay with the game world?
Distinct mini dungeons with tailored puzzles?
Fucking spears?
>combat from darksouls
>exploration from skyrim
>graphics from10 years ago
>>341310702
this guy gets it
it's like you can't make a video game open world without ruining it. We might as well be playing the witcher with a zelda skin and halfassed graphics
>>341311089
Kek
>>341311064
>Like mountain climbing?
Whis is... another way to get up mountains, wow. I mean, it's a thing that is not bad to have, but I wouln't define it a deal breaker
>Meaningful physics interplay with the game world?
Yes?
>Distinct mini dungeons with tailored puzzles?
YES?
>Fucking spears?
Fuck off, for every weapon that's here and is not there I can cite you one that's there and not here (does this game have magic staffs or daggers? There, now we're even)
