Are you idiots forgetting the MGSV fiasco? Why's this hack getting so much people to gargle over his spunk?
Because, ostensibly anyway, the MGSV fiasco wasn't his fault, it was Konami's.
fresh from norman reedus' instagram
I'm personally just excited to see him do something other than metal gear.
>>341201894
>keeps asking for more money and schedule delays
>over and over again
>konami gets sick of his shit and tells him to finish it
>it's konami's fault
Konami is shitty for many reasons but MGSV was completely Kojima's fault.
>>341201642
MGSV suffered a lot from internal strife. My theory is that Kojima deliberately fucked the budget on the game because he's been wanting to get away from Metal Gear for years. The only way to get loose when you're a cash-cow for a shitty company like Konami is to screw the budget. MGSV was just an exit ticket for him, I expect Death Stranding to be a return to form.
>>341202393
>keeps asking for money
the game was 80 mil which is literally nothing for a big AAA game. CD projekt which is almost indie spend 81 mil on witcher, and bethesda took 100 mil plus on the garbage that was FO4 so what are you talking about
>schedule delays
He talked about the delays and he said it was delayed once do some more research
>>341202638
>a bullshit fan theory is fact
Yeah & Todd ruined Elder Scrolls because he wanted to get away from it
See i can bullshit too
>>341202638
>>341202483
>deliberately sabotages sequel to the series that makes everyone like him
>this is a good thing
>>341202767
It was far more than Konami has ever spent on a single game
>>341201642
/v/ loves MGSV because it was western enough for them, despite the rocket punch, fulton, gravity fulton, zombie soldiers & story line theatrics.
It wasn't a weeb game, honestly!!
>>341203626
It was probably because of the ugly chick - Western game written all over it.
>>341201642
>fiasco
>hack
Hey you're back again. Just got BTFO by Kojimas next art house masterpiece huh?
>>341201642
this
i have no interest in the game until a month after release and I can see how it is.
I really don't give a fuck whos at fault for MGSV. He put his name at the start of every single mission. He's taking as much blame.
>>341201642
Did you see that fucking trailer? It was fucking perfect, Kojimbo may make shitty games but got damn it he is entertaining as fuck.
>>341203759
>ugly chick
>literal model
fuck off kawaii uguu grey alien cunt
>>>/a/
I loved mgsv it had excellent gameplay
>>341202928
>It was far more than Konami has ever spent on a single game
Thats hardly Kojimas fault when the company he works for only wants to spend money making pachinko machines.
>>341202483
so he's the reason konami doesnt have money to make castlevania?
>>341206329
But it's okay for him to sabotage games that his fans i.e. you, were looking forward to?
>>341204319
This. And this game doesn't seem different desu
>Writer/Director Hideo Kojima
>Producer Hideo Kojima
>Script by Hideo Kojima
>A Game by Hideo Kojima
>Game design by Hideo Kojima
>Kojima studio of Kojima Productions
Kojima seems like he'd be a cunt to work with.
>>341201894
>the MGSV fiasco wasn't his fault
>>341201894
>spend all the budget in jack bawer
>spend all the dev time in dinners with your waifu
>I..ITS KONAMS FAULT
>>341201642
But MGS5 has fantastic gameplay though. There isn't an open world game out there like it that does as in-depth in mechanics as MGS5 does.
>>341202393
You can say that with a straight face after witnessing the route Konami is currently taking? I understand too much praise for a single person is never good, and no man should be untouchable, but let's face facts. Konami held him back, especially with the direction they wanted to go. Maybe now that he's off his leash he'll bring something to the table that everyone can admit is quality, finished work. If not, then lynch him, sure, but don't judge him based off of MGSV alone. He poured everything he had into that series, and it was a massive success. Don't let recent failure blind you from a past of success. Besides, don't you wanna take a ride on the cruise, even if it isn't Metal Gear themed?
>>341205510
You have bad taste in European type models senpai.
Well thinking Dutch chicks are hot must be some neck beard fetish.
>>341209769
FYI AMWF is a score in Kojima's pocket, no matter what the white female looks like as long as it's in the weight and shape limits.
>>341201642
Koijimadrones love taking his tiny yellow weiner up their assholes.
>>341210431
what games do you like to play?
>>341201642
People are sheep
>>341207470
>sabotage
You're delusional.
LISTEN UP YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS. I AM GOING TO LAY DOWN THE FUCKING LAW FOR YOU RETARDS
METAL GEAR SOLID V BEING SHIT WAS 100% NOT FUCKING KONAMI'S FAULT.
If Konami would have not put a deadline on the game and kept going Kojima money, it wouldn't have fixed the problems with the game, SUCH AS:
>The retarded story
>Vocal Chord Parasites
>The Medic being Big Boss Bullshit
>Everyone magically knowing where you are when one random guard spots you
>The crappy open world with nothing in it
>Big Boss/Medic having pretty much no voiced lines
>Skullface's not making sense and being a retarded villain
>Nothing being solved in the end and nothing making sense.
>No real/good boss fights
>No escape sequence
>No part where Snake loses all of his weapons and has to escape.
All of these things were in the fucking game because Kojima wanted them to be in. He is SO retarded he actually thought that vocal chord parasites, a language of nukes and Skullface were "cool" and would make for a GOOD game that people would like. He's THAT retarded.
In conclusion, Kojima is a retard. If you're still on his side after knowing all of that, you are retarded as well. For people who say, "I am not buying another Metal Gear Solid game unless Kojima's name is on it!" You are retarded too. All Metal Gear games made by Kojima to come out past 3 have been fucking horrible. The ONLY GOOD METAL GEAR GAME on the PS3 generation and further was Metal Gear Rising Revengance, a game that KOJIMA DIDN'T FUCKING TOUCH.
Are people who appose Kojima the most cancerous contrarians on /v/?
>>341208229
Why?
>>341202928
You spend money to make money anon, if they stuck with it, it would have made it back instantly. Kojima pretty much was Konami for 12 years
MGS5 was a great game.
It's you under age faggots who hyped it up to be something it wasn't that are the problem, mostly because you were 5 when MGS2 came out.
>>341211260
You wrote all that text to sound like a nitpicking entitled underaged idiot.
>>341211506
>entitled
Kill yourself
>>341211260
Just read over my post and forgot to mention more stupid fucking shit:
ANYONE could have written a better Metal Gear Solid V. I could have, YOU could have. Let's think about it this way: If Kojima wanted to make a new Metal Gear Solid game about Big Boss, he could have set in the game in the 90's instead of the 80's and had EVERYTHING be pretty much the same.
If he wanted to call Big Boss something besides Big Boss, don't call him Venom Snake, call him SALADIN.
If he wanted to have a sexy sniper companion, don't call her Quiet, call her SNIPER WOLF.
If he wanted to have Big Boss control a big base, let's not have it be Motherbase/Outer Heaven, let's call it ZANZIBAR LAND.
The list here goes on. Every single character in Metal Gear Solid V doesn't mean anything and could have been written better by anyone but Kojima.
>>341202393
The game shipped 6 million copies by the end of 2015 (ie. within 4 months), and who knows how many since then. I'd say that's a good return for an 80 million dollar investment.
>>341211260
>I know exactly what happened during a development process I know nothing about will never because I'm dedicated faggot
Off yourself
>>341211698
So you are an entitled piece of shit preteen?
Just end it already.
>>341211809
I don't really claim that I know what happened, but given the information we have and what we can conclude from it, Metal Gear Solid V was made by Kojima, he looked over the whole game in it's state, he wrote the story and said, "Yeah, this is okay."
Thus, it's his fault. He suddenly became shitty at making Metal Gear games past Metal Gear Solid 3.
>>341211260
t. Konami Entertainment
>>341211939
>entitled
Kill yourself
>>341211747
What retarded ideas. Please stop posting.
>>341211939
Not that guy, but I can't believe you're trying to defend Metal Gear Solid V. What the fuck is there to defend? It's just a bad game. Also,
>entitled
Kill yourself.
>>341212098
What's so bad about my ideas? The foundation for a good Metal Gear Solid story concerning Big Boss was all there, Kojima just didn't use them because he wanted to FREAK US OUT with an EPIC PLOT TWIST that he already pulled in Metal Gear Solid 2, and would be impossible to pull in the modern age where everything gets spoiled and the internet exists.
>>341212113
>It's just a bad game
Nah, it's pretty fun to play.
>>341212057
Nice rebuttal, really shows your age.
>>341212113
The story has problems, but the game is fantastic regardless of the entitled underaged opinion of someone who probably played the series recently.
>>341212285
Why do you keep fucking posting? "Fun" isn't a good argument because that's entirely subjective.
Sure, you can imagine that a generic open world first person shooter is "Fun", but others might not think that.
In fact, given the mechanics alone, Metal Gear Solid 5 isn't "fun". The fact that as soon as one guard spots you, they all INSTANTLY know where you are completely breaks the entire game. Reflex mode is so fucking overpowered you can sprint through every level and still get S ranks even if you use it.
>>341212486
Neither is "bad" you hypocrite.
>>341212330
You didn't say WHY the game was fantastic. You just said that it was fantastic and then called the poster an "entitled underage" person.
Even from a gameplay standpoint the game is not "fantastic".
>>341208229
>>341211308
Egotistical.
It's like he's the only one that matters.
He's made some good games, but everything is getting totally bogged down by his ego. It's the same reason why the star wars prequels were shit. George Lucas had far too much control and was doing the directing, scripting, producing, etc.
Kojima has a massive fucking ego.
>>341211747
Yeah I agree, most people could have made a better MGS5 script. But that's not saying much.
>>341211747
People would have been leagues more disappointed with this than they would even with the twist that we got. This is literally the most obvious shit possible and there's no way it would live up to the absurd theories people were spitting out through the years. Keeping some of the factions and characters new was a plus, and certainly not the biggest problems with the game.
>>341212554
What the fuck, mate. I JUST pointed out reasons why the game isn't "Fun" or "Fantastic".
How about you give some fucking EVIDENCE like I am?
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>>341212486
>a concept that has been established since day one makes it a bad game
>I have no idea how Metal Gear works
Please stop posting.
>>341212486
Turn off reflex mode pham. The rest of us did without any autism.
>>341212719
>MY ANECDOTAL SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES COUNT AS EVIDENCE
>BUT YOURS DON'T
>>341212713
I've played Metal Gear Solid V for an accumulated 227 hours. I've probably talked about 40 hours with my friends about how ass the fucking game is.
You say that it wouldn't live up to any of the hype that people had been talking about, but maybe it could have at least TRIED to live up to that hype instead of completely miss a ton of plotpoints that actually would have made it THE MISSING LINK and the END OF THE SAGA.
>>341212719
>opinions are evidential
Oh boy.
>>341212610
>>341212486
>>341212330
Metal Gear Solid is an anomaly. It has -amazing- mechanics and gameplay, but it's wrapped up in an incredibly bland and shitty environment which doesn't have any impact or intensity.
You're literally running around incredibly bland environments, knocking out 3 ish guards at a time then attaching balloons to them.
If MGS5 had a more structured, and linear sneaking mission, akin to Shadow Moses, The Big Shell, or Groznygrad it would have been a much better and satisfying game.
MGS5 just feels like you're randomly stumbling around and then it just ends because they needed to end it.
>>341201642
Retards think it was Konami's fault Kojima blew 80 million trying to fuck a horselady.
>>341212719
kill yourself already
>>341212486
>completely breaks the entire game
No it fucking doesn't you hyperbolic faggot. You can evade and hide just as you could before.
>>341212719
>I have no idea how arguments work
>>341201642
>Are you idiots forgetting the MGSV fiasco?
what fiasco? it's the third best Metal Gear
>>341212868
Again, you didn't respond with any evidence you fucking retard.
This isn't my own anecdotal subjective experience, the fact that you are spotted and ALL GUARDS ARE ALERTED TO YOUR POSITION is something that ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THE GAME TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PLAYED IT.
Not just me.
>>341212853
Turning off Reflex mode does not fix the glaring problem that the game was built around using it, and all the guards instantly know your position if one spots you.
>>341212793
Just because a design concept was in the game since day one does not make it okay. In Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, if you were spotted by one guard, they had to radio it in before all the other guards were alerted.
>>341201642
>The newest Kojima game is literally a Gulf of Mexico Simulator
BP....BP never changes.
This is absolutely unfucking real.
You fucking retards are ACTUALLY defending Metal Gear Solid V. A blatantly poor game and you're all defending it.
I thought that /v/ was generally considered to have some kind of taste, but holy fuck have you all convinced me otherwise.
>>341213339
Almost had a passing grade, but you left out "objectively" in your post
F+
>>341213339
Honestly I think ground zeroes is a better game than MGS5.
>>341213140
i didn't respond with any evidence because i'm not the guy you originally replied to :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
i was just pointing out you being retarded :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
>ALL GUARDS ARE ALERTED TO YOUR POSITION is something that ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THE GAME TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PLAYED IT.
and you're the only one who thinks that's stupid
so it's a subjective point
>>341202483
>it was MEANT to be shit
>>341213140
>making up subjective crap to support argument
>caps lock
>quoting the wrong person in reply to the previous person
Yeah, that's damage control.
>>341211260
>>Everyone magically knowing where you are when one random guard spots you
That's factually untrue, the alert is localised to a relatively small area given the scope of the world. You can be on the run from some guards and find others that don't have a fucking clue you're there, and aren't looking for you, BEFORE the alert on the previous guards has lifted.
>>341213339
you idiots like God Hand and the first Baldur's Gate and even NWN2, you never had taste
>>341213339
It's a fine game.
Stop posting, you dumb faggot.
>>341213339
>If I sound exasperated then it makes you wrong!
Like, SERIOUSLY, I can NOT believe I am reading this right now. UGH.
>>341211989
This is all made up by your imagination, you dumb idiot.
>>341213480
Post discarded.
>>341213534
Sorry, everyone on the base will know where you are. WHOOPS.
>>341213670
"Fine" is just "Fine", Fine is not "Good" or "Fantastic". Please just say that the game is average as balls, unlike the previous Metal Gear games with in fact, WERE fantastic.
I am just stating this all because I love videogames, and I want good videogames, and have evidence to back up why these games are good. I want good games like the previous Metal Gear Solid games to survive.
I never thought the Metal Gear Solid was the kind of series that would bow to industry trends like generic open worlds. I thought that it would take the concept and completely flip it around or do something interesting, but no. You're all retards who like the most generic game as long as it has a fake "open world" for you to "explore" and find nothing in.
Go play the latest Ubisoft game you fucking faggots.
>>341211260
Well said.Kinda heated, aren't you?
>>341214243
>Post discarded.
i win
>>341213339
>/v/
>having taste.
It took you this long to realize it?
>>341214243
>Sorry, everyone on the base will know where you are. WHOOPS.
It's a big distinction because it means you don't get swarmed, and that >>341213060 holds true, At worst, it slightly fucks with your immersion, but it doesn't at all kill the game.
>>341203626
>/v/ loves MGSV
are you browsing same /v/ as the rest of us?
>>341214243
Guy I just want you to know I've played MGSV for 300 hours and I agree with you on most points
>>341212697
>I know the character of a person I have never met in my life
Stop posting, you idiotic child.
>>341214243
when did MGS2 apologists start popping up on this board? you faggots used to not be allowed to post
>MGS2
>fantastic
fuck off, PW is better than that piece of shit and PW is a piece of shit. V is miles ahead of 2
>>341213140
You realize metal gear solid one also had all the guards knowing your position as soon as you were spotted. But you probably think that's fine because muh muh muh first game. Fuck off you austic retarded faggot. MGSV was a fine game and though the ending was sorta shitty it was a needed end to the series.
>>341201642
hes literally, LITERALLY the only guy making anything close to original content in the industry
>>341214541
yeah, /v/ is the only website on the fucking internet that has even the least bit of resentment for mgsvsort of like skyrim
>>341201642
MGSV was good. Most of Kojima's games are good.
I want to wait and see what this game is like, I have the inclination that it will also be good, but will reserve judgement until I see gameplay.
>>341214243
I don't like the open-world meme either, and I believe it's partially to blame for the unfinished product that we got, but I'm certainly not enough of an exaggerative retard to think that it renders the game terrible.
>>341214631
He plasters his name on every fucking chapter.
He has a massive fucking ego. That's undisputed fact.
Every game: A Hideo Kojima Game
Honestly, i dont know what the fuck happened during MGSV development. But Kojima is a really interesting personality when it comes to the gamedevs scene, and mgs 2 is one of my favorite games ever.
I fucking loved the Terrence Malick vibes on Death Stranding's teaser and i'm fucking hyped, judge me faggots.
And fuck MGSV, Kojima clearly didnt have the proper tools to reach his ambitions, plus, i had fun on some segments of the game.
suck my dick /v/.
Because it's the first new IP Kojima has done in 20 years
>>341214708
How did it even end the series? The twisty end only answered some minor question about MG1&2 that no one really asked
as long as we all agree MGS3 was the black sheep of the franchise and has none of the things that make MGS unique and appealing
>>341206831
So he effectively killed the LoS games too?
How is that a bad thing? It's not like we were going to get good Castlevanias from them.
>>341214354
You're right. No wonder videogames are so fucking ass the past couple of years. People like those who frequent /v/ claim to be "patricians" with taste, but still gargle up the latest triple A open world bullshit and also don't play Fighting Games.
>>341214417
That's such a fucking argument of semantics, of course not everyone in the whole open world will know where you are, the only thing that matters at the time is the base. Sure, they can call the other bases and alert them, but it's not like they send over helicopters and shit.
>>341214541
If you've been browsing this thread, it seems like they do. The retards.
>>341214591
Thank fucking god. I've played it 227 because I wanted to 100% it. I kept playing the bad game because I thought there was something missing, or something more to find. There wasn't. It was literally a checklist in a big open world that didn't mean anything.
Want to know something really depressing? There are multiple fields in middle of the Africa and Afghanistan maps, that if you left Snake standing there, left the game on over night, then a nuclear apocalypse came and wiped everyone off the face of the earth, but somehow your PC was still running the game and still had power, and the game sat there for a thousand years, still running, Snake would never be found by any of the games lifeless NPCs. He would just stand there forever in that boring open world where nothing happens.
Aliens would find the computer still running and be like, "Wow, this game is shitty."
>>341214791
You're wrong about MGSV being good. You're right about most of his other games being good.
>>341202928
>It was far more than Konami has ever spent on a single game
And that is why they are dying.
>>341208987
BA-DUM!YAMAZAKI OUTTO
>>341215050
>That's such a fucking argument of semantics, of course not everyone in the whole open world will know where you are, the only thing that matters at the time is the base. Sure, they can call the other bases and alert them, but it's not like they send over helicopters and shit.
It's not an argument of semantics, I'm saying that your point is LITERALLY INCONSEQUENTIAL in-game because you can still evade, or indeed fight, regardless of whether or not the whole base has been alerted.
>>341214963
Because it was literally the end. It needed to be finished off. I admitted the ending was shit but I'm pretty sure any ending wouldv'e been deemed shit by the MGS community
>>341215083
MGSV was a good game, and thats just a fact. This isnt even a difference of opinion, you might not like MGSV, but you cannot say its a bad game.
Its gameplay, amount of content, customization, smooth controls, absolutely fantastic engine. Its a really well made game and had a massive amount of work put into it.
Its not perfect by a long shot, but its not shit either. Games can exist on a scale you know, its not "OMG 10/10 GOAT" and "OMG MEGA SHIT"
>>341202767
You've no sources saying Fallout 4 cost over 100 million to make you filthy liar. Witcher cost around 45 million in development and 35 million in advertisement. MGSV cost 80 in development alone.
>>341211260
>Anime avatar
>Thinks his opinion matters
>>341203626
> not wanting a rocket punch
Fag
>>341214963
It didn't answer any big questions because there weren't any to answer. It behaved like an inconsequential self-contained story whose only ties to the mainline series was the fact that Venom's existence cemented Big Boss as actually being kind of an awful person for making some poor cunt who took a chunk of bone to the head for him and got stripped of every trace of his identity run around pretending to be the real deal to take the heat off him.
The story was fine if you look at it as such instead of expecting MGS4 levels of incestuous plot contrivance.
>>341214243
>Sorry, everyone on the base will know where you are. WHOOPS.
Being someone who doesn't know anything about game design, you have no idea how easy the game would become if your dumb nitpick were taken into consideration. The game is supposed to be played open to your interpretation. You can strategize, improvise or play fucking better, because the fact that your complaint is based on how badly you're playing it, makes your opinions garbage, cancerous and not worth the time the time of any self respecting fan of video games.
>>341215273
MGS4 was the end, almost every character fucking died and everyone else fucked off and stopped doing stupid shit. MGSV was just unnecessary story-wise
>>341215251
Lemme explain it simply here.
>MGS2, get spotted
>You have 7 seconds to shoot the guy he calls on the radio and everyone is alerted. This makes sense because he uses his radio to alert everyone.
>MGSV, get spotted
>You have 7 seconds of slow motion reflex time to shoot the guy before everyone is alerted.
But, if you turn reflex mode off,
>MGSV, get spotted
>You have 1 second of normal time to shoot the guy before everyone is telepathically alerted for no reason.
Sure, the guy shouts CONTACT, but is that seriously going to alert EVERYONE on the base to instantly turn to where you're standing and shoot you?
>>341211260
>>The retarded story
Oh no, what a shocker for my Metal Gear game.
>>341201642
I'm excited for the game, but I'd never actually consider buying the thing until I know that it's actually a finished game this time.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
>>341215609
I've addressed the fact that it doesn't really make sense and might fuck with your immersion or whatever, you're dodging the point about it being mechanically inconsequential.
>>341215609
hahahaha fucking nerd
>>341215524
>You have no idea how easy the game would become if your dumb nitpick were taken into consideration.
Oh, you mean like how it was taken into consideration 10+ years before in METAL GEAR SOLID 2?
Metal Gear Solid 2 wasn't fucking easy, and Metal Gear Solid V wasn't made significantly harder by having people instantly know where you are.
Losing is part of a game sometimes, you dipshit. I played 200+ hours of the game. I am not "salty" because I am "bad" at it. Unless you can say you picked up Metal Gear Solid V and were so good at it, you were never spotted and thus have no idea how the system works, you can't talk either.
>>341214921
Based anon tells it like it is.
>Malick
Double based. I got those vibes as well.
We should smoke weed sometime.
>>341215609
>one way or another, have the same amount of time to deal with an alert unless you actively choose to disable the feature
whoa i'm as mad as hell
>>341215853
But isn't mechanically inconsequential. This problem was dealt with 10+ years earlier in Metal Gear Solid 2, yet for some reason it was so god damn hard for them to have a system that was interesting and made sense in Metal Gear Solid V like it did in 2.
>>341215501
I posted after you here>>341215597
You agree with me friend
>>341201894
Pretty sure he tried the "get the studio pregnant" strategy because he's so obsessed with Hollywood and thought game studios are like movie studios and can afford finishing a product after it's gone way over budget.
If that's the case he is definitely at fault.
You can tell whose a LP watching faggot by them thinking MGSVs story is what makes it bad
>>341215994
The problem is that the entire game is balanced around reflex mode, so if you turn it off, you're playing the game in an unbalanced fashion that doesn't make any sense. Sure, it makes the game very hard, but it is disappointing that Kojima decided that a cool slow down effect was more important than a game that made sense.
>>341214921
>>341215965
/film/ here
You don't understand Malick.
>>341215995
But it is, because you can still evade.
>>341216124
Been addressing why it is bad gameplay wise this entire thread, buddy.
>>341215896
Your nitpick is based on getting caught which you say is apart of the learning process.
Explain again why it's terrible because you're being a situational liar.
>>341215965
>Assuming everyone smokes weed just because you do
Why are stoners so facetiously childish I just don't get it
>>341203626
/v/ doesn't love weeb shit? Do you remember the site you're on anon?
>>341216269
then you need not be offended
>>341216196
Yes, you can still run away and hide from all of the enemies that know where you are, but in Metal Gear Solid V, they instantly know where you are without having a radio call come in.
It doesn't make sense that they all know where you are telepathically because one guy spotted you.
>>341201642
>Fiasco
Daily reminder that kojima is god and did nothing wrong.
MGS5 is GOTY. Who cares about this liquid arc, liquid a shit.
A SHIT
I'm likely more mature than you and there's literally nothing wrong with being childish sometimes.
>>341216001
solidarity brother
Venom was a good boy who didn't do nothing wrong. I genuinely like his addition to the MGS universe and feel the overall tone of the saga benefits from his existence.hasty disclaimer: this is in no way an attempt to excuse MGSV's legitimate flaws, of which there are several, but I don't believe the game was completely without merit
>>341201642
Quiet is one of the worst written characters in video game history, I don't know how people would trust him to write a good character knowing he created THAT.
>>341216182
I'm sorry, i was a bit shallow in my statement.
I'm just saying i get Malick vibes due to the interpretative simbolism the teaser provides.
But you're a kino loving patrician, have it your way.
>>341213339
everybody defends it goyim
it's a livingI fucking hate it so much I hope it's a ruse. It's unreal bad.
>>341216408
So you're mad because it hurt your immersion, not because it "completely breaks the entire game" like you said before.
Who should voice reedus's character? Hayter or sutherland?
>>341216591
I bet, at the root of your hatred, is the fact that you didn't get to play as the real Big Boss.
>>341216272
Said it about three times now. Metal Gear Solid 2 had a better and more immersive system for how alerts started.
I am going to go ahead and shift the focus away from Reflex mode and general alerts being the problem and focus on something else.
The games scoring system is based around time and not any sort of skill.
And, the open world is fucking shitty and doesn't add much interesting to the game.
In the second mission where you have to go save Kaz, Ocelot tells you you have three days to do it.
But what the fuck would take three days? It's not like there is anything interesting to explore or find in the open world that would take up three in game days. If you have played the mission before you can run and rescue Miller in minutes.
UNLIMITED DETAIL
MGSV's fault was because of the Metal Gear title.
We are excited because it isn't about Metal Gear anymore so he has all the freedom and doesn't have to make dumb writing choices anymore.
Is that so hard to understand?
>>341216637
Troy baker
>>341215965
We should. I'm also into weed.
>>341216603
It breaks the game because the game is balanced around using Reflex mode. BUT, reflex mode is so fucking overpowered (because the game was balanced around it) that the game has no difficulty. But turning it off makes the game TOO difficult.
Should have just stuck with MGS2's system.
Kojima is perfect, just perfect
I'm amazed a genius of his caliber lives and makes games for us the unwashed, ignorant masses
It has an inkling, the slightest fucking iota of creativity as opposed to all the other perfunctory fucking sewerschlock which blasted from this event's gaping goatse anal entrance, i didnt even like the death stranding teaser i thought it was god awful but it was measurably better than any single other thing shown
>>341216846
>But turning it off makes the game TOO difficult
That's a fucking lie and I'm not even good at games.
>everyone presents a teaser or a trailer that's pretty straightforward
>he makes one with a lot of cryptic shit
>why are people talking about the interesting one more???
It's not like people are pretending the game will be good.
>>341215050
>I kept playing the bad game because I thought there was something missing, or something more to find. There wasn't.I'm still playing it for disarmamentFuck me it's terrible
>>341216717
Sorry what? Meaning he didn't have the freedom before to write such absolute drivel after MGS2?
lol
>>341201642
Friendly reminder that the MG series is a Japanese version of Spaceballs, seen through the eyes of an idiot savant; and should be seen as such.
Just EVA my trailer up lads
>>341216846
>turning it off makes the game too difficult
Nigger, literally what
If you approach levels cautiously, methodically and above all else thoroughly, disabling reflex is actually a far better way to play and isn't a significant handicap in any way whatsoever.
>>341216182
Oh please bless us with your forced subjective overanalytical wisdom "patrician".
If baitpost, good job, because poser fags like you get me mad as fuck.
Games need more autism behind them desu. You can clearly see that games that had autistic people working on them are some of the best ones, while games made by corporate suits and normies are trash. I guess that aspies are the only ones that care enough about making glorified children toys, but also the only ones that will push the medium forward. So godspeed to Kojamber.
>>341216717
Any resemblance to metal gear solid was literally the only thing keeping mgsv from being Farcry 5 though
>>341213483
>>it was MEANT to be shit
That clearly isn't what he meant
he meant that the development of MGSV would be a pain for the Konami to publish the game
>implying it was shit
>>341216953
nah its true, its shit without d dog or quiet buddy marking all your nearby shit. the game is real shit and has a lot of questionable design choices.
>>341216590
Malick isn't really a symbolism guy, though.
>people unironically enjoy Kojima games
words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words wordsam I a genius now too? Maybe I need add a few plot twists
>>341202767
By your logic Bethesda is more than twice as indie as CDPR.
>>341216998
Bud you wil NEVER get it on PC. It's so full of cheaters with 4 nukes its rediculous.
>>341217256
>nah its true
Nah, it fucking isn't.
>>341215646
While an MGS game having a retarded story or retarded characters is not surprising, the previous titles at least managed to be entertaining while being retarded. MGSV takes itself way too seriously, so everything just ends up being boring.
>>341217391
Because Tree Of Life is a linear movie with an obvious plot and not open to interpretations at all.
>>341216683
Nigger.
You know how in most of the Solid games, you follow through with the wack because of something called "suspension of disbelief"?
You know how hard that shit bites in Guns of the Nanomachines?
Imagine me playing from Where do the Bees sleep up until the first missions of Chapter 2. I was HOPING something good would come, but in reality all you're doing is Kaz's laundry list.
It's like there was an actual game here where what you did MATTERED but it left a long time ago and you're literally playing with its dead skin.
Don't get me started on the gameplay. The real reason I wanted to play this mediocre piece of shit in spite of
>REGENERATING HEALTH
>WALLHACKS
>SLOW MOTION MODE
>CQC FOR RETARDS
The completely lifeless motherbase and the lack of importance in all you do was because I was hoping at one point, shit would get down.
>>341217512
no it is true. kojima is still designing for a top down game where you can see all around you
>>341217509
4 nukes?
Try 20. I'm not joking.Konami really needs to fix that
If they ever make nukes online development only, it's be done in a couple of weeks, famalam.
>>341201642
Tell this to Sony.
>>341217731
You can see well enough to make it through the levels.
>>341217637
It doesn't have an obvious plot but it's a plot none the less. There are a lot of linear interpretation in ToL but there's not a lot of symbolism.
>bitching about a guard yelling CONTACT alerting an entire base being unrealistic and immersion breaking
Alright let me break this down for you faggots
Realistically speaking,
>guard spots intruder
>calls out and opens fire
>nearby guards hear the call and come running
>distant guards hear gunfire and come too
Wow immersion broken right
MGS2 has guards call in alerts via radio in order to call for reinforcements from outside the game's small, cell-like environments. The second you were spotted and an alert started, any guard in the room would converge on your position regardless of whether or not the alert was called in to HQ. In MGSV, guards still call in alerts via radio in the same way in order to call for reinforcements, who are diverted from other nearby bases. MGSV's alert system basically operates the exact same way as MGS2's, just on a much wider scale.
>>341217852
only if you mark people so you can see through walls
>>341205782
>excellent gameplay
>MGSV
Pick one
i'm just going to let the kojima fanboys have their fun
it's endearing, really
>>341217926
Marking people isn't any worse than any of the fucking radars we've had in the past. The Soliton especially was far more powerful.
>Literally no gameplay footage
>too deep Norman Reedus footage makes everyone hyped somehow
It's going to a bland pretentious mediocre meatloaf that gets praised to no end and anyone who says otherwise "just didn't get the philosophy"
>>341217905
D-Dog barking in full army gear in front of the stupid npc Soviets was the immersion break.
>>341217870
Just because there's not a lot of symbolism doesnt mean there aren't symbolisms.
Whatever, i got Malick vibes due to the symbolism, but if it pleases i can switch to i dont know, david fucking lynch vibes or winding refn.
>People hating based Kojima
Wow, I can't believe this.
Get out of 4chan, I would kill you if I could but the law prevents it, so just get the fuck out of here and stay out.
>>341213339
IT WAS A GOOD GAME.
>>341218278
Tell'em like it is m8.
>>341218193
And I might attempt to argue against you if that was what I was talking about. I agree with you, but damn son pay attention.
>>341218278
Based Kojima?
The same fucking hack who made game about vocal cord parasites and having an arm take over the personality of another man
lol
>>341201894
No, it was the fans'.
>>341218168
>>Literally no gameplay footage
He LITERALLY reformed Kojima Productions six months ago. It's just a conceptual teaser, that's all. I'm not expecting you to go out and buy a PS4 because of that trailer.
>>341218402
For the first five hours
>>341211260
>>341211260
You're trying way too hard to sound smart with a very short sighted opinion. The game is flawed no doubt but a lot of that stuff is good or great, just executed sloppily or oddly considering the series pedigree.
He's not a retard, you'll never come close to producing anything like MGS and you have no foundation for actually knowing what you're talking about, other than acting like it not hitting your personal checklist means = shit.
>>341218248
Dude, you can symbolise and interpreter anything you want from something, I'm not trying to take that from you. I just don't think Malick is an intended symbolism kind of guy. Tarkovsky and Kubrick are more along those kind of lines.
>>341218624
Reminder that everyone crying that hard about mgsv only does so because they didn't get the ebin fanfiction they'd let themselves build up in their heads.
>>341218624
It's a bad game bruhlike really bad
Kojima is a fucking overhyped hack.
>>341211747
>its a v pretends its a games developer episode
>>341218882
niles?
>>341218862
It's like LOST all over again tbqh.
>>341218694
The scene of people walking on that beach in tree of life goddamnit.
>>341218862
Case in point: >>341211747
>>341208229
DSP was right all along.
>>341218573
Friend the game hasn't even begun after 5 hours. Most of the critics here hate the game because it wasn't cinematic enough, which, okay, but then try to say that that means it has bad gameplay ?
>the MGSV is bad meme
/v/ is filled with children with no taste, they can only argue in memes and say that it was bad because it was
They also think the best MGS is 3 like the mental toddlers they are.
>>341218995
I'm his phantom.Seriously, he only wrote all that shit because he's tired of people that come in and praise this game only saying "you hate it because it's not what you wanted :^)"
>>341219187
WOW DUDE
>>341219259
Obviously you are an underage who can't comprehend your asian god Kojima being criticized. Fuck off.
>>341219259
2 and 3 are both the peak of the series tb.h.
>>341208229
Reminder that he does this because he feels that he has to take responsibility for the product, both good and bad
Also he actually fulfilled those roles, why wouldn't he be credited for them
>>341219292
Its a great game though
I haven't. Avoiding it at all cost.
MGSV is a fucking masterpiece, you retards just haven't noticed yet. I'll keep waiting till people catch on that it was entirely finished in its current state.
>>341219424
Case in point, unsubstantial ad hom bullshit
You're the children here, talking shit about good games to imply superior taste, you're pathetic.
>>341208229
Requesting "want sommu? It's chelly"
Has none of you read the design docs for MGS2? fucking seriously?
It shows Kojima's competency for being a game director.
I could even pull up some few extracts, knowing you retards don't know how to read anything but shitposts.
>>341219582
Good luck
>>341209213
>spend all the dev time in dinners with your waifu
You would've done the same! You all would've!
>>341219696
No thanks I'm not into horse
>>341219582
It wasn't finished, we know for certain some elements were cut.
However, how much that was actually cut has been grossly exaggerated because people didn't like the ending.
>>341209213
>spends all the budget on jack bauer
>while hayter himself admits kiefer was most likely cheaper to hire than him
>>341208229
It's very rare for large-scale modern games to have as much of a single minded focus as his. Everything memorable about the series was a product of his mind and Shinkawa's paintbrush, and to a lesser extent Fukushima's ability to funnel Kojima's plot into a vaguely coherent story.
>>341219683
Do it because I'm interested.
>>341219589
Could you tip your fedora even more you fucking hiveminded faggot
>>341219683
im interested
dont give me that female translator shit when her shit got scrapped and we got the best game of all time
>>341201642
Reminder that he was cucked hard by Konami and will never recover from it. And neither will MGS as series lel
>>341219409
*SNORT*
>>341219852
No.
>SPENDS ALL THAT MONEY ON BAUER
>CUTS 80% OF HIS LINES
>BUT AKIO OTSUKA GETS TO KEEP HIS BECAUSE HE'S SUCH A COOL GUY
>>341219926
>he says, while baselessly hating on MGSV on the only community where it's a meme to hate on it
You can't make this shit up
>>341215646
It's amazing how MGS suddenly only had a retarded story with the post-MGS3 titles. Before that people would go on and on how it was actually deep and moving. Shit, the MGS2 faggots still do that.
>>341211809
>>341214045
The vocal parasites, medic "twist", lack of boss fights, and empty open world are all in anon's head?
Fuck, what MGSV did you play that did not have that horrible shit (or at least did not have Kojima's name plastered onto every little bit of it)? We all deserve to play it.
>>341219652
Kojima is a fucking asshole.
I worked at KojimaPro for little over a year, but decided to quit after about a month of constant harassment from him. He was always sleeping during meetings, or playing Monster Hunter under the table with Yoji even though everyone could tell. One day I couldn't stand it anymore, he was sitting next to me chewing gum and every time I tried to talk he would blow a bubble and pop it to interrupt me. After the fifth time I grabbed him by the shoulder, the rest of the staff gave me worried looks of disapproval. he looked me straight in the eyes, chewing his gum extremely loudly. He reached for the gum pack in his pocket and presented it to me, then he said in broken English:
"Want somu? It's chelly."
I lost my temper and knocked it out of his hand, Kojima gave me this look like he couldn't believe what I was doing. After that he was quiet for the rest of the meeting, victory was mine, or so I thought.
The next day I sat down by my desk, only to find a piece of chewed gum stick to my ass when I sat down on the chair. I consulted Kojima about it, but he acted dumb and pretended to have no idea what I was talking about. But it didn't stop there, every day he would put a piece of chewed gum somewhere. Under the mouse, in my shoes, between my papers, he even replaced the bento my wife had made for me with nothing but different flavors of chewed gum.
Fuck Kojima.
>>341220092
Yes tho
Again hayter himself said as much
>>341219789
The cut part was probably intentional, it looked horrible and we didn't need an extra scene with the shitty kids anymore.
>>341219789
>this is how the series ends
kek it was all a fucking ruse
>>341219652
Skullface is a fucking asshole.
I worked at XOF for little over a year, but decided to quit after about a month of constant harassment from him. HE was always sleeping during meetings, orstretching his arms out under the table with Sahelanthropus even though everyone could tell. One day I couldn't stand it anymore, HE was sitting next to me and hadinfected himself with parasites and everytime I tried to talk in Hungarian HE would interrupt me. After the fifth time I grabbed him by the shoulder, the rest ofthe crew gave me worried looks of disapproval. HE looked me straight in the eyes, exclaiming "WHO?" extremely loudly. HE reached for the English strain in his pocketand presented it to me, then HE said in English:
"Want some? It's just for you."
I lost my temper and knocked it out of his hand, Skullface gave me this look like HE couldn't believe what I was doing. After that HE was quiet for the rest of themeeting, victory was mine, or so I thought. The next day I finished my shift, only to find these gross lumps on my chest when I took off my bullet-proof vest. I consulted Skullface about it, but HE acted dumband pretended to have no idea what I was talking about. But it didn't stop there, every day HE would put a strain somewhere. Under Sahelanthropus, in my boots,between my grenades, HE even replaced the balaclava my wife had made for me with nothing but an eye mask.
Fuck Skullface.
>>341220419
Metal Gear has always been focused on theme and the nature of video games themselves rather than some autistic focus on a fictional timeline. If you haven't realized this yet, you haven't been paying attention
>>341220159
Was this before or after you left Bethesda because Todd didn't like your dream idea?
>>341220451
>not "Want some? It knows English."
8/10, almost perfect
>>341219865
>>341219969
Alright. Here's one of the first things he says.
>However, we will not blatantly ignore the core players we acquired with MGS1 just to try to increase our
player base and sales.
See, he doesn't focus on sales or money. He cares about his fans. That's one plus point. After this paragraph, he then proceeds to show the pros and cons on game mechanics from different genres such as RPGs, 3D action games and their sequels.
>As MGS2 is a sequel, it must explain the game’s unique element (the tension of stealth), as well as how it has been upgraded as a sequel, all within the introductory section of the game, meaning the first several minutes. A game’s fun factor almost always depends on its introductory section. It is not easy satisfying both new and existing players during this important opening section. However, by differentiating between players at the start of the game, we will be able to provide an experience tailor-made for each group.
For all the "KOJIMA IS A MOVIE FAG!"
>Whatever the case, we will use the machine’s (PS2) advanced capabilities to expand the game’s mechanics. We will use the PlayStation 2’s capabilities to strengthen Metal Gear as a game. Instead of building up its visuals, we will build up its world.
>We will not pursue cinematic visuals! We will pursue a realistic world! We will use the hardware’s capabilities to create a realistic reality!
He then proceeds to talk about enemy A.I., bodies that do not disappear, number of enemies and many more. Story is the least priority for him.
The thing is: This is a design document. It's his fucking job, he'll show this to his employees. It's not some marketing shit, so all the "buzzwords" here actually MEAN something.
https://z8jraa-dm2305.files.1drv.com/y3m6Vyxt0WaGn-MW2DArDmzeC1FCaMvrvivjeVymGoIrLIaMUjOiCjeXLBKYEbQuBvShMul6ChPsZ7ucTDtK24RAtneQN9X1IT_CplBpzmeH8VlK3Fd5C7wNkXryjKHobRXUmHpXUTddpd_-ZYsQ6ct7g/metal_gear_solid_2_grand_game_plan.pdf?psid=1
>>341220107
It's also meme to defend it.
All these chucklefucks defending MGSV are here to pin it on Big Medic because superbunnyhomo years ago made a stupid autistic review on MGS2 and then /v/ started parroting it as the most genius shit ever.
>>341220119
Nah that shit was great. There were boss fights also
>>341201894
>spent a lot of money on Kiefer
>spent alot of money on courting his slutty secretary/actress Jew Stein
>had to rush final act of the game since he had no more mons
>konami's fault
>>341220563
I think he thought they were cool spy games since 3 was so inviting with its Bond shenanigans most people missed the themes being hammered on repeatedly and by then the fanbase was fucked
>>341219435
>he feels that he has to take responsibility for the product, both good and bad
Reminder that you actually believe this.
>Also he actually fulfilled those roles, why wouldn't he be credited for them
People credit themselves just fine but they put the credits, surprisingly, in the fucking credits section at the end of the game where they belong. There they are listed as many times as necessary but not in front of every mission, multiple times on every promotional piece for no reason, the cover art, and they most certainly don't have the staff make 3D models of themselves so they can be put into the game.
>>341220297
no as in "that's not all"
I know how based hayter is
Sutherland could never fucking give up part of his salary to bring back the voice gang on a shitty remake of anything ever.
>>341220563
reminder kojima himself stated extremely early on in development that they weren't going to be autistically faithful to the timeline, we were warned well in advance
>>341220730
Wasn't Hayter getting paid literally millions by MGS4?
>>341220652
Meme'd if you do meme'd if you dont
>>341220652
I pin it on the tight as fuck gameplay, and I found MGS2 genius when I replayed it at age 20, when the HD collection came out, years before SBH's video, the JunkerHQ article was the best known source of that same interpretation back then.
>>341220806
Time for bed David,
>>341206831
lol. You know videogames are one of konami's smallest branches? They're probably gonna make more money on that mgs3 remake pachinko alone, than the entirety of their videogame budget from the past decade. They're doing just fine.
>>341220652
>it's a meme to hate mgsv
>it's also a meme to praise mgsv
Shit, can I hold an opinion on mgsv that isn't a meme?
>>341221173
We're all memes here
>>341221162
This.
Y'all gotta remember Konami has a division that sells fucking bottled water. They have investment in so many more profitable ventures than video games that they could burn the entire electronic entertainment department to ashes and it wouldn't put a dent in their annual earnings.
I'm just curious to see what he'll do now
Instead of Konami trying to make as swift of an exit from vidya as possible, he has as much money as Sony (and his studio itself) are willing to throw into his bullshit.
