How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from a male or female Link?
If it does, is this a good thing?
Why do people think that you will be able to choose?
Pretty likely. I think it's good. I like playing as females, man.
Not likely.
No. Link is a guy. Mario is a guy.
Unlikely but I would welcome the option. People who are literally angry over having more options in a game are cute.
>>341048596
Link is pretty androgynous so you could just consider the character a male or female depending on your preference.
I think they should just make zelda a guy instead and you get to fuck him at the end of the game
0%
I just want that girly boy link from the first trailer.
Unlikely, and it would definitely be a bad thing. Link is the one of the few iconic constants in series that visually reinvents itself with each new entry.
To change such an iconic character into a customizable player avatar with no set idenity or personality for the sake of pandering would be shitty, fuck the lore, and cheapen the brand all in one foul swoop.
>>341048946
Mario is the same person in every game.
Link is almost always a different person in every game. The only games that it has the same Link is direct sequels
fuck that, when do you get to play as ganon for the whole game?
>>341048596
How about a game where link can travel to two different universes and in one of them he changes into a girl.
Will that please you?
>>341048596
Anyone else not even gonna bother with the game if they involve a gimmick? The DS games, the Wii games...all fucking gimmick trash that have been unable to fucking do anything that matters to the series other than DEGENERATE IT into a extension OF the gimmick.
>>341048937
You're a sad little man, bro. They aren't FEMALES, they are fucking pixels on the screen, you are living out some fantasy of wanting to be a pretty princess. Just go buy a dress and get pegged, you'll feel better.
>>341048596
I'd give it, maybe 20%
Link has clearly been male in all of the media shown so far. People are just trying to apply stupid logic to try and convince themselves it will happen (men can't have long hair?)
I think the only thing pointing to it being possible is how many people want it, and how more sensitive Nintendo has become to these sort of topics (e.g. gay marriage).
I want to say unlikely, but Aonuma listens to bad ideas from fans occasionaly so I can see it happening. It would also be a way to 'surpirse ' people without doing anything to improve the gameplay and he's quite fond of that too.
>>341048839
Tumblrtards and waifufags getting hyped by different artwork of the same character
How many threads a day do we need about this? God damn.
>>341051185until you like it
>>341048596
None.
He already looks like a total cock sucking twink faggot in all the art Neo-LGBTendo has released so far.
>>341051185
/v/ loves drama I guess.... lol
>>341051374
buzzwords: the post
>>341048596
I wouldn't give a shit if they gave you the option. Hell I wouldn't care if they made Link female by default.
What would get my goat though is the swarms of people going "EAT SHIT MANBABIES ZELDA IS OUR FEMINIST GAME NOW NINTENDO IS ON OUR SIDE UR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY"
>>341048596
i'd be fine with it if Zelda and Ganondorf were also switched
>>341051654
say it isn't true. he totally looks like a fluid-gendered fag.
>>341051958
>say it isn't true
Ok. It's not true
>>341050708
maybe you should be the one to fuck me, sexy man
>>341051654
>>341051958 again.
Just look how "he" is angling "his" legs here for fuck's sake >>341048596. pussies jump like that.
>>341048596
>How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from a male or female Link?
If this happens, I want a Metroid game where you can choose to make Samus a man.
>>341052582
that's retarded. samus doesnt even look like a man
>>341052834
>that's retarded.
Exactly. Just like needlessly gender-swapping Link is.
>>341053069
it's fine in link's case
>>341053972
Then it's fine in Samus' case.
>>341051839
This.
It isn't even what they say that bothers me anymore, it's how fucking predictable they've become.
>>341048937
Man they have you shills start early don't they. Do they pay you overtime since they haven't even revealed it yet?
>>341050271
That's not what Skyward Sword said.
>>341048596
Depends on how they do it.
Wouldn't work in other Zeldas, largely because the other characters and how they relate. It's always girls in charge telling him where to go, and it's worked well.
>>341054131
no it isnt. never swap a woman to a man. men arent so appealing
>>341054443
This. Link is canonically one person reincarnated every hundred years or so, with exception of the Wind Waker Link.
>>341054846
Back to tumblr with you.
>>341052347
That's fan art, you dumb fuck
>>341054131
You know how people on /v/ always say "vote with your wallet?" I'll bet you anything it would actually happen if Metroid were a man. Sex sells, but not dudes.
>>341054443
even if some of them are re-incarnations or relatives in some way, Wind Waker already set the precedent for that not always being the case.
>>341055004
I'm just saying it to be an asshole and show how absurd the concept is. i don't ACTUALLY want a male Samus, that would be stupid.
>>341054263
maybe you're the shill. always goes in the direction that would be a real twist in the movie
>>341052834
The whole point was that Samus didn't look like a woman because of the suit. They could reveal a male Samus in the exact same way and it really wouldn't change anything at all, but people would still throw a huge fit over it.
>>341050561
That sounds interesting but it would let the genie out of the bottle and there would be no stopping things after that. Give them an inch and they want a mile.
>>341054931
you're the one who should go back to tumblr. mras are still sjws, you know
>>341055468
see>>341055242
I hate MRA's just as much as feminists.
>>341055242
I just don't think it's absurd. People have been joking about what if Zelda was a girl for years. Not one person ever wondered what if Metroid were a guy. As I said, sex sells.
>>341055302
>samus in a game revealed to be a man, maybe posing as samus or something neat like that.
that actually sounds cool as fuck.
>>341055302
we all know how samus looks now. she's a hot woman. you really want her to be a man now? shit. you must be a straight woman or a gay man
>>341048596
Calling it now, changing between a guy and a girl is going to be a core game mechanic, whether that means switching genders or switching characters.
>>341049786
This fampie. Ever since Elder Scrolls/Bioware got big with normies, every game needs to have a customizable blank slates or else faggots can't self insert.
Like it or not, Link is an iconic character/character design that shouldn't be changed without a damned good reason. It's not broken, so don't fix it. There are a shit ton of other, more pressing issues with the Zelda formula that are far more important to address than the face of the series that is still popular enough and sells games to this day.
>>341055614
okay, so maybe we both should go to tumblr and team up. whaddya say, pal?
>>341055648
I don't care about the jokes, if it's done it'll just be a shallow attempt to pander to whiny Liberals forcing identity politics into video games
>>341049786
>Link
>identity
>personality
He's got slightly less characterization than Gordon Freeman.
I don't want it. There is no reason that Link couldn't be a girl, and it wouldn't alter the gameplay but I just don't want it.
>>341055242
yeah, man. enough ugly dudes are in games already. we could definitely use more hot women, even if it means changing link.
>>341048596
Who cares? At least it fits within Zelda's reincarnation lore as opposed to just changing an established gendered character for the sake of it like say Mario to female or Samus to male.
>>341055395
Who's 'they?'
>>341056063
Man you are so blinded by ideology that you can't see what's going on. This isn't being done to pander to women or anyone who thinks gender equality means having male/female palette swaps for protagonists. It's being done to pander to horn dogs.
>>341056408
Since WW Link has started to get a lot of facial expressions and character in terms of how he reacts to things.
>>341052582
Thats not really an equal comparison as Metroid is a singular Samus Aran while Zelda is the story of many different Heroes throughout Hyrules history. A female Zelda protagonist is conceivable especially if they decide the game is post wind waker and Ganon is perma dead/Demise's curse is lifted. In which case you could play as any race taking up the mantle of hero as well.
Afterall WW Link wasn't a blood related hero but was still chosen because he had the qualities needed to hold the title.
>>341056720
Use your brain m8. "They" are obviouslythem.
>>341054263
spotted the shill
>>341056408
That's true though, and has been since OoT. Link and his history are more often than not important to the plot/lore, he has his one goals, aspirations, and motivations for adventuring, and despite what faggots say a personality. (Especially post Wind Waker games, when he really started to get more expressive.)
These arn't the NES days anymore, and the franchise has evolved. Link is a character at this point.
>>341056791
So the idiots on the Left aren't constantly bitching about this shit?
>>341056932
Only two Links are blood related, TP Link to the Hero of Time and ST Link to the Hero of Winds.
Also ST is after WW, we generally know the races and what's going on with New Hyrule.
>>341055648
and men can be sexy, too. just look at guts, snake, raiden, adam jensen, big boss, ryu hayabusa, hayate, drake, spider-man, franklin, captain america, ect
Zero chances, Link is, and will always be a dude. Having a female link would be as repulsive as having a male Zelda. I would not be against having a female protagonist, but that protagonist will not have the triforce of courage, and therefore, not be Link, and if the protagonist isn't Link, then it would not be a Zelda game, but a spin off like the Tingle game.
>>341054931
Reincarnation does not imply same gender. Heck, it doesn't even imply same species. What is there to stop Link from being reincarnated as a dog, or a goron, or an ant?
Where does it say Link can't be an ant?
When are we getting a Zelda game where Link is an ant?
Do you know how many ants there are?
It should have happened by now!
>>341057285
I wish I understood half those words.
>>341057313
I still would love the chance to run a Goron at some point.
>>341056509
I definitely want it and millions of other women lovers.
>>341057382
I don't think you understand how reincarnation works. Hell Link could be a cow for God's sake.
>>341057285
Sure, and everyone's interests just happen to be aligned in this case. Who loses is Zelda is a girl? Do you? I guess you do if your idea of losing is when people you don't like to ever get anything they want, but otherwise you don't.
>>341057458
Because Link is/was a young, and therefore is reborn again as a young boy that resembles the original hero.
Just like Zelda is a young girl who resembles the original Zelda, etc. etc.
Did you not even Wind Wanker?
>>341057360
Most traditional video game players are still boys and young men. The right sex sells even better.
>>341057458
Because each Link is the same character reborn again to stop evil you idiot.
The same princess, the same link, and the same evil reborn again and again and again in an endless cycle because of Demise's curse.
>>341058047
But Wind Waker Link wasn't a reincarnation.
>>341058007
Yes, because if they "get what they want" they'll never be satisfied. Next they'll want a trans link, then a trans racial Link, then a non binary gender fluid Link, etc. The fact that Nintendo is even considering bowing to these people shows they don't understand that this is a crowd that will NEVER be pleased.
>>341057458
>>>341054931
>Reincarnation does not imply same gender. Heck, it doesn't even imply same species.
This isn't Hinduism, it's Zelda. Ever notice how Link always looks the same (femine-ish face, long yellow hair, a dude)? That's how the reincarnation works.
>>341058851
I agree.
>I don't want female Link
>>341058812
>the fact that Nintendo is even considering bowing to these people
Except they're not doing that. Do you really think grorious Nipponese sararymen even know what Tumblr is?
>>341058851
What about an ant with a femine-ish face, long yellow hair, and a dude?
>>341059560
>I want female Link.
>>341058851
Link has had a masculine face, brown or pink hair before too.
>>341059781
After the Fire Emblem translation debacle, yes I do.
>>341058259
I bet many of them are gay a f or you know, the men i named can make it a case of "if it's with you, then it's okay."
>>341058812
There's already obligatory traps in video games. That Rubicon was crossed years ago. I don't even know what the hell a trans racial is. Is that like Michael Jackson? Anyway, I don't think this is a slippery slope, or at least it's not very slippery. Women have been arguing for female protagonists that pass the Bechdel test since well before the term Bechdel test was coined. These trans-whatever terms don't even seem well defined enough for SJWs to agree on whether a character even meets their fluidity standard.
>>341048596
That sounds completely pointless and I would oppose it purely on the grounds that Zelda is the wrong genre of game to care about cosmetic options.
It made sense in Pokémon because the player character is just one of many trainers in that world who can battle other player characters. Even then, if you pick the female character, the male character still exists as your rival, so they're not the same person.
Link is the chosen one and a man. If it just so happens that the hero reincarnated in a female body this time, he would still be a man by SJW logic.
This option would be as bizarre as the next Tomb Raider game giving the option to play as Larry Croft.
>>341054443
So you guys like skyward sword when it is convenient I see,
>>341058851
Not every Link had yellow hair
>>341060749
I've always liked SS.
>>341059928
>I want a female Link
more like
>>341059928
>tfw she complains you used low calorie bread and too many vegetables in the sandwich.
>>341060749
You don't have to like Skyward Sword to point out the lore it established.
>>341051070
Where is this artwork? I'd like to see for myself.
>>341060214
What, the fact that they removed the romantic petting minigame? You think the slacktivist Left was the one pulling the strings on that one? The fact that they had it in the first place should give you a hint as to how in touch Japan's taste is with American feminism.
50%
Neo Nintendo and Aonuma are brainless enough to do it, yet there's so much history and LoZ is such a money maker, I doubt the idea would get very far, thank God.
>>341061431
Look up "Zelda e3 Lanyards".
>>341061041Me too ;_;
It's bound to happen eventually in some form given the attention it's been getting and the handful of official comments on the subject, but I've never been entirely convinced that this is going to be the game that does it.
>>341062097
>It's bound to happen eventually in some form
It's called Linkle. It already happened and nobody cared because it's a shitty idea and Linkle is a shitty character.
>>341061672
And the "gay conversion scene", which can mostly be blamed on Allison Rapp, a vocal member of the "slacktivist Left". After the fallout surrounding that, you can't tell me Mainstream Nintendo isn't aware of these people.
>It would be like having the option to select a male Samus or male Lara Croft!
That is not the same fucking thing and you know it. Video games aren't severely lacking in male characters. Stop pretending you're pushing """equality""" and just admit you think girls are icky.
>>341062687
Linkle is a wholly different character in a spinoff Musou game where the entire point is to have an ensemble cast of playable characters.
>>341063423
How isn't it the same thing?
>>341061746
This? They don't look different at all. Both just look like link with and without a hood on.
>>341063825
Bingo. The salt will be fun, to say the least.
>>341063569
Video games have millions upon millions of male protagonists while ignoring females.
>>341063423
But they are severely lacking in attractive male characters. And numale betacucks like you want to ruin one of the only in existence to create yet another boring moeblob to fap to. Go fuck yourself.
>>341064072
That doesn't change the principle of the argument. Both Link and Samus are "blank slate characters", so what does it matter if we give the option to make Samus male?
>>341064072
There are already too many female video game characters. There's never been a shortage, even in the 90s.
>>341063423
Not every game needs to have gender options. This would be changing something up just for the sake of doing it. If anything I'd rather have a game with Zelda as the playable character than a female character. It's not like she is some lazy butch who just sits around.
>>341064539
Why the fuck do people keep saying Samus is a blank avatar? She's been talking since Super Metroid.
>>341063825
Full sized pictures of each image have also been posted. They're both confirmed to be male Link, just in different poses. The people spreading this rumor have serious brain problems.
>>341064826
Link talked briefly in Skyward Sword through dialog options, and had a defined personality in Wind Waker.
>>341064539
females are more easy on the eyes. even females agree
>>341063023
Even if they listen to these people while localizing, this isn't a concern of the dev teams. Nintendo has always had a pretty clear attitude of designing for Japanese audiences and then making localization decisions to match foreign markets.
>>341065138
Which is why games with male leads on the cover sell better.
>>341065138
Females are objectively disgusting. You just have terrible taste.
>>341055685
>Being hunted down by the real Samus part way through the game
>Teaming up to fight the last boss
Could be rad as hell, but it'll never happen.
>>341054931
>Link is canonically one person reincarnated every hundred years or so
Not really. His spirit is reincarnated, but each Link is a different person. And since Hylia is not the one that reincarnates him post-SS, there's really nothing stopping the spirit of the hero from being born in a female body.
That being said, I hope they keep Link male. I don't see any reason to change things up at this point.
>>341065637
you gay, man/straight woman
Will this game remind you what rupees are and where they are in the inventory screen every time you pick them up? Will it have unskipable mandatory dialogue with a partner who tells you exactly what to do twice in a row?
>>341065542
cant fault solid snake. he fiiiiiiine
>>341058554
>The same princess
Zelda isn't reincarnated. Each Zelda simply possesses the bloodline of Hylia.
>>341048937
Playing as a really strong, powerful woman always really turns me- interests me
>Why no male Samus
Why do people keep pretending this is the same thing? Samus is one person, changing her would necessarily require changing an existing character, but Link is different. Introducing a female Link doesn't change any of the existing Links because they're different characters.
Zelda is one of the few series this is possible for, since the lore could allow it and hasn't squashed the possibility yet.
Sounds like it would be about is consequential as changing your name in most Zelda games.
>>341071193
Skyward Sword squashed it by establishing that Link is "one character" reincarnated into the same form every hundred years, with exception of Wind Waker.
Again, why is this justified but the other isn't?
>>341071193
All of the Links are tied together by a common theme and design. Being male is part of that theme. It's essential to every Link. Changing one Link would change the concept of Link, which isn't acceptable because it would ruin an established character for no reason.
>>341071729
Because being reincarnated as the opposite gender has never happened in anything Japanese ever.
>>341072663
That's irrelevant, it breaks the character design convention of the Legend of Zelda.
Also, not an argument.
>>341058554
you are just Wrong dude. nobody's the same except ganondorf.
>>341071936
Just like all Links are blonde haired and left handed, right? They can't just change aspects of the character like that, can they?
>>341072958
the fuck are you talking about? Link has always been a twink. You could make him a tomboy just buy giving him a slight bust.
>>341071729
It didn't, though. Skyward Sword established that they needed a hero with an unbreakable spirit, but said nothing about the hero always having to be the same person.
>>341073127
The only real exception to that was the Skyward Sword Link, who was right handed for the motion controls to work. Besides that, almost all character art of Link fit what you described.
>>341073548
yes, it's the curse demise put on Link and Zelda, creating he endless cycle of rebirth of Link as he was.
>>341073742
Not every Link is blond
>>341073946
How is becoming a legacy hero a curse? Specially since Link usually makes it out okay.
>>341063825
the people who think this was a female link are fucking retarded and should kill themselves and any potential offspring. it's artwork that has already been released. it's not new.
>>341074228
Only exception I can think of its the art of the NES Link.
>>341074335
Ask nintendo, I didn't write that shit.
Why are you guys arguing over something that will be revealed tomorrow? Just wait and see that Link will be a boy like Aonuma stated last year.
>>341074720
It's fun. Don't you like having fun?
>>341074335
How would you like to have no control over your own body, instead being directed by some unknown force constantly?
>>341049786
>Link is the one of the few iconic constants in series that visually reinvents itself with each new entry
This. People go "but he's different" yes but he's essentially theLinkbetween all the games, he's a constant.
>>341054931
>WW babbies still think their precious WW Link is the exception
No, he's just as much of a Link as every other Link in the timeline. SS also confirmed this. Spirit of the Hero transcends timelines, pretty much.
>>341064539
samus is one individual. there is no point to make samus male, because samus is already female and is just one person. however, there are many, multiple links, with different personalities and features. people are just retarded and think all links are the same. with this in mind, a new link could be female just fine without anybody being gender-bent. because the concept of gender bending is fucking retarded and autistic. just make a female or male character separately, with their own agency. don't change one into something else. making a female link would not be taboo at all, but arbitrarily gender bending samus is retarded and a poor decision. if you think these are comparable, kill yourself.
>>341074997
It's called fate, we already deal with that shit.
>>341074415
He has brown hair in Zelda 1 and 2 and pink hair in 3
>>341075235
Except when the King of Hyrule says outright he has no ties to the hero, and just looks like him.
>people are still arguing against female link
Just fuck off already. The only thing Link needs to be Link is the spirit and the green clothes. That's literally all there is to the reincarnation.
Green fucking clothes.
>>341075643
Those don't count
>>341075643
The pink hair in Link to the Past was a sprite limitation, and he has blonde hair in all LttP art.
>>341075269
see
>>341071936
Your argument is stupid and holds no weight.
>>341075197
you're not fucking correct, dude. they're separate people. this is not my opinion, this is literal canonical fact. you're just fucking oblivious. like, we aren't somehow whining about some headcanon... you are fucking being told that each link is not the same person, and somehow you're mistaking your willful denial as fact. kys
>>341074335
>How is becoming a legacy hero a curse?
Not all of them had it well in the long run, pretty sure this one in particular became mentally fucked up from all of it, for example. And that's really only covering the surface.
>>341076113
Why?
>>341074335
The curse was that Demise would keep coming back. Pretty sure the reincarnation of Zelda and Link was more of the universe's response to combat tge curse
>>341075269
Link is also one character, and this would also be arbitrary gender bending. I agree, making Samus male would be stupid, but the same principle applies to Link.
>>341075808
>trusting what the fucking King says
He isn't one of the gods, he doesn't make the rules.
Also, shit has been retconned, same with Ganondorf being his own individual person with individual motives in WW as well. Turns out he's evil because of Demise's curse now, not out of his own desires and determination.
>>341055075
Ya some random kid just went out and killed ganon. Ok.
>>341076238
Being male is NOT part of the legend.
>muh visual theme
What fucking theme? The big three Links only have a passing resemblance.
>>341076281
Except how Skyward Sword retconned it that all Links were the "same person" with a few exceptions.
This is not my opinion, this is fact.
>>341075808
No, he says Link is not a decendant of the hero, which was never a requirement.
He believes Link is the hero reborn. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>341076694
you're literally just fucking wrong, dude. link is not one character. this is not my opinion.
a female link is not a genderbent link. it's just a link that is female, and exists separately from the other links. fucking kill yourself if youre going to keep on spewing this denial-filled bullshit.
>>341077045
Did no one actually play Skyward Sword? This "argument" is blatantly wrong
>>341077045
Not the same person in the slightest.
They were all incarnations of a Hero. And all Zelda's were incarnations of the Goddess.
That's it. You aren't the same as your grandfather, dipshit.
>>341077045
that's not what happened in skyward sword. that literally isn't at all what the story entailed. you are fucking wrong, dude. to try to argue that all links are the same person automatically makes you irredeemably retarded, period.
>>341077183
Link is a male character, and turning him female is by definition gender bending. And if you need to tell someone to "kill themselves" over your own inability to grasp your own hypocrisy, you're beyond reasoning with.
>>341075309
I don't believe in fate. I'm a badass.
>>341075309
>implying
you do know that quantum mechanics aren't deterministic, right?
>>341077045
you can't just repeat my wording and expect that to somehow make you correct. stop making this skyward sword argument, thats not even what happened fucktard
What an original thread, we've never ever discussed this before, I'm sure we'll reach a new conclusion from this deep and spirited debate.
>>341076973
>Being male is NOT part of the legend
It is, but that's not even the point. Link is an identifiable character with consistent traits. If you water down those traits with meaningless choices then you have a less iconic, less likeable character. There's a reason Link has over 16,000 images on pixiv. People like him, and they certainly wouldn't appreciate him being changed into something they like less. If the series needs another female character you can always add one. There's absolutely zero reason to compromise an existing character's persona and identity to add yet another female in a series that's already saturated with them. Female Link adds nothing while taking away a character we already know and love. It's stupid and selfish for you fucks to even suggest it, because we all know you just want to see more disgusting R63 porn.
Fuck off, "others"
>>341077663
again, no, because a female link would be a separate additional link. that doesnt effect any previous ones. because there are more than one fucking link. gender bending is not necessary, because a female link would be a separate person, not a replacement or alternative. samus and mario are single individuals. link and zelda are not. to try to argue against this is automatic retard.
I'm fine with anything if it could lead to more Linkle porn
>>341077470
>>341077570
>>341077604
>>341078643
Alright, look at it this way: Why now? Why, after all of these cycles where Link is a blonde male, would a female Link just so happen to show up? Are you saying it wouldn't be a contrived addition meant to pander to idiots whining that they can't have a woman Link?
>>341078554
that isn't what people are upset about. there's this one faggot that is trying to suggest that this consistent theme is somehow a rule, and that it means all links are the same.
newsflash: this is 2016. if you think all links are the same, You Are Retarded.
>>341079110
Not every Link is blond
>>341079357
Vast majority are, the only exceptions being Link from the NES games.
>>341048596
I DON'T FUCKING CARE, I JUST WANT THE GAME TO BE GOOD FOR SHIT'S SAKE.If you can choose gender, I'll probably play twice for the fuck of it.
>>341048937
Shit taste. Was like that before but after a while you get tired of female characters quick.
>>341079167
You've been posing with that horrible all lowercase grammar this entire thread, making terrible nonsensical points and contributing nothing to the discussion. You sincerely deserve to be ip range banned.
>>341079110
your arguments are misplaced. i don't think there's going to be a female link at all, i am simply calling out the retarded faggot who thinks all links are the same person and somehow thinks thats a reason why their shouldnt be. the fact of the matter is that there totally could be, and all of this MUH MALE LINK argument is stupid.
>>341079669
get over yourself?
>>341048596
Female chiming in here.
I think growing up I would have appreciated being able to play as a female character, I could have a "hero/idol" if you will.
I think it's important to have a plethura of female character types out there, just as there is a huge variety of male characters...what it really comes down to is we all want to have some sort of representation in the media we enjoy.
It does not in anyway take away from my enjoyment of games (I went as one of my all time favorite video game characters for Halloween, Mario) if the character is male, but it would be nice to have more representation, or to be able to have the choice of genders if this is able to be fit into a game.
I would also like to see more minorities, but maybe I'm asking for too much:) lol
>>341078554
>There's a reason Link has over 16,000 images on pixiv.
Yeah, I'm sure a girl Link design would REALLY kill Pixiv interest dead. They hate drawing girls over there.
>>341079794
I'm that faggot, and I'm only taking that standpoint because I think it's a pointless contrivance.
>>341079669
it's not a nonsensical point to say that the links are separate people. it's fuckin canonical fact. your opinions are shitty and your headcanons are wrong, your arguments are fucking baseless and petty, and you honestly need to get off the fucking high horse.
>>341052834
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT SHE CAN'T IDENTIFY AS A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>341071729
This.
Outside of the game's lore, Link is an established character whose design simply changed over time (this happens often with sequels, pic related.) For fun, Zelda fans came up with the timeline to try to explain the changes by finding connections that didn't exist and Nintendo played along a bit with Hyrule Historia.
At the end of the day, Link is Link. The whole point of the reincarnation is to bring back the original Link to stop whatever new shit is going down. I think even Fi said something like "May we meet again in another life" at the end of SS.
No matter the place, time, or threat, Link appears. Maybe I'm just a huge fag, but that's what makes his reincarnation cool.
>>341080235
if you think every link is the same, kill yourself. your opinions are automatically invalid
>>341048596
I wanna chose between male and female enemies.
Link is a guy though.
If they want a playable female then why don't they either introduce a new character, or just have Zelda be playable?
>>341079110
Ignoring the emotive language: would it be in order to make certain parts of the game's audience enjoy it more, rather than because it's essential to the series' narrative? Of course it would, and I don't think anyone would ever claim otherwise.
>>341080673
What part of "I'm only taking that standpoint because I think it's a pointless contrivance" did you not understand?
You're telling people to kill themselves for having wrong-think over a shitty retcon from a mediocre entry in a children's game series. Get over yourself.
>>341081245
Here's the thing though: the audience won't enjoy it more. The people actively clamoring for this change won't be satisfied with it, and eventually they'll keep demanding more.
>>341080595
skyward sword explained why and how there are more than one link, not that there's somehow one of them... if you think all links are the same person, you are fucking retarded. if you think skyward sword did anything but confirm and explain why there are multiple different links, you are retarded. if you're trying to use any of this as an argument against female link, you are retarded.
Post yfw when ridley and kkrool announced for smash.
Just consider the female Link to be non canon like pic related
Also didn't Nintendo bring up Link's sex as ambiguous for their first trailer?
>>341081448
there was no retcon. there has never been any sort of retcon whatsoever. you have misunderstood skyward sword. don't come at me with this "I was merely PRETENDING to be retarded!" asspull. you're just full retarded.
>>341082369
I forgot pic related
>>341082463
case in point.
>>341048596
It won't happen. Nintendo doesn't care about noisy minorities.
>>341082369
No, they immediately crushed all speculation by saying that Link is definitively male. Some people just can't get a clue, though.
Hopefully the new Zelda will be similar to the BS-X games where you play as a different hero summoned from another time. They had you choose between a boy or a girl.
>>341081192
a female link WOULD be a new character. each link is a separate person. nobody would be genderbent, there would just now be a link that is female.
it pretty much already happened with linkle.
to a perfect science, you're not using your brain if you think a female link couldn't happen.
it's not that it will, but the fact you think it can't shows how fucking retarded you are.
>>341081851
>The people actively clamoring for this change won't be satisfied with it, and eventually they'll keep demanding more.
That's assuming they'll even buy the game in the first place.
>>341082463
I don't know what that dude is referring to but there sure have been some retcons, such as the old Miyamoto timeline
>>341082973
judging by how they treat their fans i'd have to agree.
>>341081192
I don't understand why people claim an aesthetic option would totally change and ruin the game forever, then propose fundamental changes to Link's entire role in the story as a superior alternative.
Zelda comes with too many expectations about her place in the narrative to work as the same kind of protagonist, either changing the game or her own role much more deeply, and surely an original character would just hurt Link's role even more? Instead of "The hero actually could have been a girl all along", it says "to defeat this ancient evil, we either need the legendary hero reincarnated since time immemorial... or this random chick you've never seen before. Either one will do".
>>341081851
Great, but that claim has nothing to do with the point being addressed, which is that of course the reason for the change is external to the story.
>>341083528
The people that want female Link aren't fans.
>>341079652
I've been playing for over 20 years and I still prefer playing females. F U
>>341083240
you're taking what i said out of context, look at what i replied to. I'm referring specifically to the retcon that he stated occurred. which, of course, didn't. the specific retcon he mentioned did not occur.
>>341083558
>I don't understand why people claim an aesthetic option would totally change and ruin the game forever
It wouldn't ruin the game, it would ruin the character. Which in turn diminishes the game for many people because they're actual fans that like Link as he is.
>>341083931
not an argument. link is not one person. there could be a female link and it wouldnt effect anything. if they didnt want to play it they just pick the male option.
>>341083670
this
those people probably haven't even beaten one zelda game, and give zero fucks about the lore and everything that makes the game interesting.
>>341048596
Not likely and no
>>341083931
stop trying to use this argument. it's demonstrably false.
>>341048596
It's not happening.
Can you tumblrinas stop spamming this shit here and go talk about it on neogaf or some shit?
I do not want a female link, but the arguments people are making in this thread for why there CAN'T be one are fucking retarded. you're all a bunch of fucking losers.
>>341084254
It shouldn't even be an option. It still lessens Link as an iconic Nintendo character and ruins something that people really like about these games. You could put in less effort and have a better result by simply making Linkle or Zelda as optional characters or protagonists in a side game.
>>341084602
you don't even understand how poor the correlations you are trying to make, are. you don't even understand how cringey YOU sound.
>>341048596
It make little to no difference unless your a feminist
>>341083670
Except most people that still play Zelda are young girls. Since most young boys these days are basically young girls it's a no brainer.
>>341084505
That argument is absolutely correct and you idiots haven't been able to successfully raise even one counter point in a single one of these threads. There is no good reason to reduce an existing character to an option when you could just make a new character instead.
>>341083670
F U, man. I've been playing since NES even though I finished Ocarina first.
>>341084894
except it doesn't. having a female option doesn't fucking effect what people think about the legacy of the legend of zelda. you're WRONG, dude. i dont know how to put this more simply. i dont really want a female link either, but to think that there cannot and should not be, because of whatever fanboy reason you have, is fucking laughable.
>>341083931
But turning Zelda into a similar type of protagonist would affect her own role far, far more fundamentally, by changing how she fits into the game rather than just surface appearance (and not doing so would fundamentally change the feel of the game, again far more fundamentally), and I just explained how making Link's heroic role equivalent to a non-legendary protagonist would again diminish it at a much deeper level.
I'm ashamed to share love for this series with a bunch of mentally ill hambeasts and numale faggots.
What other series other than Zelda has had a bunch of people trying to gender-bender the main character like this?
>>341085208
Yeah, and who do you think would fight hard to keep Link the way he is? People who are attracted to him. Only fedora wearing numales want female Link because it appeals to their shit taste and disgusting fetishes.
>>341085310
see, the problem is that you seem to think it isn't that. let me repeat myself. not all links are the same person. a female link would just be a female link, separately and in addition to all the rest. nothing is replaced. nothing is altered. you're just playing a link that happens to be female. and nothing else is fucking effected. it IS a new, separate character, you just have to get your brain over the hump of "each link is different."
if you fucking listened to me, you have been told that a separate character is exactly what would and could happen. because link is not one fucking person.
>>341085423
>having a female option doesn't fucking effect what people think about the legacy of the legend of zelda
You're arguing against people who think that having a female option does have a negative impact. The fact that there's even an argument is proof that you're wrong.
Zero. They're gonna make Zelda a playable character. I GUARANTEE IT.
>>341085310
>There is no good reason to reduce an existing character to an option when you could just make a new character instead.
So it's better for Link to be reduced to only be as important as a random new girl with no previous connection to the legend of the series, rather than for him to have two appearances?
>>341080214
Fellow femanon here.
Leave my husbando alone and just ask for Nintendo to make a game starring Zelda instead.
>>341085509
to think people are trying to genderbend link is to fundamentally misunderstand what link is: Not One Person.
a new female link would be additional and separate from the rest, and nothing would fucking change. nobody would be effected. you could still choose male link, too. nobody is gender bent just because another option is made. link isnt suddenly always female forever. you're just a fucking whiny and probably sexist piece of shit.
i must reiterate i dont even want a female link, but to act like all this bullshit you guys are spewing somehow means there CAN'T be, is really fucking stupid. get over yourselves.
I'd play a game starring Zelda.
I wouldn't play a game starring female Link just because of how fucking retarded and forced it would seem. Just tumblrina pandering.
>>341048596
This is but wild speculation, but what if the hypothetical "female link" thing (following the new images of link, with what appears to be two different models, one being more feminine-looking than the other) is not a simple comestic option, but rather a character switch mechanic that allows you to play as Zelda/Sheik? They would have different sets of special abilities, but with common Sheikah artifacts (so as to keep the gameplay coherent and allow for interactions between the actions of both characters).
It wouldn't be THAT crazy, considering how the Young/Adult link switch worked in OoT, but it could be expanded in order to be integrated into pratically every dungeon/mini-dungeon etc...
It could be a nice in-between Young/Adult switch mechanic from OoT (which changed the world a lot and the character to some minor extent) and the mask mechanic from Majora's Mask (which changed the character a lot, but kept the world the same).
Hence the title would be based on this idea, with something like "Twin Eyes", or "Eyes of Sheikah".
>>341086816
>you could still choose male link, too. nobody is gender bent just because another option is made.
If there is a character whose gender is left to the player's choice, then that character is genderbent.
>>341086084
my argument isn't wrong because it isn't an argument. it's a statement of information. link is not one person. to think there HAS to be a female link is to be an annoying tumblr feminist, but to think there CAN'T be is to be a fucking cringey fucktard. being so arbitrarily butthurt over something doesn't make it inherently a problem. you're the problem.
>>341048596
How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from ablue or green tunic?
>>341086816
Doesn't the lore say that there will always be one boy and one girl born to oppose Ganon?
If there's a female Link, there must be a male Zelda.. and nobody wants that.
You *could* do some male/female twin shit, but it still messes with the lore if female Link is the one defeating Ganon.. unless it's to save Prince Zeldo.. but that shit is retarded of course.
The people petitioning for this dont even care about the lore. They just want female Link because muh gurll power or some dumb bullshit like that.
I hope they don't, because that would be fucking retarded.
inb4 "muh mysoginy"I'm a lesbian, faggots.
REJOICE EVERYONE!!
TOMORROW THIS FEMALE LINK MEME WILL DIE!
>>341048596
>male or female Link
there's a difference?
>>341087305
no, it isn't. it means you get to pick one or the other. to gender bend is to take an existing character and IRREVERSABLY MAKE THEM THE OTHER GENDER.
since link is Not One Person, making a new female link does not change the gender of anybody. they'd have been female the whole time. nobody is being changed. nobody is being altered.
>>341048596
Link is just so fucking cute.
I immediatly popped a boner when I saw this thread and began to fap on one of my favourite noncon Link yaoi's.
I really want to sleep with him, he is just so amazing.
I hate Nintendo.
