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WoW or FFXIV?
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WoW or FFXIV?
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I prefer FF14, but both can be fun.
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FF14 has more going for it at this point objectively speaking
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A cat is fine too.
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Why not Wildstar?
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>>341044691

Gameplay was fun but the artstyle and environments really turned me off.
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this thread again?
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>>341044831
It honestly looks very similar to WoWs.
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Also go for the game where Paladins are actual fucking Paladins.
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>>341045198
which one
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>>341045310
XIV they don't have none of that hammer wielding nonsense as a Paladin.
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>>341045198
The 50-60 PLD quests were objectively the best.
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ff14 hat catgirls and catboys
is this even a question
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Ffxiv looks and feels like plastic

Just play a private wow server
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>get a fucking astrologian in party finder for nidhoggex
>complain to prty leader, he says its fine because we got a SCH and they'll go diurnal
>start fight, notice the AST is doing 0 dps
>point this out, AST says his contribution in dos is cards
>quickly request to kick him, whole party agrees
>get back out and get a whm
>whm doing 200 dps less than sch, clear in one shot

Why do healers insist they don't need to dps?
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>>341045198
You know paladin is only a localization? They are -knights- in Jipang.
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Neither, mmos are a dead genre .
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>>341045469
why does everyone say ast is a terrible class
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How do I MCH?
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>>341045547
Because the other two do what it does but better.
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>>341045469
Why should healers DPS?
They are fucking healers, DPSers exist to DPS you frogposting trash
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>>341045469

>needing healer dps in nidex

We can see who are the shitters here
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>>341045569
Finish all of the main story quests until you get to Ishgard. Then the job is unlockable at the Skysteel Forge.
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>>341045547
People bitch about it being suboptimal.

And then they play paladin, summoner, black mage, bard and monk. lol.
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>>341045737
Tanks exist to soak damage yet they DPS too :^)
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>>341045737

Stop playing XIV if you really believe that. Being able to actually contribute to DPS while being a healer is a fucking godsend. There is nothing more boring that sitting and doing nothing while playing healing whack-a-mole.
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>>341045816
I mean, I just hit 60 on it. How do I MCH well?
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>>341045387
why can't paladins be paladins if they use hammers, or any weapon for that matter - I thought the overall archetype was 'knight in shining armor'
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>>341045893
Pray to RNGsus that you get procs.
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>>341045737
This isn't the game for you. Healers in XIV are designed to DPS. The encounters are balanced around it.

In hardcore raids, healers absolutely have to DPS.
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>>341045980
Because who the hell wants to play Whack A Mole?
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>>341045737
Fuck off out of this game if you're not going to do what is expected of you.
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>>341043870
Pre Cata alone
Pre WotLK with friends
Or none
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>>341046007

They are not, they rebalanced Midas so it wasn't an extreme case like Alexander.
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>>341045893
Just google the guides come on man
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>>341045737
>>341045769
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>>341043870

>WoW: last patch was +1 year ago
>FFXIV: Expansion and 3 major patches in 1 year
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>>341045893
Wait for a slug shot proc to reload, buff up, wildfire, John fucking madden. The rest of your time is spent 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 1 1
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Prove to me that healers should not dps
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>>341046245
>do what is expected of you
I'm playing a game not working a job fuck off neckbeard
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>>341045737

most of the DPS-check phases of EX/Savage modes have low incoming damage. It's better if the non-healing healers help with the DPS that having them standing there staring at the birds.
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>>341046494

90% of the time they should

But if the boss is spamming raid wide attacks you bet your ass they should be medica spamming
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>>341043870
FFXIV, by a landslide.

In comparison, WoW's animations are far lazier, along with the sounds and music. It's not bad, necessarily, it just feels like they didn't try nearly as hard as Square did with FFXIV's animations, sounds, and music.

But I guess it also comes down to your taste in games here. I mean, are you more for a darker atmosphere and world like WoW's, or a lighter one like FFXIV?
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>>341046504
Then enjoy getting verbally abused and kicked off anything other than the most casual content
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>>341045425
You must be jesting, the PLD questline was a fucking mockery. You are some detective until the very end where its revealed to you that it was all that roe dudes plan to trick you into sparring with him.

Just about every other questline is better and objectively speaking, NIN was the best for being the most unique.
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>>341046504
You have damaging skills for a reason as a healer
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>>341046504

If you were playing a game by yourself then that would be fine, but you are ruining it for the other 7 people you are playing with just so you can be pigheaded and lazy.
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>>341046631
DRG 50-60 was an absolute shit show.
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>>341046504
>mmo
>not working a job
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>>341045387
>XIV paladins

your entire purpose in the world is to protect the sultana, and that job was already taken up by the brass blades making you guys worthless.

Dark Knights and Warriors are closer to actual paladins than PLDs.
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>>341045737
>standing there contributing absolutely nothing to the group except some light heals every fifteen seconds because it takes away from your precious jacking off time
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>>341046627

>WoW
>dark atmosphere

There was nothing dark about WoD, HW was much darker.
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>>341043870
Albion Online
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I haven't played since 3.0, is exp leveling from 50-60 better now, or is it still really bad?
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ESO
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>>341046775
WAR are beserkers and DRK are edgelords. PLD are pure protectors of that which is the most dear and precious in Eorzea.
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>>341046903

It got better but don't expect to level up in 3 days unless you are a tank/healer repeating dungeons the whole day.
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>>341046802

Albion looked ok, but I don't really trust a F2P cash shop MMO also being developed for tablets.
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>>341046519
Heres how it goes:
>brand new raid
>sch should be putting succor up for almost every aoe and DT for any dangerous aoe phase, rest of the time they dps
>ast/whm should be keeping regens up and prioritizing heals, dots at bare minimum

>players overgear raid/know ins and outs of raid
>whm/ast should be solo healing the entire raid and throwing malefics/stones where they know they can
>sch should be 100% dps mode aside from the one mechanic that needs dt
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>>341046720
>>341046631
>tfw I'm mostly playing ffxiv still for the job class stories and glamour
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>>341046903
Beast tribe quests are a godsend for leveling.
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>>341047020

I don't mind if it's gotten better. Is it fates or dungeons that got better experience? I remember having to do like 10+ Aery runs to get a single level.
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>>341046649

So you can do story/solo content you retarded shitfuck.
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>>341047010
Wars use their inner strengths to protect the weak and control themselves through sheer power of will and the inner beast alone.

Dark knights are sworn protectors of the people and are seen as disastreous because of dark arts usage and being seen as vigilatnes more thna heroes.

Paladins are literally just walking cumrags for the syndicate and the sultanate. They spend most of their time inside the uldah palace if they arent a free-sworn and most dont even carry shields either.

Paladin a shit, and this is coming from one that likes playing it.
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>>341047217

Notice how you are the only one who believes healers should DPS? Maybe that should tell you something.
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>>341047217
And so you just sit around doing nothing during downtime where nobody needs healing?
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>>341047283
Wow, the edge.
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>>341047371
Dude have you tried healing without dpsing? It's a boring ass time. You don't have to sit there and keep the tank topped off.
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>>341047371

shouldn't*
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>>341047401

I draw cards.
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>>341047409
Truth hurts, my boy.
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>>341047401
>downtime
If you're a braindead DPScuck just say it. There is no downtime when healing.
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>>341047537
>30 seconds reload time
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>>341047632
>what is regen
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>>341047632

I would love you see how much you overheal.
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>>341047632
>there is no downtime when healing

jej
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Just don't reply.
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>>341046903

Doing the HW beast tribe quests can make it pretty quick, they give like 50-70k a pop and you can do 3 of each a day
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>>341047957
Is it worth it doing the other beast tribe quests from ARR and not HW?
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>>341047632
During trash there absolutely is downtime, unless you think keeping the tank 100% topped off at ALL TIMES is absolutely necessary, otherwise I just toss him a heal when he drops to around 70%, then go back to DPSing.

With bosses it can be more tricky, but even then I usually find some time to switch to Cleric Stance, toss in a few dots, then swap back to heal.
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>>341048116
The Lizard dudes give grade IV materia at max rank. But it takes a while.
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>>341047283
>war power comes from taming the inner beast
>drk power comes from emotion which most default to anger/rage (though if what the moogles say is true something like love should work and if the WoL's own questline is any indication you don't have to let it turn you into a giant edgelord like sidurgu)
What does pallys come from? Emotion but the desire to protect, or what?
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>>341048116
The main 4 give IV materia, ixal don't seem to give much beside moonstones.
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>>341046627
Funny thing is FFXIV while looking more upbeat and lighter, it's actually far darker thematically when it comes down to it all.

Also throwing in another vote for FFXIV. Best MMO at the moment, and a damn good FF game too.
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>>341048636
Ixal is just good for leveling crafters or something.
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>>341045198
I wish XIV had called them Knights instead. They ARE called Knights in the Japanese version, and beyond that the Knight job predates the Paladin job in FF, and FF Knights have always had the "able to use white magic" gimmick too.
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>Login into FFxiv
>Go into my house
>See this Lalafell under my desk

What to do?
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>>341048116
>>341048636
Ixal got updated to give crafter/gatherer T4 materia.
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>>341048636
Ixal give IV Crafting and Gathering materia as of 3.3
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>>341048843
Berserker would have fit Warriors better. But semantics.
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>>341048548
Paladins get their power from coveting/protecting a specific thing, be it a person, weapon or a higher authority.

Which goes against the idea of free-sworn paladins existing because they would justb e mercenaries who dont protect a specific thing unless its their family or something.
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>>341043870

Tried FFXIV, the leveling was horrible boring. Heard the raids were nothing special.

Legion looks fun and better than WoD. So I'll go with that.
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>>341049012
FF Berserkers are furries.
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I just can't seem to git gud with Monk or Summoner. My monk ilvl is 205 yet my dps is usually between 750 and 1000.
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>>341048959
Sit down and see if it will suck you off.
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>>341049167
How's the leveling in WoW?
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>Keep going back to WoW every couple years
>Actually like casual and polished gameplay
>Hate cookie cutter classes
>Bored after a month
>Always delete it and swear never to touch it again
>Reinstall anyway

>Re-sub FFXIV every year
>Love class switching, overall theme, and playing with a controller on my couch
>Story and cutscences are meh
>Hate sleep inducing combat
>Bored after a month but leave installed

>Still getting the urge to play a good fantasy MMO
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>>341049340
Do positionals and don't drop your greased lightning stacks.
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I was forced into WoW by XIV's fucking terrible customer service system cornering me into a situation where my account is forever inaccessible.

Playing WoW now, and I have to say I'm having quite a bit more fun. The levels just seem to grind through themselves while I have fun exploring the dungeons and world while questing. It really opened my eyes to how fucking small XIV is. Even the larger areas of Heavenward are tiny compared to a singled dungeon in WoW, and every map in XIV is instanced, with flying mounts available in only a small number of those.
I guess you could say the animations are worse in WoW but that honestly doesn't bother me considering the combat is actually decent and encourages experimentation as opposed to XIV's 1-2-3 shit and 2.5 sec GCD.
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>>341049340
How can you even fuck up MNK and SMN.
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>>341049340
Flank means flank
Back means back.
Use your dots.
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>>341049705
>the combat is actually decent and encourages experimentation
haha
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>>341049396
sämst
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>>341049705
> every map in XIV is instanced
Literally wrong. There's no instances in the overworld.
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>>341049326
At least you aren't German because then your WAR would be this guy.
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>>341049918
There were instances for HW zones at the launch of 3.0 :^)
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>>341049846
>that image
Step it up.
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>>341044691
ded game
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>>341050068
Well I guess that fucking changes everything doesn't it?
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>>341045469
the reason we dont like to is because when some idiot dps takes a hit we have to take off clerics and start using a heal. If we use a panic heal that means the dps was an idiot for getting into that situation but if the standard heal dosnt get him in time we get blamed. Do your fucking job and dodge aoes.
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>>341047173

They got better.
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>>341049396

You pay and BAM! Level 100.
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Which has the better leveling experience?
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>that guy who fantasias at least three times a week
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>>341050675
What level are Demon Hunters going to start off as?
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>>341050885
XIV, easily. WoW's leveling experience is effectively non-existent. They give you a free lvl 90 character just for buying WoD.
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I dont have much time to play on weekday but i do have enough time to finish dailies. Should i work on getting scholar to 60? (its 56 and AST and WHM are 60 already) or should i stockpile Esoterics throughout the week?
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What the fuck is the Monk anima weapon supposed to be? That reddit picture doesn't really resemble anything
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>>341051085
Depends, do you intend on maining scholar? Or is it just for fun?

If the latter I would just focus on stockpiling esoterics for your mains relic.
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>>341050893
>cat to hyur, hate how she looks, try to fix my mistake, still hate it, go back to original appearance
$30 mistake
No idea how they do it
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>>341049918
>walk 15 seconds
>loading screen

>even the major cities have loading screens separating them

ALSO

>meaningless endgame
>shitty reddit/tumblr community full of retarded teenagers and BR
>also literal pedophiles
>gear treadmill
>daily tribe rep lockouts for maximum sub time milking
>weekly raid gear lockouts

The game was dying and HW is its life support machine. It kept it going a while longer but people are barely logging on now just to check the patch. Everybody in my 40 person FC quit last month including me.
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>there are people who intend on getting the pld relic
>there are people who intend on getting the ast relic
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>>341048638
ffxiv has the happy at the foreground while the depressing shit is in the background. For example tam tara deepcrofts entire story and how the WoL is unwittingly semi-responsible for lots of adventurers dying.
>>341049014
They could covet a concept like JUSTICE
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>>341050893
I don't get how people do it. I'm so attached to my character that I'd never even consider fantasiaing into something else except maybe if they introduced bangaa as a playable race but that's never happening anyway..
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Leveling scholar for playing, thinking about a tank for casual tanking. How are paladin's? Not planning on tanking raids or shit like that, just a palette cleanser from healing.
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>>341051607
>there are people who intend to get the MCH relic
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>>341051594
instances =/= loading screens
instance, by definition, is a copy of an area created for a limited number of people, identical to but separate from other instances of that zone
use words correctly or I'll fuck your face up you puff
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>>341051607

>There are people who intend to grind for any relic

Literally not worth it, never BiS
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>>341051897
They are braindead easy.
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>>341045547
Meme spouting. AST is better than WHM at this point, arguing other was is just naive.

AST used to be complete and utter dogshit, and then they started buffing the shit out of it every patch.

AST is basically WHM except with more mitigaiton options and far more party utility/buffs, whereas WHM beats it out in AoE healing.

AST still has trouble replacing SCH, though. Still, best healer comp is AST/SCH.
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>>341051594
ARR was doing fine. 3.0 and 3.1 were a mistake.
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>>341051607
fuck you m8 pld looks great
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>>341049705
>the combat is actually decent and encourages experimentation as opposed to XIV's 1-2-3 shit and 2.5 sec GCD.


And here we go
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>>341051607
>nin relic looks fucking awful
I still want it, but I'll glamour Sasuke over it.
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>>341051607
>there are people who intend on getting any relic
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>>341049705
>I was forced into WoW by XIV's fucking terrible customer service system cornering me into a situation where my account is forever inaccessible.

I don't know how that happened for you but I can second this.
A friend of mine was permanently banned due to an issue with payment. When telling customer service he could pay in whatever way they wanted, they refused and closed his accountt despite him paying for another 3 months of game time which he had to just watch go down the drain.
I don't intend on playing this shit until I hear their customer service gets an overhaul.
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>>341049396
Leveling is one of the few areas where wow outright wins to me, you can just follow the quest lines area to area which will easily level you, in some cases even over level you for an area or you can do dungeons and battlegrounds to max. XIV leveling is alright for the first 2 classes when you have msq xp and quest left over, after the 3 or 4th though it becomes a complete grind.
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Mithra > Worgen > Miqo'te
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>>341043870
Is this even a question?
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>>341052487
Yiff in hell
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>>341052369
>made by someone who has never played WoW
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>>341052369

>Shantotto

props
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>>341052369

>"I fucked up and lost Enochian"

So fucking true.
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>>341052884
It's not far off.
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>>341049705
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>>341052432
Exact same thing that happened to me.
Account suspension is permanent, and customer service said that they wouldn't accept payment in any form. Happened just last week - after 2 straight years of playing and loving the game.
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>>341051607
>there are people who don't intend on getting all three healer relics

WHM > AST > SCH design wise
SCH > AST > WHM use wise
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>>341052487
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>>341053695

What did you do to get banned?
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>>341053523
>2.5s (two and a half seconds) gcd (global cooldown [locks you out of using other abilities for the duration])
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>>341054080
Meh, SCH got The Last Resort which is straight up the most beautiful Zeta of them all.
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>>341054329

No it doesn't. It only locks other GCD skills, the game is all about the of GCD skills you use during the GCD.
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>>341045486

This makes me realize that a Pally girl is like the perfect catch.

>flawlessly clean
>yammers on about justice and holiness in a cute way
>gives you her complete attention in bed as a dutiful partner
>but also has a timid part of herself she reveals in bed underneath that tough exterior
>wears sexy pally leg gear in bed
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>>341054804
That's not how global cooldowns work.
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>>341054080
>whm ast
>better than anyting design wise
>literally flashy girly healers

What does it feel like having shit taste?
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>>341055014
It is in this game.
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>>341054275
Had a fraud scare and had to do a mass chargeback, then closed the bank account. XIV monthly payment got caught in it.
They closed the account after the chargeback, no surprise, my mistake. After calling customer service they told me I had to reverse the chargeback, which wasn't possible because the bank account had been closed. They refused to accept any other payment.
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>>341054804
This lala again.
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>be a healer
>tank gets pissy because I keep pulling because he's so fucking slow to do anything
>decides to not go into a boss room after the timer goes off to get me wiped
Stop being so fucking slow people, there's no reason to wait 10 seconds in between every pull
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>>341055089
>Buttmad SCHfaggot upset his relic is just another boring ass book with a feather

It's okay lad, Scholar is one of the most least-drawing and poorly designed class anyway, nobody is surprised your relic looks like shit again

>IT'S LITERALLY ANOTHER BOOK WITH A FEATHER
>SCH FAGGOTS GET DICKED AGAIN WITH THE WORST LOOKING RELIC
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>>341055181
One more reason not to play that shit game if devs don't understand basic concepts like that.
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>>341054517
>better than excalibur, ragnarok, yochi, nirvana and sasuke
Nope
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>>341055721
>This feature is bad because this feature works this way
>Actually anon, it works differently in this game
>Well then it's bad because it's not what I expected
Anon please.
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>>341056062
Yes it is, get a better taste
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>>341055708
>liking overdesigned trash
How typical of the token special snowflake healer who is absolutely useless.

Even npcs hate you.

Show me some more of your frilly gay as shit animations and light shows.
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>>341056591
Not him, but dude all Scholar books are literally just a poorly designed and unimpressive book with a feather
Last Resort is gorgeous but I wouldn't argue it's the best
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>>341056591
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>>341056875
>Typical assmad SCH forced into a shitty role with poor aesthetics while everyone compliments the main healer
>All of his weapons are poorly designed trash while everyone stares in awe of AST/WHM spells

It's okay, nobody judges you for looking like shit. We all expect it at this point.
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Literally made the same thread again
>47 IP
>167 posts
Fucking WoWfugees.
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>ast mog globe is awesome
>sch mog book is fucking awful
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>>341055014

You keep Calling it GCD but it's not. Only Weaponskills share the 2,5s CD. You have many other skills that are not Weaponskills.
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>Want to play sch and main it for the fact it's basically needed here and there in content
>Its aesthetics and weapon look like shit and they get the shaft design wise
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SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO MAIN AND WHY
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>>341059465

Dps tank or heal?
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>>341055195
You can't make a new account and pay with time card? My account was banned for using VPN apparently twice because I'm an idiot who had it open a second time and they said I can make a new account but my previous one will still be suspended.
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>>341059742
tank or dps. I can't heal to save my (or anyone else's) life.
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>>341057282
>poorly designed trash
The only poorly designed trash in this game are the overdesigned af from heavensward and spectacle light shows that nobody cares about or thinks are cool.

A mature person would appreciate cool looking, scientific and strategic looking spells that scholar uses. Even the LB is impressive without being over the top.

I bet you think the last resort zeta looks good.

>whm
>boring and plain priestess look, doesn't even look good on males

>ast
>high school girl with tons of makeup in a ridiculously overdesigned dress with tons of colors

>sch
>scientific look, ready to outstrategize the enemy
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>>341059465
Tank: WAR
Healer: SCH
DPS: BLM or MNK (if you want a melee)
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>>341057781
>>341058832
>>341057282
>all this samefag
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The correct answer to OP's question is, neither. Try playing a good game instead.
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this is the new
>still no raid roulette
isn't it?
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Did the new FFXIV patch add anything decent, or is it just the same shit as every other patch?
I'm thinking about buying 1 month to kill some time.
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>>341060459
>Schfaggots are this autistic to think that their class is "scientific" looking in any way shape or form

In truth:
>WHM
Calm, poised, knows a clear difference between right and wrong. Pure, elegant.

>AST
>Mysterious, insightful, wise. Knows much about the world and how it functions, mature.

>SCH
>Overdressed nerdy faggot
>The person in group projects to CONSTANTLY remind everyone of all the work he's doing
>Forgotten about as AST and WHM do all the hard work
>Nobody likes him, uncool in parties

This is the truth and you know it.

>>341061252
>>341060459
>e-everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag
btw, nice samefag
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>>341054329
>>341055014
>>341055721

Fucking retard.

1: The GCD is 1.5 seconds for the fast melee classes, and around 2.3 for the rest

2: Every class has a ton of skills you can use any time as long as you're not in an animation

3: Animations rarely last longer than 0.5 seconds

4: Result: You will usually be using at least 2 skills for each "GCD", sometimes 3.
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>>341063979
>smug anime girl
Typical from a faggot defending AST's design.

>SCH
>overdressed
I know all the heavensward af designs are shit but no need to takenout your frustrations on SCH, they got the coolest af in 2.0, aside from the hat.

>SCH
>not doing all the Hard work
You can't heal someone who's dead anon.
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>>341063979
>ast
>mysterious, wise, insightful

Nope. Only myterious the latter two apply to sch
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>>341065350
>Sch
>Best AF gear in 2.0
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>SCH
>Doing all the hard work
>Literally throwing out a couple of Dots while the other healer does the work
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>341065550
>SCH
>Wise or insightful
>Never use any healing abilities and blame the other healer for any mistakes
>Wise

lol
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>>341052710
Literally the reddit character of the series. And XIV is pretty much a reddit game.
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>play as a tank
>healer is a retard who doesnt dps and just overheals constantly
>play as healer
>tank is a retard who takes forever to do anything
>play as a dps
>lol
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>>341066452
Nice scapegoat.
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>>341066182
>utilize shields ahead of time
>literally planning for the bext attack

>>341065968
>opinions and wrong facts
Do you seriously think people would take scholar if all it did was dps? Typica shitter whos never raided.
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>>341066779

>Play sch
>Duty roulette, Copper Bell mines
>Tank and I been around, DPS were sprouts, mnk and archer
>Set my fairy to sic, pop cleric stance
>Up through final boss I out DPS'd both if them
>Mnk dies to final boss, at me to resend them (no rez due to level sync)
>Kick him before we finish
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>>341059952
I can but I'm not sure I have the heart to.
I got almost all classes to 60 and had a shitload of event items.
I might end up doing it, but getting banned like that makes me feel really betrayed especially after how long I was a loyal customer.
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>>341068494
I was the same too. Probably biggest FF fan around and XIV is my favorite modern FF but I ended up doing it again out of love for the game when I kept pestering their robots working in CS and they eventually let slip that I can make a new account and play on it.

Ironically now I'm fucking sick of XIV and started playing XI
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>>341045885
So remind me why you picked the Healer again?
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>>341068248
>I out DPS'd both if them
Because you are in ilvl 200+ gear you moron
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>>341068248
>things that didn't happen
Seeing as you can't kick during a boss fight...just neck yourself
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>>341070495
That's what all these generic >Muh bad player experience posts are in these threads, things that don't happen for the sake of getting (you)'s wouldn't be surprised if the people cluttering these threads with these posts are shitters themselves.

Everyone but them is shit apparently.
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>always play first 2 months of WoW expansion release and only resub if the current new patch is interesting
>unsubscribed since 2nd month of release
>friend is bored as fuck wants to play an mmo
>ask friend if he wants to play WoW
>lolno man it looks boring
>he picks up black desert, I follow
>he quits within a month
>picks up FFXIV, I follow
>I hit level 40 and he quit at 28 because he thought questing was boring
>other friends pick up WoW because of movie free games
>friend finally picks up WoW
>they're all enjoying it

They're pretty casual. I think it's odd people outright refuse to play WoW because of many reasons and won't give it a try. I always give mmos a try to see if I like it and try not to look at them biased. I'm still p laying FFXIV to see the end game, level 44 WAR now.
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>>341065310

Not him but

1: The GCD is 1.5 seconds for the fast melee classes, and around 2.3 for the rest

You'll never get a 1.5 s GCD on any class unless you autistically go full skill speed but everybody knows it's less than viable. Usually on MNK and NIN you get around 2 s GCD, maybe a bit less with SCH buffs.
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>>341072024
Your friend is a complete shitter for giving up so early and going back to WoW.

>tfw FFXIV main scenario quests are a literal casual filter

I love it.
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>>341043870
GW2
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>>341073183
He didn't go back to WoW. He never played WoW he gave up.
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What's the most hipster job of each role, including the different types of dps (i.e. caster, melee etc.)?
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>>341073183
How do people in 2016 who obviously have an interest in games not know how story heavy this series is?
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AST
PLD
And either MCH or BRD depending on which one is more buffed for that patch, BRD currently
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>>341073417
There aren't really any "hipster" job considering they're all pretty viable in endgame.

For least played jobs I'd say the three new jobs and NIN in my experience.
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>people are crying for nerfs to the Wiping City of Mhach

My clear came with 10 minutes left on the timer and I loved every glorious second of it. The hardest part isn't the mechanics themselves (these are rather easy actually) it's somehow lucking into having a good party, because it only takes 1-2 shitters to wipe the whole party.
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>>341043870
XIV. It isn't even a contest.
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>>341046720
MNK 50-60 annoyed me
>Annoying cat girls
>Yet another faggot who can go saiyan while I cant
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>>341073871
Dank Knight is everywhere though. Muh edgelords.
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>>341074818
It's just in my experience. I ran 6 Mhachs last night for muh chest and there wasn't a single DRK in any of the runs.
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>tfw 29 years old and have literally no time for MMOs anymore
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>>341073417
SCH, WAR, NIN.
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So last thread someone said the allagans were able to travel to different worlds and thats why their robots are based on previous FF ones.

Is there source on this? Because it sounds interesting.
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>>341076264
How is WAR hipster?
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>>341051607
>People actually fell for the relic jew
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Is the FFXIV story worth playing through the game?
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>>341077884
ARR is shit and has filler fetch quests
Heavensward is when the game feels like Final Fantasy story wise.
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>>341077884
ARR has its moments but it's way too padded imo
Heavensward is all around fantastic
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Hey peeps, STR or VIT items for WAR?
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>>341077884
I started playing like 3 weeks ago, ARR story like they say mostly consist of fetch quests, still good enough to keep you going, im currently doing the 2.x msq and its really starting to pick up at around 2.3.
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>>341073996
I swear to God I hate that fucking place because of this. My group can do fucking perfect mechanics. Meanwhile fucking Alliance B has one person who dies to nearly every mechanic and at 15% or so they wipe, which causes Alliance C to wipe which causes Alliance A to wipe. While I, as a SCH, am staying within 80% of one of Alliance B's DPS.

I hate this fucking game some times. ITS A FUCKING SHAPE RECOGNIZATION BOSS HOW RETARDED DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GOD DAMNED TRIANGLE, SQUARE AND CIRCLE? FUCKING NORMIES REEEEE
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>entire raid team from wow buys FF
>all of our characters are top tier
>some hot, some cute, some meme, some giganiggas
>we powerlevel our way through the game as best as we can
>i get to the point of being able to unlock bard
>we've all lost interest in the game
>we go back to raiding SoO 10man HC

idk man, the game seemed so solid, but its more of a fucking grind than vanilla wow
;_;
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>nidhogg ex yesterday
>first add phase
>be doing 1600 DPS as MNK
>no other DPS is even breaking 1000
>constantly wipe to it
>no one knows what's going on
>too afraid to tell them their damage is shit since parsing can get you banned

nice job S-E
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>>341079319

>A GOD DAMNED TRIANGLE, SQUARE AND CIRCLE?

Actually it's a tetrahedron, a cube and a sphere
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Anyone regularly play FF14 with a controller on PC?
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>>341077884

Best FF story in a decade by far.

You'll have to slog through several hours of fetch quests to get to the good parts, but it's more than worth it.

I'm not even interested in the MMO aspect, I play the game solely for the story, music and boss battles.

Note that some of the best story content in the game is optional, you won't see it unless you seek it out.
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>>341080414
Yeah.
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>>341080414

yes
scholar main as well
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>>341080000
Quints of truth aside, your average normie doesn't know what the fuck a sphere is much less a tetrahedron.

>>341080414
I do when I'm fishing and watching Netflix.
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>>341079938
They could just add an in-game meter and that would solve a lot of problems
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>>341082013
b-but the players feelings

you can't make people feel bad for being bad
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>>341080998
post your cross hotbars, I want to learn your secrets.
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>>341079595
Fucking WoWfugees!
Reeee!
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>>341082013
They shouldn't add a meter but they should not ban people for using ACT to blame baddies too.
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>>341045737
Sylphie, we've talked about this.
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>>341053695
the game is so casual i bet you can catch back up in 1-2 months.

Seriously, people act like this is hardcore, when everybodies walking around with the same fucking gear. It's literally all raiding.
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>>341079938
>PF training on fang/claw and after
>first wipe on dps check
>next wipe on aoe after the 3rd phase
>try again, can't even past the 1st phase
At least I didn't suffer that much on Ozma.
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>>341076264
>SCH
>WAR
>Hipster
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>>341084438
>Ozma
>One DPS is doing 10% of the entire alliance's DPS
>The two SCHs are doing 4% combined
I don't think I can do it. I don't think I can actually do Ozma because the other people are so fucking bad.
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>>341082221

3 primary ones

DPS mode
Healing mode
Fairy management
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>>341085513
Couldn't you use a macro to switch between DPS and Heal mode when you use Cleric Stance? It'd cut your bars down by one. Or is that not an issue with a controller?
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>>341081695
>Quints of truth aside, your average normie doesn't know what the fuck a sphere is much less a tetrahedron.
This game is 16+ you know.
They went to school, right?
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>>341086289
>They went to school, right?
Do you think they took any worthwhile math classes?
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>>341085092
>Got blessed by the first group I did Mhach with
>We beat the raid and I got an armor piece + the penny and farthing
>I have to go back in Tuesday

I'm afraid
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>>341086240

It's not really an issue because you can jump between any 3 seamlessly when needed
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>>341068108
>BLaming other people for your shitty faults
>Wise or insightful

>Counterargument is opinions
>When the original argument was sheer opinions

Yup, confirmed SCH main, nobody is this autistic
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>>341077413
>>341084758
>SCH
>WAR
>not hipster
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>>341088845
>The most popular tank class
>The most popular healing class
>Hipster

Do you know what that word means anon?
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