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>players can build their own vaults
>post-war
This kills the lore
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pre-war Jet and vertibirds already did that.
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They clearly don't care.

And if you still give a shit about Fallout 4 you shouldn't either.
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Who the fuck cares about Fallout lore
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>>340994885
How the fuck is building a vault post-war non lore friendly? I'm not even Todd.
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>>340994885
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>>340996287
New Vegas isn't worth remastering.

They would need to rebuild the game from the ground up on the new engine.

Although it would be cool, I highly doubt it will happen.
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>>340996220
>impossible to do
>only a limited number of vaults, all of which were a vault-tec experiment
It's okay if they think of like 3 new vaults for each game but letting everyone just build their own one is plain retarded.

>>340995880
I just hope they come out at some point and claim that Fallout 4 is non-canon.
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>>340996287
>>340996395
>>340996515
>there won't be another Obsidian fallout anymore
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>>340996220
planning
resources
manpower (machine power)
time
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>>340996678
>but letting everyone just build their own one is plain retarded.

Good thing it's just remodeling and renovation of 111 then?

You should actually watch the video.
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>>340996528
>Talking shit about New Vegas
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>>340996287
>>340996395
>>340996515

What's the point of these twitter caps?

I know Obsidian has fans and I know none of their former publishers want to hire them again already.
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>>340996914
>You should actually watch the video.
I actually didn't watch it, just saw the announcement
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>>340996983
New Vegas is not that great of a game.

It was buggy, it looked like shit, the voice acting was shit, the mechanics were even shittier than Fallout 3.

Only 15-18 year olds praise Fallout New Vegas, because it was either one of their first "adult" games or because they think ultra dumbed down and poorly functioning RPG = good.
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>>340996983
>wanting a shitty remaster on an old engine
>even if there's plenty of mods that already polish this graphical turd
We all love NV but there's just no reason to "remaster" it. Maybe rebuild it on a better engine like anon said.
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I'd expect this out of some short-sighted modder with way too much ambition but not enough knowledge on how to pull it off.
How can they even make this work? Trying to build above-ground settlements with any amount of complexity is already an exercise in futility in how bad the system is.
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>>340997171
>one of their first "adult" games
>A silly as fuck game like Fallout
>"Adult"

What the fuck?
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> Vault-Tec
> Had an iron grip on the US Government to build hundreds upon hundreds of vaults when they were actually used to fuck with people in tests.
> Highly rare locations with potentially life-saving technology inside such as working hospitals and the GECK.

> Fallout 4
> LOL GUISE YOU TOO CAN CREATE A VAULT WITH SOME WOOD AND METAL
> JUST DIG OUT A CAVE ITS EAAAAASY
> FORGET ABOUT THOSE MORBID EXPERIMENTS, JUST ENJOY THE VAULT BOY MASCOT MERCH WE HAVE ON SALE

I want to be in a grave right now.
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>>340994885
This is literally a mod you can download for free right now, what the fuck is with Bethdesa trying to one up the modding community with all of these bullshit settlement cosmetics DLCs. I feel bad for the poor shmucks who bought the season pass, if you don't build settlements (which is already known that no one fucking does) then a good chunk of the DLC they've realesed is worthless.
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>>340996983
"Better than Fallout 3" means nothing when it's also shit. It wouldn't be worth anyone's time to remake New Vegas on Creation Engine.

You people drone for Obsidian almost as much as you did for Nintendo.
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>>340994885
a mod that looked exactly the same minus "experiments" which will probably be watered down clunky shit is already available for PC and consoles to build your own vault.

hilarious they still talk about Fallout 4 being AMAZING, I don't care about the sales, that was brand name and normies. The game is universally panned.
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>>340997750
Didn't they announce two, and the other one is just some nonsense that allows you to build armor racks?
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>>340997256
theres already a vault creator as a mod on consoles that is exactly the same as Bethesda's
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>>340997601

Not him but I've heard more than enough people call Fallout New Vegas a "thinking man's game".

Probably the same types of people who think The Witcher games are "mature games for mature gamers".
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>>340997695
it died with the announcement of that shitty phone game, remember?
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>>340997750
>I feel bad for the poor shmucks who bought the season pass
i don't. they all got what they deserved. every single one of them.
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>>340997750
>This is literally a mod you can download for free right now,
It literally is not, you fucking retard. They put Skyrim on the updated Creation engine, which allows it to benefit from the improvements Fallout 4 did. Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>340998351
if they had just released the GECK some guy would have just made a mod and release it for free.

Bethesda knew all of this and made these add-ons first and charged money for them.
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If anyone in here is a modder, please help a brother out.

>>340997452
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>>340997750
Wasteland Workshop is such a waste of money

The only thing I use from it is the concrete walls, nothing else.
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>why should we create the content when the players can create it for themselves
wew lad, I can't wait for skyrim 2 where there's only one town and you have to build the rest
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>>340994885
nigga Beth discovered they don't need to create a game or have lore, just let people build/mod and you will sell millions of copies without effort
next TES will just be a "create your own adventure" toolkit
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>>340998542
I simply went over a tiny bit of the build
limit with the scrapping gun exploit.

now my save crashes 10 mins into workshop mode and or when I travel to "major" cities like Diamond City.

I already hated this game but this just takes the biscuit.
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>>340997695
>I did not watch the video and am just kneejerk reacting

Alright then.
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>>340998848
how much sweat did you muster up before submitting your epic reply to that anon?
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WEW
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>>340994885
who actually cares
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LAD
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>>340994885
It's BETHESDA'S franchise now. Get over it nerds.
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> 2016
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The lore of Fallout has Dr Who in it.
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>>340996794
good. obsidian should have to make something themselves that's worth rehashing.
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honestly I'm not mad if anything I'm a little interested in the idea of making my own vault

Outside the fact that few vaults were meant to house people , a majority were meant to experiment and all vaults took hours upon hours to complete

I think for video game sake this is fine
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>>340997601
adults are silly
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> Buying Bethesda DLCs
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>>340999190
Just retcon my shit up
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> People pay for weapon racks
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> When its free on Nexus
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>>340999190
>this guy is perfectly cool with the fact bethesda cucked him out of lore he worked to write

bet he let todd fuck his wife too
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>build a fucking settlement
>Build a fucking vault

I loved FO3 and NV, but everything I've seen of FO4 looks like super non-fun work, and the art design is too clean/saturated.
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>>340998986
literally the same as a free mod that came out on consoles too
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>>340999190
so THAT's why he left. He gave up hope.
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>>340996515
don't worry anon

soon
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Literally why
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>>340999238
Into the trash it goes.
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sounds like fallout shelter
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>>340999082
ahahaha I h8 bethesda
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fuck todd howard
I hope he chokes on his bulls cum
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>>340999759
this is beyond pathetic

rip elder scrolls single player
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>>340999662
Are these actually the graphics of FO4?
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Through excellent super-sleuthing I have discovered that your "vault"...
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>>340999759
Bethesda just doesn't care

their games are GTA clones with different coats of paint
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>>340999670
More like accepts that his company was going under and doesn't dwell in the past like a fucking moron.

Also I'm pretty sure he's single.
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>>340996220
>I'm not even Todd.

One shitposter only tells the truth. His brother only tells lies. You can only ask one question to figure out what path to take.
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>>341000068
...Is literally in a underground hanger/warehouse interior cell just like the Mechanist Settlement.

No real digging for you vault dweller.
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>>340998986
>wood

Quality.
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>>340994885
What's the point? Will it count as a settlement? It has the potential to be pretty interesting
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LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS SHIT.

YOU ARE A PARENT. WHAT KIND OF PARENT DOESN'T GO OUT SEARCHING FOR THEIR MISSING CHILD?

>NAH LET'S BUILD SETTLEMENTS
>NAH LET'S GO ON SIDE QUESTS TO FIND PAINT
>NAH LET'S COLLECT MORE MATERIALS
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>>341000468

No one cares about the story.
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>>341000468
>MUH BABY
Nah.
Fuck off with that.
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> Remember how the Sierra Madre was an excellent story of survival, weighing trust/risk and coming to let go of your vices?

> HERE IS A DISNEYWORLD DLC OF OUR MEME COLA
> ENJOY WACKY RIDES WITH REALLY AWFUL COMMENTARY ABOUT MATERIALISM OR SOME SHIT
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>>341000152
Which games would you ask me to preorder if you were your brother?
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>>341000705

Brink 2
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>>341000584
>>341000627
it's a plot that doesn't make sense.

Even doubly so if you play as a female character.
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>>341000672
>> HERE IS A DISNEYWORLD DLC OF OUR MEME COLA
>> ENJOY WACKY RIDES WITH REALLY AWFUL COMMENTARY ABOUT MATERIALISM OR SOME SHIT

The setting is a good idea. A theme park has all kinds of things inside it that you could do crazy stuff with. The potential for scrapped machinery and creepy shit is huge. The setting is a good idea. The problem is that Bethesda won't utilize it properly.
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>>341000830

Hence why no one cares.
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>>341000672
Hey, you leave Nuke Cola and Sunset Sarsaparillas out of this
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>>341000468
I literally couldn't care less about Shaun. As far as I'm concerned, Duncan is my step-son and I'm Daddy #2
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>>340998721
>elder scrolls city building sim
id play it desu
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>>341000903
FNAF: Fallout :^^^^))))))))))
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>>341000468
>YOU ARE A PARENT. WHAT KIND OF PARENT DOESN'T GO OUT SEARCHING FOR THEIR MISSING CHILD?

A shitty parent, which does exist. And the fact that you don't necessarily have to go search for the child makes it more meaningful that you did.

Like how murdering a prostitute in GTAIII is more meaningful because you didn't have to do it.
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>>340999670
>>341000103
He's gay you fucking morons.

Unlike you he isn't trapped in the past.
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>>340995885
This, the 1950s style was stupid anyway since fallout. Heck fallout originally was a salty game that the devs wished to work on wasteland.

Ive been a wasteland and fallout fan for a long long time, if i were to choose those favourite games again, i will take wasteland 1 and 2 and fallout 3 and 4.

Fuck chris abalone, fuck J.E.SJWcuck Sawyer, wtf brian fargo, bless Pete and Hail Todd and God Bless Bethesda.
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>>341000672
>Todd: Taken over by Raiders
>oh. what kind of raiders?
>Todd: Raiders
>do they have names?
>Todd: Probably. But they are Raiders.
>if they have names then why are they generic raiders? why not make them a new fact--
>Todd: because they are Raiders.
>but what separates these guys from the r--
>Todd: JUST FUCKING BUY IT!
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>>341001018
Yeah, maybe somebody actually might produce a better game than skyrim
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>>341000672
>Fallout is serious business, guys!

Fuck off.

Honestly, the shit you people put on a pedestal as "good writing" in the video game world is fucking embarrassing.
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>>340998098
I still want to try that. I'm too lazy to download an Android emulator though.
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>vaults pre-war cost hundreds of billions to make, with Vault 13 costing $645,000,000,000
>somehow the sole survivor can make his own vault with the scraps he finds lying around without any of the advanced pre-war tech needed to construct a vault
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>>341000672
You do know amusement parks were likely to exist before the Great War right?
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> There are actually people who think Fallout 4 is better then FNV
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>>341001130
I have some ideas for a mechanic that would give raiders at least some humanity. Make it so they will tell you to back off and if you don't they shoot. Also give them some random generated names so they have identity. Then you could also have people with the same last name as someone you killed say that you killed someone dear to them or something along those lines. You know something to make raiders bearable
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>>341001516
No one is denying their existence

Anon is just saying that there wont be another dlc with good story or world like in previous games
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>>340998351
There literally is you double fuck retard neanderthal.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10603/?
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>>341001674
>Thinking any fallout is good

Suck it fall fags, wasteland is the good stuff.
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I seriously don't fucking get it who gives a shit? The SS is already fucking Tony Stark

>took the Institute decades to build a teleporter and he builds on in a cave in 30 minutes from scrap

It isn't hard to imagine the schematics for the vaults are in the vaults. Some retards might look at the absurd price like >>341001380
but they're wrong and retarded because they price is only that high due to massive inflation. Do you really think a single car costing $2,000,000 was because it was worth that much?
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>>341001789
Writing has always been the basis for Fallout since the gameplay is kind of slow but the lore and story are just perfect
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>>341001703
>I have some ideas
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>>341001826
Wow, this is embarrassing. How is Bethdesa being out done by modders, the DLC looks fucking shallow compared to this.
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>>341001906
> Trying to justify this clear bullshit
nah senpai
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>>341001935
TODD NO DON'T DO IT
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>>340994885
Bethesda really doesn't give a shit about the lore that should be left to Obsidian
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>>340999190
Jesus Christ, the actual creator of the lore of Fallout had kneeled down and kissed Todd's rings, I fucking hate Bethdesa.
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> Implying Bethesda cares about you lore sperglords.

Todd will rape your favourite series into dust, the narrative is whatever he imagines it to be without reason or constraint to the established background.

Do not hold any hope.
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>>341002131
Honestly obsidian should have their own spin off series
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>>340994885
>giving a shit about fallout "lore"
it was always crap to begin with
>dude bottle cap money lmao

>>341001935
Todd is the dreamboy
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Why is Boston so barren? It makes sense in NV since it takes place in a desert but shouldn't 200 years give ample time for flora to take over again?
Also
>Grass Captcha
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Contraptions look really need, WAAAH MUH LORE where does the lore say you can't build a vault if you have the resources? No idea what Nuka World will be about but it might be like The Pitt.

Most of the shitters whining here are just salty because it isn't NV.
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>>341002421
*neat
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>>341002421
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>>341002421
>where does the lore say you can't build a vault if well it's like giving a man a metric ton of steel and asking him to make a boat. You have material but no skills or means to make it.
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>>341002418
It's just a game, stop thinking
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>>341002558
Make me faggot

>STOP HAVING AN OPINION!
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> Todd what should we put south of the Boston city?
> LOL DUNNO just make a huge fucking empty marsh field with no locations to visit
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>>341002395
Well we can only hope that they still can
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>>341002421
vaults arent made out of wood
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>>341002662
>no locations
what are you even talking about
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Didn't Vaults cost like trillions of dollars to make?

Who knew some faggot with a dog could just take some scrap metal and make his own.
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>>341002621
>You have material but no skills or means to make it.
That didn't stop the main character from shitting out water purifiers, generators, and robots.
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>>341001124
I actually always got a bit of that vibe from him but is that confirmed? It's tough to tell with geeky straight guys sometimes.

Either way he's a qt.
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>>340996220
>ALL OF THE COUNTRY'S INDUSTRY AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESTROYED
>NO CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE
>NO MAJOR RESOURCES AVAILABLE
>LIMITED MANPOWER
>HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
>STRUGGLE FOR BASIC NEEDS IS REAL

YEAH LET THEM JUST GET RIGHT TO BUILDING YOUR MULTI MILLION DOLLAR VAULT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WASTE LAND, NO PROBLEM.
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>>341001126
>This, the 1950s style was stupid anyway since fallout.

Fuck you. You bitch tits, cock biting, dick weasel pickle harmer. The 50s thing is cool. It makes Fallout stand out from more generic post-apoc games. Without it, the games would just be Mad Max with lame mutants and no cars.
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> Want to recreate a segment of a vault, one of the most highly advanced underground facilties of the near future?
> get hit me up with 5kg of wood, rubber and steel i'll make it perfectly fa.m

JUST
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>>341002642
Not an argument
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>>341002825
that is an issue upon itself. if those were barred off by you having to find someone or something to allow you to build those things instead of you just knowing how to build shit then I wouldn't have an issue
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That'll be $10 please, plus tip.
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>a bunch of overweight manchildren upset about their LAWR

yeah todd will get right on fixing it for you lmao
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>>341002418
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11121/?
might sate you
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>>340998098
mmmm. thikk
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>>340994885
No it doesn't. There isn't any lore saying that building vaults is a lost technology or some bullshit.

It's just very hard to do, requires a lot of resources and manpower and would be a ridiculous undertaking for one guy.

Then again, so would building an entire settlement's worth of buildings, killing an entire stronghold filled with Super Mutants by yourself or single handedly beating a Deathclaw to death with your bare hands.

However you have always been able to build settlements in Fallout 4 and you have always been unrealistically badass and powerful in every single Fallout game. Even in Fallout 1 you could beat a Deathclaw down barehanded with the right build and levels and destroying an entire stronghold of Super Mutants was the main quest despite the idea of 1 person doing these things being preposterous.


It's unrealistic. However it's not lore breaking and doing unrealistic shit is kind of par for the course in an RPG.
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>>340999238
>easter eggs
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>>341003078
Why are you even here?
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>>341001703
>You know something to make raiders bearable

In New Vegas some of the raiders belonged to gangs. There was no story for them. Instead of just "raiders" some of them were called "Vipers." It broke up monotony. They should have just created 4 generic gangs and split the generic raiders up into them, with different gangs holding different turfs in the wasteland.

The names wouldn't even have to be that good or clever.

>The Deathriders
>The Rats
>The Bluebloods
>The Hat Party Men
>The Pickle Ticklers

Anything but raiders.
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>>341003225
to laugh at you shitters getting assmad at every single thing bethesda does
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>>341002885
THEN HOW DOES VAULT CITY EXIST THEN YOU DOUBLE NIGGER
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>>341003324
VAULT CITY WAS A PRE WAR VAULT THAT WAS BUILT UPON USING THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE G.E.C.K YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
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>>341003324
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_Creation_Kit
Fallout 4-man doesn't have a GECK.
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>>340994885
>lore
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>>341001335
good news, its coming to pc
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>>340994885
>CURRENT YEAR
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>>341003324
the purpose of the control vaults was for them to be able to use the vault supplies to rebuild on the outside shady sands did that with a fucking geck it's just ass ravaged nerds who don't know their own lore
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Take the money you want to spend buying DLC 4 and 5 and go to the nexus or other site an donate it to a moder that did the same thing.
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>>341002418
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>>341003319
well we are giving constructive criticism of the game and how to improve it.
and you can't really say you had no issue with fallout 4.
say what YOU think is wrong with the game
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>>341003182
>It's unrealistic
ya but continuity and realism are two different things
If you could build an entire vault with scrap then fallout 1 would make no sense
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>>341003494
>>341003496
How do you know he doesn't have one? Vault Tec didn't use one to build their vaults. The only reason you didn't see people building their own giant science vaults is for shit like permits and paying workers which is where all the money went do you think they really spent millions on steel?
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>>341003324
Vault City is a pre-existing Vault you fucking cu ck. get the fuck out and actually play the games.
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>>341003607
>let's just shit all over the place with green shit XDDD
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>>341003671
because bethesda hasnt released it yet you stupid cooch

No one would buy this shitty dlc if they did
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>>341003494
THE G.E.C.K DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR MOST OF YOUR POINTS
>LIMITED MANPOWER
AND
>HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
BEING EXAMPLES
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>>341003072
seriously wt is the point of this? what could you possibly build with this shit that would benifit you
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>>341003513

Ladders are pretty rare in real life, outside of maintenance work or industrial jobs.

Nobody would build a settlement with ladders.
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>>341003512
That's kind of cool. I can't imagine I'll get more than an hour or two out of it, but it'll be neat to see what all the fuss was about at last.
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>>340998098
>>341003175
Kek, I fucking love this game
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>>341003671
> gets blown the fuck out
> b-b-b-but guise what a-about

ayy lmao
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>>341003513
>tfw modders can do ladders but bethesda can't
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/47953/?
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>>341003784
YOU DONT NEED MAN POWER WITH THE GECK
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>>341003607

That looks great, but I'm still not buying Fallout 4.>>341003671
>do you think they really spent millions on steel?
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>>341000057
yes
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>>340997847
>universally panned

It's like you don't know what those words mean.
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>>341003632
And if everyone was as badass as the player character in any given Fallout game Super Mutants, Deathclaws and every other dangerous creature in the wasteland would have been destroyed by ridiculously overpowered humans and the entire series would make no sense.

There is no difference. You are the main character, you get to do unrealistic shit that if everyone could do it would break the world. That is how it has always been.
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>>341003864
those ladders teleport you. that is not climbing.
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>>341003828
Not even the same guy if you think everyone who disagrees with you is the same person you should fuck off to (((reddit))).

Give me real and tangible PROOF that only Vault Tec has the magic resources to build a vault.
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>>341003671
>permits in the waste land

too retraded, tone it down.
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>>340994885
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
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what purpose does any of this serve
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>>341004036
>this is a legit tweet
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this premise is so fucking dumb unless its some type of simulation or some shit.

lol hahah guys come right in, just wear these suits htere hahaha. yeah let me make industrial materials from wood and steel hahaha its easy!
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>>341001906
Alright you fucking dipshit let's look at some numbers. Fallout 3 shows advertisements for a car at $1,000,000. Let's say that those car shown for that much weren't regular cars, they were luxury cars. Like a Mercedes-Benz SL Roadster, priced at $87,000. That means every dollar then is worth 8.7¢ today. So let's apply that to the vault cost. In today's price, it would cost $56,115,000,000 to build one vault.

Fuck off.
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>>340994885
Implying that it won't be a vault template that you can interact with. It would make total sense that Vault-tec created a new technology to design and create vaults faster, but only got to create one prototype before the end.

Hell it might even be a vault that was designed to be built by the lone dweller assigned to that vault. Imagine if they wanted to see what a human could design for a home if it was all alone, but had limitless resources to create its own home...

Who am I kidding, it will probably be some shitty "We are descendants of the original vault builders, help us and we teach you how to make steel beams and rivets from scratch.

The point is that someone COULD easily make it work within the story and setting of the Fallout series, but they probably won't...
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>>341004017
IT IS THE SAME GUY YOU FAT CUNT

>not even the same guy but heres how little i know about the GECK

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_Creation_Kit
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>all these nexus kind of dlc mods you have to pay for
>next expansion you going to a fucking theme park.

im just gonna replay new vegas again if you dont mind.
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>literally charging for snap n build and clutter mods that have been out for over 6 months
>bethdrones WILL defend this
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>>340994885
>there's literally already a mod that does this
That's the issue with the slow-drip workshop mods, modders get it done faster.
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>>341003671
>do you think they really spent millions on steel?

The materials would cost a lot. The vaults are obviously made from pre-fab. This would save money pre-war but it means that the vaults are made from pieces of steel formed into exact shapes. The casting and forming of the steel pieces would be impossible with wasteland resources. The curved sheet metal, the steel beams, the piping, railings. You can't produce all that by hand. Those are made by industrial machinery that is made by industrial machinery that is made by industrial machinery.

A scrap metal shack is one thing. I've built shacks out of scrap before. It's easy. A underground vault is beyond impossible.
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>>341004036
i have a soft spot in my heart fir tod but pete hines is a fucking dick
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Actually looks cool, conveyor belts or whatever spawned all that crap being put onto the belts look like they could be useful
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>>341000672
i wonder if they'll have the creator of nuka cola's head in cryo storage
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>>341000261
>you dont actually make a vault
>just rooms in a big underground cube
>the mod is still better
>even I can make vaults in my xbone

Fucking Bethesda
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>>341001294
>it's okay to go against story structure and lore because it's videogaymes xD

This is you.
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>>341004018
Where did I say wasteland? Did Vault Tec work in the wasteland. You got one thing right you are too "retraded".

>>341004218
Contrary to your retarded idea not everyone who thinks you're retarded is the same person, it just so happens that a lot of people hold that opinion of you. PROVE THAT ONLY VAULT TEC COULD BUILD VAULTS.

>>341004261
Materials would still be less than permits, contracts and wages. You can even fucking see the equipment you would probably have used to build it in the promo.
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>>341002890
He's right you know.
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>>341001703
I YIELD
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Critique thread has delved into complete baitposting.
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>>341004417
Materials would still cost a fuckton you imbecile. Give me a % on how much you think materials amount to in the total budget of a vault
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>MUH LORE
Why are western gamers so autistic?

Most Jap devs make shit up as they go and run with it and nobody complains as long as it's cool.
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>>341003124
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11121/?

God bless this mod. Actually makes the environment more realistic.
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>>341004549
On the structure probably only 20%.
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>>341004293
USEFUL FOR WHAT

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS CRAP EVEN ACCOMPLISH
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>>341003864
>>341003979
This one has a climbing feature.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61824/?
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>>340998201
>>340997750
There is a mod you can download that adds an old pre-war sub that lets you fast travel around the waters of FO4, but nothing that lets you build a vault.

Also, the people that bought the season pass mostly bought it for $30 before the price jump to $50. This means that those people will be able to have the DLC that a lot of interesting mods will probably be built on.

Can you imagine Elianora given an entire fucking vault to do with as she pleases? Chairs will have wet seats in anticipation of people's excitement at the mods... so long as there still are mods after so many pirates have been stealing things from the nexus and posting them on bethnet as their own creations.
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>>340997695
Never played fallout. Shit looked kinda fun.

isn't that what games are about, Anon? Fun?
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>>341004227
>todd people keep complaining about the lack of farms in the capitol wastes
>just make the player make their own farms

>todd people keep complaining about how our games feel like theme parks
>then just give them a theme park dlc
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>>341004891
You are wrong. There absolutely is a mod that lets you build vaults
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>>341004479
Yeah, would also be nice if surrendering enemies would actually you know, surrender.

Either run away and never come back or drop your weapon and actually give up.

Really pissed me off ever since they started doing that in Skyrim, they surrender only to turn around and attack you almost immediately afterwards despite the situation not having changed at all.
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>tfw this is your first fallout game and have really been enjoying it..
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>>341004654
Great. A fucking vault costs 645 billion dollars to make. >>341004206 says that equals around $56,000,000 dollars in today's cash. That's still $11,200,000 for just the materials.
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>>341004898
>FUN

NO FUN ALLOWED ONLY LORE REEEEEEEE
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The biggest mistake i did was buying the game on PS4

I always thought they fixed all the issues consoles had with their games:
The bugs, glitches, game breaking bugs, the horrid control.

Nothing i mean the game is ugly as fuck.
I dont care for anybody, every character in the game is lazy written, has stiff animations and every location is just lazy designed

Why the fuck would somebody hoard caps in a pre war safe?
Whats the point? Why is there pipe guns in pre war safes?
Why are settlers settling 40 meters way from a raider headquarter?

Why are brick building not destroyed yet to reuse their bricks?
How can building made out of wood still existant after 200 years?
Why is every faction in Fallout 4 so shitty?
Why are the Minuteman givig away the sam quests over and over again?
Why is the Railroad so god damn useless and inconsistant in their goals?
Why is the base building even implemented if i cant change hills for example? Its a chore to build anything at all because its floating or submarging in dirt.

I liked Fallout 3 ( Collector Edition ) and NV but Fallout 4 is shit and i cant wait to have the Platin trophy so i can sell it
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Fallout as the original 2 games have been fucking over for a long time.

We're fucking lucky as fuck that New Vegas actually made it out and at least there was a modicum of lore and story from the two previous games available in it.

NV with all it's flaws is the swansong of original Fallout, it won't be long before Bethesda decides to do their own games out west and start to really fuck with the lore.

It's only a matter of time, seriously. But at the end of the day F1 and 2 are still available to play, maybe one day someone like inXile or Obsidian will have the budget to make another Wasteland game or something very similar to it and the old Fallouts
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>>340999560
The commonwealth is full of mannequins and they still create a new one fo displays.
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>>341004891
>nothing that lets you build a vault.
>I don't even read the threads I post in
ftfy
see >>340999082
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reminder that there are literally HUNDREDS of FREE mods to let your build mode autism run wild with and they have been out for over 6 months and if you actually pay for this shit you should be culled.
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>>341004995
Thats because you never got to experience a good fallout game
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>>341004995

consider suicide
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>>341004417
>Materials would still be less than permits, contracts and wages. You can even fucking see the equipment you would probably have used to build it in the promo.

But the materials still have to come from somewhere. The vaults have to be made of pre-fab parts that are assembled on site. Giant steel girders, thick sheet metal, bracing, tubes. A lot of the vaults are are rounded in cross section. This requires thick, cast pieces of steel to form the body, reinforced with girders that are specifically made to fit. Then there is wiring, plumbing, ventilation, etc.

You can't make that on site. It makes no sense. Even accounting for the gameplay to be fun, it makes no sense to build a replica of a pre-war vault. The cost in man hours, toil and materials wouldn't outweigh the utility.

The difficulty in producing the materials to create a reproduction of a pre-war vault is a much greater limiting factor than pre-war contracts, permits and wages.

If they were just digging Viet-cong tunnels with wooden and steel beams it would make way more sense.
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>>341001126
If yhe fiftys style is so shit in your eyes why the fuck do you like 3 or 4? Since in those games it was pretty much as culture stood completely still in such an odd way that people still act like its the 50s all along even after fucking centurys.
You better be ine baiting mother fucker cause if nit you just hella dumb fir picking that as a big thing to dislike about it.
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>>341005235
90% of the stuff in the workshop dlc isnt done by mods though

link me a SINGLE mod that has animal cages pre WW

link me a SINGLE MOD that has a completely new tileset with unique snap points, triangular floor pieces, angled walls and circular pieces.
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>>341005235
Is there a mod that lets me make a base in that one gunner camp on top of the freeway? I'm still mad that wasn't one to begin with. It even has a fucking workbench/power armor station for fuck's sake
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>>340994885
you all say "muh lore"
none of you say "vault of 999 women and me as overseer"
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>>341005496
you can make any cell in the game buildable with just console commands.
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>>341005063
>NO FUN ALLOWED ONLY LORE REEEEEEEE

If you aren't going to adhere to the theme of the game in a consistent way why even bother with one?

Just make everything random colours, don't have a story, no characters and you go around launching purple cubes at prism enemies and collect shit. That should be pure, unadulterated fun.
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So is the new dlc part of the season pass?
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>>341004601
haha yeah dude fucking nerds lolz
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Would you play a SS13-like game but in a Fallout universe Vault?
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>>341004417
>Its an "I make sure i respond to every anon like my opinion matters" poster

Wow something something reddit.

Since you have no idea what vaults are, why they were made, and what they actually do heres a link

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki

Now youll look like less of a dumbass and leave the thread! its a win win!
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i think i might actually be going insane

who the fuck plays a game so they can place generic assets with no gameplay value in a literal wasteland

like with minecraft i can kinda see the point because it's sufficiently granular that you can make stuff out of your autism blocks that represents a shape other than itself

but this is literally just as interesting as downloading assets from the unity store and playing dollhouse with them
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>>341005235

its a pretty obvious how shit the game and his fans are if the most downlaoded mods consists of grafical enhancement and building shit
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>>341005748
yes
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>>341005841
>who the fuck plays a game so they can place generic assets with no gameplay value in a literal wasteland

Sometimes I get fatigued from the constant wasteland battling. Anywhere you go you are attacked by raiders or supermutants or ferals or scorpions. So it's nice to settle in and design your house to wind down.

I decorated my living spaces in FO3 and NV.
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>>341002356
or maybe he just realises that consistent Lore isn't as important as autismlords make it out to be.
just keep the big details that actually happened in-game consistent and almost anything that wasn't actually seen in game it doesn't matter if it gets changes
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>>341005841
>but this is literally just as interesting as downloading assets from the unity store and playing dollhouse with them

that's the best part. ship an incomplete game and give players the ability to make stuff, then charge money for more parts so players improve upon the game (for free) and then steal their ideas and put them in the next pay dlc. bethesda is getting ready to surpass blizzard in the trickery department.
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>>341005748

sure but i doubt something like that could ever happen

ss-13 works because it's an open sourced community driven game, with people actively working on it and changing it all the time

rarely are two servers ever the same and it adds to the fun of playing that damn game imo

i'm not sure anyone will ever be able to encapsulate it into another game
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>>341006024
but it all looks the same
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>>340996287
new vegas is the skyrim of the fallout universe ie the most popular
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>>341006024
Not him, but you didn't understand his post at all. And you know, even fallout 3 had some unique shit to decorate with while fallout 4 has absolutely nothing
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>>341005235
>all that idle scenery

Holy shit fallout 4 is such a static piece of shit. no one ever uses garnies, uses a typewriter, cooks, or does any real interaction with their environment except Sleep, hammer stuff, pretend to work at work benches, eat magic food that pops up when it needs to, and sit.

And people wonder why theres so much hate on this game, its fucking weak.
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>>340999082

what the fuck i hate bethesda now
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>>341006173
Consult a doctor, poor guy
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>>341005325
What if they're phony vaults? Everything is all thin sheet metal, and wood painted to look like metal.
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>>341005063
without lore you could
>put the BOS in any location
>put super mutants in any location
>put deathclaws in any location
>you can basically invalidate the whole entire series, which is what fallout 4 did .
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>>341003496
>heck is fucking magic
Jesus fucming Christ I hate you Todd. These children even believe you.

It was a fusion cell, encyclopedia, and some seed packets. It was a fucking joke that vault tec threw in but didn't expect to really be that helpful.
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>>340998793
Seeing as how most of the story and such in Bethesda games is garbage anyway, is that such a bad thing?
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>>341000672
>We will never see post apocalyptic gangs in Fallout, based off of fast-food chains.

Jdimsa
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>>341002356

it's not so much kneeling down and more so that there's nothing he can do about it man

avellone himself never worked on fallout 1 and was co-director of 2 with tim cain

interplay made a number of increasingly poor business decisions that led to zenimax buying the franchise once they declared bankruptcy
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>>341006041
>consistent Lore isn't as important as autismlords make it out to be

Take a good look at this fag.
This is the type of person that game devs cater to now.
They only care about THE BIG DETAILS because thinking about stuff that is not in your face is too hard for these retards.
I want casuals to leave my hobby alone.
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>>340996287
God, Obsidian fags are such faggots.
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>>340999082
Here's the difference: mod authors are going to make their mods work with the DLC because it's offical and not the mod because most of them haven't even heard about it

The mod is also an entirely new vault, as where this is built inside of 111
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>>340996220
>How the fuck is building a vault post-war non lore friendly?

How about the fact that building a vault underground would require an insane amount of manpower and technology that isn't there any more, and vault-tec doesnt exist anymore.
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>>341004479
skyrim mercy/yield like mod for f4 when?
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>>341004990
but at least there's mods for that for skyrim :
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11932/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7252/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50292/?

someone needs to port this shit to f4.
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>>340995789
but vertibirds existed prewar
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>>341006783
Why are you here?
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>>340997238
>casuals talking game engines
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>>341006173
>most popular

That's not fallout 3.
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>>341005748
>>341006108
>Get assigned to Water Purification
>Pumping clean water and clearing out Radroaches
>Retard from Manufacturing comes in and starts stripping down the machines for parts
>Whatthefuck.png
>Knock him out and drag him to Hydroponics
>Feed his ass to the Spore Plants
>Shitcurity comes and throws me in the brig for murder
>Raider Spy uses the lapse in security to let a bunch of Deathclaws into the Vault
>Vault tries to evac through the Overseers tunnel
>Get killed by Bottlecap Mines
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>>340994885
Where's my torrent?
>>
everything is better
when you experience it
in a vault
though
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>>341002885
More importantly, why?

For what purpose does a vault serve? They were made to survive a bomb, but without a bomb, there's way better ways to make a society.
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>>341007490
For?
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>>341001703
>ideas
I wanted a religion/belief/sanity system.
You pick a religion or make one.
You get some perks and some conditikns you need to do or triggers or something.

Like, you horde prewar tech. You lose sanity every time you break down something prewar. You gain sanity every time you scavenge something. Etc.

You need to keep this up to function optimally, start taking penalties .

Or you're a raider. You need to kill people and hang them on meat hooks and take drugs.
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the lore was already dead. feels bad.
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>>341000672

LE NUKA MEME REMEMBER GUYS?

LE THUMBS UP MAN!

WANNA SHOOT SOME GUNS MADE OF DRIFTWOOD AND RUST?


Fuck Im so disappointed with Fallout 4. Bethesda has no idea why people liked their games in the first place.
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>>341003802

>Nobody would build a settlement with ladders.

And nobody would build settlements in 90% of the fucking places that one can build settlements in in Fallout 4. Or would they build shitty ass walls and not fix up broken glass windows.

>Everyone knows how to use military grade laser cannons yet aren't trained in any type of carpentry

Seriously this is retarded logic.
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