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>DESIGNED FOR PLAYERS OF ALL SKILL LEVELS THEY FUCKING RUINED IT
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>DESIGNED FOR PLAYERS OF ALL SKILL LEVELS
THEY FUCKING RUINED IT
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>>340964159
>PC ONLY
THEY FUCKING SAVED IT
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>no strogg
THEY FUCKING G RUINED IIIITTTT
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>no singleplayer
FUCKING DROPPED
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>>340964475
FUCK THE STROGG
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>>340964720
YOU'RE LYING
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>QUAKE
HOLY SHIT YES
>Each character is going to have their unique set of abilities
FUCK NO
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>>340964159
Kill yourself.
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>>340964873
No fuck you.
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Good. All games should be designed with this in mind. Fuck anyone who thinks something has to be strictly for 'hardcore' gamers. Make it for everyone. Make it simple and accessible enough for new/casual players, and deep enough for dedicated serious players. That's how everything should be.
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>>340964159
the FUCKING JEWS
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>>340965132
No fuck me.
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FUCK EVERYTHING
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>>340965206
Its extremely difficult or impossible to make the same game appeal to both hardcore and casual players, and only a few specific games ever manage it.
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>>340965838
But first fuck me
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>>340965909
So games shouldn't strive for greatness? Why half-ass something to play it safe when you can try your damnedest and make something special? Even if it isn't 100% successful it's still probably a fuckload better than the game that just tried to appeal to one small group of people and shit on everyone else.
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>>340965332
>>340966009
Fuck off horny faggot
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>>340964159
I'd say Quake 3 was playable at all skill levels. I played it with some friends years ago who's only FPS games before were Halo and COD and they still enjoyed it. Just because it has a high skill ceiling doesn't mean its unplayable for new players (assuming this new game somehow has one).
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>unique characters
>abilities
anyone even remotely defending this should be banned from /v/
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>new arena shooter is released
>it's not designed for players of all skill levels
>no one fucking plays it
Wooooooow
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>>340967187
there's no such thing as an arena FPS designed for players of all skill levels

it's either designed for retarded casuals or hardcore neckbeards
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>>340966304
Overwatch exists for casual gamers, typically quake has existed for the more hardcore. There's nothing wrong with targeting a demographic.
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>>340966304
Because they are trying to make money
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>>340964159

>CHARACTER CLASSES
THEY FUCKING RUINED IT
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>>340964159
If the MP is anything like Dooms its going in the trash
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Enjoy your overquake.
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>champions

team based garbage. They blew it.
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>>340971134
Please tell me this is a ruse. I missed the whole thing, but if they fucking turn Quake into Overwatch I'm going to flip a fucking dick for sure.
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>>340972808
It would appear that way. It's literally called quake: champions
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>>340965909
Nobody was good at quake when they first played it and yet they stuck around for 15 years.
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>>340964159
Doom beta when?
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>>340973178
Nope, I'm out. I'm fucking out.

Last fucking thing we need is more Overwatch bullshit. Shit is going to be the new MOBA if we're not careful.
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>>340964159
Opposed to what? Designed for Johnathan "don't eat like a n00b" Wendel only?
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Q U A K E R W A T C H
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>>340964159
what's with these AAA dipshits and their fascination with slow boring dogshit gameplay?
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>WHAT QUAKE IS KNOWN FOR: A DIVERSE CAST OF UNIQUE HEROES WITH DIFFERING ATTRIBUTES AND ABILITIES

IM SO FUCKING MAD
HOLY SHIT FUCKING WHY

IM GONNA FUCKING GO TO BETHESDA OFFICES AND SHIT ON EVERYONE'S DESK

THEY'RE LITERALLY SHITTING ALL OVER THE HOLY GRAIL OF COMPETITIVE GAMING
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>>340964159

>Quake

>Class based

pick one
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Why does /v/ hate change? Do you really just want a quake 1 with better graphics? That's fucking lame
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At least there's still UT4, r-right?
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>>340979205
>DIVERSE
they just gotta throw that word in there every time
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>>340968576
> typically quake has existed for the more hardcore
did you forget the rtses that exist alongside quake?
quake is the pleb esport of its time. only overtime did dev find way to water down fps into cs/cod/overwatch
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Just give it time /v/ will be all over this when it comes out just like neo DOOM.
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>>340964159
So, it's going to be Quake: Overwatch edition???

FUCKING WHY??????
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>>340964159
>trailer show weapons pickup
>pc exclusive
there is still hope.
it could be quake 3 with ebin abilities
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>>340967128
Did Quake just become edgy Destiny?
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>>340980924
>quake is the pleb esport of its time
you're thinking of counter-strike
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>>340980086
>Do you really just want a quake 1 with better graphics?
Sure. Why dumb down perfection?
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>>340980086
I want them to leave old classics the fuck alone and come up with a new IP for once.
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>>340980531
Reflex

quake live with in game map editing

The jews don't want you knowing about this
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>>340974116
It's over Anon, Bethesda fucked the market up again. Hoping Valve drops TF3 or L4D3 and shits on all of them soon, but that's probably not happening either
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>>340980641
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>>340982265
>valve
>caring about vidya post 2008

>valve
>not the biggest jew of pc devs
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>>340964462
Not for long, remember overwatch? :^)
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If it has cpma movement and weapons not limited to class than its still good.
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EVERYTHING MUST BE A MOBA NOW
EVERYTHING MUST BE ESPORTS

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE THE COOLDOWN BASED ABILITIES
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>>340980641
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did they seriously make quake into a moba-like fps like overwatch?
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>>340981346
Quake became Overwatch
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i saved this image from esr 2 years ago and it's incredibly relevant now
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>>340985749
>>340985750
ayyy
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fuck everything

i hate video games
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Y'know, quake 3 is right there

like right there

you can go play it

guess what, champions isn't quake 3

so, i dunno, maybe don't just be reactionary cunts, just maybe?
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I'm definitely concerned but I think this could be cool if done properly

Basically just make Quake but give characters an active ability that's open ended to allow for some creative

If they tie weapons to character classes it's DOA

I doubt they'd do that though
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Post-stream interview just confirmed its not related to anything but "Arcane's reimagining"
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>>340986007
But I wanted new a Quake 1, not a Overwatch Quake 3.
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>>340985750
Sweet
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I didn't like Doom 4 and I don't like the look of this
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>>340981891
Go play Quake 1 then retard
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>>340986310
What part of "better graphics" do you not understand
>inb4 you move the goalpost again
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This is dumb as shit. All that's going to happen is it will come out, be a theme park game for overwatch players, who will play it for 2 weeks and then leave to go back to playing overwatch, the game will die, and then this will be taken by devs as "nobody is interested in Quake."
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>>340964159
>NO CONSOLE VERSION

dead on arrival

RIP
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>>340964475
The strogg is what ruined quake
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>/v/ was wrong about DOOM
>/v/ will be wrong about QUAKE

top lel
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>>340986707
>hero based
Defend this
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>class-based game "for all skill levels"

What the fuck happened? Doom was pretty solid if you ignore the multiplayer (which was made by Certain Affinity anyways so it doesn't count)
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>>340965206
>nothing should've catered to a certain demographic
Fuck of you commie faggot
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Why do they keep slapping old franchise names on new games, when the people who remember the original are going to hate it anyway?
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>>340986865
That's just what they do

They make games that are remakes of old games with a modern twist to them to make them OKAY.

This is going to be Quake with overwatch abilities. It will be Okay, and possibly better than overwatch but not that great.
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>>340986707

Most of the complaints came from it being slow (which was not the case on pc) and the initially washed out color palette (which was changed.)
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>>340987009
Why do they keep making Star Trek and Star Wars movies?

Why do they reboot movie franchises that have been dead for 2+ decades?

Name recognition. And money.
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>>340987009
because if you call it a sequel you are expected to improve the game, if you just call it the same name, people are more interested and don't have any expectations except nostalgia being met.


I honestly think this is why they're doing this with all the new games. And shit like the XBOX one
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>>340987187
They sped up Doom 4's move speed considerably from the 2015 trailer.

Providing feedback is a good thing.
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>no console version
instant 7/10
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>>340986707
>/v/ will be wrong about doom and quake

Doom is fun but it's only fun because it took a proven formula and made it mediocre with modern stuff stacked onto it. Quake will just be the same shit. It will be fun but there will be a large amount of glaring flaws that you can attribute to modern game design.
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IF YOU FUCKING WANT TO PLAY THE SAME FUCKING GAME JUST COME WITH ME TO PLAY QUAKE LIVE LIKE I DO ALMOST EVERY FUCKING DAY, SO STOP BEIGN SO FUCKING STUPID.

I want a new game with new mechanics if i wanted the same game i just play the same fucking game for fuck sake, fucking retardeds.
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>>340987009
Because millennials pretending to be older than they really are online and to have played old games has been the trendy thing for a while. Rebooting classics like this lets them pat themselves on the backs and say "I'm so old school, of course I have to buy this"
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>>340986841
If it isn't team focused where a hero has to rely on another to fucking do shit like tf2 than it will be alright. Quake is mainly a 1v1 game, there is not much info but "class-based" might mean some shit similar to fighting games.
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>>340985779
holy fuck thats gold thanks made my night man.
They shit all over Quake so bad with Quake 4. I ran into old Quake 2 players I used to play with but the game just didnt have the feel. And the hand grenades werent in it the one and only game ever created where hand grenades took skill. They did have class based mods for quake 2 and even an RTS where you summon monsters. But to base Quake 4 purely on a class based game.. idk man it feels wrong like Quake 3 felt wrong. I'll cross my fingers they release an add-on that will include GX mod basic ffa death match ctf and rocket arena. And maybe even single player which would be awesome with VR
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Reminder that Quake 3 was designed without any forms of advanced movement in mind purely because Carmack didn't like it.
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Why does nuQuake have to be anything other than just running through levels picking up weapons and powerups to kill monsters?
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STRAFE JUMP LITERALLY JUST MEANS "YOU HAVE AIR CONTROL"

THAT IS IT

YOU CAN USE STRAFE KEYS WHILE JUMPING

EVEN IF IT WAS ONLY 0.0000001% EXTRA MOVEMENT IT'S STILL A STRAFE JUMP

IT SAYS _NOTHING_ RELEVANT EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AND CASH IN ON IT SUPERFICALLY

IT IS AN APRORI THAT IT WILL NOT BE IN BECAUSE SHITTERS GET OWNED SO HARD NO BUSINESS WOULD EVER ALLOW IT

JUST LIKE THEY WILL NEVER ALLOW PC VS CONSOLE FPS PLAY


YES I AM MAD

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY

I AM CORRECT/.
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>No single player
Bye bye Q1 and 2 fans

>It's a hero shooter
Bye bye Q3/live fans

>We want to compete with Overwatch instead of making the only arena shooter out
DOA
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>>340989479
With the time it'll take to come out it should be able to pick up anyone leaving/left overwatch.
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>>340986007
kill yourself
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>quake 1 you press jump and strafe to gain speed

>somehow this is not strafe jumping

?

reminder that bunnyhopping only refers to _repeated_ jumps, not a _single_ jump, which is what a strafe jump is
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>it's a multiplayer arena shooter

I just wanted a fucking quake game. A real one.
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>>340989309
that is incorrect

bunny hopping is storage of momentum
strafe jumping is increase of momentum
air control is change of momentum
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>>340964475
Strogg are garbage. Eldritch horrors in castles erryday.
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well guys, they will take it to quakecon and if anybody is going to rail on it it is going to be the autistic faggots who go to quake con... with the team doubling down on esports with this game, they will give the community what it wants.

mark my words we will have bhop, we will have storage, we will have air control... we will have all of it i guarantee, even though they want to make it easy to get into they have to foster an esport around this game. they fail, no matter how many copies they sell they will fail if they fail to get their investment out of the esport aspect

even though they fucked up doom, it was still at least better than 99% of the garbage that has come out in the last 12 years, so i have decent hopes for the new quake. even if it is not as good as q3a it will most likely still be better than all of the garbage competitive FPS out there, specially overwatch, csgo, and whatever else there is.
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>>340989309
:_:
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FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRAFE JUMPING AND BUNNY HOPPING HERE IS A VIDEO DEMONSTRATION.

First I STRAFE jump to the other japanese castle

then I BUNNY HOP around in front of it.
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Brink 2
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>they could have just made jumping build up speed and built the game around high momentum build up and killing people that didn't control it properly
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>>340965051
blizzard drone or just easily impressionable by trailers? they literally confirmed its gonna be garbage themselves. long gone are the days of wonderful movement mechanics like the ones shown by this gentleman >>340992235
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Im mad, im actually mad.
Why are they doing this, why are they butchering my childhood memories?
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>>340992107
Sponge pls. Stop trying to innovate, it didn't work in QL and will not work in Champions.
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>>340992235
And this is why Reflex/CPMA will forever be more fun to play than QL and QChampions.
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>>340992486
But the video is from Quake live, you memespouting faggot.

Quake Live is great.
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>>340992486
theres cpma servrers in quake live
check out putting "cpma" on the tags
theres like 1 in europe but its superfun when theres people
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>>340992450
None, i replied before knowing it was going to be focused on classes.

:^)
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>>340992235
a strafe jump, as defined by trickjumpers, also known as the people being things like cpma and defrag, is a jump that is further than a standard jump
it allows you to cross a gap further than you could otherwise

a bunnyhop, as defined by trickjumpers, also known as the people being things like cpma and defrag, is having your character avoid touching the floor as much as possible so that inertia can continue to grow and not be robbed by the friction of the floor
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>>340964462
they never said it was pc exclusive and i think i heard that they were coming out on xbone and ps4
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>>340992762
QL normally doesn't have bhop. You have to change rulesets to get that shit in. Normal duels in QL are not played with bhopping.


Turbo mode adds that shit in but its a worse version of cpma physics.
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>>340965042
>>340967128
>>340971134
>>340972250
>>340979205
>>340980071
>>340986841
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>>340992775
Or I could play reflex where there is constantly people on playing 1v1's with better netcode and physics than QL's shitty version of it. Not to mention better sound design, tripple jumps, better maps, better aesthetics, WAY THE FUCk better netcode.

I have not played an fps with better netcode than reflex, its insane.
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>>340992458
hey, if they actually do fuck it up... which after quake live i dont think they really will (also quake live had a good few years in it before the steam release where it was decent). at least i can say that teh soundtrack from the trailer sounds like trent reznor, and it sounds pretty good. so fuck you

also, doom wasnt bad, they learned from doom 3's failings and im sure they will learn from quake live's failings.

they know what we want, im cautiously optimistic.
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>>340982229
That requires them to not be creatively bankrupt, anon. Publishers only care about money not quality.
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>Saber Interactive worked on/developed/helped develop Quake Champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_Interactive

all my hype is gone

>tfw id went to focus on DOOM
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>>340967906
>He doesn't know about Team Fortress 2
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>>340993752
>Saber Interactive worked on/developed/helped develop Quake Champions
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>>340993571
That game will be dead for the old playerbase unless they give us optional classic mode without all the classes gimmick.
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>>340986569
Nobody is interested in Quake though
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>>340993928
>TF2
>arena FPS
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>>340993214
>Hebrew Bible 2.0
>It's a remake of the New Testament
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>>340964720
NO
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>>340994031
I'm still waiting on the no loadouts/perks Doom 4 MP.

I wouldn't hold out much hope.
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>>340964159
>overwatch comes out
>"this game would be better if vert play had a bigger role and it was slightly faster"
>Quake Champions is announced
>WORST GAME EVER

I'm honestly really fucking keen. I have Q3 and Quake Live installed, I play them from time to time.
Quake Champions will literally have Quake gameplay (picking up weapons, rocket jumping/leaping, etc.) but now we can have waifu's.

It's PC only, surely it will have custom games where we can disable character specifics.
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if they casualized it its for the better desu. it was free for long as hell and no one gave a shit. the game was dead as fuck with like 50 players at any time. it might as well get recrafted for a wider audience.
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>>340993752
FUCK

now im not that optimistic anymore
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>>340994212
>Quake Champions will literally have Quake gameplay (picking up weapons
Gonna need a source on that

>rocket jumping/leaping
Even Overwatch has this
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>>340994138
>Hebrew Bible 2.0
>It's a remake of the New Testament
>The New Testament got rid of all the barbaric bullshit of the Old Testament
>The remake of the New Testament is just the Gospel and Philosophies of Jesus.

It might be short, but it's good.
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WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TO MAKE QUAKE CLASS BASED

QUAKE DEFINED ULTIPLAYER ARENA SHOOTERS

YOU FUCKING WORK FOR YOUR GUNS AND POWERUPS, NOT SELECT IT AND JUST START OFF WITH A LIGHTNING GUN

DON'T FUCKING COPY OVERWATCH IF YOU ALREADY SET THE FUCKING STANDARD

MY RAGE WILL NEVER BE SATED, I DEMAND THE HEAD OF TODD HOWARD MOUNTED ON MY GODDAMN BEDROOM WALL
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>>340993752
>Halo: The Master Chief Collection
So the new quake will be a buggy piece of shit for the first year?
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>>340994364
>it was free for long as hell and no one gave a shit. the game was dead as fuck with like 50 players at any time. it might as well get recrafted for a wider audience.
because it was released in 1999, and people can only use the same guns on the same maps for so long
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>quakecon audience isn't automatic cheers like e3
>when they show quake champions at quakecon, they will hear the jeers
>they might have to rethink things when 70% the quake audience of the world is in front of them
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>>340994119
It's not deathmatch but it fits the description.
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Atleast they did confirm it's pc only.S peaker at the press conference described at as "class-based", I thought there was no way they could have fucked this up.
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>could have had a solid TNO/DOOM style reboot back to Quake 1 lovecraftian themes and I would have been happy
>could have had a back to basics arena shooter and I wouldve been happy
>instead get Overwatch: Fast Edition
WHO WANTED THIS
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>>340994364
Casuals abandon your game for the newest shit in the first fucking year.
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>>340994578
Whoever said anything about starting with certain guns?

All that is confirmed is that each hero will have a single ability.
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>>340986678
you are a faggot and quake 2 and 4 were fun. I'll go play painkiller if I wanna fight spooky demons.
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>>340986707
>>/v/ was wrong about DOOM
It was pretty shit in the early gameplays and even the beta though.
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>>340994943
Yeah and CoD is an arena FPS too
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>>340995005
>WHO WANTED THIS
about 10 million people that played overwatch.
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>>340995069
Quake 2 wasn't even supposed to be Quake. Because it isn't Quake. They just couldn't come up with a name for it.
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>>340993928
>Team Fortress 2
>Not designed for retarded casuals
What's that tf2 meme again? Oh yeah. 'Crits are fair and balanced.'
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>>340993296
>reflex where there is constantly people on playing 1v1's

i wish there were more players :(
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>>340993752
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_Interactive

There's no source confirming this.
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>>340965909
Like quake.
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>>340965042
I like overwatch but fuck that shit does not belong in quake.
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>>340995126
people that want blizzard games do not want things that aren't blizzard games

people that want call of duty games do not want things that aren't call of duty games

didn't we learn this before 2010?
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>>340995171
and it was still a good game. this isn't the first time in history a game ended up just having a series name slapped on it, but at least it wasn't a shit game. yeah all shitflinging aside I understand where you are coming from about changing a series but it doesn't actually make any of the strogg or space business shitty itself.
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>>340995179
I'm obviously talking about vanilla TF2 where you didn't throw piss jars and fly across the map swinging battle-axes. It became casual over time, but it was a superb middle ground between casual and hardcore for a while
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>>340995053
>All that is confirmed is that each hero will have a single ability.
Oh fuck. If they make Quake about powers on cooldown instead of guns, I'm done. I'm fucking done with video games.
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>>340994439
>Gonna need a source on that
Well I can't provide it but the trailer heavily implies that we can pick up multiple weapons and swap through them. I think it was Anarki(??) who started with a railgun, ranger killed someone and picked up his lightning gun, then we saw Anarki(??) again with... something.. and we last saw him with the Buzzsaw. As for vert play and platforming, we saw Anarki on a high platform, sniping down low with his railgun, we also saw Ranger leap from one high platform to another while dodging a railshot.

>Even Overwatch has this
I know, that's why I don't see it being an unlikely mechanic that fans could quickly grasp.
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>>340994212
1v1 is the primary competitive mode for quake, and that moba shit will ruin the symmetry of quake duels.
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>>340995725
What if everyone had one OP power that was essentially an element lifted from cheating in a video game. Like aimassist characters, wallhacks, lag teleporting, bunnyhopping, noclipping, and you basically adjust to whatever OP power they have.
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>>340995519
They can spin the Strogg shit off into a Quake:Subtitle.

I wanted more Quake 1. A new Quake 3 might have been OK.

Quakecon's going to be a shitshow.
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>>340995941
>bunnyhopping
>cheating
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>>340995187
I'll be on in a bit anon, from one Aus player to another
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>>340965909

And Quake is a series that managed it, so why should this entry in the series be any different?
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>>340995941
Creative, but I don't believe that's actually going to happen.
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>>340995053
LISTEN TO ME YOU FUCKING NIGGER

YOU NEVER NEEDED THEM IN QUAKE 1, 2, 3, 4, OR EVEN FUCKING ENEMY TERRIOTRY

QUAKE IS ABOUT GOING FAST AND BLOWING EVERYRTHING UP
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>>340995978
I'm not against more of quake 1 and 3 type material either though you know with live being a thing they are done with anything new in the vein of 3. whatever the fuck they are doing with champions however is beyond me. at least quake 2 resembled quake 1 in some ways.
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>>340995978
>Quakecon's going to be a shitshow.
Can't fucking wait
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>>340995854
That's why we disable the stats and shit? I find it hard to believe that iD would even consider releasing the game without that option.
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>>340996182
the weapon set in quake 3 is near geometric perfection
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>>340996182
Did I say otherwise?

I'm happy just playing reflex right now. I can bet Qchampions will follow suite of QL and only have strafe jumping so I'm not interested.
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>>340996334
> I find it hard to believe that iD would even consider releasing the game without that option.

I did too but then doom 2016 came out
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>DOOM MP was outsourced to Certain Affinity
>Now QUAKE MP is being co-developed (if not mostly outsourced) with Saber Interactive

Why do they keep doing this? They're just now finally fixing DOOM MP but apparently Quake Champions has to suck for a while before they realize they made a mistake and then they get to fixing it.
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>>340995790
it was visor, and they're playing on q3dm18
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>demo for doom
>only available for a week
I hope they fucked something up and this opens up a way to pirate the whole game
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>>340964159
Casual player here, fuck you.
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If its literally Quake 3 with some tacked om power ups that are predictable then shit might work. But that xray vision has to fucking go, and strafejump and air control better fucking be in.
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>>340996473
Doom 4 MP isn't going to get fixed. Loadouts and perks aren't going anywhere.
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>>340964159
Overwatch player here, I might have a new waifu. 2016 is fucking great
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>>340996736
Casual player here as well.

Fuck you, get good.
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>>340996753
>But that xray vision has to fucking go
how the fuck would you even fight that, just assume you're getting killed around every corner?
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>>340996856
>get good.
I intend to, but what I mean is I have no prior-Quake knowledge, and few competitive FPS knowledge as-well.
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>>340996886
They'd need to nerf rail hard otherwise.

You're supposed to track people in quake by the sound of HUP HUP HUP HUP
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I know what I'll pick after getting bored of Overwatch.

I'm noob at FPS games, so Babywatch was perfect for me, but it's time to get serious and play this.

I really hope is noob friendly.
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>>340996774
What makes you think that? They already confirmed classic mode as one of the three upcoming free for all modes. SnapMap also will no longer have the two weapon limit which will undeniably transfer to MP, at least for classic mode
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>>340996852
>a canon "gurl gamer" character
>in the grimdark Quake universe
This is physically painful to witness.
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>>340997130
my nigga
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>>340995236
It says right on the fucking page
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>>340980086
Honestly, I don't see why fans of arena shooters don't just play CPMA or Reflex.
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>>340997217
>Quake universe
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>>340995236
tim willits said on stream that they were working with saber interactive
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>>340997217
>litterally knows nothing about her characteer besides her blue hair and teleporting powers that probably gave her the blue hair

For all we know she could be some wizard slut who wants to dom alien men in an arena while wearing black tight fitting armor.
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>>340995187
ive been playing a bit (from na) as long as it isnt really late i can usually find a server of ffa
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>>340996473
who do you trust at current id, that you'd want to develop a new multiplayer id game?

it's not tim willits, is it?
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>>340997379
What is your issue exactly? The main character is literally a space ranger. It's safe to say there's a "universe" here.
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>>340997202
Too bad they are doing the worst type of DLC, map DLC. This will kill the multiplayer
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There was no gameplay trailer, so they can still realize their mistakes and fix it, right?
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>>340997579
It's already dead. I can't get a full game to save my life.

Also it's pretty much rocket arena now that the chaingun got nerfed and direct hit rockets got buffed.
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>Doom comes out
>its good
>"hahaha maybe Bethesda is slowly bettering themselv-"
>this gets announced
>mfw
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>>340997217
Dude, is just a woman that's all we know, do you think there aren't woman in that universe?
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>>340997217
Go look at Quake 3's character roster again.

There is literally a 'cyber punk' who rides around on a hoverboard and sees everything in virtual reality.
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>>340997519
Good point. I can't really trust anyone.
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>>340997759
forget it, /v/ is triggered by women in videogames. Its a crime to include one in any respectable manly franchise.
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>>340997759
>>340997876

Don't be intentionally dense. The multicolor hair clearly made to appeal to "gamergurls"
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>>340997701
what did they do to the combat shotgun? I haven't played recently but I know it was changed, probably nerfed I guess
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>>340997701
Then it will just be the finishing blow
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>>340997920
It appeals to my dick
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>>340997968
I couldn't determine a difference from testing but apparently it hits for less at distance and more close up.

But there's no reason to switch weapons when you have the RL.
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>>340997920
>if she has a different hair color it means it has to be related to gamer girls
It just a hair color, don't be stupid, a lot of things can happen in a different universe.
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>>340988224
Nigger youre thinking about overwatch not tf2. litterally any Character can 1 v 1 any other characterif he is skilled enough
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>>340965909
>Its extremely difficult or impossible to make the same game appeal to both hardcore and casual players, and only a few specific games ever manage it.
yeah it's called a non-retarded ranked ladder and designing for competitive environment that doesn't appease the casuals and a casual mode for well casuals
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