Is killing people better than looking at some boobs?
In other words: Why Is our culture okay with virtual murder but uncomfortable when someone gets naked?
I'm a girl btw
Killing is a gameplay mechanic
Tits aren't
Might be something to do with America's proudest historical moments being violence related. The war for independence, WW 2 etc.
come on guys, e3 is tomorrow, why do you gotta keep with your stupid american bait?
you wanted a you? here's your (you), now please, stop
>>340877047
Shooting people is hard and surviving is an objective.
Looking at tits is fun until you come and can't be enjoyed if there are multiple people in the room
Americans are inherently violent. This is why their culture accepts gore but not tits.
Not like American girls aren't major whores anyways....
If your dick is hard constantly then you can never go on a shooting rampage because it would be embarrassing to go out with a boner.
Most girls nowadays whore themselves out with the age of only 12.
Thats thanks to sexualizing everywhere (games, facebook, tv, etc..).
I dont see 12 years olds killing left and cright even though that content is muh, much older.
So, I guess boobs are worse.
But I want boobs in my games. Thats because games are shit nowadays and only perverted things are interesting
>>340877047
Maybe devs should rather have someone get violently murdered while they are getting naked or when they accidently show a heel or something
I'm pretty sure it would be okay to show naked people if you murder or beat them up at the same time
>>340877335
In any country winning a war is considered a proud historical moment.
>>340877047
Nobody gives a fuck about violence, especially since most violence in media is aimed at men. Are you objectifying a woman? You're a fucking monster. Violence against a strong, independent female character? There's nothing worse.
>>340877047
Since women are basically stupid and incompetent, and males are easily satisfied, traditional civilization is a gynocentric matriarchy where sex is a controlled substance and men have to dance like trained dogs to acquire it and serve the wasteful parasite woman class.
Promotion of violence in service of the state is useful for military recruiters.
>>340877498
>all americans are inherently violent
Such a stupid thing to say.
>>340877174
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>>340877047
Killing is fun but looking at boobs turns me into a monster which won't respect wiminz.
>>340877396
Some people might say watching their friend run around killing people in GTA makes them uncomfortable. And others might even say they pitch a tent when they kill people in games hahah
Can I have that on a t-shirt?
>>340877264
They can be.
Violance
Erotic shit just make me want to jack off every 20 minutes
>>340877047
The way I see it, killing is a primal instinct that humans have. It's embedded in our DNA for survival. It releases chemicals in our body that make it feel stimulating. The exact same thing is true about sex. Why sex is more taboo right now, I can't say. They both seem equally animalistic.
Titties are the devil
>>340877992
*tips fedora*
I can already have sex irl, there's no need to do it in a game. I can't kill irl so I'll do that in a game.
titties are fine, but a benis isn't
>>340877047
Assuming "our" means "American", a country founded on violent revolution and whose greatest moment on the global stage was ending a worldwide war against what was at least one of - if not the - most reviled organizations in world history through a show of military force is bound to glorify righteous violence. From there it's not much of a stretch to glorification of violence in general through whatever justification is most appropriate in context.
You can blame Puritanical roots feeding into continued government dogmatization of religious text calling for general chastity despite legal rulings deeming them necessarily separate for the rest.
>>340879820
it just can be erect, GTA V had full front male nudity
>>340877047
I want both desu
>>340877047
In media there's a reasonable balance of stories where killing is glorified and those where killing is vilified. There's not really an equivalency for sexual content. Sex appeal is rampant, and anything promoting abstinence is a joke. Makes sense that parents would desperately try and delay their kids from thinking about fucking each other.
>>340880312
first video game peen I ever saw. unless its a poop. but them I'm all like... wheres his peen?
>>340879329
>Killing Connor and fucking this bitch
Every single time.
>>340877047
Because if a kid or young teen asked about violence EVERYBODY would say it's an absolute no!
But if it asked about sex, then a lot of them would mention that there's nothing wrong about it and to perhaps go around experimenting. Parents get worried that their children might become perverts.
Maybe that's why.
Maybe because hot virtual women make women feel insecure about their looks.
*shrugs*
>>340880560
Rockstar doesn't have any problems showing the penis.
Violence (not ultra violence) is just a consequence of conflict. Every story has to have a conflict.
Nudity in vidya is absolutely unnecessary
Why not both? Sexy naked women being violated and beat up
>>340877047
idk about video games
but with tv and movies the violence isn't real, the boobies usually are
I don't think most guys would care if the showed naked imaginary men in games.
Women are insecure about attractive imaginary women in games, though.
>>340877047
Puritan influence and salty bitches.
Pro-tip; depictions of female pleasure escalate ratings more than depictions of male pleasure.
>>340880726
>not killing Isolde
>>340881405
the boobies in video games is definitely not real.
>>340881614
then it's just stupid all around
Because many women feel alienated by overly sexualised female characters, viewing them as an objectification of their gender which puts them off games they might have otherwise enjoyed.
>>340879113
Don't do it, anon. That thing has a shelf life.
Gun is good, penis is evil!
>>340881813
Nah it's because they feel threatened when males spend more time ogling dem virtual titties instead of paying attention to them,
>>340881813
But violence is much worse.
It's like objectifying a person to be killed in very brutal ways. The sole purpose of many of these characters is to be hated, defeated, ridiculed, humiliated and more.
Male players don't feel alienated by this.
Imagine being a fat fuck girl, not that uncommon in America I suppose. Anyways I guess they want some of that penis loving but they see the non chads, the only guys they might be able to get, are drooling over perfect 2D bodies. So they whine and whine.
Just like how parents need to blame something when their kids mess up and the fault is actually with the parents but they just blame the games.
The fat chick could lose weight and the parents could try to find out why their kids are trying to escape but they choose the easy way.
>>340877264
how is killing a gameplay mechanic?
moving a crosshair or aiming or something might be a gameplay mechanic, but I think you can have the same mechanics that are present in games where you kill people in a game that does not involve killing
>>340880873
>*shrugs*
>>340882240
Because it's not necessarily a specific group that the target of this. Sure, there's considerably more men than women as enemies in video games but aside from that... Let's say, if a disproportionate amount of enemies in video games were, say, black a lot of black people would probably be kinda put off.
>>340878047
Woah there buddy, violent much? please don't go shooting up a school because someone said something on the internet.
>>340877047
I raped a grill 5 years ago because she had purple hair. I called Ayane the whole time and then took her cell phone and left her in another county.
Video games made me this way.
>>340882214
This is correct, same reason feminists want to ban research into sexbots
>>340877047
>''our'' culture
You mean american.
>>340882743
we need indiscriminate killing and indiscriminate sex among all peoples and animals and potted plants of this world!
Say it with me: double standards.
Killing in video games gives you satisfaction; the end.
Boobs in video games gives you a boner; you seek out a way to resolve it.
Parents get offended at the latter.
>>340882991
Western culture.
>>340881610
>not outright murdering them all
>>340882796
Nigger i want to do the same but with a blonde loli and pretend it's marie rose, thankfully sweden will welcome me with open arms and the rape will be only a minor offense because i'm brown enough to count as a shitskin.
>>340883359
Alright, Morrigan, get your bitch ass back to camp.
>>340883225
No?
Here in The Netherlands/Western Europe virtual nudity is not ''less okay'' than virtual murder.
It's only you americans that for some reason have a problem with boobs.
>>340882743
>not necessarily a specific group
Matter of perspective.
It can be easily argued that men are the targeted group to be painted badly.
I'd like to know a game concept where erotica makes sense. I can only see it as a narrative concept.
Something like the butt fighting in DoA or any mini-game in DoA could easily be replaced with any character and put in a mario party style game.
>>340881813
A dildo is a literal objectification of a male dick and males don't care.
Males are the freedom party, females are the state party, because females rely on male enslavement.
>>340883591
Are there celebrated AAA games centered around sex there? The erotic equivalent to Battlefield or Uncharted? *genuinely curious*
>>340883858
Your girl/boyfriend got a dildo and prefers it to your dick. How do you feel now!?
>>340883831
Porn games.
>>340877047
you can buy guns but not sex
>>340884236
This would literally never happen outside of a doujin.
>>340877047
For one, virtual murder isn't even always that comfortable. If you're made to empathize with characters, then emotionally it's more difficult to just "end them". A lot of the times however, enemies in games have no identity, no humanizing qualities, no family, friends and they exist solely to kill you. In that case it's much easier if they basically aren't human to you.
>>340880873 was onto something with >Because if a kid or young teen asked about violence EVERYBODY would say it's an absolute no!
Violence, unlike sex is very clear cut to most people, easily defined and easier to create borders around. Sex by comparison is far more complex, and feelings about it vary wildly from person to person. It's far more humanizing, harder to define and harder to have known boundaries for.
Sex, is just more personal than random violence, so people more easily become personally uncomfortable.
>>340877047
because there is no spaghetti dropping when it comes to violence
>>340885802
not him but my fiance has an unbearably small penis
i love him anyway but a dildo is usually better at hitting my prostate
>>340877047
Violence is glorified in America, so shit like Manhunt is considered okay while Japan has video game laws specifically banning the depiction of decapitation or having limbs flying off because they see it as tasteless. And that rule can get circumvented by zombies and vampires.
Since squeakers have invaded Halo and GTA in the west, due to M-rated games being the norm now, and because most parents have idea that video games are exclusively for teens and kids who are not mentally mature, they tend to go apeshit over sex stuff. Not that it helps because approx 35% of all children in America will be exposed to pornography or sex before they turn 16 by the year 2020. And that's nothing to say of America being the number 1 distributor and producer of porn worldwide.
Japan on the other hand deems porn harmful to the public mind, so selling it is very illegal there while owning it is not, though they still have to censor it if they don't want the law coming after them. Everytime I see a nip game with sexual stuff, I have to remind myself that they're really just a bunch of thirsty dogs who live in a country with censored porn.
>>340885321
Unless you live in Nevada lmao
>>340886153
>Not that it helps because approx 35% of all children in America will be exposed to pornography or sex before they turn 16
Only 35%? Not at least 90% of them?
>>340877047
America as a country has a very fucked up moral compass thanks to its incredibly strict religious roots and over time we've reinforced it more than we've changed it. Whatever anyone else is saying in this thread is just a product of that; other countries don't give two shits about sexualization but are much stricter about violence.
>>340886153
>selling it is very illegal
Bull fucking shit
>>340886153
I can believe some of that. Look at South Korea, where porn is banned, everything they produce is oozing with sexual over/undertones. All of their games and music are filled with scantily clad women because it's the next best thing.
>>340877992
I agree with the general gist of what you're saying, but Esther Vilar herself said that women are no less capable than men, which makes it all the worse that they choose to perpetuate the current system.
>>340886137
I guess there are extreme cases then. Consider me disproved.
>>340877047
Because the virtual murder only happens to men, and our culture loves male disposability.
>>340886561
I go there for work around summer time you can buy it at every convenience store. Japan is nothing like these weebs think it is.
>>340885867
I like your point. I feel like it is about framing as well. Like you say, if someone is given humanity, killing them is much more uncomfortable and probably intended to be that way by the content creator. The same can be said for sex as well. True that it is very personal and complex in reality but in a game it would be simplified. Much like the soldiers created to kill you, the sex interest is made to only want to have sex.
>>340886592
Tattoos too and video games are frowned upon.
>>340881524
Of course, depictions of male pleasure are practically nonexistent.
>>340882240
>Male players don't feel alienated by this.
They should, because
>The sole purpose of many of these characters is to be hated, defeated, ridiculed, humiliated and more.
That's how real-world society views real-world men. Then again, maybe they're just so immersed in it that it's hard for them to imagine another way, so that's why they don't get upset. A fish doesn't know it's wet, after all.
>>340877047
OP here. Nevermind, I figured it out.
>>340887173
>video games are frowned upon
>in South Korea
wat
>>340882743
>Because it's not necessarily a specific group that the target of this. Sure, there's considerably more men than women as enemies in video games
These two statements contradict each other.
>>340877047
ametifats
theres your answer
>>340882581
You can, but it's nowhere near as satisfying.
>>340887693
Not OP.
OP is still here and interested by all your points of view and insight.
>>340883858
>A dildo is a literal objectification of a male dick and males don't care.
And feminists strangely don't oppose *that* kind of objectification...
Because kids aren't supposed to know that tits and peenus exist
>>340884136
There is no AAA games I can think of that doesn't try to aim at the american audience. It's a huge market.
Just look at movies, nobody batted an eye in France watching Blue is the warmest colour
People drastically underestimate how ingrained prudeness is in our culture here is in burgerland.
>>340883831
>I'd like to know a game concept where erotica makes sense.
Haunting Ground. Haunting Ground is my favorite example of a non-pornographic game that you simply cannot remove the sexual titillation from without completely ruining the story.
In short, the whole point of the game is that you're a very rapeable girl trapped in a castle with supernatural rapists and you're running and hiding from them and looking for an exit. The threat on the player is explicitly sexual in nature, and sexual tension coats every inch of it. And it's great.
(I assume porn games are disqualified here because in them the erotica itself is the entire point.)
>>340888731
Remastered edition when?
>>340877350
>(you)
>didn't actually reply to anyone
Enjoying summer vacation?
>>340883831
I don't think erotica in games needs to excuse itself in any way, other than "it's fun". Violence certainly doesn't need any reason to be there, violence is just inherently fun.
>>340877047
tits are great and all, but just distracting if in a game, if i want tits ill look up porn, if i want gameplay ill play video games
killing makes for good gameplay
when i see tits i dont say oh yeah gonna keep playing this game for more tits
i say, time to jack off
porn for jack off
video games for fun
pls understand difference, thx
>>340877789
Not for the french
>blaming religion
no one gives a shit about offending religious people these days, unless it's islam. sex is censored because women want a monopoly on sexual gratification. consider why cleavage on video game covers need to be censored to "protect the children," yet it's perfectly fine for trashy women's magazines to be displayed right at child eye level next to the m&ms.
>>340889116
I agree. If anything, it's the violence that needs an excuse.
I'd certainly rather live in a world where everyone was fucking all the time than a world where everyone was killing each other all the time.
Both are good, both are needed for men. End of story. Close this thread.
leftist faggots dont want you to see anything heterosexual so they're trying to erase everything that gives you sexual pleasure
>>340877047
>Why Is our culture okay with virtual murder but uncomfortable when someone gets naked
One threatens insecure females and one is virtual murder.
>>340886592
Actually a large portion of music in SK is cutesy instead of sexy.
>>340889652
>we're not taking away your games
>you should be ashamed that you don't find this transwoman sexually attractive
>>340889323
And society doesn't have a problem with five female hosts and an audience of hundreds of women laughing uproariously at the genital mutilation of an innocent man.
>>340886943
/thread
Neither
The only thing that matters is [/spoiler]MACHSPEED
>>340877264
What's your point
>>340889607
>Both are good, both are needed for men.
I think there are plenty of men who would be perfectly fine with a life full of sex and devoid of violence.
>>340891152
Yes, they're called low test faggots.
Competition and bravery are qualities of all male mammals. We're wired to compete with each other for control of the harem and treasure horde.
That's why males are so awesome and interesting while women have always been a bunch of nagging cows.
>>340891447
You can compete without punching someone's face in nowadays.
>>340877047
sex in games threatens female relevance so it's "wrong"
violence encourages murder so it's okay as long as it's not against womyn
>>340877047
naked murder turns me on
>>340891691
>>>reddit.com
They're just outright censoring things there now, you know. You should really go there. Its the end result of your mentality. It's the paradise you want.
Since other anons in this thread have made similar points, I'm going to make mine quick.
Violence is seen as "okay" because it's a very cut and dry action. It's something you're supposed to never do. It's what teachers and parents usually say to their kids, so it's okay to show most of the time because "My little Timmy would NEVER become an axe murderer."
Sex is much harder to put in a black and white box and, therefore, makes many people uncomfortable about it. Most people in their lives are gonna have sex and its contexts are going to be slightly more complex than that of just beating a man's skull in.
Either way, trying to get rid of either or in media is fucking stupid because you will always see sex and violence in real life. Ya can't escape it and it's a rather true fact that art likes to imitate life.
>>340877047
Basically the whole human race is violence=good, sex=bad. The end, I can't think of any logical reason.
>>340891836
>It's the paradise you want.
That was exactly my thinking when I made my post.
>>340877047
In reality people are more exposed to sexual things than violent things
Violence is against the norm and cause discord in society, so it is calmly dealt with by level headed people
Sex is a part of life, but people nowadays feel as though these normal sexual things are offensive in shape or form, and it is everywhere
it's just people trying to deal with what they think is problem right in front of them by the easiest of means, complaining on the internet and in other forms of media
People need to realize rather than questioning whether sex or violence is worse and putting one to an end, they should accept these things as part of life and move on to other more important issues with the world
no one has a problem with other forms of media when it comes to sex and violence, video games are no different
>>340889292
>Be an extremely powerful empire with presence and influence all around the world.
>Be the Nation that spawned one of the greatest military leader of all time.
>Fought won and lost many wars over the course of hundreds of years.
>Surrender ONE time in the face of total ahnihilation without being left with any other choice.
>Forever seen as a Nation of pussies by Burgerland which is, nowadays, a complete utter joke of its former glory.
It's quite hypocritical.
>>340877047
Seeing someone die makes them feel better about their own situation. Seeing some gorgeous guy or girl naked makes them feel worse.
>>340877992
MGTOW pls
>>340891447
>Yes, they're called low test faggots.
Then call me a low test faggot.
I'm as anti-SJW as anyone, but I would have no problem spending my days having lots of sex, making art, and not competing.
I tend to feel trapped between worlds. My sort-of feminine mentality is something liberals and feminists claim to welcome, but in practice, they don't like it. At the same time, I don't fit in with traditionalists, either.
>>340891447
>wanting to have lots of sex is somehow "low test"
>>340892994
>>340893216
quit responding to fedora tipping nu-male betas from rleddit.
>>340892583
I just want to see how people feel about the double standard, not weather one or the other should be dropped. However, I would like to see a day where sex stops being any more taboo than violence in media.
>>340877047
the plot of Armitage The 3rd brings up a point.
What if we created fuckdolls so advanced they can procreate? Women worldwide would fucking riot if they ever found themselves in a situation where they could COMPLETELY replaced. Also the reigning government was feminazi as fuck so they were outlawing them claiming MUH HUMANITY MUH JERBS ROBOTS ARE SCUM
>>340877047
Sex is violence.
>>340892158
explain people who enjoy violence to the point where it is a fetish then.
>>340891447
Competition and bravery encourages progress, that's for sure, but you have to be an idiot if you actually defend competition in every context.
There is such a thing as bad competition and being too competitive. Competition can also spawn conflict and conflict is rarely ever good except for putting times of peace in perspective.
Someone seeking harmony over conflict and competition is not necessarily a low test man and I find this statement to be very ignorant. There is such a thing as choosing your battles, choosing your competitions or to compete in specified things. you seem to think that men should be competitive all the time everywhere, that's stupid. also, there is FIERCE competition between women.
What'S low test is being a rug bitch who lets people step on him without fighting back. For example, those beaten up feminist pussies who unironically support women when they say they are an oppressed class of people.
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>>340893885
Simple
Some people are just that way.
Maybe because violence is taboo that way. It just gives them a thrill to go against what people say is right and wrong.
Some people are drawn towards things they are told they cannot have.Those are just my thoughts though. I could be completely wrong
>>340891836
Says the /r9k/ fag who is part of a board where you're not allowed to have any other opinion than those part of the black, negative cesspool of collective faggotry without having some faggot NEET going "GIT OUT OF MY SAFE SPACE REEEEEEEE!"
Sex is intimate. Violence is not.
>>340877047
because violence is attributed to men and nudity to women
society cares about one but not the other
>>340893885
Each individual is not wired the same and while we can all recognize common traits between races, genders and sexes, ultimately, each person's brain work slightly differently than other people, some have malfunctions and imbalances. Also, social conditioning can influence a person's behavior, taste and ental stability.
Because of this, some people will express out of the ordinary thoughts and behaviors.
You
are
welcome.
>>340893627
>What if we created fuckdolls so advanced they can procreate?
What possible reason would you have to to do that? Isn't one of the major selling points of a fuckbot the fact that you can unload inside it without knocking it up?
Its easier to explain violence to kids. Just say something like violence is bad mmkay.
You cant say the same about sex.
>>340896105
I can imagine there would be some men who want children but don't want them with human women for one reason or another. At that level of technology, it probably wouldn't be hard to make procreation an option on your fuckbot, though it's probably true that most guys would leave the switch off for that option.
>>340896548
He is saying about boobs. Do you need to explain something to a child when it sees a man bare chest?
>>340896548
>You cant say the same about sex.
you can if you're in a bible belt
>>340893627
I don't really understand.
I'm as distrustful of the matriarchal radical left faggotry that is taking hold of the status quo, but do you actually unironically believe that women are not people and that just by replacing their ability to bear children by technology you will just completely invalidate their existence and place in society?
don't you think that it's extremely misguided? So basically, to you, women are not thinking and feeling beings, they are just fuck objects that can spawn more amazing men or degenerate women with the unfortunate addon of having a personality?
I don't know man, I know the general feeling of most people on 4chan about women, the fact that many people feel alienated by them because they never succeeded in getting positive attention and affection from them, the fact that many people feel alienated because many groups of women actively want to emasculate men and enslave them to their vagina and the fact that many people here WERE emasculated by said radical matriarchs, perhaps by a mother, a sister or a group of girls in a social circle.
But regardless, let's not forget that:
A)Not all women thinks like that.
B)Not all women are antagonistic to men.
C)Women are human beings who can, just liek you, feel, think and understand
D)Our situation with women is not inherently purely genetic, it is, in HUGE part, because of social conditioning in a broken society that pretends to be progressive and that by fixing this problem, women will most likely stop this foolish crusade.
E)Women have a place in society, Biologicaly speaking, they are meant to raise children, but in human society, they can also work.
I mean, I don't mean to insult you, but the fact that you seem to imply that impregnable fuckdolls will give us the right to discard women and throw them out of our society sounds extremely fucking nutjob tier.
>146 posts
>Barely any lewd
God damn neo-/v/
>>340877047
what's happening to the guy on the middle left?
Seeing boobs or being turned on can lead to rape. watching simulated murder doesn't cause temptations to go murder
>>340878070
Can someone spoonfeed me what this meme means exactly?
>>340889652
Really? I thought it was everyone on the left and right.
Also kill everyone in the US government
>>340877047
>can't see boobs ingame
>have to go outside to see boobs
>boobs cost money
>gotta make money
>the economy keeps rolling on
>>340898609
i need more old hags
>>340899036
This makes the least sense of any post I've ever seen on this shitboard
>>340896548
Kids understand sex at a very early point in their life, they just don't have the hormonal drive nor the full physical development to seek and enjoy it and the knowledge and maturity to put it in perspective with themselves and their surrounding.
You are part of those idiots who think children are too retarded to be explained things without going "AGOO GOO THE FLOWER AND THE BEE GOO GOO GA GA."
don't get me wrong, I'm not implying that we should go in full, alienating scientific details and typical adult cynicism with kids, but my sister was born when I was 13 years old and I, basically, raised her equally with my mom and dad and I understood pretty early that, in fact, you gotta be SUPER careful with what you say around your kids because they understand a GREAT deal more than most people like you think, it's just that they lack the maturity to be responsible with the knowledge.
I mean, didn't you ever steal your dad's porn tapes when you were around 6-7 years old out of complete curiosity? I did and I understood pretty well what the fuck was going on.
>>340899652
It's what I do
>>340898460
Not him, but
>I'm as distrustful of the matriarchal radical left faggotry that is taking hold of the status quo, but do you actually unironically believe that women are not people and that just by replacing their ability to bear children by technology you will just completely invalidate their existence and place in society?
>So basically, to you, women are not thinking and feeling beings, they are just fuck objects that can spawn more amazing men or degenerate women with the unfortunate addon of having a personality?
There are women who unironically believe these things about men, and they get no criticism for it from the mainstream. "Look out, men! You might be obsolete! Better step up your game!"
>>340880312
GTA IV also had nudity in one of the expansions, you can see some dudes penis in full view uncensored in one cutscene.
>>340899036
I remembered my Senior Year Algebra teacher saying this.
She was a religious nut who used to do cocaine and crazy shit like oujia boards and disco.
Also death to bullshit loosely adapted Eurocentric Christianity; anyone that preaches about how no one should be proud of their genitals should deserve them themselves.
Therefore, I hope that in the next uprising in the pages of history conservative Christian wannabees are ordered to be castrated and neutered. Let it be, /v/. Let it be.
>>340899036
>Seeing boobs or being turned on can lead to rape.
No, it can lead to sex. Rape requires a person to be a sociopath first, which is incidentally why "Teach men not to rape" is so stupid - a man inclined to commit rape won't be talked out of it by a lecture.
cus most people just like to watch violence not jack off to it
>>340899204
I think it originated when some girl posted something that made her very appealing and she seemed receptive to propositions from anons, so a guy from London posted something to the effect of "Please be in London so we can get together."
>>340900448
Every man is a potential rapist, no matter how good or sane one thinks they are.
You know it to be true.
>>340900275
>Therefore, I hope that in the next uprising in the pages of history conservative Christian wannabees are ordered to be castrated and neutered.
Yes, let's do exactly the kind of things they did. That will surely prove our moral superiority. All hail the Cult of Reason! We are in no way similar to those we replaced!
>>340899204
It's a /fit/ meme, lurk moar.
>>340900782
Every woman is a potential rapist too, shit, every living being in the planet is a potential rapist. I mean, we live in a timeline were dolphins exist.
>>340898460
Not to bring nuance to an internet debate but...
While it's more than likely that a large portion of /v/ feels disenfranchised in regards to women. However, you need to take into consideration the inherent generalizing and polarization when discussing stuff like gender. Anyone but the most extremist individuals would admit that not every speciemen of a specific gender fit the same mold. Regardless when discussing percieved characteristics in either gender, I don't think it serves the conversation in any meaningful way to prefix every sentence with "Now I know not all men are like this, but ..."
>>340899036
Protip: Neither of those things leads to rape and murderous tendencies. People are lead to these things by factors that have nothing to do with media influence. Some of them being things like mental illnesses, peer conditioning, training in the case of assassins and the such or extreme pressure.
Seeing sex on TV or murder n TV never CREATES those people and if someone murders or rape because of what he's seen on TV or in videogames, it's very likely that he would have commited those things regardless of the influence in other contexts eventually. Saying videogames and movies cause violence is the most shameful excuse I've ever seen for people to be able to turn their eyes from the problem and exemt themselves from te guilt. Take fucking responsibility for this shit already and stop trying to shift the blame all the fucking time! We are a terrible and broken society asnd you focus on symptoms rather than the illness, which is, in this case, the ENTIRE system!
I mean, do you even realise that, right now, by saying that showing tits on a screen influence people to rape, you are also saying that the way women dress influence their chances of being raped, an argument that feminist retards like you have been trying to debunk since forever, nice job on being a fucking hypocrite as usual.
>>340900062
Yes, I understand, but one group doing it doesn't mean that the other side doing it is okay. What we need to do is stop doing this shit completely
>>340901459
Hey, I'm not doing it because it will be right. It's pretty evil. But it'll bring about some justice in the world to a shit bastardization of a religion and what evil that wasn't repaid in the first place.
>>340901635
Yes, I know, but in this case,I use this to make my point that feminism isn't sponsored by all women and that, because of this, we shouldn't seek to remove ALL women from our society because we perceive them all as a threat. it's the same as this baitposter >>340900782
saying all men are potential rapists, it's simply wrong and foolish.
I'm not trying to dillute the debate by saying "not all women" because we must observe and discuss this problem by onsidering women as part of a gruup, butdon't forget that, inthis case, this guy implied that if we reached a point where we could have sex and have children without the help of women, we could have the right to discard them from society, which is just blatant stupidity. Especially considering the fact that we can, technically, already have tubes babies and relatively affordable realistic fuckdolls and the existence of both these things have not crippled women or their radical feminism in the slightest regardless of if they perceive it as a threat or not.
>>340901724
If you're willingly to pull on your willy while looking at pictures of women or watching video of women who don't know or gave consent to you pleasuring yourself to them, what makes you think you wouldn't defile an unconscious body or just take in any way else in real life, person to person?
Potential rapists, like I said
>>340902575
How is this any different from claiming that white people are all complicit in slavery even if they were born a hundred years after it was abolished?
>>340903825
Because your shit religion's teaching are revealed day by day to be outright mysticism justified nonsensical bullshit and that we can't wait for the day you kill yourselves to fulfill that self fulfilling prophecy of the end of the world.Because by then that will be the end of the world for you and what you all believe in.
There's 7 billion people. We're running out of resources and running out of room.
Creating new people is a more obscene idea than removing them.
>>340904342
Mr edgelord I said nothing about religion or gave the impression I was religious.
Tell me why you came to this conclusion
>>340903825
What makes you think that I want to indulge in your stupidity anymore now that I've basically shown just why you are saying such dumb shit?
Yeah, that's right, now get the fuck out.
>>340899393
Christmas cake
>>340904208
It's different in that there were white people that objected to slavery, and that there were even white people who were slaves.
Sorry if I painted things and represented myself in extremes. Good Christians I know will change the course of the religion, like getting rid of the bullshit of black and white thinking, thinking that your genitals are "satan's children", the bullshit of cultural exception when adopting a religion, etc
And by then I hope that this shit will stop plaguing our video games.
>>340903484
Well yeah, obviously the points you were directly adressing are absolutely retarded. I mean when it comes to something like "removing all teh wimmins" you don't even need to address the morality of such thing, just think of the impossibilty of the logistics or enforcement of something like that. Nobody actually believes something like that, they are just venting their frustrations.
>>340905182
i waited and was rewarded
>>340877047
I don't understand how somebody can look at this image and think there is anything wrong with the right, when it's a natural thing that continues as a species and also say on the fucking left it's okay because simulated murder is better than simulated sex.
>>340903825
I don't know about you, but when I fap I fap to porn or drawn pictures of fictional characters who don't exist, so in the case of porn, I know that, by starring in a fucking PORN, the actress is basically understanding the use of the material she is starring in and, basically, giving consent to useless fucks like me to pull my willy while watching her.
So, really, your point makes no sense and, basically, you're fucking stupid.
>>340905721
I suppose
>>340905182
Images like these will only promote rape culture. Delete
>>340906147
So you are basically saying that women who dress like that are asking for it?
depends mostly in the laws of each country
if burgerland, videogames are still considered a children past time (just like animation). That means anything explicitly sexual is a no no. So, they have to hook their audience with something and violence is a huge gray line where they can hang to
it's all about selling a product to the masses, it's nothing about morals
>>340905383
Personally, I just think it's wrong to mutilate people regardless of anything else.
>>340886153
>>340886592
You guys are retarded. American music isn't even full of undertones, it's just explicitly sex driven. Pop has always been this way. That's where the entire "sex sells" thing comes from. Not only that but if you go look at interviews of actual Japanese people on the subject, you will see that they all are not fucking retards and have seen just as much uncensored porn as us because you don't have to be an English speaker to navigate pornhub.
>>340906147
Nah
>>340906909
>>340905992
is this character in the pc SK? i like this character
>>340900782
Every person is a potential murder too but what the fuck is the point of saying dumb shit like this?
>>340905182
>>340906909
I love older women. They tend to actually value you.Plus mother/son roleplay is hot.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SkUeB6H.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>340886943
>>340907393
But that's bullshit.
>>340877047
It's really not that either are accepted.
It's that properly contextualized violence can be a good thing.
Where as for whatever reason exposing children to sexuality is considered inherently damaging, therefore if there's a chance a child might encounter it, it can't have outright sexuality. Though rules of this sort are often skirted or outright broken because subversives gonna subvert.
In a way, though, they are both major things that people need to be aware CAN infact be used wrongly. And that proper values need to be instilled about when both are appropriate.
because, right now, we have a culture where virtual violence is alright (frowned upon, somewhat, but accepted.) but real violence, even simply standing up for yourself, is always wrong. Hell, Oppositional Defiant Disorder was created to pathologize strong willed children.
Meanwhile, sexuality in games, tv, and movies is inappropriate. But gays can march down the center streets of a city in nothing but leather chaps and a collar and call it pride.Which, seriously. If you are gay and you take part in those events, you are why they are still killing homosexuals in the middle east. You are a PRIME goddamn example of why they do not believe they can tolerate you, and why they see western culture as inherently corrupt and degenerate.
>>340880873
are you a woman?
>>340908813
Why do you ask?
>>340907219
>>340908143
You have to be some kinda homosexual to not like cakes
>>340908273
Consider: There are people who raise a moral outrage over things like your pic, but no one says anything about games that go out of their way to feature male genital mutilation or have men get mowed down by the thousands.
>>340909103
no reason
>>340909103
>>340880873
Avatarfagging is, in fact, against the rules
>>340892834
Frenchman pls go lick some frog legs or something.
>>340889791
Take Feminist propaganda.
Replace the words men/patriachy with Jew.
It starts to look mighty familiar.
>>340909686
Kill yourself.
>>340909296
i'd add some frosting to those cakes
>>340877498
Sorry but all nations are inherently violent. This is why wars have been experienced throughout time. Yakuza and harsh prisons in Japan are born from peaceful people. You can't name a single country that is "peace loving". The simple fact that you can't accept America's "violent" culture is a sign that you desire conflict.
>>340877047
it's just North Americans
can't say I'm not guilty of it too though
>>340910281
>>340910059
show me that on tv
>Why Is our culture okay with virtual murder but uncomfortable when someone gets naked?
mayflower.jpg
>>340877047
It's just a matter of exposure. We see sex in our everyday lives so it makes us more uncomfortable because it's more real to us.
There's also a level of expectation of violence in games because of their nature -- generally you are one force that needs to defeat another force. Sex is an unnecessary addition to most games and so when it's added, it's considered gratuitous.
>>340909686
You think I care?
>>340910686
>we see sex in our everyday lives
topkek
In a nutshell: religion.
>>340910530
yum
>>340910378
Which, it should be said, doesn't make a nation an inherently bad thing.
Yes, we should try to get along with the outgroup. But a lot of the problems currently facing western civilization are from being -too- accepting of the outgroup.
To the point that they aren't even held to the same legal standard in Europe. Because arresting them might be racist, and would cause racists to think they might be right!
>>340910418
>it's just North Americans
Just as a quick example, Bravely Default was localized by Europeans. It's not just North Americans. Also, wasn't it Star Ocean that got censored even in Japan? The infection is spreading.
>>340877047
No one what to address the elephant in the room. That the human race is reproducing at an alarming and unsustainable rate. That sex and perversion is a constant reminder that there are too many people threatening to deplete our resources. And that culling some people is actually soothing, because it means less mouths to feed.
You can fuck women for real. You can't go around killing people. I'll never be a secret agent or swinging a sword around chopping heads off. If you want to fuck a slut just go outside and talk to women and get laid.
>>340912359
Even if I believed that,
>what is contraception
>>340910059
Indeed.
>>340912043
yeah it probably has a lot to do with Christianity and Catholicism as well as just American culture in general
>>340909686
>>340910945
Well... do you think I actually care?
>>340911864
My theory is that our current problem is too much peace. Without real war to keep our destructive side satiated, we are creating problems where problems don't necessarily exist just so we have some sort of conflict. The whole world is just getting crazier than it normally is because nothing is keeping it in check.
>>340912538
Contraception is like trying to stop a moving vehicle by holding your shirt out of the sunroof like a parachute.
Good fucking luck. The population is still exploding.
Violence allows for things like shooting, fighting, stealth killing, exploding shit.
Boobs allow for having something to look at while doing something boring.
>>340913032
you're probably hot wanna bang
>>340913081
>The population is still exploding.
Only in parts of the world that don't have access to reliable contraception.
>>340912359
> culling
you do realize most of the earth's population are indians and chinese right?
not only that, those countries are still chugging along fine despite having populations in the birrions so unless you have any concrete evidence to provide that says countries cant support their populations, you can just fuck right off
>>340913050
That is the fairly standard observation.
Though, I would point out the most Asian countries are maintaining their identity and expanding their grasp of resources. (Some of which is because western nations are just handing them resources. Like what the BLM is doing in the US.)
It is possible for a nation to remain sane in peace time, but it requires a strong moral foundation that can be broken down and explained to the inevitable teenaged rebels looking for a cause.
It also helps when there are actually enough meaningful jobs for people. And we're in the process of outright eliminating every job everywhere, and shipping the rest away because any protectionist policies are seen as evil and stupid.
>>340877047
When suddenly you have games like God of War, Mass Effect, The Order 1886, Bethesda Games in general, etc who have nudity and you kill people, and nobody cares because made in not Japan
>>340909686
>>340910945
>>340913032
DO YOU?
>>340913081
The birth rate is high in places that meet exactly two conditions:
High infant mortality.
Stupid populations.
>>340889283
You are an idiot. What you imagine to be witty and logical is infantile and puerile. You are making breasts sexualized and unable to separate them from your masturbatory impulses, so you glorify murder to justify your lack of restraint.
>>340914638
post feet
Needs more cake
>>340892834
>whining about being a surrender monkey
>still saying burgerland
America didn't invent hamburgers, you guys however DID surrender.
>>340915134
damn i'd slither my snake on her hood any day
>>340909296
Pic related: Best cake in gaming.
>>340913050
Idiotic.
>>340909686
>>340910945
>>340913032
>>340914638
HUH?!
>>340906147
delete yourself famalam
>>340915702
Fuck off nobody's making an ebin screencap.
why not both?
>>340912359
You see the thing is only niggers, chinks and hadjis breed.
There's definately not too many caucasians around anymore.
>>340915702
You bring shame on the mechanicus.
>>340880042
The french had our revolution first. And this is a stupid theory regardless.
>>340913557
Even if that were the case, that still doesn't mean we don't feel the population growing at an amazing rate. Between 2010 and 2016, they estimate a 15 million increase in the united states alone. While the rate is lower, that's still a lot of people being born. The rate was higher before, but there was also less people before. Between 1950 and 1960, during the baby boom, the US went up 18 million. So that means we're 3 million shy of baby boom numbers in HALF the time.
The point is, we FEEL the population growing beyond our resources instinctively. We can feel that. And that's why sex is looked down upon, more so than violence. It's about resource management. Nobody wants to admit this, because it sounds cold and calculating. But that's what our brains are doing.
>>340912359
Vhemt.org
Also, it's not a problem for the west, retard.
>>340910378
>The simple fact that you can't accept America's "violent" culture is a sign that you desire conflict.
>if you think group A is violent, that means your violent
/v/ gets stupider by the day.
>>340887934
speak for yourself, if I can move the crosshair left and right to jiggle some tits with realistic physics and amazing proportions then that's super satisfying.
>>340915516
I don't think 40-something is a cake anymore
>>340899787
This
Hell for Christmas in like third grade my parents got me this book with a bunch of cross-sections of the human body and explaining what everything was, it was kinda for kids but it still gave enough detail that I could figure out that poonos is supposed to go in vagoo before anyone even tried to give me "the talk"
I learned more from that book than I ever did in health class
>>340917001
i'd cum on those tits if you know what i mean
>>340916524
The simple fact that you feel you need to weigh in on another culture, rather than ignoring it, is proof that you desire conflict. If you can't understand this, then there is no hope for you.
There is absolutely no reason for sex scenes in vidya
Prove me wrong you depraved fucks
>>340916384
>>340916005
>>340914657
>>340913689
1. Higher birth rates in other places, doesn't mean that the birthrates in our own countries aren't high as well. All you're pointing out is that other countries are MORE fucked up. Not that we aren't fucked up, only to a lesser extent.
2. it doesn't matter if other countries have higher birth rates, because the point is that we still feel the fear of it instinctively. We live in global world now. We're being constantly reminded of what's going on in India and China. Their birthrate concerns are our birthrate concerns.
