Fallout 4 console modding fiasco thread
We had a good one late last night, lets keep it going
>>340865413
I am just enjoying how that consolefags and Pcucks will never reconcile and that none of them will ever have nice things.
I should Toddlerpost, but I kid.
>>340865413
>muh nerdy autistic hunching over a PC is better than your comfy couch play
Kys
How difficult is it to make mods? I want to make some mods that crash some games
Haven't been on the forums but the mods seem to work great on console, have not had any issues using them so far with the mods i have.
>>340865683
>comfy couch play
Implying that degenerates don't hunch to play on an xbone in front of a 32" small ass TV
Implying that idorts don't have a media center PC to sit comfortably
>>340865413
>all these comments
And people gobbled up badly done Skyrim mods on PC and brushed away exactly those arguments when everyone argued payed mods are just a quick cashgrab
>>340865683
>kys
you have to be 18 or older to use this site
anyone got the collage of console kiddies bricking their system after stealing mods?
>modder makes mode for PC
>someone ports in to consoles even though the modder was never going to port it
>start crying
Why are modders such babies?
Mustard here. I don't know why you guys laugh so bad at the guys asking for a mod. I get it that if they're being dicks it's funny to mock them, but someone just going "Hey, any chance you could have this on PS4?" seems completely benign to me.
Then again, what do I know? I don't play Bethesda developed games in the first place because they're shit.
>>340866271
because console babbies don't realize that some mods simply wouldn't work on console, and can't comprehend with their tiny brains that their 400 dollar shitmachine isn't as good as a PC
>>340866239
how are you this stupid?
>>340866239
Cause some cunning assholes are ruining their master plan to not let consolefags get anything nice.
The modders did nothing wrong imo. If consolefags want to get this shit, then it's totally on them to steal it, and the modders have every reason to make the lives of consolefags as miserable as they possible can in the process.
>>340866341
I totally support fucking the console players' day with script extender. If they can't get around it, then they've no business with importing the said mods. If they get around it, then more power to them.
>>340866239
>modder makes mod for PC
>it literally cannot work with consoles due to technical issues
>someone steals it and puts it out as a console mod
>it bricks hundreds of PS4s and is somehow my fault
console kids are entitled
>>340866730
That's old news. People are complaining about different things now. The latest drama involves people taking basic PC mods that can work on consoles, like armor and weapon skins, and porting them to consoles in big compilation packs. Then the original creators get mad and cries on the forums about it.
>>340866730
I'd fiddle as those retard's consoles burn, if you know what I mean.
>>340866816
stealing shit isn't really right regardless of if its free or not
>>340866730
>>340866051
No consoles were bricked, you morons
>>340866341
Boohoo
Mods aren't serious business. No one cares about modders. Modders aren't poisoning their mods, this is just a melodramatic threat. The whole thing stinks of losers trying to get revenge on the world.
>>340866730
Literally bricked or is it just making Fallout 4 unplayable until you remove the mod? Because the former sounds hilarious but you'd think there'd be a whole bigger stink if that's the case. 360 was dragged through the mud when rrod was a thing.
>>340866883
>porting a mod
>stealing
Nope. If the modder had no plans of porting it to consoles, there's no reason he should be mad if someone else does it
>>340866987
When you make no claim it was someone elses work and call it your own? Thats not stealing?
>>340866987
Say you wrote a book in german
I got a copy and translated it to english and started promoting and selling it like it was my book
why would you be mad? you never had any intention of translating it to english?
>>340866987
Of course he has every reason to be mad. He doesn't want console faggots to have nice things, so seeing console players get nice things is more than enough reason to get mad and take action.
>>340867083
>selling it
No one is selling anything, it's all free. Your analogy is retarded. Typical of /v/
>>340867130
Okay sure
you wrote the book, I translated it and I'm taking credit for writing it and giving it away for free
how could anyone possibly be mad?
>>340867130
Say you wrote a book in german and distrubuted it for free
I got a copy and translated it to english and started promoting and distrubuting it like it was my book while accepting donations
why would you be mad? you never had any intention of translating it to english?
>>340867241
>>340867248
What next, are you going bring subway sandwiches into it?
>>340867290
>working analogy can't work because they usually don't
>>340867290
>i'm losing the argument, I'd better talk about food analogies despite food never being mentioned
You can do better than that.
>>340867081
He doesn't deny that it was made by someone else originally. If you really care who made it you can still search for it. You can't steal things that are free.
>>340865413
So what'll happen when F4SE is required for all the mods worth a fuck?
I'm starting to think Bethesda didn't think that far.
>>340867248
Sure. I don't want fucking Englanders or Amerikaners to read my book, yet here they are reading it in Englisch.
I should make it as painful as possible for all of them readers and distributors, even if I posted my original in Deutsche for free.
It's funny that modders think people actually care about who makes them
>>340867375
The person who "stole" it is getting money that was meant for the real creator
he's actually stealing money from the author
>>340867345
>>340867353
>working analogy
Nope. The people porting the mods never claim they created them or accepted donations for it, only ported them.
Bethesda does it again.
>>340867405
they don't go on console, thats it really
I hope this kills the modding scene, that would be hilarious
>>340867469
Someone literally bragged that they received donations for their stolen work
>>340867457
Why do you think it is theft?
>>340867524
I hope everyone crash and burn from this, and Todd fails to capitalize mods for Bethesda.
I really, really hope that everyone lose big time.
>>340867524
Why would you want that? Fans are just being fans, it'd be like killing fanart, remix or porn scenes.
>>340867439
muh community
>>340867561
Okay, let's say you're a homeless person begging with your cup on the street
some guy walks by and is about to drop a $20 bill into your cup when I swooce right in and put my cup over yours so I get the $20 instead
wouldn't you be just a little bit upset
>>340865683
But my 25" monitor has a higher resolution and better colors than my 50" TV. Monitors are superior for playing games on. I also like sitting close to my monitor so I can see everything without having to strain in the slightest.
There seems to be a lot of people who dont quite get how much effort creating a "simple" mod as an armor set takes.
When you understand that effort. You will understand why people are upset.
>>340867527
You mean they received donations for their work in porting the mod? Nothong wrong with that.
>>340867689
This is false comparison. The "stolen" mod doesn't actively try to prevent someone else from getting money by intercepting payments.
Sitting besides a beggar and doing the same, and that you get chosen to be paid, is not theft.
>>340867662
It would be funny
This is pretty much the piracy debate 2.0
>>340867782
I did mesh rigging and crap like that.
I certainly have a bias against sonyggers and xboners.
If they want to rip the stuff, then go ahead. I will do whatever I can to make it as convoluted as it can be for them though, and I'd keep calling out on how that they chose to gimp themselves by going for consoles instead of the PC version whenever possible, cause I can physically say such things.
>>340867129
So he's literally a big fat baby? Top kek
I remember when I was 5 and would get mad or cry if someone stole one of my chicken nuggets. But now I'm not a baby so I don't.
>>340867829
There would be nothing to port without the original mod creator
the original creator (who may have already been working to port that mod) now gets no credit and the new porter is believed to have done all the work
Hell if we wrote a movie together and I wrote half of it then you tried to get my name removed from the credits you're damn right I'd be mad
>>340867867
The "stolen" mod doesn't actively try to prevent someone else from getting money by intercepting payments.
These people will never know who actually did all the work in creating the mod, they'll just donate to the guy who put in the littlest bit of effort right at the end. You can be damn sure that guy isn't sharing his donations with the original creator because he didn't even have the common fucking courtesy to acknowledge his contributions
>>340867782
Could you describe the effort it takes?
>>340867957
This is exactly like the h-manga scene. People copy and translate the original work without permission and sometimes receive money for it.
>>340868048
Please. If someone takes your chicken nugget as an adult, you will make an example of this person by ridiculing him to the general public, take a video and then post it online, and then try to human flesh search the guy and then ruin his day instead of crying or getting mad about it.
Here's my analogy for this situation
Say some bakery makes bread. And then some kid says "i don't wanna eat this bread plain, i'm gonna put peanut butter on it" and he does it the madman. Then he uses a cloning machine to clone the peanut butter bread and give it to all his friends.
but then some other kid comes along with his own cloning machine and starts cloning the first kid's peanut butter bread and giving them to his own friends.
Literally there is nothing wrong with this. Like the second kid even tells everyone it was his idea but seriously who fucking cares they've got cloning machines so what difference does it make?
>>340867375
Modders are fucking retarded. They do not license their works, which means that literally no-one is allowed to use it unless it's considered fair use.
>>340867457
>paid mods
Always cancer. Pretty sure a modder could license their works to avoid the right for Bethesda to charge for it at all though, and in fact, make it completely illegal for them to do so.
>>340867561
It absolutely is under default US copyright law (basically unlicensed).
>diaper wearing furry PC mod maker makes a mod
>has no intention to bring it to consoles
>someone else does for free and gives them proper credit
>they throw a diaper slinging fit like a monkey at a zoo and cry to their safe space on the nexus forums
Christ PC babies are, well, babies. Glad I'm not a baby.
>>340868048
>>340868219
Why would you be so petty? Why not just ask aloud as to why this person's taking your chicken nugget and shower him with pity?
Bethesda should have reached to popular modders to have them port their stuff for the consoles, and not allow user submitted stuff at all. That way everything works and there is no butthurt.
Why do console players feel entitled to mods?
>>340868347
>gives them proper credit
that's where you are wrong, but it doesn't matter.
>>340868342
We're talking about donations not paid mods you idiot
>>340867083
Still in violation of copyright law.
>>340867130
Free as in cost? Sure, but that doesn't give you the right to do anything with something which is unlicensed. In fact, in default copyright law, you're not allowed to copy any work, which sort of implies you're completely unable to run a program or read an ebook because both imply copying to RAM.
>>340868468
There's actual console fags who demand that modders must make the mod compatible to all platforms.
>>340868512
Latter meant for >>340867248
>>340868347
Its more taking their work and making money off it. You put in the work, i get the cash. Sound fair?
I've made Fallout mods for a while and the people refusing to port the mods that can be ported for the sake of the master race meme are dumb. I get so many donations from console players simply because I port my mods and don't call them names. My mods aren't even that good, but console players like that I port them and give them the option to use them. If PC only modders are crying about other people receiving donations for their work, maybe they should do the porting themselves?
>>340868621
Except that's literally not happening.
>>340868267
nan that doesn't work mods require some works and at lot of time
look this one :
you make a sculpture
it's a unique model you give it away for free but the base of the sculpture is square and some people need it to be round
so a random guy just make the base round
he get the credit for making the whole sculpture
>>340868568
Why?
Lets say I'm a modder for PC
I don't play on console nor do I know about the specifics of consoles
I develop for other PC players.
Why do they believe they are entitled to my work?
>>340868621
>i put in the work to bring the mod to people that will actually give me money for it
>I get he cash
Seems fair
>>340868347
Modders have been sharing and using each others' work for decades now. The difference is there was always a tacit agreement to give credit where it is due. A perusal of popular large mods on Nexus will show this to be the case. The issue now is that many people are making compilation mods without attributing the components to their actual authors. That is what people are complaining about.
>>340868667
this is good
anyone who can't empathize with the original sculptor is an autist
>>340867829
>porting
>literally just ticking a couple diffrent boxes and pissing in the mod makers cereal
>>340868693
Because self-entitled fags will demand this as they want your mods.
>>340868716
Here's your (You)
>>340868802
If you do that,the mod won't work. It actually takes some work to get them running on consoles
>>340868716
porting it is like 1% of the work though
it's like if I made a movie and you came in afterwards and put in the title screen then got all the credit and money
>>340868667
>he get the credit
Yeah but what is "the credit". Is this some quantifiable thing? Like can you buy food with "the credit"?
>>340868795
thanks
but i think the debate is kinda pointless if a modder wanted to gets credits for their work they should protect it
and then getting credits and donations for the port wouldn' be legal i think
but they could just ask permission to port it only autist would refuse to get more visibility for free
>normal mod scene collapses
>all that's left is lewd scene and poisoners
>the next TES and Fallout flop since there's no mod community to fix Bethseda's inevitable fuck-ups
>>340869164
no but in craft based works recognition is kinda important even if your "craft" is free
>>340869208
how to protect something thats free
>>340869289
This.
Crash soon, fellow users.
>>340868267
Here's my analogy:
You're a graffiti artist. City officials just built two new buildings, and you decide to paint the walls of building one to spice up the neighborhood (with permission from the city officials, of course).
Your artwork is finished and the occupants of building one really like it. However, the people in building two now want that same artwork on their building.
Now, you as an artist may or may not decide to reproduce your work, but several days later you notice a headline in the local papers that catches you off-guard. On it is a picture of the art you created, but it's on building two! Not only that, but the people who "made" it are receiving full credit from the occupants of building two, and even the mayor is praising their creativity!
Do you just sit there and watch as these thieves take full credit for your work, or do you get off your ass and do something about it?
>>340868494
Sorry, I am drunk so I could easily have misunderstood
Consolefags actually defending their fan base acting like a bunch of rabid gibsmedat niggers.
Pathetic.
Who the fuck even plays Fallout 4 anymore is the bigger question. Literally couldn't even bring myself to play more than 8 hours of it. It was hands down one of the most mediocre and boring games I've ever played.
>/v/ are full of pirates
>complains about mod stealing
kek
>>340869590
>even the mayor is praising their creativity!
Things that would never happen.
IP laws are pretty fucked up when you think about it.
>>340869387
don't know copyright ? or force your "credits" into that somethings maybe since you wants recognition for your works
>>340867130
>he doesn't need permision to upload other people's work cuz its free xD
Typical of underage faggots.
>>340868667
I converted this painting into a png. Therefore I deserve full credit for its creation.
>>340869741
Consolefags would kill themselves if it meant to get ahead of the pc community.
>>340869948
I like this painting so much that I will give you $100
>>340869948
i think you misunderstand me
it was implied that it wasn't fair
you can however add your own credit' for converting it while still provide recognition for the autor
>Mustard Race wants to claim that they want ports of console games so that everybody can enjoy the game on a different platform
>Then this happens that proves that modders and PCfags get butthurt that someone steals assets that they have stolen to begin with
Not even once
>>340869289
Consolebabies have been driving Bethesda game sales for years despite being unable to access mods until recently. Unfortunately there is no accounting for taste.
>>340865707
Not hard.
>>340867867
Yes it does.
If I release a freeware game on PC, and some random person ports it to console and sells it, I'm getting shafted.
>>340867248
Give credit and a percentage to the author, because it wasn't your original idea, you fucking jew.
>>340865683
>Implying comparing two polar opposite extremes isn´t an admittance of having no argument to contribute to the discussion and just butting in to further your own retard agenda
Go play somewhere else until we are done talking.
>>340867290
Say you like fucking subway sandwiches and some other asshole starts copy-fucking your salami and meatballs material and claiming it as his own high art, wouldn't you be pissed?
>>340869826
the difference is that no pirate claims creation/ownership of what they pirate.
>>340869842
Not an argument
>>340870629
Well yeah.
It's a statement.
>>340870560
>Say you like fucking subway sandwiches
>>340870560
>PCFags would fuck a subway sandwich
>>340870720
Gonna need some mayo over here, sandwich casanova.
So if putting an option to show a disclaimer that said something like "This user has not created this content" would make everyone happy why bethesda doesn't do it?
So many modders are whiny egotists, it's gotten really old over the years.
I'm actually perfectly fine with consolefags stealing their shit because it pisses them off.
>>340871123
Who created it then?
>>340866239
do you even Burns Convention?
>>340867130
You have to be 18+ to post here.
>>340870254
Author? I am the author and artist. I posted it on 4chan instead of the Louvre where I originally fou... I mean created it. I should have full credit for making it available.
>>340871123
Bethesda are in the business of selling console games and leeching off the good will of PC modders to fix it postmortem.
They give zero fucks about reducing the impact their antics have on that good will.
>consolefags ruining everyone else fun
Whats new?
>>340871320
Some user on nexus.
When you upload a video on youtube you don't have to be so specific, just say that you don't own anything you shown in the video.
Why it should be different here?
>>340870684
Not a statement either
>>340866987
>>340866730
>>340866239
>>340865413
>>340868347
Do any of your even understand what copyright is?
I think one of the major problems here is the misunderstanding that people think you can't own something you're freely distributing.
Here's a great example
I have a well on my property
I give water to my neighbors because I like them
People from across the country want my water too
They come and take my water and claim it's okay because I was giving it to my neighbors.
I still own the fucking water, the creators still own the fucking mods
>>340866501
console uploads can't make any money so who fucking cares? if anything it's bringing light to the creators mod.
see THIS is why I pirate mods
who's laughing now
>>340871717
>being this incapable of recognizing shitposting summerfags
>>340865413
REALLY love how 99% of you shit on Fallout 4 but still pretend to be mad over this.
Shitposters arent really better than any thiefs, theyre both subhumans that should kill themselves...
>>340871880
>What are donations?
>>340871849
That's a flawed analogy, too.
>guy creates something
>immediately owns intellectual property and distribution rights of creation as per law
>rights holder decides distribution venues and platform as well as whether any derivative works can be made
What you see here between consolefags and modders is the same as the war between piratefags and publishers.
Maybe the script extender will be the modder's Denuvo, and consolefags tears will fill their designated shitting streets.
>>340867248
Apsulutly. The knolage was never meant to reach the anglo subhumans.
>>340868347
Cosol subhumans have no right to have pc mods.
Make your own shit.
>>340872020
Because if it happens with fallot, AKA, the game that its usually shit and has been always salvaged by modders, then what will happen when it spreads to other games? If they couldn't stop it at mod central no one else will stop them.
I like mods, and modders shouldnt stop doing what they like because consolefags cant into their own platform modding.
>>340872032
Not required.
Someone who donates does it out of his own free will. There is no transaction.
If a hobo begs for money in front of a business nobody would get the idea that he is stealing that money from the business.that money
>>340867248
A translation is a derivative work, so that infringes on copyright.
The whole point of copyright is to prevent shitters from distributing your work, in any form, without your consent.
>>340867375
>He doesn't deny that it was made by someone else originally
Literally they do it
>>340865413
why do you have to be so shit bethesda? why?
it's impossible to defend this company anymore
>>340871898
merely pretending doesn't make it okay.
>>340872020
It's about mods, not specifically fallout 4 mods. Fallout 4 was just the first game to try the multi-platform modding thing. If the same shit was happening with a beloved game there'd the the same shitstorm.
>>340872669
>If a hobo begs for money in front of a business nobody would get the idea that he is stealing that money from the business.that money
that is a fucking awful analogy in a thread full of questionable analogies.
>>340872918
>merely pretending
>summerfags
They are children.
They are genuinely that retarded.
You are wasting your time.desu
>>340872427
This basically sums it up. Even the most nonrestrictive licenses do not allow a redistributor to take credit for making the thing they are distributing.
>>340872669
The people claiming mods that they did not make are their own mods are defrauding donators. If they fully disclosed that the mod was a port and not their work, then they might have a legitimate claim to donations, although even then I'm not sure what the legal difference between a payment and a donation is when it comes to redistributing licensed products.
>>340866987
The problem is I think that many of them are taking credit (overtly or implied) and even taking donations.
Really, all the griping would be rendered baseless if they just went with that newfangled "copyleft" thing of 1) proper attribution and 2) no money. Now, I don't go with the idea that modders have any legal claim over their work (not saying either way, because of lack of knowledge), but the whole issue of legality can be side-stepped by following a few simple guidelines.
Granted, the console modders in question seem to be too ignorant or stupid (or both) to follow these simple guidelines.
>>340865683
I'm a Leafy fan too XD!!!
>crashing consoleshits with f4se
There's no better feel.
>>340865413
>Update all mods to require script extender
>???
>profit
>>340868048
>>340866987
>>340866239
>>340865683
you are cancer of /v/
>>340866239
A lot and I do a fucking lot of this "porting" is just pressing a button to mark it as xbox/ps4, this is a shitty port my friend. Also when consolefags pick up these "ported" mods they bitch at the real creators and Beth to fix them and not the guy that did the shitty port.Choke these fucking (You)s you god damm slut
>>340866707
people that do so are my heroes
>>340877118
Islam and Judaism holy books spew hate
lol
>>340866271
They literally think to bring a mod to console all you have to do is tick the box that says it's available for console.
So let me guess, Bethesda's mod quality control is as existent as Origin and Steam's customer support?
>>340866375
Why not just explain it then? Or are you going to tell me every pc user is already born with full modding knowledge and skills? /V/ is full of pc users forever asking for help because they don't know how to make mods work, both the fallout and elder scroll generals on /vg/ were full of that newbie shit long before console kiddies came around.
I don't think this has anything to do with console kiddies not understanding mods, just people trying to find new ways to stroke their own ego on Nexus.
>>340878768
From what we're reading, it's even worse than steam's customer support.
>>340868646
Yeah, there's really no reason not to port stuff where there's negligible overhead involved. It helps reduce the possibilities for shitters to port it and get status and donations for essentially no work if that bothers you, and nothing changes the fact that any halfway complex mods or ones that can't be done without a script extender are forever incompatible with the consoles.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the half-gen consoles, since their improved hardware should make them capable of running a larger subset of mods.
>>340879216
they do explain it but console babs don't get it
>>340866707
No experience with Fallout/TES modding/mods What is this script extender and how does it fuck them over?
>>340878295
I love comments where it's blisteringly obvious the author doesn't know the first thing about copyright law.
Any and all new art/sound assets (which need to be recorded/scanned/drawn using third party tools) remain the property of the creator; uploading them into the game format can't transfer the ownership for all sorts of legal reasons, namely the obvious problem that if any assets were made publicly accessible prior to the mod being made can't be retroactively claimed by Bethesda; whatever implicit or explicit license they were released under first takes priority.
Also the fact that trying to automatically claim ownership would cause all kinds of liability problems if anybody used work they didn't hold the rights to in their mod.
>>340879216
No true PC user ever got confused with mods.
Any that did were console babies trying to join the master race and fell short.
>>340881115
>doesn't know the first thing about copyright law
Welcome to the internet circa 2016. Majority of websites are filled with children that don't understand any copyright law. It's the reason why youtubers are treated like gods and companies are sent death threats.
>>340879216
Im a guy who has absolute no idea of how mods work and has played vanilla skyrim for many years, then I decided to not be a faggot and look for mods.
There is literally nothing easier than installing a mod, shit, you even can use the nexus mod manager if you are extra retarded like me.
If people wants to play with mods they votta learn, if you dont want to learn then its absolutely your fault.
>>340865974
At least that person is being nice about it and might just honestly not know why many mods won't work on a console.
>>340880971
The base game has a limit in what scripting can do, a script extender allows modders to do much more complicated things. The script extender is a separate program.
The problem is that Sony/Microsoft will never allow a foreign program be installed on their hardware because of a wide variety of reasons (mostly related to security), this makes it literally impossible for some mods to be ported.
>>340867936
I think it would be funny to burn your house down. I assume you'd have no problem with that?
>>340882619
how big is your fedora collection
>>340868347
That's a very good description of what's not happening in this FO4 situation.
>>340868385
That wouldn't have worked, because a lot of these mods that have been "ported" literally cannot work on a console no matter what, because of technical limitations.
>>340868646
>I've made Fallout mods for a while and the people refusing to port the mods that can be ported for the sake of the master race meme are dumb.
Those people are in the minority. The big problem is people taking mods that can't work on consoles, making them available for consoles anyway, and then stepping aside to let the actual mod creator take all the backlash even though they're not responsible.
![F5PMXKJ[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/elq1H6Q.jpg "F5PMXKJ[1].png")
only the finest sour grapes for our consolidated faggots
>>340883391
how about you do a little research for installing shit onto a console your parents bought for you. being stupid is nobody's fault but your own
>>340867130
>No one is selling anything
ads and donation links are just as bad when claiming someone else's work as your own
>>340865683
You do realize it is completely possible to plug in your PC to your TV and playing with a controller.
In fact, it works better than with consoles.
>>340868978
But the whole issue is that that *is* all they're doing. Then the mod doesn't work, and the creator, *not* the porter, gets shit on for it. And this is all happening for mods that simply cannot work on consoles.
WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS
>>340866341
Just make a mod that fries consoles upon attempting to load it.
>>340868267
WHAT IS COPYRIGHT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
YOUR SHITTY ANALOGY DOESN'T WORK WITH THIS CASE
JESUS WHY THEY'RE SO MANY RETARDS ON V
Can somebody explain the "console Fallout 4 modding" thing to me?
Unless Bethesda specifically made mods possible on consoles, you're doing some unintended shit that is definitely going to have issues. People were able to mod Morrowind on the OriginalXbox, but there were fine limitations on what you could do since the game already struggled to play decently on an Xbox.
TL;DR: if you want to enjoy mods in Bethesda games, play it on PC. you retard.
>>340877118
She looks like Bayonetta.
>>340883986
>Unless Bethesda specifically made mods possible on consoles
That's exactly what they did.
>>340883986
On the consoles you have a steam workshop esque thing for mods. But they cant run the script extender, and some idiots cant understand that and are throwing a shit fit.
>>340884486
>she
>>340883986
Here's what Bethesda did.
They made Fallout 4 console versions able to open the mod files, and that's all.
Then they announced that THEY made Fallout 4 support mods, and then left it as is.
Now consolefags, with limited to nonexistent understanding on how mods work on that horrid engine work, assume ALL THE MODS WORK on consoles aswell as PC.
PC modders are being flooded to port their mods on consoles, and when they don't consolefags steal those mods and port them without permissions.
This is prime example of sour grapes and entitlement, little Billy doesn't understand why all the mods wont work on his PS4/Xbox one, so he will either claim the modders have to port the mods, or that the mod is shit and PC modders are elitist fuckheads.
Meanwhile Bethesda washed their hands of the whole incident, pretend they're saviours of gaming and leaving the whole mess at the modding community. Fuck em, and fuck consoleplayers if they want mods so badly, they should learn to mod.
>>340883986
Console players are taking mods and reuploading them and then claming donations and shit, other console users are constantly attacking mod owners for not putting mods on consoles etc console users don't understand that a lot of mods can't be put on consoles but won't listen because they have no understanding of what is actually happening with modding.
>>340873658
Who is Leafy?
The only thing I know about him is the clickbait videos.
>>340883986
Console plaers to not understand what a Script Extender is and that most good mods need it to work, therefore they are "rebelling" agains the "pc elitist modders" who dont put that stuff up on the console market. tl:dr: console faggots are just being console faggots
>>340885974
>The only thing I know about him is the clickbait videos.
You just summarised him he got popular from edgy little kids. Recently he got the attention of some grownups due to him attacking certain people and it didn't go well for him.
>>340885697
kek, large majority of PCucks don't know how to mods either. The installation guides are always intended to be idiot proof
>>340886197
large majority over literally everyone, is still better than what we're seeing here.
what the fucks going on, i only have the game on PS4
havent played it in a long time tho, did i miss something
i love of pcbabys are laying all the blame on consolefags
Yea it sure sucks when someone takes someones hard work and distributes it workout their permission. I am glad that never happens on PC.
>>340886829
>I love of pcbabys are laying all the blame on consolefags
Who else is there to blame, Rasputin?
>>340885974
If memory serves me right he makes his subscribers reply to comments with "kys".
A lot of them probably have no idea what it means.
>>340886829
Apparently you love of speaking the gibberish too, ya fucking potato.
>>340887046
Bethesda for 1. Lying to consolefags that unrestricted modding is possible. 2. Not better enforcing removal of stolen content. 3. Just plain leaving it to the community to sort this mess out.
If people, who're already working for free as their hobby, are discouraged for doing just that, we all lose.
>>340865683
>Implying my PC and consoles aren't both hooked up to my TV
>Implying I don't play PC games with both controller and KB&M on my comfy sofa
>>340886154
>attacking certain people and it didn't go well for him.
What happened?
>>340887539
If I remember right he started attacking some mentally disabled person(s?) not just mocking them straight up attacking them and got his users to spam kill yourself at the guy.
He claimed it was just a joke but that worked about as well as "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!" when you just smacked someone's expensive phone to the ground.
>>340879216
Modern Bethesda game fans aren't known for being intelligent
>>340868267
There doesn't need to be an analogy, it's theft and if the retarded baiters are just going to keep shitting up the threads discussing the issue then just ignore and report them
>>340868716
It's not your work to make money off of
It's not your code, it's not your mod, it's not your right to take money for "porting" it
Fuck off you thieving nigger
>>340868512
Uh actually if you don't make a profit off of something, it's under fair use. Donations don't count.
>>340878295
Under copyright laws, the modder owns his work, simple as that
>>340887539
youtube drama and he pissed off h3h3 and some other people by falsifying claims about him and trying to make him look bad, then h3h3 dropped the bomb on him by providing the chat logs they had and showed leafy was a lying cunt and made all the shit he said up
>>340879216
>I don't think this has anything to do with console kiddies not understanding mods, just people trying to find new ways to stroke their own ego on Nexus.
Go read comments on Bethesda's mod section or nexus.
Go on, you will see.
>>340888408
Thats 100% false.
>>340888945
Is that the cunt who pretends to be delivering justice but is really just screaming into his echo chamber?
>>340879565
>>340881367
>>340881835
>>340887987
>>340871717
About lost revenue more than anything.
>>340866341
>FO4 on steam sold about 3 million copies.
it's just 11% of total sales.
why are there so many stupid kids in the world?
>>340865413
>picking on console retards when they pretend like PC retards weren't acting like this during paid mods
>>340891023
How are these anything alike
>nude and sex mods aren't allowed on console
Why even bother
>>340891202
PC modders were trying to upload other mods off nexus and charge for them
>>340891990
They were only motivated by greed though.
>>340882961
It's quite extensive
>>340891990
Those weren't modders, those were literally anyone who could have downloaded the mod.
Those were fucktards not part of the modding community.
>>340865413
How is it theft if you credit the owner even though he wants to be a 400 pound basement dweller who refuses to share his work because he has a superiority complex honestly it should be required to be shared so master race people can stop masturbating with a dildo over their pc
>>340866730
>7
The thing is almost none of the mods do that its just weapons and superficial shit and it works fine so no the modders are big babys
>>340898062
>How is it theft if you credit the owner even
Because Bethesda said so.
>>340877118
I would pump a juicy load so far into her buttholeAnd then she can pump one into mine
>no loli mod
>no lewd mod
WHY DOES BETHESDA HAVE A FUCKING TOS DISALLOWING THEM?
>>340898442
Where? there is basic redistribution arbitration laws if you redistribute something crediting the creator there is not theft
>>340866341
We should add more shit to crash consolecucks games.
>>340899173
https://bethesda.net/#en/devnotes/guidelines-for-uploading-mods
>>340898894
PC wins again!
>>340899876
Kek.
>playing on consoles
I got physically sick when playing my friends PS4 today. Not only was his game (Ratchet and Clank) running at around silky smooth 20fps, but controllers are so fucking bad for anything not car/sports games.
Consolefags, just kill yourselves already. You are dragging videogames down the shitter.
>>340899462
>No sexual mods of any kind
>Nothing related to other copyrighted properties
>The mod is scanned for offensive language
>Can't even make children killable
Why even bother.
>>340900821
>Can't even make children killable
I can confirm, I got banned when I tried adding a mod that let you play as kids because of that rule.
>>340901939
What if someone just made a mod that had the side effect of making children no longer immortal.
Like trying to pass it off as necessary for the code to work.
Like making some shitty new outfits for them.
Couldn't you argue it isn't promoting violence against children?
>>340902626
It's not 'promoting violence against children,' it's removing the essential flag from children period that's against the rules.
I'm going to give Beth the benefit of the doubt and say it has to do with console ESRB being so much more strict. Making kids killable would make the game AO, if that Bioshock story is true, and they don't want to gamble sicne this is new territory
>>340903750
>if that Bioshock story is true
?
>>340898062
>How is it theft if you credit the owner even though he wants to be a 400 pound basement dweller who refuses to share his work because he has a superiority complex
THIS IS NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. What's happening is that idiots are taking mods that CANNOT work on a console and putting them there anyway, then getting mad that they don't work and blaming the mod creator.
>>340904030
I've never bothered confirming, but I've heard that originally, instead of flashing to white and turning the girls into slugs, you decapitated the little sisters and sucked the adam out of their spine or something. They removed it because the ESRB would have made it AO for such violence against children. Again, haven't confirmed this story myself, but it sounds plausible.
>>340904856
Fuck that would have fucking savage but kinda make sence thought
>>340905473
Yeah, so if that's true, then it makes sense to me that Bethesda doesn't want to gamble that they might get a revised AO rating from mod content. Hot Coffee showed that the ESRB is more than willing to update ratings like that despite the fact that the sexual content was not actually accessible in the console versions.
>>340906842
yeah plus it would make bad publicity
>muh vidya gmaes are evil
>>340868749
> guy invents deli meats
> guy invents mayo
> guy invents mustard
> guy invents bread
The guy who creates the sandwich shouldn't have to give credit to all the people above
>>340911683
>motherfucking food analogies
>>340902626
>>340903750
No, it has to do with Bethesda's own stance against killing children in video games. It's well known and it's also the reason why both Fallout 1 and 2 are now censored on Steam ever since they became the pub.
>autisitic consolecucks don't understand common courtesy
Typical.
