Please for the love of fuck stop playing this useless fucking character when 99% of you are absolute shit with him.
If you're going to be a useless faggot and completely dead weight to your team, you could at least pick Widowmaker so you actually kill people.
Fuck this character and the shitters that pick him.
>>340837550
His headshot bullshit really pisses me off.
Suck my dick
How can we get good if we don't play him :^(
>>340837971
Fuck off the vs AI and play against hard bots until you're not complete shit with him, those niggers have better aim than real people.
>>340837550
Don't tell me how to play my game you faggot motherfucker. Now I'm gonna lose on purpose just for the sake of triggering your autism. You made an eternal foe on this day. Remember this when your winds crumble to ashes beneath your dorito-stained palms, bitch.
>>340837550
But he's fun.
I got potg 3 times in a row and 19 killstreak
I wasn't even trying to cheese.
Hanzo is great but more than 1 is literally asking to get butt fucked.
>>340837903
>24% accuracy when his arrows have hitboxes the size of a tree
>>340838205
Show me yours.
>>340838150
>dorito-stained palms
Do you grab fistfuls of Doritos at a time or something you fat fuck?
>>340837550
>gets shit on
>oh I know what I'll do
>posts screenshot of x character talking about how shit your teammates are
>>340838251
I don't play Hanzo little faggot.
Ugh only if he had a huge dick
>>340838204
>Bragging about PotG with Hanzo
Every PotG is either Hanzo, Junkrat, or Reaper. Its not even shocking anymore.
>Guy on our team plays Hanzo
>Sucks massive dicks
>Guy on the other team plays Hanzo
>Can actually aim and abuse every scatter shot
>it's a 2 Hanzo's on your team that do fucking nothing but wait for their ult in hopes to get a PotG to justify their existence episode
>>340838431
>mfw I get a Symmetra POTG by murdering four distracted people with my noskill beam
>>340837550
Go suck a dick and get a team together if you can't stomach randos trying more difficult characters. Did this really require a thread to satisfy your autism?
>>340838407
How do you know he doesnt? He is a "dragon" after all
>>340838598
Men with large penises don't kill their little brothers over trivial shit
>>340837903
show critical hit percentage scrub
>>340838205
You're there's no benefit to landing the scatter arrow on people and you can stick the sonic arrow anywhere.
>>340838528
>tfw your Torbjorn POTG isn't turret shit and you actually killing people with Torb in ult form
feels gud, I wish more people were stupid enough to run up to my face in MOLTEN COOOOOOORRRREEE mode.
>try hard Hanzo, Genji, and Tracer fags
literally the worst
>>340838205
That's pretty normal, even for excellent hanzos 70% of what you are doing is spamming potential killzones since that will randomly get you kills for free.
>>340838637
I wonder who canonically has the biggest and smallest dick?
>>340838560
>more difficult characters
>Hanzo
>>340838598
He's supposed to be japanese, and asians have micro penises even half asians have small dicks
Mei is ßæ. I main Mei.
>>340838653
I rue the day when pub toblerones realize they're actually a really viable and strong character even when they're not just jerking off next to their turret because I have the hardest time killing that fucking manlet
>play beta
>potg kill 3 people with mccree's high noon and then kill a 4th with fan the hammer
>5+ commends
>play the actual game
>everyone finally realizes mccree is OP as fuck
>get 30+ elimination card or 4 gold medal card or 35%+ of team damage card
>zero commends, not even from my own team
>>340838751
Junkrat
>>340838205
That's not surprising, every single time I've been killed by Hanzo it's because I walked right into where he was spamming.
>Tfw
>>340838665
I think Tracer is on my list of most annoying things in the game, along with multiple pointlocking Mei's aka infinite overtime, really good Zaryas, and aimbot widows.
>>340838881
I bet his penis is weird looking.
>>340838665
Tracer mains are literally cancer
Hanzo mains have no skill whatsoever and rely on abusing shitty hitboxes and scatter arrows so they can unleash their ult on the objective to win the game
Genji mains are either weeaboo faggots who can't even kill a mercy or they're the most terrifying unkillable motherfuckers, there's no middle ground
>>340838205
>every game while setting up
>shoot basketballs and physics shit for fun
>accuracy is in the shitter
worth it
>>340838859
I never ever commend Hanzo or McCree.
>>340838965
>They made it so stats are recorded while in pregame
Why? I assumed they would be smart enough to disable until the round starts.
I like Legolas
>>340838932
What if his pubes are constantly smoldering like his hair
>>340838932
It's prolly huge and uncut but bent to the side due to an injury he had from pounding a hole way too hard
>>340838665
>Tracer mains
Every single one I've came across never pushed objectives, even when it they could win us the game. Much to busy trying to get kills.
Any tips on doing better as Reinhardt? There was a really aggressive guy who showed me the light with him and I want to imitate him.
Most people don't even know he has a projectile attack.
>>340838838
Yeah he fucking shits out damage, biggest mistake I see most Torb players make is just sitting behind their turret not actively attacking themselves.
His spread shit does retarded damage up close and his narrow shot can shred tanks from distance.
>>340839023
I usually just commend myself.
>>340839063
That'd be quite a hot dick
>>340838528
>Symmetra PotG
>A clip of me trying to catch a tracer around the first Volskaya checkpoint
>Sentry turrets kill like 3 people while I try to zap this warping brat
>Symmetra PotG
>Die
>Sentries kill enemies whole camera looks at my dead body
>>340838965
>Throw a trap on a basketball and bounce it to the objective
I still need to figure out if the player is anchored to the ball or to the ground, and if it's the former, if they can be tossed off the map while trapped via a well placed mine
>>340838937
>that Genji that does a bunch of damage but never gets any kills except for like one
>distracts your entire team long enough so that the enemy team can do a successful push back/push forward
Fuck my life
>it's a Hanzo POTG
>Hanzo ult kills one dude
>reinhardt next to Hanzo ults and knocks down two people and the Hanzo finishes both of them off
So much skill.
I don't how i'm supposed to feel that i have 4 hours of Genji.
>>340839023
>do 43% of team damage in one game as hanzo
>some buttmad faggot on my own team tells everyone not to commend me because I'm playing hanzo
>enemy lucio heals for 3k
>7 commends
At this point commends are purely for gauging how angry people are after a game.
>>340839127
One thing I found really effective is ulting then charging. It's a guaranteed instakill and you still have a few seconds to swipe anyone around you.
>>340838965
Shit I didn't even realize affects it, my accuracy is probably garbage
>>340838052
A buddy and I made a custom game today with reduced cooldowns and all hard roadhog ai on our teams. Christ alive it was horrifying.
>>340838965
The basketball hoops are really finicky, but I finally managed to get one in as Genji.
>>340838937
hardest part of Genji for me is utilizing that slash dash, melee in FPS is hard enough when you dont have a full 360 view, having to aim that is even harderfor me at least
>>340839127
You gotta know the right time to be aggressive. Too many players will do a slow, steady push with their shield, charge a bastion without warning, die, and the three players using his shield get killed.
>>340839210
>Watching a McREEEE POTG
>He misses like five lmb shots, reloads, then flashfans some poor sucker, rolls, then fans a tank to death next to the objective
>That's literally it
At least both teams mocked the shit out of him for it but I'm so tired of seeing McSkills
>>340839210
This triggers me about Zarya's ult too.
>Zarya times her ult perfectly for when the enemy team is at their most grouped
>Hanzo or Pharah ult into it
>they get the POTG and not the Zarya
>>340838937
I'm curious who you main
I'm willing to bet its Reaper
>>340839315
>finally make a shot
>don't have recording software
>ask if anyone on my team saw that
>some black guy over the mic "hell yeah nigga I saw that shit"
>>340839230
Half the time I'm not sure which commends are worth bumping, do i get the mercy who healed? the Toblerone that did X amount of turret damage? the Reinhardt who blocked X amount of damage? whomever got the most gold medals? etc etc
>>340839214
Feels good man.
Genji is the most fun character by a wide margin to me.
>>340839063
>>340839146
I love you guys
>>340839181
>Start back-capping a point as Genji
>Like three people come after me
>The rest of my team shreds the others and pushes while I deflect and jump around like a lunatic
>Die but we've taken the point by the time I respawn
I am become bait
Ruiner of stacked defenses
I dont understand people hating Hanzo, A good hanzo can dominate and ruin enemy teams days
>>340839457
Yea, its always fun to reflect a Mcree flashbang or ult right back into his face.
>>340839214
I've played 1 hour and never won a match with him.
I've pulled off some rad shit like deflect a widow's shot into a bastion, then deflected his reign of pain into the widow before finishing him off, but I can never seem to be consistently good with him.
>>340839419
That's why I just spam her ult, fuck that shit.
>play genji
>spam KAKUGO all match
>>340839234
You know if the Flame Strike does Melee damage up close?
>>340839367
Charge seems to be something to do when it's guaranteed, like a Hog is in a small hallway or you got behind someone.
>>340839442
>some black guy over the mic "hell yeah nigga I saw that shit"
>>340839527
it's really down to learning and gitting gud.
You gota know when and when not to delfect, or time your slash so that you get a kill with it (Any kill instantly removed the cooldown on slash)
Also you have to use your wall climb ALOT.
Good for ambushes, good for escapes.
>>340839514
>someone playing better than the other team will do better than the other team
Thanks for the hot tip.
The biggest reason why I like Widowmakers on my team instead of Hanzos (aside from her ass) is the ultimate.
You can't screw up a Widowmaker ultimate. Even if the Widowmaker only has 25% accuracy and somehow never manages to actually get eliminations, she'll build up her ult decently quickly and give me and my teammates the ability to see through walls, which is a big help.
Meanwhile Hanzos can just not shoot sound arrows ever and we get no wall hacks, and he can completely fuck up his ultimate and fire it in the wrong direction or at the wrong time and he's no use to us at all.
>>340839127
All I can really say is that Earthquake is really good for desperate situations and DO NOT CHARGE LIKE A RETARD
So many Reinhardts never make the on-the-fly calculations of an outcome of charging
As McCREEEE I can go up to the vast majority of Reinhardts and piss them off into trying to charge me before Flashbanging them and ending their misery
>>340839419
>potg
>winston
>Zarya ults into my entire team pushing into the last part of Kings Row
>winston jumps on us then stands there with lightning
>gets every kill
>>340839419
Can't count the amount of times I set up a POTG for some Hanzo or another hero with Zarya's ult. It's not all bad though. If they do get POTG, everyone watching knows that the true mvp was the Zarya and her ult.
>>340839426
I don't know why you drew that conclusion but you'd be wrong
>>340839443
After playing all the heroes, you start to realize what's impressive and what's not. In my personal opinion
4 gold medals is always commendable
8k+ healing is usually commendable
70%+ hook accuracy on roadhog
50%+ energy levels on zarya
25%+ of deaths resurrected as mercy
30+ eliminations on anyone
15+ solo kills
Highest time on objective if it was a clutch match
etc etc
>>340839514
> a good Hanzo
They are rarer than unicorns. I did play a single match against a Hanzo that was really good, which made me super assmad to keep dying to him. I was repeatedly killed across the map at varying distances. Not from a headshot or bodyshot, but he was using the broken scatter arrow so that it would hit perfectly at my feet and one shot me.
>>340839669
This is why widowmaker ult should be only to her, not to all teammates, and it would also make hanzo's wallhack arrow more valuable since it's the only one that shows to teammates.
>>340839443
team-wiping potgs that win us the match gets commends from me even if it's "easy" stuff like junkrat's tire or hanzo's dragons
Gonna start this today. I didn't like TF2, but when I played I only enjoyed using the Soldier. Who would you suggest?
>>340839801
>Let's remove the only idiot-proof thing Widowmaker has when every 12 year old wants to play as the sniper
>Let's remove the only team utility she has
You'd need to completely rework her then, or allow players to voteban teammates from playing as her. Maybe if she deals damage to someone, they're marked for 5 seconds.
>>340839930
try everyone then settle
I liked soldier in tf2, but i hate playing as pharah
>>340839930
Pharrah
>>340837550
>Get killed by a Hanzo
>Killcam shows the arrow landing 2ft in front of me, in the ground
>100 dmg
I know the killcams are kinda fucked, but this shit drives me up the wall
>>340839951
Maybe make it so that her ult wallhacks everyone for her, and her teammates get wallhax for everyone she can directly observe.
>Cousin and myself are playing together, Being supportive since his mum died and things have been tough
>Some other peeps invite us when we joined in with fucking around with mass of One hero
>Do Kings Row as all Pharah on Defence
>Blast them from the sky as they leave spawn
>Half of them switch to Roadhog and start pulling us down, causing 2 peeps to ditch for other characters
>The rest of us continue to fly around, Coordinating our Ults as we bring The Blitz back to London
>Win the game, We all get messenged by one dude calling us fucking faggots and that we are ruining the game by playing the same heroes.
>We all laugh and go All Zenyatta for Attack and almost win, Then All Toljborn on Watchpoint:Giljbatar because fuck you
>Main Tracer
>Hit the objective before anybody on the team
>Distract the enemy team and bait them into chasing me around the obj
>Act as a tank for the most part
>Team comes in full force since the enemy team is focused on me
>We win by a landslide
>These threads are full of people saying Tracer is cancer and shit
You guys must be playing with some shitty Tracers then.
>>340839930
In some ways Pharah is the closet to TF2's Soldier, since she has a rocket launcher and can leap into the air.
But her splash damage is pretty weak, and she doesn't have nearly as much health so she's not quite like the Soldier.
>>340839930
Oddly enough, I could never get the hang of how demoman was "easy", I could'nt hit anything, but in OW I've found junkrat especially fun and rewarding
>>340839930
Soldier: 76 is a great character to start with until you get the hang of the maps and game modes.
>>340839930
Soldier
>>340839968
>>340839982
I do intend to try them all, but I wasn't sure where to start. I'm under the impression people take the game very seriously though, I just wanna play a mindless shooter.
>>340840126
it is a mindless shooter
it just makes people mad as fuck because the teams are small
>>340840126
>people take the game very seriously
They shouldn't, it's a more 'zany' and casual tf2
>>340840086
Good Tracers are almost as rare as good Hanzos. A good Tracer on the enemy team usually makes me rage quit and smoke 5 cigarettes.
>>340840126
Just turn off microphones. The players who take the game too seriously generally don't know how to spell.
>>340840106
It is because TF2 only has one bulky character with Heavy and easy targets with close Snipers, Medics, Fumbling Spies, Engineers and Phlog Pyros.
But you will encounter spies that can disguise, Mostly Soldiers and Demos who can jump and fly away, Snipers from afar and Decent Spies. Also Scouts, Down in one hit but they are hard to hit.
Plus stickies have always been more effective until reload
>>340837903
>best eliminations in one game
>28
Hanzo is a great character. Obviously, as far as the sniper role goes, Widow is better by years. But Hanzo can play the spam, mid-range, and close-range games more effectively than a lot of classes. Sonic arrow is immensely useful for not only lining up shots but helping teammates and helping focus certain enemies. Scatter is obviously amazing when lined up properly but it's his burst damage headshots that really make Hanzo a threat. You can do so much damage if you're good and so consistently. His wallrun also makes him super slippery in fights if you're using it properly. You can pretty much juke any other combat class and go for a last ditch midair headshot or scatter to eliminate them, or stall the cart, or bait hooks and flashbangs, etc... Also his ult is AMAZING.
The downside with Hanzo is you actually do need, I'd say, two other people to support you with DPS. With an actual good team obviously his role is a lot easier but in quick play you just need a couple friends to make him really effective. Pretty much anyone that can put out good damage in DM will help you get a solid hold on a lot of maps. Tanks also help by blocking chokes, distracting, setting up scatters, and so on.
You also need to aim really well. People joke about the hitbox size but the fact is Hanzo takes a lot of precision to consistently do damage with. For instance, my average acc. with Pharah is 54% but Hanzo is only 37%, and I spam a lot as both classes. Thing is Pharah can only DM, but Hanzo adds a lot of team value with his abilities. You gotta really be good at hitting arrows to keep up the damage game.
My point with all this is that Hanzo is a really good character but you need to be very active and make good decisions, and like 80% of pub Hanzos I've seen regardless of level are passive as fuck sitting in the back doing fuck all and would better serve the team playing Winston or Lucio. I think a lot of people don't understand the character are quick to either hate him or love him.
>>340840106
I'm the opposite, I always hit people directly with grenades in TF2 and it felt great. Here when I play Junkrat I spend most of my time spamming grenades in their general direction unless someone is caught in my trap or it's a Tank.
>>340839426
It's obviously Mercy
>>340839151
My friends and I were considering a 6 man junkrat hiroshima football strat on hanamura, since the chokepoint there is so tight and close
just load one of the footballs from the arcade up with conc mines and punch it into the enemy team for a cheeky 720 AoE damage
>>340839515
>Reflecting McCree's ult into him.
Every goddamn time, they never learn.
>>340839847
>Get potg on the losing team
It's a weird feeling.
>decide to play Hanzo once
>get the most objective time on my team by far
>get 9 commends because people are genuinely surprised a Hanzo played the objective instead of sitting back spamming arrows
All I did was just be around the front lines near the payload because it was easier to aim my arrows that way.
>>340840484
Sounds hilarious
>>340837903
you do reazlie that its very easy to spot the e-peen faggot who queues with his fuckboys by looking at his medals compared to wins? Because its impossible for the matchmaking to carry you unlesss you're below 50% total.
>>340839752
>53 eliminations as Tracer
>in their backlines the entire game killing them as they come to the objective
>they vote for the mercy who stuck to the reinhardt
>get literally 0 commendations
>>340840571
Gotta give him points for positioning himself, but he loses them again for not helping kill that BlacktopPorkchop dancing around the point
On the masteroverwatch site ranking, score is cumulative, so players who have played more are naturally ranked higher, is that an accurate statement?
>>340840571
>Haven't been getting any good tires
>SOme of them get destroyed but some of them just don't fucking kill people
>Other people have had the same issue
>Apparently if it's in the air it does less damage
what the fuck blizzard
>>340840718
well yeah angry people generally don't praise the people who made them angry
I guess your team's just asleep at the keyboard or they hate tracers
>>340840484
We did all Junkrat on Kings Row. It was the most fun I've ever had horribly losing.
>>340840750
>Implying I don't intentionally give enemy Roadhogs a lot of leeway as Junkrat
>>340840839
>Air tires do shit damage
Oh, well that explains a lot of whiffs then.
>>340840839
Explosive splash is probably more horizontal than vertical. Game is full of things that don't make sense like that.
Any AOE heal type effect that is disabled by walls/other objects won't work on Mei if she's in her ice block, because she's surrounded in walls. I used Zen's ultimate when Mei was at low health and she went into her ice and healed at the normal rate while she was inside of it.
>Hanzo
>Genji
>Widowmaker
>McCree
>Mei
Remove all of these and Overwatch becomes fun for people who don't spam broken trash.
Hanzo as a character is crazy good when used properly. It just so happens 90% of people try to use him like a typical sniper which Widow is better at, and frankly, Hanzo isnt.
The trick with Hanzo is an aggressive playstyle. Scatter shot tanks feet. Recon shot every critical corner. Close range headshots like crazy, and clear choke points with ult.
Even versus Widow I usually win because he has better utility with scatter and recon.
Honestly if Blizz would just put him under Attacker we may see a difference in mentality, and perhaps even less shit Hanzo players.
>>340840997
>Honestly if Blizz would just put him under Attacker we may see a difference in mentality, and perhaps even less shit Hanzo players.
We'd see even MORE hanzo players
>>340840806
yes thats how it works, ranking is meaningless
in fact being ranked high is indicative of being a "main" shitter
i spread my playtime to about 8 different characters roughly equally and i think the only one im ranked higher than about 10000 on is zarya because nobody fucking plays her, or at least nobody plays her passably
>>340840970
So bassically Call of Duty?
>play something other than tank
>either nobody picks tank or they're absolutely terrible
>play tank
>team is terrible, making the match a frustrating mess
Incidentally, why does everyone always assume you only need one tank and one healer? Double-Tank is one of the best setups I've seen, as long as you mix it up.
>>340840970
>Ganja
>Broken
He's very very good if played very very well but the skill required to do so takes him out of the 'spam broken trash' category entirely.
>>340841181
Forgot pic
>>340841049
Well maybe just take the sniper tag off him then. Again, Hanzo as a character is actually very strong when he's not being used like a "lol headshot across the map" character and more like an attacker.
Source? Hanzo main since day one, and never use him like a sniper.
>>340841181
Lucio+Mercy is a great combination if the rest of the team has good DPS.
>>340840126
Here's the characters who use explosives.
>Junkrat: Basically demoman. Focus on pipe bombs, you only have one sticky. Also have a trap that glues people to the floor. Ulti is a huge bomb that can wipe out 3-4 people if they cluster.
>Pharah: Soldier. Jetpack and jump rockets give her tremendous vertical mobility, has a rocket launcher.
>Soldier 76: Shoots a lot. Machine gun primary, right click for explosives. Also has a self-heal. Very much a jack of all trades, master of none. Works in any situation and comp, really. I love him.
>>340841181
>>340841070
so is the score/min ranking a better indication of aptitude with a character, or is it also meaningless
i'm not sure what score is or how it's gained
>>340841426
You forgot Zayra's right click, though that's pretty useless most of the time due to it's low damage (even at full energy)
>>340838279
> he doesnt beat the shit out of his doritos and grab the dust
Pleb
>>340841473
you use it to do bootleg grenade jumps and go slightly faster
>>340838204
>tfw me and a bro went double hanzo on hanamura defense and buttfucked their team all game
>they got mad and called us bad for winning
Scatter arrows and being able to lay down double sonar arrows all game meant no one got to live in any hallway or sneak around anything.
And 2 hanzo ults is just mean too. Literally no fun was had by the enemy team.
>>340841181
>it's a Zarya/other tank on your team episode
easy win
>>340841445
Then why do I usually end up with gold in damage and/or eliminations as Zarya/Reinhardt in teams where we get stomped, while only getting it in objective time for the most part while winning?
People aren't doing their jobs. I really wish they'd show statistics for the whole team at the end so you can actually call out the useless shitters. I don't care how much they whine about toxicity. If you pick Widow on assault you better do top damage and eliminations or you're a wasted slot.
>>340841181
Tank anon have any advice on playing tanks? I got rein and d'va down but the others are a mystery to me
>>340841764
>It's a Zarya shields the fucker who is doing a high risk high reward ult so you can't shut him down before he kills you episode
>>340841181
>Double-Tank is one of the best setups I've seen, as long as you mix it up.
yeah, double tank + double healer is actually really good
reinhardt pushing with someone like soldier 76
winston on genji/widow duty
mercy pocketing a mcree/pharah going around shitting on everyone
lucio providing general heals/speedboost
i've had/fought teams like this and it's really strong
>friend tries to be funny and goes symmetra offense
>gets destroyed all game and mad
>tell him to switch and he gets more mad
>i go symmetra for defense and he yells at me for picking symmetra telling me shes shit and that she cant do shit
>get potg 3 times in a row on defense as symmseyz and make him more mad
I love stupid friends.
>>340841764
>pick Zarya
>someone else does too
>shields for days
>enemy Junkrats even stop spamming, afraid to give you even more charge
>back to back Graviton Charges
>>340841976
God I wish her hair color changed with skins. All of those edits look better than the normal one.
>its a /v/ was wrong again about muh sjw and zarya is actually a GOAT character episode
>>340841181
>as long as you mix it up
I've once went Reinhardt with another Reinhardt on my team on Anubis attack and we won that shit in record fucking time against their Torbs, Bastions, and Meis.
>>340841976
>charge enemy Lucio
>their Zarya gives them a barrier before I crush them
>charge McCree
>their Zarya gives them a barrier again
STOP
I'm going to keep playing him because i have fun with him
>>340837550
I think his strength doesn't lie in actually sniping. If you are playing him like that you are making a mistake. he is really really good at spamming shots down choke points though. This game is super checkpoint heavy so it can work pretty well. I think he is also more effective against bastions and torbs than widow.
>>340837903
24% accuracy...
holy shit that's fucking gold
>>340842216
there's no reason not to spam arrows at choke points
>>340839046
Stats don't start recording until the door unlocks. That guy is full of shit.
>>340841875
Winston is a disruptor, mostly used to extend payloads or disrupt snipers. Jump in, drop shield, zap whoever you can hit and cause chaos, then jump back out.
Your main purpose is to distract and jump into the back-line to put pressure on the healers and snipers. During your ult, try knocking people into pits if possible. People will also focus you for some reason, which I always yell at my team-mates not to do. The amount of times people completely ignored a squishy Mercy on the point, while pumping their bullets into the 1000Hp ape, is harrowing.
Zarya is the most dps-heavy tank, but the least mobile. She can serve as a defensive front-line almost as well as Reinhardt, but she also needs someone nearby to take advantage of her E.
You'll have to learn to dodge back once your barrier runs out and refrain from chasing down enemies just because you're at full charge. Her barriers also prevent insta-kills like Junkrat's or D.Va's ult, making her perfect for charging into rip-tires head on and baiting the enemy Junkrat to blow it up.
Her primary fire doesn't have much range and the beam can be hard to aim at fast-moving targets. Use her alt-fire and anticipate where they will move, especially Genji. 9 out of 10 times an enemy Genji will start deflecting as soon as you attack, so stay on him and punish him for his stupidity.
Her alt-fire as very good range and you should use it a lot to zone enemies.
When your ult is ready, make sure you have others nearby to take advantage of it and be sure that your own barrier is ready, you'll need it.
I haven't really played Roadhog.
>>340841875
Roadhog's good at just pushing the enemy team out of position with his taking forever to kill on top of really good offence rolled into one package.
Zarya is kind of the same with the caveat that she needs at least one other person being aggressive along side her. She requires a lot of good positioning and timing to keep her energy levels high while not being caught outside of her cooldowns.
>>340842468
Roadhog seems to be more about isolating and neutralizing threats with his hook/gun/melee combo.
>>340842216
>giving a fuck about accuracy
I'm not even him. Have you heard of suppression? Distraction? Come on.
>>340842468
Roadhog is a giant pool of HP with a fast heal and high DPS at close range. The best way to play him is to use your hook to isolate high priority targets and to force enemies to back up with your mid-range damage potential, hook combo, and health recovery abilities. A good roadhog is very difficult to take out without focusing, so he tends to dismantle a lot of unorganized team.
Downside is once you're blown your hook load you're not very useful until it's off CD compared to any of the other tanks. It's pretty easy to bait it out too unless the player is really good. You also have no way of protecting your teammates at all.
>>340841875
Not that anon, but I've been playing quite a bit of Winston recently, so I'll drop my two cents.
The leap is your best friend. Practice with it a bit and learn just how far it can get you. You can jump to enemy Widows or Mercys and ruin their day. Your bubble is great too, and you can dance in and out of it to play with people who try to attack you. His gun might not be super powerful, but don't underestimate it. Your ult doesn't do much in terms of raw damage, but it has crowd control and it will significantly reduce the cooldown on your leap (also bring it off cooldown when you activate the ult and when the ult ends), so you can move around really quickly; it also raises your HP to 1000, and will essentially fully heal you. Play around with him a bit and you might find that he can be a monster. I hated him when I first used him, but he is probably one of my favorites now.
Zarya is also a blast, but I'm less experienced with her.
>>340842740
The hook cooldown is like 6 fucking seconds. Too fucking short in my opinion.
>enemy team has a Hanzo, Junkrat, or Widowmaker
>pick Zarya and never got below 70% charge
>>340837550
i dont get this dva maymay
she's the most weak and worthless character in the game
>>340843143
I agree I think it should be longer. I have a feeling that may be a forthcoming balance change but iounno. Winston and Reinhardt are much more common tanks at high levels right now anyway so it's not like he's ridiculous.
>>340843232
She's a cute girl. If Zarya looked like D.Va she'd be the most used character in the game.
It's gonna suck when they buff D.Va and everyone starts using her and she becomes a massive slut.
>>340839234
Ult > Flame > charge
Kills almost everyone in the way
>>340840952
It kinda makes sense, you want to incentivise the more dangerous option (not hopping your tire like a retard to try and make your enemy miss it, not just dropping it through a hole in the roof before anyone can react) but they need to explain some things like that.
Lucio should have an AOE indicator for his team and himself on his heals, they should mention that NO aoe goes through walls, etc.
>>340841845
>tfw Widow, Genji, Symmetra on assault
>They're complaining about a Winston camping our spawn
>>340837550
lol stay mad, every game i play with hanzo i get potg and like 20% of them are ults too. if you kill 3 people with hanzo in a short amount of time (which really isnt hard to do if you arent a retard) the game will give you potg pretty easily. more importantly though i always get gold/silver in eliminations and damage done. fuck you and fuck everyone who despite all that say im useless kill urself
>>340843981
I love getting in noskill duels with Winstons as Symmetra, as long as I have a chance of winning (teammates around, he's got low HP, my turrets are hitting him)
>>340841473
Just use it for peek 'n' shoot at Toblerone, Blueberry Muffin and Trashrat
People don't know how to play Hanzo right, he can be incredibly aggressive. I consider him an offensive character but people get really riled up when they see a Hanzo I often take the blame even though I have 4 gold medals
I don't care much for my stats, but look at my avg. obj time, how my gold medals are higher then my bronze and silver COMBINED, and my avg scatter shot kills is 6 so no I'm not abusing scatter shot kills.
>>340840997
I agree. Hanzo at close range can pretty much kill anyone with scatter which makes him really good. Plus it's easier to deal with enemy Widows the closer you are to them.
The problem with Hanzo is his drawback speed
It takes half a second to fully drawback the arrow, which is what makes him so spammy and bullshit. Thats potentially 300 damage per second. If the hanzo is really good at aiming, hes practically unstoppable with ults up every 30 seconds.
>>340844467
>hes practically unstoppable with ults up every 30 seconds.
I always underestimate how quickly that fucker can charge up his ult.
>>340844283
damn you're really good
>>340844589
>spam arrows through chokepoint
>Mercy heals them so unlimited damage and ult charge
>Ult to stop push
>rinse and repeat
>>340837640
>b-buh he curves the arrow!
>>340839968
I loved soldier in tf2. I hate how pharah doesn't have a shotgun to finish enemies off though. I'll rocket an enemy to like 10 health but then I have to hit another slow rocket and it just pains me.
>>340837550
Play shitty game get shitty results
>>340837550
>>340844972
It's a decent game but it's really disappointing sometimes how bare bones the kit is for some people.
>>340844283
How would you play Hanzo? He doesn't seem to me like he's strong enough to be in the front lines constantly like a Soldier 76 would, yet he obviously can't sit in the back sniping as Widowmaker has him beat on that aspect.
>>340839127
If your team are using you as cover, and you are under heavy fire dont do his facking ranged attack
>HANZO AND WIDOW
>AT THE SAME TIME
>>340845535
I'm not that guy and my stats aren't nearly as impressive but I usually play him close range. Scatter shot is a good defense that kills almost everyone and close range flick headshots are good too if you get consistent with them. There are a few maps like Numbani that I really don't like playing him on because there's too much long range space.
>Mfw playing weekly brawl because it gives me an excuse to be Toblerone on attack
It's just so fun.
>>340845535
Hit them before they hit you. I play an aggressive Hanzo, and the main point is popping those up close headshots and spread shots at their feet before they can take you down. Remember, it usually only takes one headshot to kill most characters with him. Soon as you start getting into the thick of it constantly have your shot readied, and only shoot fully loaded shots. It's a pretty glass cannon way, but I love it. My averages with him right now are 4.27 deaths, 16.00 eliminations and 11.12 final blows after 27 hours playing this way.
>>340845535
Of course you can't outaim a Widowmaker, but prefiring around corners when you know a Widowmaker's position (aka sonic arrow or something) you can often kill her.
That's the thing about Hanzo though, if you can consistently land the handshots (which shouldn't be hard) he amazing at the midrange fight and can hold his own in close range with scattershot. I was spectating my friend who had like 3 hours on Hanzo and he didn't even use wall climb ONCE. One of his core ability that gives him great mobility to get in and out of the fight.
>>340845808
Payload shenanigans with the turret are pretty good though
>>340843981
>Symmetra on assault
There's no helping this one.
>90% of the match on fire
why is hanzo so good bros
>>340837550
I won't, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>340846257
Depending on the enemy team's comp, and the map, it's a lot more viable than you might think. Yeah, the teleporter gets shut down when you reach a checkpoint, but I get back a lot of charge for it. Yeah, it's awkward trying to place sentry turrets when you're constantly advancing, but you can fuck over flankers really hard.
Also, she really screws over the people hiding behind Reinhardts, especially if they don't know that the plasma ball goes right through his shield.
>>340840571
the best POTGs are always the losers
