Do you think it will be good?
Of course not. Its obvious they learned nothing about the fundamental flaws with the 1st game
>>340815404
>There were flaws
>doesn't elaborate
Holy shit that's a good argument! i can't see how i could deny your intelligent and thought out claims.
>>340815290
yes
>>340815290
If they bring back that energy system and shitty 'Press Q to do anything' it wont be
>>340815728
Not him but
>Regen health
>Takedowns
>Console focused
Actually that's all I can think of
I will play it and judge for myself.
>>340815290
I liked HR, this seems to build upon HR decently.
So yes it'll be good.
>>340816074
>>Console focused
This can be said about literally every game released these days.
>>340815728
Nonlethal still gives more XP than lethal takedowns in the build they showed, not a good sign.
>>340815850
>>340815931
>>340815404
Square enix released a new gameplay demo for you to try out along with a video on their webiste explaining how the new game will be. It goes in depth with skills and environmental changes to the game which seem more hands on than the previous game. The environments consist of several different routes you can take in order to reach your objective so the fundementals of exploration haven't changed from the first and it also seems that you can switch out skills in order to fit your combat style. Thank to the new and improved combat system you now have many more options on taking out enemies and interacting with characters is now fundementally improved with a whole new dialogue system that seems promising. i suggest you check it out before spewing shit.
>>340816074
There's literally nothing wrong the health system in HR
>>340816419
>>340816074
Nothing wrong with takedowns in a stealth game either. Do you even /remember the basics of CQC/?
>>340816074
>Shit bosses
>Terrible corridor-based level design
>Game encourages you to go guns blazing instead of having multiple ways through a level by skewing resources towards gun ammunition and making it fucking impossible to ever use augs, limiting the usefulness of speechcraft and hacking
>Retcons mechanical augs being shitty and useless, Adam's augs are literally superior to JC's
>Stupid plot (dude neuropozyne lmao) that makes the original look like fucking Shakespeare
>Stock characters with no development or motivation whatsoever
>Press button, receive ending
>>340816743
ehh
I would have preferred an ability to disable the animation.
no shellen no buy
>>340816209
If they fix the "lethal takedowns make more noise for no reason" then it'll at least match up risk/reward-wise.
>>340816925
>killing when non-lethal playstyles are an option
>>3408
No
>>340816758
deus ex 1 had shit bosses
deus ex 1 had it's fair share of corridors
deus ex 1 also encouraged guns blazing, though actually dxhr encourage stealth more since it was more rewarding
the plot wasn't literally >dude neuropozyne lmao you philistine
also deus ex 1 had press button, receive ending
only difference is that the buttons are further apart
>Press X to Win energy blade that kills four people at once
>no based Stephen Shellen
>that godawful cover transition animation
>no more unique yellow aesthetic
>cutscene takedowns again instead of melee weapons
>social justice story
>terrible UI, worse than Human Revolution's
>no Malik waifu
>no Pritchard bro
>Denuvo
No thanks.
It's still a vent crawling sim.
>>340815728
>>340816209
XP for kills has always been a retarded idea in video games, and it's only more intolerable in a game that pretends to offer freely interchangeable play styles.
DX1 had it right, with XP just for exploration and completing objectives.
Of all the characters they bring back, they go with Sarif and not Malik. Boggles my fucking mind.
>>340817153
>unironically wanting the piss filter to come back
>>340815290
It looks like just more of HR, so it's good for me
>>340816074
Invisibility was overpowered.
The Typhoon was too but I didn't have many opportunities to use it since I played stealth in my playthrough.
Also the endings were all stock footage that gave no sense of closure, just Adam's giving his inner monologue
>>340817153
worth noting that the electro multiple target thing is a later unlock and the devs are playing with the debug menu I think
shellen opted to not return because he's an absolute madman
Looks like they haven't learned shit from the previous game
>>340817153
>terrible UI
They actually cleaned it up for the most part, it's not so bad now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUn6cyh9-Ic
>>340817138
>It's okay because the original game that came out in fucking 1999, literally a decade before this game, also had similar problems
Unlike you I expect sequels to improve on their predecessors. HR plays better than the original with its shitty wavering aim and more complicated interface, but has worse writing, atmosphere, and game design at nearly every turn.
>>340817606
deus ex came out in 2000
> shitty wavering aim and more complicated interface, but has worse writing, atmosphere, and game design at nearly every turn.
you're massively overblowing everything here, stop being so cynical you'll give yourself cancer
>>340816209
What? That's how it should be
>>340816743
Hated takedowns in HR but even more so the fact you were forced to rely on them for first stealth playthrough (when you don't know level layout and want to visit everywhere and find everything which either means KO'ing almost every NPC or spending months of your life ghosting).
A flashy 5-10 choreographed animation didn't feel stealthy at all, especially when it switches to third-person and they're mostly the same animations again and again. Unfortunately they didn't abandon takedowns altogether so gonna try and see if I can completely avoid them this time around.
>>340817606
How exactly is deus ex interface more complicated than that of HR?
Sarif ending> suicide ending > hippie ending > illuminati ending
>>340818042
>but even more so the fact you were forced to rely on them for first stealth playthrough
What is the stun gun???
It'd be nicer if takedowns were first person melee attack button stuff
like, press it, and you choke them or punch them or some shit
>>340817606
>HR plays better than the original with its shitty wavering aim
confirmed for never having gotten past the first levels, never investing in combat skills, never getting a laser mod or stability aug
>and more complicated interface
or indeed having played the game
>>340818101
It's all keyboard mappings and the default bindings are pretty bad, also there are loads of keybinds in general compared to HR. It's not a huge problem after your first time but it's an example of how Deus Ex can be pretty clunky in spots.
>>340817153
>>340817396
>no shellen
aww that sucks
Im excited for mankind divided though, it looks good, not sure about pre-ordering since Im strapped for cash and the rewards dont seem that great. I'd prefer how they did pre-orders like STALKER with IRL memorabilia and shit instead of just DLC easymode weapons and shit.
>>340818127
Sarif ending is irresponsible bullshit. You put too much faith in humanity to do the right thing in any of the other endings. The Illuminati is a necessary evil and only the Taggart ending will bring the best for everyone and reduce casualties.
>>340818042
*5-10 second
>>340818156
Coming from DX I expected the ammo to be extremely limited, and takedowns being a shittier version of the baton.
well, at least the OST is gonna be godlike, since ED Harrison is working on it
>>340815728
Everything after Upper Hengsha was pretty average and Panchea just sucked
>>340818906
Where did you get that from?
McCann and Sonic Mayhem are doing the soundtrack.
>>340816281
Im not trying their marketing bullshit, Ill wait for the full game and judge it faggot
>>340817563
Could be cleaner
>>340818906
He only does Breach mode soundtrack, main game is McCann and sonic mayhem
>>340819030
shit it's only breach mode
>>340818101
All those keybinds scared the consolekids
>>340819159
>>340819192
The fuck is Breach Mode?
I played Deus Ex and I loved it
I played Deus Ex Human Revolution and I loved it
I watched all the trailers for Deus Ex Mankind Divided and I haven't been this hyped for a game sinceMetal Gear Solid 5 The Phantom Pain.
I'm absolutely confident there is no way possible this game is going to be anything less than a masterpiece.
All the flaws with Human Revolution were looked at and the game is aesthetically gorgeous.
My only one complaint is the tesla augment sort of nullifies the point of stealth takedowns since you can just zap an entire room clean.
>>340819064
>nitpicking: the image
>>340819253
It's an arcade shooter that comes with the base game.
I wonder how they'll force Paul into it.
What I'm most worried is that the story might feel disjointed for people who haven't been following the Deus Ex Universe project. For instance, how many of you anons have read the comics? Near none, I would think, but Mankind Divided is supposed to be part of Deus Ex Universe project, just like the comics, and so by not reading the comics you will probably be left feeling confused by much of the story.
Just as one example, the comics have already established that Adam got over Megan and tried to move on to another girl he met, only for her to die at the hands of his old SWAT commander (the one who had ordered him to kill children):
>They quickly form an alliance, though, when they both realize they have a common enemy - Quincy Durant, Jensen's old SWAT team commander and leader of the rogue merc group. Jensen and Katrina quickly build a like-minded relationship, and eventually become lovers. However, during a brief pause in the hunt for their nemesis, Durant is able to take Katrina hostage, and gives Jensen the choice between killing himself or letting Katrina die. Right before Jensen is about to take his own life to save her, Katrina chooses to sacrifice herself, mortally wounding Durant in the process. Jensen, moments later, kills the weakened Durant in a fit of rage. Katrina's death deeply affected Jensen, who had found in her an equal, a friend, and a lover.
This means that players who didn't read the comics (meaning almost all players) will feel very confused why Adam isn't more concerned about going after Megan in order to get some emotional closure now that he's out of Panchea.
That's just one example, to boot. I'll bet we'll be finding many more examples at the release of Mankind Divided.
Having said all of that, I'm still looking forward to it, because even if the writing ends up being utter garbage by some mad circumstance, we'll still probably have the beautiful RPG mechanics Deus Ex is known for.
>>340818540
In other words, if you spend 3 minutes in settings the "complicated interface" problem is solved.
I think it will be mediocre but worth a playthrough.
Dont like the story, the capeshit tier augs, the lack of actually interesting augs, playing moralfag adam again instead of a new interesting character, skills still not brought back iirc.
Should still worth playing for the hubs, dialogue choices, graphics, artistic designs, decent gameplay and progression.
>>340819561
>the comics have already established that Adam got over Megan
good, she was a bitch.
>>340819561
>I'm worried that people who aren't invested in the series won't get it
>>340819561
Are the comics even done yet, though? I never like reading that kind of thing while it's still releasing, I'd rather just down it all in one.
>>340819681
I agree that bringing Adam back was the wrong call. It made for a better story when Adam sacrificed himself in the fall of Panchea.
>>340815290
Yes. I just want more of HR without the shitty original bossfights.
>>340819561
I've read that comic and i don't remember anything you've just described. It's just Jensen and some anti-terrorist swat team solving the hostage situation
Is second issue out yet? any scans?
>>340817297
malik died in HR
I'm cautiously optimistic, but what we've seen so far looks like the games been casualized to fuck.
>press a button to non-lethal takedown every enemy in the room
>press a button to become invisible forever
>press a button to become immune to all damage forever
The fun of the stealth in the first two games was methodically and carefully taking out enemies one by one and hiding their bodies. None of that matters when you just use your DONUT STEAL powers to instantly incapacitate anyone in your way.
>>340819561
That sounds like it was written on deviantart
I wish we could have had Malik instead :(
>>340820045
>invisible forever
>immune to damage forever
Those only last for a very short time, in the gameplay demos they have infinite energy on for demonstration purposes.
All of these new characters seem bland and their voice acting isn't very good. Not even in an endearing way like the first one.
Still looking forward to it though.
>>340819561
>For instance, how many of you anons have read the comics?
>"hey anon, what do you like to read"
>"oh, me? just comic books based on video games!"
Shameful, dude.
>>340819765
Oh absolutely. I'm actually a bit surprised we never got the option to knock the cunt out.
>>340819769
You can be invested in a game series' without reading its' literary adaptations
>>340819780
What I just posted is from the 2011 comics
>>340819876
What I posted was literally a copy/paste from the wiki. Here's a link: http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Katrina_Sutherland
>>340820045
The DC Comics' author of Judge Dredd wrote the comics, actually. No idea why the plot outline feels so fan-fiction-y
>>340820045
>>press a button to become invisible forever
>>press a button to become immune to all damage forever
Why is it so hard for people to listen these days?
>>340819798
>lmao i'll just kill myself and a whole bunch of people for no reason whatsoever
>a better story
>>340820003
Canon Jensen is not a shitter, sorry
>>340820365
>giving a fuck what other people think
>>340817563
I really hope they make the UI scaleable, looks too big
>>340819681
>playing moralfag adam
This isn't Fable, what the fuck were you expecting?
>>340819047
>literally complaining about a demo
I know being contrarian makes you feel cool and all, but after a certain point it's just fucking retarded.
No matter what happens, it will at least be better than Invisible War....and The Fall
>>340816074
>Regen health
Good thing.
>Takedowns
Looked great.
>Console focused
Best thing about the game.
>>340820645
>The fall.
If it weren't for that DRM, I'd consider trying it.
>>340820506
Pic related, it's you to the right. Keep sticking it to the man though! Wahoo!
>>340819561
>that synopsis
Sounds like capeshit. God I hate comic books.
>>340819561
>that soap-opera tier excerpt
I played DX like a dozen times and will dutifully ignore any forced injected drama like this, but holy shit that sounds terrible senpai.
>>340820767
I actually thought The Fall was okayas a game for my iPad
>>340820790
>using Quentin as an argument
>some people will STILL reply seriously to this
>>340820589
Denton was much more neutral. His monotone voice allowed the player to keep within their own frame of reference to most situations.
Adam has a bad habit of acting outraged at whatever he thinks is an injustice. Nevermind you as a player can go around stabbing people indiscriminately.
It was alright for one game, but playing as him again is annoying for me.
It will be better than Human Revolution but worse than original
It will probably be GOTY of the year but because this generation really fucking sucks and nothing else that interesting has come out since then and FFXV will probably die from too much hype
>>340820767
You could always just pirate it if you're curious.
>>340820790
>doesn't have the Quentin trip-stamp of approval
FUCK OFF, IMPOSTER
>>340820806
Like I said, it was written by DC's writer for Judge Dredd, so it should be no wonder it sounds like capeshit.
HR was a great game and it looks very similar to it so ill probably like it
>>340821019
Anon, we have Dishonored 2, persona 5, FF XV, Civ VI, Nier: Automata, and last Guardian coming out this year. I think it's a bit too early to say what will be GotY.
Looks alright. I'm a little annoyed that they claimed they fixed all the problems with the first game and then didn't. I mean, what did they even think the problems were? Apparently not the things everyone complains about, because those are still in.
>>340821556
such as
>>340820790
>see these pictures all the time
>feel like they're just made for shitposting
>I unironically agree with every quentin image I've seen
>>340820961
>>340821101
>>340821840
What the fuck is Quentin?
>>340821668
More XP for taking out enemies in different ways so different playstyles get different amounts would be one. That fucking hacking minigame's back too.
Come on man, you already know the problems people have with HR. Everyone does. I bet someone's already brought this stuff up in the thread already.
>>340822064
Free spoonfeed. He's a namefag.
>>340822357
Well he can go fuck himself then
>>340815290
What a shame
>>340822064
How are you liking /v/, newfriend?
Where'd you hear about us?
>>340820989
Denton was an insert character, for an immersive sim. I enjoyed HR but it's a pity they went another route.
>>340822165
fair point about xp, but i liked the hacking minigame. My problem was however that everything in the game used it, in dx you could use lockpicks, multitools, could blew up doors, in hr you just hack everything. Although in MD it seems we will be able to break doors too, there are icons indicating this in gameplay video
>>340822491
I've been here for fucking years, I simply pay no attention to namefags
>>340815404
>1st game
You mean Deus Ex?
>>340820989
Its funny, the va of adam mentions how he tries to imitate Denton's monotonous voice
At least its still sex for the ears to listen to
>>340822729
Deus Ex was not the first game in this family tree, anon.
>>340822551
I'd be alright with the hacking minigame if it didn't give you credits/XP, but, well, it does. It's doubly stupid that just using the password doesn't get you anything, so you're better off hacking even if you do know it. Though possibly they have fixed that, I don't know.
>>340817563
im on a shit labtop
is this playing at 60fps?
>>340822064
Idol for peole who are as much losers as you but pretend to be better.
>>340822957
Deus Ex was the first Deus Ex despite your family tree. Ps. why doesn't SS derive from Ultima
>>340823186
Because every time I posted that image someone said Ultima should go somewhere else and I eventually got tired of changing it. Now Ultima stays between Thief and System Shock.
>>340823034
We're on /v/
None of us are "better"
>>340823383
Doesn't make any sense since SS is just Ultima with robots
>>340823383
>Now Ultima stays between Thief and System Shock.
That doesn't make any sense since Ultima Underworld came out a year before System Shock.
>>340823567
>>340823836
Then when I change it the next thread will have someone saying that Ultima belongs above Thief.
>>340821668
>>340822165
also
>press F to "non-lethal stealth" aka watch this cool animation for the 30th time
>(then proceeds to break someone's spine in three places)
>no first-person leaning so forced third-person cover system again
>get every aug in single playthrough, no need to choose and little incentive to replay
>wallpunch and Icarus Landing System, make little sense gameplay-wise and just in general
>>340824037
Ultima belongs above System Shock since it came out first
>>340822957
>Ultima Underworld is derived from System Shock
Kill yourself
I would hope so, honestly I'm more excited about Dishonored 2 though.
>>340821041
Can't be arsed.
>>340823003
>ps4
>60fps
>>340824037
But it does.
>>340822957
Deus ex is not a spiritual successor to system shock 2, mechanical may be, but the theme is different, the atmosphere is different, aka the "spiritual" part goes in completely different direction.
