Which is the better open world action rpg game?
Witcher has the better world design
DD has the better combat
Witcher
It's no contest
>>340795387
>DD
>better than Witcher 3 in any way
yeah you might consider killing yourself right about now
DD before they lost the licensing for the berserk armor on PC.
>>340795387
Wanted to say this. Witcher 3 has shitty combat but is better in every other aspect. DD's world has no personality
Witcher 3 hands down.
>>340795616
but he's right anon
DD is actually fun to play
if you want to rain meteors, shoot lightning out of your eyeballs and do a 450 splash off the top rope, DD. If you want story and a world that isn't tiny witcher 3.
the game that came out but nobody new it had prequals
Witcher 3 has better character models, voice acting, quests, and writing.
Dragon's Dogma has better lighting, combat, replayability, loot/gear, and RPG mechanics.
>>340795237
OP, are you off your loony pills? A small town and a kingdom vs all of the places to visit in The Witcher 3?
>>340795616
Witcher 3 combat is very average, nothing really good or bad to say about it. Both games are very weak in RP mechanics, they're really just action games
>>340795748
>no personality
Nice bussword
>>340795237
Dragons Dogma has better combat, better monster design (most of the time), and the post game story and BBI story are better than anything Witcher 3's story has
Witcher has better literally everything else, including main campaign story which was utter dogshit in DD save for some grigori dialogue
>people will say TW3 is better
>their argument will be "there's more padding in the world"
DD isn't dogshit meant to cater to normies who've never been exposed to literary prose before.
>>340795719
>It's not an exact copy of these other games, and that’s not good
>being original is bad now
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>>340795905
And more than DD just having better combat, it has a better sense of accomplishment and an epic fantasy feeling.
The dragons and other large monsters are really cool, better than any other game pretty much.
>>340795387
Why does everyone praise DD's combat so much?
>>340796234
Combat aside DD is more or less a low quality single player MMO
>>340796385
A WHOPPING 0 DAMAGE FUCKING SAVAGE
>>340795237
DD has better combat, but the rest is just so boring.
The world is completely dead, it has absolutely no plot, and it's just grinding and grinding.
>>340796465
because it's actual good
>>340796465
It's fun. Though saying its better than The Witcher 3's combat isn't exactly praise.
>>340796534
It's up to 313,000 now but yeah that's bad.
RIP DD2.
>>340796591
I KILLED IT THOUGH.
>>340795237
definitely witcher 3
DD combat is overrated
>>340796640
>Complety new and unknown rpg
>Almost no ad
>Somehow expecting 10 FUCKING millions to be sold
And this is why Capcom fucking sucks
>>340795237
>Blast Arrows Dogma vs the Spin2winner 3
>>340796591
And this was cool.
I actually just fought it in slow motion using magic while my shitty pawns took it out.
I'M HELPING.
>>340796320
It's not saying that, it's saying it doesn't really do any particular element well save for the combat.
>>340795237
A WITCHA!!!
If CDPR and Capcom joined forces for DD2 it would be a 10/10 game.
>>340796118
Just because Witcher 3 doesn't allow character customization or soft skills doesn't make it a poor RPG. One method of making a role playign game is to design a game in such a way as to force the player to think like the player character, and Witcher 3 actually does a rather good job of making you feel like you are in Geralt's shoes. The lack of soft skills reflects his lack of social tact and non-combat solutions, the way in which the player must prepare for facing certain enemies on a hunt reflects the Witcherly lifestyle, and the game does a REALLY good job of making the player care about Ciri before all else.
>>340796850
Why else would you play an action rpg?
>>340795616
DD's world design was kind of boring IMO. Japs are weird about open world.
>>340796586
And yet, the narrative (or lack thereof) I found to be far more gripping than that of TW3.
If there's any game that gets more praise than it deserves, it's TW3.
>>340795616
but dragon's dogma does everything but graphics and cutscenes better
>better fashion
>better combat
>better enemy variety (i know, i know; such great heights)
>better architecture
>better leveling system
>better exploration and secrets
>more rewarding weapon/armor upgrade system
>vastly more gameplay variety
>>340797069
I'm not disagreeing with the rest of what you said but having shitty customization and loot in general does damage the RPG gameplay.
A focus on dialogue is all good for WRPGs but the gameplay should be more important.
>>340795237
Man if Dragon's Dogma had Witcher 3 levels of content it'd be fucking great.
Shame it's so fucking tiny, you've got like 1 city, 3 dungeons if you count the DLC, and the DLC is pretty anemic at that.
DD is a really cool game but there just isn't enough of it. I wish it had more quests, and not just boring as shit notice board ones where you collect bullshit and turn it in for a pointless reward but actual quests with events stories and interesting things to do.
>>340797274
People have fun in different ways, I think Witcher's combat isn't that bad, and it's more immersive for sure.
>>340796465
It's chaotic and fun. Having minions creates some interesting fights.
>>340797350
>If there's any game that gets more praise than it deserves, it's TW3
I can think of some worse examples
>>340797289
DD would've been so much better if it was just a dungeon crawl game like dark souls
Well I played DD because it was fun and it was just interesting for gameplay sakes leveling up the pace was very nice not to slow or fast I never had to grind, and trying out all the vocations was great, and I actually did like exploring every nook and cranny because they acutally put useful items in odd places. Then BBI was literal crack because they handled the loot incredibly well.
W3 was amazing to look at and walk through but to play it wasn't interesting, combat wise it's just to samey and they didn't handle the loot economy well at all despite having a large selection of weapons and armor 90% of them felt useless compared to Witcher gear. If you like quest detail and to read a lot then I guess you'd like it more, I never read everything but what I did read I was impressed that they actually put the effort in to make even the simplest fetch quest have some sort of backstory. Plus just the effort they did in the lay of the land and making pretty much everything look different I mean I can't really think of another game with the level of detail they put in, plus it has like 5 languages or something it's kind of mind boggling that they managed to do so much.
>>340796465
your attacks feel like they have weight behind them
>>340797431
TW3 graphics overall are better but Dragon's Dogma has better lighting.
Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made, what I enjoy most about it has nothing to do with it's graphics - though of course it's no slouch there what with having the most atmospheric and gorgeous open world since RDR. Same reason why I don't care about the combat and roll my eyes at people criticizing it heavily for that.
I definitely prefer Backtracking: The RPG to Pirouette Gigolo: The RPG
>>340797573
The Bitterblack Isle expansion pretty much was a dungeon crawler. I wish there was more of it.
>>340797636
>flaming sword casts no light
>"better lighting"
wat
Dragons
>>340797573
The game should have just played like those MMO-themed animes where the heroes follow a plot and just clear through dungeons.
I'd like that.
>>340797672
>Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made
>>340797885
how
how.
>>340797069
I'd be more inclined to forgive the lack of character creation if you weren't forced to play as the worst fucking character in any RPG ever, and I played Final Fantasy 13.
>>340797978
desu senpai, the bar is set pretty low to begin with.
>>340798003
>worst fucking character in any RPG ever
you haven't play that many rpgs
>>340797672
>if i like one aspect of a flawed game then other people are idiots for pointing out its flaws
ok
>>340797978
it does have great writing, the overall narrative suffers though because of the open world game structure.
>>340797573
I liked the openness and freedom of DD but I do wish it had a similar weapon placement to souls. A lot of weapons in souls usually aren't direct upgrades of eachother and can be found throughout the world, in DD 99% of all the weapons you want can just be found in gran soren and they are always just straight upgrades of the previous weapon. Wish it was more like souls where I could go through the game with the basic sword if I upgraded it enough. Would be a lot better for fashion as well.
>>340797672
>Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made
Just to be totally claer, you are saying that Witcher 3 is better written than . . .
>I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
>The West Coast Fallouts
>Morrowind
>Silent Hill 2
>Deus Ex
>Red Dead Redemption
>System Shock 2
>Knights of the Old Republic II
>Metal Gear Solid 2
>Grim Fandango
and
>Planescape Tournament
Because if you are seriously saying that not a single one of these is even ON LEVEL with Witcher 3, then you are a colossal idiot of the highest proportion
>>340797563
Oh, but TW3 is the epitome of normies overselling a game. For most people, it's the first time they've ever been exposed to actual writing. I've found JRPGs that are far more compelling in their storytelling - with a greater sense of urgency, as well.
Infinite at least had promise and was somewhat interesting. If anything fell short, it was the ending and gameplay.Also the fact that you couldn't fight Songbird, despite all the buildup towards your supposed inevitable confrontation.
>>340798113
i agree
>>340797997
stage one is easy, 2nd stage is annoying
>>340797871
That's just a random webm. Take a look at the environment around that though, that's superior to TW3 which has a lot of elements that aren't shaded by environmental lighting.
Weapon enchants don't cast lights but basically everything you emit does. Lots of examples in this webm.
>>340798031
It isn't, you just play WRPGs only or something. TW3's writing is consistent and the presentation is good, but it's not a tale worth remembering and it's full of holes.
I feel a bit bad for W3 because even though it's so detailed sometimes you just want to run to the objective and get it done already but then it feels like you missed out on all the little details or whatever.
>>340796153
>bussword
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZmTEtLs8A
>>340798113
i also missed weapons having different movesets like in souls games
>>340798151
Even JRPGs have better writing than it, garbage like FFX even.
>>340798003
>Geralt
>bad character
Anon, he's literally just a fantasy version of the classic Byronic Hero archetype of Romantic literature. By saying that Geralt is a bad character, you are saying that you know better than most English academics of the last two hundred years.
>>340797997
>>340798151
Where the fuck is SMAC on that list
What the fuk is dragons dogma?
>>340798483
WHY HELLO
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
HOW R U
>>340798456
FUCK how did I forget one of my favorite games?
>>340798283
>one mob in the entire game for some reason just sits there trying to block makes the game bad
Dragons dogma
Witcher isn't an RPG at all. Its action adventure.
>>340795237
Witcher is a better RPG
DD is a better action game
the RPG elements in DD make me want to pull my hair out. It should have gone full MH and had no leveling up. The way stat growth works is absolutely disgusting
>>340798626
>>340798641
They're both action RPGs, stop changing definitions.
Dragon's Dogma is actually fun to play and lets you play a wide variety of characters both in appearance and in terms of how they fight.
Witcher is a poor action game with some good writing attached to it.
>>340798151
>posting list of games with nothing to back it up.
>muh nostalgia classis geams are better
>>340798641
The armor system in the game is seriously some of the worst defense design I've seen in any RPG. I still love the game's combat, but holy shit, who thought it was a good idea for it to be frequently possible for armor to completely NEGATE all damage?
>>340798591
>>340798808
>making baseless statements about the only game you've ever played
>>340795719
>It involved a dragon and ... a dog's mother?
>>>>Someone actually thought this was clever and/or funny enough to share with their readers
>>340798418
well
>>340798586
ur gonna get nerve stapled for that
>>340798808Actually some of my favorite written games ever are post-2007, but I don't specify them because /v/ gets fucking anal about it
>>340798854
>>340799010
>>340799010
>>340799169
these webms are unfair, witcher combat is made for fighting large groups
>>340799169
>>340799169
>>340799010
Whats with these stupid spinning attacks
Does he not have any other moves?
>>340798837
But it doesn't I don't think it's possible to even take 0 damage.
>>340799278
>Only one enemy is flawed
>Posts several
>Stop being unfair
>>340799278
Just spam igni and press circle against large groups
>>340799278
What you mean to say is that the Witcher combat is made by western developers so it was destined to be half-baked.
>>340799278
Then it's poorly designed combat.
>>340798151
You forgot Legacy of Kain on that list.
>>340799278
It's not about Geralt's animations or anything. It's about being able toput the final boss of the entire fucking seriesin a stunlock for the entire boss fight.
This isn't good gameplay.
>>340797563
Bioshock is actually fun to play
>>340795237
It go's like this.
W3 DLC > DDA > DD > W3.
>>340799439
Fuck off.
>>340795237
Skyrim.
>>340799631
No it isn't. It's an extremely dumbed down System Shock 2, with the shooting only somewhat improved, and not enough to make up for the massive reduction in character customization or level design quality.
>>340796465
Animations, mechanically it's pretty shallow
>>340799278
whaa
DD for combat, TW3 for everything else, so TW3.
DD is actually not that great when aside from the combat. The world is fairly small and empty, the NPC and world interactions are limited at best, the music is meh, the graphics and art are par.
I still loved it and had fun playing through it into endgame/NG+, but TW3 is on a whole other world when it comes to overall game.
>>340798283
>>340798854
>>340799010
>>340799169
>>340799313
>Posts glitches, bugs
Really good arguments.
>>340799729
It's fine mechanically. There's plenty of combat depth and synergy between classes.
The only problem with Dragon's Dogma is that its reach exceeds its grasp. It has all these cool enemies you barely ever fight, and only fight in scripted areas. The game could have been so much more.
W3 has bad gameplay balance overall, combat/stats/loot/leveling but it gets praise because it has high detail on everything else but you want fun gameplay too you know have a reason to explore rather than half the time just running to an objective just to see what happens. Hopefully they can manage to make a fun game with the level of detail with Cyberpunk 2077 if they can it will be literal GOAT
Witcher 3 looks pretty but the combat is pretty boring. I wish there was a game with DD's combat and Witcher 3's graphics and story telling.
>>340799726
I'm not talking about the complexity of the game systems, the actual pointing and shooting is fun.
>>340795237
DD since it has actually good gameplay and that's the only thing that matters.
>>340799808
What's the point of a game where you spend most of the time fighting, but the combat sucks?
>>340799678
But he's right. It's rather rare for a Western-developed game to actually have amazing - nay - decent combat.
>>340799975
DD has better story.
>>340796320
you have no reading comprehension kys.
I liked the Wither 3 for the first 1/3rd then I realized it was just going to be the same shit for the next 30 hours.
How do you slopmunchers keep at this stuff? Hours and hours of filler or clone missions. To me it's not much better than one of those crappy phone games like Happy Street.
>>340799729
>hitstop
>breakable armor mechanics
>knockdown damage thresholds
>magic and weapon type resistances
>grab and throw mechanics calculated by weight
>ranged mechanics
>body part damage calculations
>body parts you hit jiggle
Nothing shallow about DD. It's likely the most advanced action RPG when it comes to combat.
>>340795387
First post best post.
>>340800096
Yes the story is really good, especially for BB, but the way they present the story in The Witcher is better imo.
>>340799992
Since when do you spend most of your time fighting in TW3? And even so, it's not like TW3 has particularly bad combat. Just not as good as some other, more combat focused games. Replaying on Death March right now and the combat is fairly solid.
>>340797978
Source?
>>340800179
I forgot to mention that your height and weight affects a lot of things in the game too, which is a cool gimmick.
anyone have a DD torrent? none on kat, tpb is down.
>>340800367
fairly boring you mean.
>>340800313
>not spinning like a madman
0/10
>>340800367
>Since when do you spend most of your time fighting in TW3?
You spend all your time fighting or moving to a place where you will begin fighting.
>it's not like TW3 has particularly bad combat.
Maybe by the standards of western action games, sure. But any good action RPG shits all over it.
DD open world felt bare and is in no comparison to witcher 3.
DD combat is fun, but witcher is still more enjoyable for me. I enjoy the series
>>340800476
i got you senpai
Have there been any interesting mods for DD since its PC release?
Really want to play it again, it's a blast, but I wouldn't mind a good mod or two.
>>340800442
Just buy it :^) it's good.
>>340800539
There's better loot in DD's barren open world though. You're bringing graphics into a gameplay discussion!
>>340800520
>Maybe by the standards of western action games, sure. But any good action RPG shits all over it.
It's funny because it actually does have the best combat of any WRPG yet it still gets shat on for bad combat.
>>340800313
I don't agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVigezwHytg
my wife has 5 lvl 160+ arisen but she just cant into witcher 3 combat. Dont know if that makes it better or worse.
>>340795237
Dragons dogma had better combat
Witcher 3 had better story
I enjoyed both and would recommend both
>>340800842
>Witcher 3 had better story
Nice meme.
>>340800761
just to be clear. I agree that Dragon's Dogma story is Better. But the presentation for Witcher's story was handled very well.
>DMC5 is in development
>This means DD2 is years away from even starting development
souls games have significantly better combat, witcher games have significantly better narrative and story-centric role playing elements. DD is an RPG because you get to choose your character's appearance, class, and to an extent stats. aside from that you have pretty much no interaction with the narrative and world whatsoever and the game is linear through and through. the story was alright but I personally didn't like the post-game stuff involving the Seneschal, it felt super cheesy and tacked on in its laughable attempt to be larger-than-life and philosophical which is something that seems pretty typical of JRPGs in general. it made it feel so poorly paced in the end, the world was enjoyable and felt like a more realistic interpretation of the classic medieval sword and magic fantasy genre but it then takes a huge turn in a random direction for no reason. its DLC was much, much better in this regard and is pretty much the only reason the game is worth playing at all imo. I enjoyed the story and lore in dark souls 1 more in every single way than base DD because it simply wasn't as cringy and you could easily forget about it since it wasn't pushed forward in any significant way.
after ~90 hours of DD I uninstalled it because it ground to a complete halt and became one of the most annoying and boring games I've ever played. I got to level 150 or so, completely finished the main story twice and killed Daimon half a dozen times. after that it was just repeating the same shit over and over again - running to specific chests and godsbaning to grind fucking lvl 3 weapons/armors/gears for hours on end even though min-maxing is pointless and all that matters is fashion. the enemies are interesting the first ten times you fight them but the game is pretty much worthless when the combat in a VERY combat-centric game starts to become a repetitive chore. I have 600 hours in DkS1 and somehow it still manages to have fun combat because it's fast and doesn't feel tedious
>>340800716
>There's better loot in DD's barren open world though. You're bringing graphics into a gameplay discussion!
everything about witcher other than the combat is better. Especially the atmosphere and world which you play in. It's not even a discussion.
stop.
>>340795237
The Witcher 3 but Dragon's Dogma is fookin epic as well.
>>340800673
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=586957
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/latestmods/?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Sectus/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=367500
>>340800830
It's an un-intuitive Dark Souls combat so.
>>340799348
It is totally possible for THE ENEMIES to reduce damage by 99%
This video explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BNxpYz9rk
>>340799509
Never played it, that's why I might have forgotten it
>>340799631
I personally find Bioshock and Minerva's Den fun to play, but I understand I am in the minority regarding that. Infinite, however, is outright unfun.
Can we get a griffon one shot webm
>>340800980
If you can't get combat, that is, the core gameplay, the way you interact with the game, done right then literally nothing else matters. It doesn't matter how good something else may be.
>>340800980
>I'm an ignorant fanboy who only cares about graphics
Stop.
Not really sure what there is to talk about really. DD has better combat, but TW3 is the better overall game. It's hardly even debatable.
> DD praised for it's combat and pawn system, but generally considered a flawed gem overall. Still great, but missed the mark for excellence.
> TW3 universally acclaimed by publications and players. Set new standards for open world RPG's and btfo everything else for GOTY. Albeit not the greatest combat.
>>340799865
This is what I love about this game, they just put shit in these places and it's so good when you just put in that curiosity and you actually find something. The adventure demo sold me on it because of this being able to climb and jump on things just makes exploration so much fun.
>>340801182
How is it a better overall game? Literally nothing matters if the gameplay isn't good. It's a game.
>>340795387
/thread
>>340800980
>dont care about gameplay in a video game
So Witcher is like The Order 1886 and Heavy Rain then?
Lol ITT shitposters actually trying to convince people DD is better than witcher 3.LOL
>>340801063
>look at nexusmods top list
>it's almost all nudemods
Never change, Nexus.
>>340801171
Not him, but nowhere in his post did he say anything about "muh graphics".
He said the atmosphere and world building were amazing, which is completely and entirely valid.
DD > TW1 > TW2 = TW3
>>340801091
Oh the enemies, yeah that was kind of dumb but it's a looty game anyway so you're expected to upgrade or just find new gear periodically there's plenty of chests and you can redo dungeons again if you wanted.
>people on /v/ like witcher 3 over DD
>people on /v/ like and would voluntarily play witcher 3 in general
what happened? have facebook normies invaded?
>>340795387
DD's combat is shit
>>340801407
m8 he was shitposting. you took the b8
>>340801407
Which means graphics if there's nothing tangible in them. Or are you talking about music? Really?
He's ignorant and so are you.
>>340801268
That's a shitty argument and you know it. Those were both ultra linear 5 hour romps. TW3+ DLC can easily set you playing and exploring for 100+ hours in a non linear open world.
>>340801325
think the nexus has a few combat revamps for Witcher 3 as well
it's cdred tradition to have Combat Enhanced mods.
>>340801246
But you're missing a crucial point. The gameplay is good. Maybe not exactly up to DD in the combat, but still the overall gameplay is very good.
>>340801679
m8 you took more b8.
my anon friend, you will learn one day.
>>340801679
>TW3+ DLC can easily set you playing and exploring for 100+ hours in a non linear open world.
Who wants to spend a hundred hours with that shit gameplay? Frankly I'd rather have the Heavy Rain style narrative game approach. At least then I don't have to put up with dozens if not hundreds of hours of bad gameplay.
>>340801774
>The gameplay is good.
It's not. It's an Assassin's Creed tier bad action game with weak roleplaying mechanics (Geralt plays the same no matter how you build him, I've played full action games with more meaningful customization) and quests that boil down to activating batman vision and following a trail, then fighting monsters.
If you think the Witcher has good gameplay you have extremely low standards.
>>340801823
kek
>i don't like it so it's bad
>mommmmm
DD has zero value after w3 release, why play any medieval rpg after w3 since it does almost everything better than its competition.
>>340801782
how the fuck do people play as that old geezer? i would have lost interest
>>340795237
Witcher 3
>better narrative
>better characters
>better visuals
>better aesthetic
>more content
>larger world
>better crafting system and inventory management
>better voice acting
Dragons Dogma
>Superior combat
>Character doesn't walk like his slipping on ice
>You can walk up hills
They're both good, but the Witcher 3 is in another league, despite it's glaring flaws.
>>340801774
When you're bored half the time or not feeling like the rewards you get for doing things aren't up to your liking 90% of the time then the gameplay isn't good, I liked the first few hours of the game but then it just loses it's pace and you get funneled down into similar patterns and then you realize you're only really playing to see the story or the rest of the world and how it looks or just to get more gwent cards.
>>340802102
I dunno, why do people buy Call of duty every year?
I guess they like itWhoa people actually like shit you don't like! Is this real life.
anon, stop.
>>340802126
>If you slap a nice story and production levels on a mediocre at best game then it is better than a game that actually has good gameplay
Dragons Dogma is a good game. The Witcher 3 is a great game.
>>340802204
but no one should like playing as an old geezer. this is just fact
>>340802224
Dragon's Dogma is a good game. The Witcher 3 is not a game.
hello facebook friends. your talks of witcher 3 and console equality are not welcome here
please go back to the website you came from
>>340802126
>Better everything expect for gameplay
>TW3 is miles better
This tells you alot about witcherdrones
>>340802280
I think you are underage and have no imagination at all. Obviously you've never played a single witcher game and know not anything about it. Geralt is about 100 years old and can easily live to be over 300. It's a different fucking universe than here bro. Get over it. wrap your brain around it.go beat off and have a fun saturday kiddo. I bet its grand
>>340795237
In terms of story I think both achieve what they set out to do and I enjoyed both of them equally.
In terms of gameplay I would have to go with DD. Witcher's combat has the exact same problems as Souls games in terms of enemy movesets which makes me feel like I'm not participating in the fight at all.
If I had to go back to replay one I'd go with DD because it would feel like I'm back home and it's time to go for another round, get a a team together and go out on a mission to kill shit.
Dragon's Dogma is a game riddled with so many problems that if it was a critically acclaimed AAA game with a +90 metacritic score, /v/ would unanimously shit all over it and abandon it altogether. The voice acting is horrendous. The game has bugs out the ass. Most of the elements it borrows from other games (grappling enemies, item harvesting/crafting etc.) are relatively poorly executed. The interface is clunky. The towns and overworld are almost devoid of any charm or worthwhile exploration at all. The pawn recruitment system is novel but robs the player of the chance to have a fully customizable party or multiplayer. The story might appeal to Monolithsoft fans but will come across as laughably silly to anybody with an elementary knowledge of literature, cinema or even good video game storytelling.
>>340802445
i was born in 1988
>>340802301
Holy shit... The levels of denial in this thread are reaching astronomical levels.
>>340802465
Souls combat may not be the perfect thing its fanboys proclaim it to be, but it's a hell of a lot better than Witcher.
>>340802445
>Geralt is about 100 years old and can easily live to be over 300. It's a different fucking universe than here bro
Wait, so? No one wants to look at some old fart.
o shit niggas, it's a witcher thread now.
>>340802587
Both are equally shit to me because Witcher makes magic actually useful.
Witcher games aren't action games, not with that crippled, trashy, idiotic combat system. They're mongoloid simulators.
>>340801679
How do you suffer through 100 hours of bad combat?
>>340802219
yes
>>340802623
Your underage is showing. Go back to your princess dressup weeb trash jrpg, son.
>>340802219
>>340802416
There a shit loads of games with better combat than DD and if that's all it has to offer it is a lesser game than W3 which is far more well-rounded.
>>340802823
>There a shit loads of games with better combat than DD
There are, but how many of them are party-based medieval action RPGs?
Are you going to recommend me a first person shooter instead?
Witcher is easily the better game.
>>340795237
>Action RPG
DD, no doubt. As a pure RPG though, TW3.
>>340798165
>Can't think of a proper argument
>use the normies card
Get lost.
>>340795237
is this a joke? DD is actually fun to play. Witcher plays even worse than Assassin Creed.
I prefer spending time in the world of Witcher III, but I find DD gameplay more fun.
Both are excellent.
>>340802787
I dont know. How to you rinse and repeat the same (decent) combat on the same 10 monsters in a lifeless, bland, flawed world for 100 hours?
It's all personal opinion. Just so happens yours is shit.
>inb4 "you have shit taste" "git gud"
I really don't know why Dragon's Dogma is considered so good. The best part of the game is the exploration, but the world looks so empty for some reason.
The combat is boring and I really can't explain why. It lacks something. In Kingdom Hearts, Dark Souls and God Hand it's so engaging, but in DD is so boring. Getting limited to 4 skills is terrible too.
>>340802819
kids think witcher is grown up and mature -- and they like it because of the fact it gets advertised like all other AAA games. grown, adult manchildren like weeb games
>>340803241
We're reaching critical DENIAL!
>>340803241
>>>340803053
>TW3 is a generic ubisoft AAA trash.
>DD has unique gameplay mechanics such as pawn progression and online. Not a single game did this befoe.
>gameplay is shit
>quests are follow the red glow mindless shit like skyrim
>graphics are downgraded
>b-but story!!
/v/ is casual with horrible taste.
As much effort as CD Projekt put into The Witcher series they never had a good combat system.
TW3 is a pretty incredible experience, tons of sidequests that turn into hour long quest chains, a crazy amount of gear, bombs, runes, and character customization. It looks incredible(especially on high end PC's), and in my experience it crashed once in the 120 hours i played it.It's obvious to anyone that it took alot of time, effort, and passion to make it.
Yet despite all this effort the game is a lumbering brute with little brilliance in the actual gameplay systems themselves, the part where it actually counts. It's a janky, clumsy experience that doesn't make me feel good playing.
>>340803667
> implying DD isnt casual
Oh... oh okay...
Witcher's Gaunter O'Dimm and DD's Senechal brought the same levels of hype to my soul so both games are equally good to me.
>>340803176
Because the combat is good, unlike Witcher
>TW3 has good open world
I love this meme
>>340803193
This. I just couldn't get into DD because it feels so...empty. I don't know if I should call it generic or whatever, but there's definitely something missing there.
>>340803884
isn't a game better with open world.
ill wait
>>340803751
I know how the pawns work, champ. I played the game well into endgame and ng+. It's a good game. It just so happens TW3 is better.
Which game is better, the game with cut corners everywhere or the one that had enough money and time? DD is a great game but you notice wasted potential everywhere except in the combat system.
>>340803991
please tell me that's ultra low settings.
>>340803991
>isn't a game better with open world.
No. Open world = offline mmo shit.
>>340803924
Honestly, I don't have a problem with the sort of empty world. The real problem is the combat, the combat lacks something and I don't know why.
>>340804070
>Which game is better, the game with cut corners everywhere or the one that had enough money and time?
Often the one with cut corners, and that is the case here as well.
>>340803067
But they were talking about games that are over-praised, how is using normies as an example not valid?
>>340803751
>>>340803402
>>>340803524
>http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Pawn_Inclination
>http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/626514-dragons-dogma/66216528
>>340804106
Personal oppinion.
>>340799002
IS IT UNDERTALE?
>>340799865
>Have to go to the right just a bit to grab the ledge.
Holy shit i was trying to get that chest for such a long time before giving up.
>>340804160
Why do you keep deleting your posts?
>>340804096
its super low bro. I wish you'd post a DD screeny for me lol. you wont tho. ill wait
>>340804334
autism
Maximum kek DD bros. Your game will forever be known as a slightly above average but flawed open world ARPG while TW3 will continue to be considered a height in gaming for years to come. No amount of butthurt shilling on /v/ will change this.
I tried playing TW3, but I just couldn't get into it. There really isn't any indication on what enemies are weak to, whether or not enemies might fight in groups (or packs), which roads lead to where.
Honestly, pretty lazy game design. Now, Dragon's Dogma, on the other hand...
>>340804523
No amount of shilling will make TW3 fun
>>340804523
>TW3 will continue to be considered a height in gaming for years to come
Why the gaming journalists that /v/ claim to hate?
>>340804523
yup. exactly right. it's only a handful of faggots that keep shitposting anywho. doesn't matter. it's like 3 dudes that keep shitting it up with DD shill
They're both great games. DD has some of the best combat, especially magic, out of any RPG I've played. Witcher 3 has great storytelling and atmosphere. Please guys, it's not a competition. This east vs west thing is ridiculous.
>>340804634
Nah shut up either you are EAST side or WEST side. There is no diplomacy here lad.
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/378jlc/jesse_cox_dodger_and_angryjoe_in_witcher_3/?
aww yis witcher thread
>>340804634
>DD has some of the best combat, especially magic, out of any RPG I've played.
Care to explain? I want to understand what is som good about DD's combat.
I played the game and I really don't see what is so amazing.
>>340804758
>they actually fucking voiced them too
why
>>340795237
>open world
DD is not the game you're looking for. The best thing about DD is the combat and big monsters you're fighting, not the open world or exploration. Exploring has some neat moments but the world in general is pretty bland, pretty small, and aside from the monsters in it has practically nothing to see. Hell, the best part of DD is the dungeon added in Dark Arisen, not the open world.
>>340804634
EAST SIDE FO' LYFE
>>340804523
What is it with TW3 fans being so hostile to other fanbases?
Like, it can be a thread only for TW3 discussion, and then suddenly somebody will come along and go "HEH, those.... DEUS EX FAGS sure are... BTFO cucked!!.... gottem again, bros!!" And the thread immediately devolves into backpatting instead of discussing the game.
Why don't they just talk about the game? I thought it was super huge?
new expansion got my dick hard. good feels and good closure. 200 hours in and I think I'm done for awhile.
>>340805030
Falseflagging. From both sides.
It's a meta trainwreck every single time.
>>340804634
A witch cursed me at a young age to only be physically incapable of enjoying games that come form Japan. My hands literally burst into flames when I try to play them, please understand.
>>340805030
>game
>>340805030
you got triggered as fuck.
>>340805138
>falseflagging, as a term, is now unironically applicable to video game fanbases
I don't know when or where we reached the point where we went too far, but it's time to go back.
>>340805030
They know their game isn't anywhere near as good as they think it is and that it's being adored as GOTY is a sign of how little journos and consumers value gameplay these days. They have to constantly put down other games in order to stay relevant.
