Why do people play this game again?
addiction, stockholm syndrome, to fit in on college campuses
>>340758743
Because it's well designed and free. It's only garbage because of the player base. To be completely honest, if it had a subscription fee, it would be a lot more tolerable. I would instantly agree to pay a fee if it meant that the number of 12 year olds and autists would be cut significantly.
also sunk cost fallacy
>>340758743
I play to win
>>340758743
Because it's free.
>>340758743
It fuels my rage. The only reason I get up in the morning is to rage at my shit teammates.
Pic related is best champ
>>340758743
Myfriendsplay it
>>340760987
>forced meta, same thing every fucking match
>cookie cutter characters made to fit into specific forced meta slots means only a few champions are worth picking per role in a given patch
>Riot constantly tries to vary up items but every time there's still always something dominating
>only around half the champion pool picked or banned in major tournaments
>"well designed"
LoL is designed like fucking garbage. Even when they force a meta so they have to balance the game around fewer scenarios it's a fucking mess, the game is dominated by per-patch fotm and the streamlined formulaic design means it's basically impossible for anything to be in a healthy spot rather than either being completely useless or being the only choice for something.
>>340761505
So you're saying that they should never balance/change anything and keep the game the same indefinitely? Constant buffs/nerfs add depth and variety to the game. There will always be champions that are better in different ways than other champions.
>>340761760
>So you're saying that they should never balance/change anything and keep the game the same indefinitely?
Where the everloving fuck did you get this from? How can anyone be this bad at reading comprehension?
No, they should change and balance the game so it's actually varied and not designed like hot garbage
It's free, doesn't recquire any grinding, runs on toasters and pretty much everyone plays it. Even girls.
>>340761886
>doesn't recquire any grinding
>>340761870
I'm not even going to waste my time explaining how retarded you sound.
>>340762950
>I was wrong - the post
Thanks for the show, anon
>>340761886
>doesn't recquire any grinding
What are runes?
>>340761870
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you ?
>>340761870
>pointing out the flaws in league's design means you think riot shouldn't change anything ever!
Don't bother anon, riot drones are too busy sucking riot cock and instalocking the flavor of the month champ to be aware of the game's flaws.
>>340763106
>no counter argument
You don't, apparently
>>340763017
> I spout bullshit and people aren't giving me the paragraph-long counter-argument I deserve: The post.
Did you not get enough attention as a lad?
>>340763221
>someone makes a valid argument against my game
>I can't come up with a rebuttal
>somehow I am still right
LoL players, ladies and gentlemen
Because I have spent four hundred dollars on it
>>340762950
Please do, sounds reasonable enough to me.
>>340763398
I spent $20 across four years of playing
You people are insane
>>340758961
This.
Plus the waifus.
>>340761870
I don't know if you even played the game.
>>340763386
>No, they should change and balance the game so it's actually varied and not designed like hot garbage
> Valid argument
Wow, such a deep analysis of the game, you summarized everything wrong with the game, I wish I was you.
>>340763681
Tried reading the post before it, you drooling fucking retard
>>340763668
>still no rebuttal
Riot is my favourite company - so progressive, and always in touch with the memes!
>>340763398
But I thought it was free? At least these autists said so
>>340761886
>>340761096
>>340760987
>>340763767
>Still no argument.
>>340758743
Because you touch yourself at night.
>>340758743
why does it bother you so much?
>>340763921
>I'm too lazy to click two backlinks to get to the argument so that means it doesn't exist
>>340761127
what the hell did they do to muh taric
>>340760987
riot is as terrible as the playerbase it serves.
>actively steers towards a specific meta
>whenever working on an older hero immediately hit their stuns
>new heroes are overloaded with shit
>some reworks are so big they destroy the feel of the hero
>hero cost went to 6300 to please their chinese overlords
>use of fake currency to obfuscate costs and make sure people always have a few points left over
>pendragon and guinsoo are around even though they are cancer
I enjoyed playing jungle, all of my favorite junglers got nerfed to the trash can. I can carry playing Lux and Ahri mid at a diamond level, but they're so goddamn boring to play.
That's why I quit. I quit playing months ago.
>>340763906
skins
>>340764101
Oh you mean >>340761505
Yeah that's not an argument, that's just stating the pattern of all MOBAs, and most multiplayer games for that matter.
>>340763921
Holy shit the riot drones have their head buried so deep in the sand they lost any ability to recognize criticism. No worries, just keep believing you game is perfect, also don't forget to buy our Lolicon Annie skin for the low price of 3250 RP. Thanks for being an excellent consumer! ;)
>>340763398
>just 400 dollars
step it up senpai
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1994153&page=2
>>340764465
>that's just stating the pattern of all MOBAs
So the only ones you've played are LoL and LoL clones
I should have figured
>>340758961
Played it for 4 years before qutting for a year now I'm back to it and can confirm with what this anon said
>>340764626
>So the only ones you've played are LoL and LoL clones
>LoL clones
>>340763106
Why are they allowed to just keep changing the game?
OH BOY, MONOPOLY IS MY FAVORITE BOARD GAME! THIS IS SUCH FUN
NO FAGGOT, YOU HAVE TO PLAY MONOPOLY VERSION 2.563432 NOW
EHHH THIS SUCKS, THEY REMOVED ALL THE FUN ASPECTS OF MONOPOLY THAT I GREW TO LOVE
Just had a game where our Teemo was griefing hard, even afk'ing in the jungle with his passive. I baited the enemy team to throw skillshots at me, dodged them and they killed the Teemo instead, best feeling
in answer to the OP, my best friends play it so I have fun regardless of the quality of the game
>>340764465
It's funny because every single one of those points only applies to LoL and the games that directly clone its structure
LoL players thinking they have any fucking clue what they're talking about because the terrible design of their garbage game is perceived as normal by them never ceases to amuse me
>>340763398
I only gave them $25, if skins were $2 a piece I'd buy 60 dollars worth real quick, but I'm not gonna pay $7 for one skin
>people conflating the problems of League with Dota because they're "MOBAs"
Remember when jungling wasn't mandatory?
>>340764465
>Tanky/Bruiser top lane
>Burst damage mid lane
>ADC + Support bottom lane
>Tanky/Bruiser Jungle depending on whichever item Riot made OP in the current patch
This is only setup that will ever work, no matter what you try, riot is so retarded that they don't recognizethat maybe shaking this up result in a better game, instead they are so desperately designing champions that won't break this formula that they are running out of ideas for new abilities.
>>340764946
>Games that directly clone it's structure
As in, all MOBAs? kek
Anyway, league is one of the most recent mainstream MOBAs anyway, so "clones" of it aren't really so, are they?
My only response is this
>mad cus bad
>>340763085
I think basic runes are free now.
Or at least T1 and T2 ones are.
>>340765176
>Anyway, league is one of the most recent mainstream MOBAs anyway
>most recent
You do know League of Legends came out 7 years ago?
For her <3
>>340765176
>Games that directly clone it's structure
>As in, all MOBAs? kek
Are all LoL players this stupid, or am I getting baited?
>>340763514
yeah I think I probably spent around $40 on it over the course of 4 years, fucking loved that battlecast cho'gath skin don't regret it at all
>>340765052
even in pre-season 1 when it wasnt "mandatory" having one almost always gave you an advantage if you had a good teamcomp
>>340765087
This is only true in high levels of play and even then, play differently if you want to.
Yea riot tried to stop adc junglers and mage top laners but it's up to you to make it work.
You're not locked into the meta because of the game; you're locked into the meta because you refuse to try something different. For example, thresh + rengar bot.
The game still tries to cater to only the upper echelon but that leaves plenty of viable gaps in lower elos.
Item + Rune builds are fun to create if you aren't bronze
Fun to play with friends
Fast and fun
>>340765564
That's just cheesing, anon. The only reason it works is because players don't see it coming.
>>340765052
Remember when you could take whatever heroes to whatever lane? That was the best, no worries and no meta. I hope they bring a new game mode where we can do this again
>>340765737
so?
>>340765176
>Anyway, league is one of the most recent mainstream MOBAs anyway, so "clones" of it aren't really so, are they?
What kind of logic is this? What does timeframe have to do with whether or not something is a clone?
>>340765564
>You're not locked into the meta because of the game; you're locked into the meta because you refuse to try something different.
No, you're LITERALLY locked into the meta because of the game.
If you don't follow it you're putting yourself at a distinct disadvantage, and now the matchmaking actually 100% forces it anyways.
I had fun with it for a few years until i quit in early/mid 2015
Returned a few months later and it was even worse than when I quit so I uninstalled and never looked back
>>340758743
I played my first game this year last night.
It was pretty fun.
People play it because it's fun.
>>340758743
because they're whipped beta nerds
>>340758961
>fitting in amongst the absolute nerdiest virgin loser scum
LMAO
its the only game my shitty friends want to play
>>340766116
do you consider yourself to be a whipped beta nerd?
>>340764626
>>>340764786
>>340764626
>>340764626
get rekt son
it's f2p
perfect blend of casual RTS/RPG elements (unlike dota which leans more towards RTS instead of RPG, they're both still MOBA's) and correct me if I'm wrong but league shits on dota in the waifu department and these games are predominantly played by teenage boys, do the math
>>340758743
MMO Experience without the committment, level up, get stronger abilities and buy items all within a 40 minute game
>>340765176
>'most recent mainstream MOBA'
>Claiming you game to be maintream
>Being this autasmic
people are quitting left and right though because they are tired of riot's bullshit
>>340765737
It takes a better player to realize it's cheesing and to capitalize on it appropriately. Otherwise, it's perfectly viable.
The game is a sandbox. Even with the meta worked in, you can circumvent it. I'm not saying it's easy but that's part of the fun. Not to name drop e-celebs but Discoheat always tried the unconventional. Take risks and see what works/what's fun.
Or pick a different game. Even with a well worn meta, the builds, comps, and various micro-situations are unique to most games in league. It's several magnitudes above "rock paper scissors" and it's what makes the game fun. It's what makes any multi-player game fun.
Even with picking riven top every game, you still face tons of different situations.
Did you see their jungler yet? When can you roam? Do you trade or farm in lane?
"Is bot lane in trouble and can you help?" proses tons of different variables that you need to consider before tping.
>tried to change to csgo
>i was fucking suck
>my friends didnt play with me anymore
>went back to league of shit to my old friends
>>340766723
lol fucking league players are pathetic
gues that's why their competitive only sees 1 kill by twenty minutes
>>340765967
No you aren't. You're putting yourself at a disadvantage because you don't understand your match ups.
In high levels, yea the enemy team might know how to counter you but if you play it well and understand the game, you can capitalize. Very rarely does riot completely restrict a champ from going to another lane (mainly healers/supports) and even then, you can still play it well to be useful.
>>340765737
what the fuck do you want
>play differently
>wah wah cheese
>play meta
>god this game is boring
I knew that the day companies started using social media to communicate and involve their fandoms games are only going to get shittier since no one knows what they fucking want and you can't just ignore the complaints either without PR strategies
>>340766873
>pathetic
I'm sure this is futile but why do you say that? Don't you do the same in other competitive games?
>>340766439
RTS element: It's top down view
>the perfect blend
I dont even know why people still play it. It stopped being fun after season 3.
Im pretty sure someone from riot confirmed that they wanted the game to take less mechanical skill. There wasn't even that much to begin with so why take away what little mechanical skill is left?
Also, the way they design champions 1) takes too long to release and 2) are designed for a specific role and nothing else.
>>340758743
Seriously if not the 'rune' system or whatever sorry excuse they came up with to make more money off you wasn't there, I would be probably playing lol now instead of dota. Seriously, this is candy crush mobile microtransactions tier, it's here to annoy and piss you off.
>>340758743
Because the game play is simple and stupid, also your failures can be blamed on your teammates instead of just yourself unlike a fighting game or something. Shit for brains genre for shit for brains people.
>>340767089
>No you aren't. You're putting yourself at a disadvantage because you don't understand your match ups.
If I have two duo lanes with no jungler, or if I lane a melee carry bot, I am putting myself at a disadvantage because LoL is strictly for the one formula to always be best. As soon as anything else rotates into flavor, Riot nerfs it until their forced lane and team comp meta is back in place as the most effective. You're fucking delusional.
And what's your response to the fact that matchmaking forces it now? You're conveniently ignoring that.
>>340758743
because their friends do. it's not as if it's a good game
>>340767212
genres develop
RTS became ARTS
ARTS became MOBA
many RTS mechanics and design elements like map objectives, resources did not magically disappear
>>340767458
>genres develop
Don't you mean devolve?
Just gonna drop an off-topic question, are there actually any good LoL youtubers? The only ones I like are Prof. Milk and Vvvortic, everything else I've seen is maximum garbage
>>340767237
>taking away mechanical skill
They actually made it more technical.
Taric no longer has a point and click stun.
Poppy's ult isnt just kayle's when you place it on a support
Brand requires you to land all three spells to do real damage
And all new champs are all based around positioning, roaming, skill shots, and combos. The pinnacle of skill in league.
it's fun
LoL's main problems lie in letting the Chinese vermin take over, not dealing with Flash appropriately early on and dragon existing at all.
Then they started introducing more retarded shit like percent damage on everything, AD scaling spells up the ass, knock ups...
MOBAs are literally vidya heroin. I've never seen another genre that brought out the worst in people like this shit.
>>340758743
>It's the only game my poor friends can play with me
>It's the only game my gf could play without losing interest(we've since broke up)
>It's familiar and learning a new moba is a hassle
>>340758743
To report each other
Feels good man
>>340765784
why do people say this?
i play garen adc bot and full tank annie top all the time and win every game
I have the feeling Drake has gotten less impactful than it was before. I often don't notice Stone and Wind dragons, and the Water dragons have been nerfed
>>340758743
Friends. You should get some. Also quit with the transitioning to a woman. Its making you bitchy.
Veigar is my husbando
>>340767669
>And all new champs are all based around positioning, roaming, skill shots, and combos. The pinnacle of skill in league.
My problem with this shit is that it's very low-impact mechanics in terms of the game as a whole. It doesn't interface much with the other players, it's effectively minigames you use as a player to do the same things older characters can just do with a few button presses - deal damage and pile on light CC.
The mechanical depth in a game like this should come from the way things interact with the game and enemy players in a strategic way, and not just be an input barrier to get off your basic damage and disables.
That's my problem with LoL's design. It has a lot of mechanics, but they're in the wrong place. Piling a bunch of meaningless complication onto your character's spells doesn't magically make the game deeper or require more actual skill.
>>340767837
>>340767837
They don't say it as if it's physically impossible. They say it because if you don't pick something entirely conventional then you're going to end up flipping a coin hoping someone on your team doesn't chimp out on you.
>>340763865
>be main fiddlesticks
>EUNE is down again
>make a EUW account
>level to 5
>buy Fiddlesticks
>open free chest
>Surprise Party Fiddlesticks
Made my fucking day
>>340767401
Roles are forced yea but that doesnt mean champs are forced into roles.
Play a melee bot lane. If you force them to cancel autos and have solid cc, you can win.
Play duo jungle. If you counter/gank often, you can make up for the deficit.
Play mage top. Ashe anywhere. Annie bot.
It requires some creativity though. Not everything works out well. The advantages of some to outweigh the advantages of the meta. You have to play it smart and pick wisely. The game can't offer competitive play with out a standard. This is the standard league wants and, imo, I like it better than dotas.
>>340758743
I started playing because of friends
And it happened to be when Illaoi came out and a friend got her for me.
I've been stomping kids with her and she happens to bring out the most salt in people which is great
>>340767637
PhyLoLs old stuff is pretty damn good, stonewall008 and bingegaming dotTV are in the same vein of just being purely informative and helpful.
Trick2g gets a lot of shit but his channel is also has a lot of great content to learn about the game.
As far as entertaining youtubers 99 percent of them are just really immature humor like most of youtube.
>>340767915
me too
>>340767637
Brofresco
>>340764215
pendragon was fired/quit (never know with riot) in like season 3
but yeah that one screencap of him is still relevant i guess?
The game would be better without flash seriously let's look at juggernauts for example
>le slow but damaging
yeah I care so much about low mobility as Darius if I can just flash - E someone while also wearing DPM that reduces one of my supposed weaknesses
>>340758743
Maybe they like it.
Also it's free, so easy to try, easy to fall back on.
>>340767936
>interact with the game and enemy players in a strategic way
Are you saying that the game doesn't have synergy? I don't think that's true.
Taric relies on someone to get close or his team to group.
Anivia and Talia can put up walls thay champs like brand, Vayne, and poppy can use to help chain cc.
I'd provide more examples but I'm not sure I follow. Most of these are still inherently in the game as "utility" skills. Yea theres tons of solo champions like fiora but they're trying to remedy that. Fiora even has an aoe heal.
>>340767736
one mistake can snowball the enemy team, and no one ever want to admit they were the ones who fucked up and ruined a 40 minute game for their team which is why you get this circle of blame bullshit
>>340768169
>Roles are forced yea
That's the problem.
>but that doesnt mean champs are forced into roles.
Nobody claimed this.
It is fun.
Only edgy contrarians and Valve fanboys shit on it
>>340768760
>Taric relies on someone to get close or his team to group.
>Anivia and Talia can put up walls thay champs like brand, Vayne, and poppy can use to help chain cc.
Neither of those come from the mechanical input combos newer characters need to use.
>>340761127
You're lying. You'd be perma banned
>>340758743
I was legitimately addicted to this game.
I played almost every day when I didn't have anything better to do and every game was the same shit. We lose, I get mad, we win, I still get mad at smaller mistakes. My mental and physical health took a nosedive because of how much stress this game caused me. It also took almost all of my excess income. Not even for champions, but for fucking skins.
The day I got permabanned was the happiest accident of my life. I thought if it ever happened I would fucking rage like nobody's business, but I didn't. I just fucking laughed and went to bed like nothing happened. I had just dropped $20 on some RP so I thought to myself they were just waiting until I made my next purchase before banning me forever.
Honestly, I'm glad they did it because looking at the state of the game, the company, and the amount of damage it could have done to me in the long term, I'd say they did me a favor by cutting me off.
>>340768342
Don't listen to him
>>340768804
Than play different roles that riot specified. It's a team oriented game with predetermined roles. If you think you can make it work, go for it but for most competitive games, this formula works fine. Play soccer without a goalie or a forward.
>>340768883
I'm not sure what you're asking then.
Most have combos they need to perform to do real damage (brands passive for example).
Most can use other champs to perform chained cc but not be useless if they don't have a specific team comp.
Please elaborate I'm confused.
>>340769343
just make a new account
>>340769343
Great job, I know how hard it is to drop an addiction like this
To me, the game is still fun, at least when I'm playing with buddies. The enjoyment is somewhat declining when I see all the unbalanced shit I have to put up with, but I'm not meaning to quit just yet.
If you're gonna post in this thread, at least post butts or webm's.
>>340769692
>play roles riot specified
Play roles riot didn't specify.* play against the role meta. The game was built around it though and to remove that is removing core elements of game play.
>>340769343
You must have had a sad pathetic life
>No icefrog
Bad luck on that shit.
>>340758961
This. I tried uninstalling 4 fucking times. I have irl friends who still play and I always come back
>>340758743
I played over 3000 games between release and the end of season 2 when I was in high school. Going back now, after a couple of years, it's pretty shitty. A few things I particularly hate now
>item shop is bloated with a bunch of overly designed/niche or plain useless items because Riot is obsessed with promoting build diversity and can't recognize that there will always be optimal/situational builds
>Riot tries too hard to make champions complicated and fun to play, but fails to realize people loved old champions for their simplistic, easy to grasp kits; challenge should come from mindreading the enemy and making decisions, not playing your champion
>expanding on the previous point, remakes regularly ruin old champions because Riot gets butthurt people prefer them over the new overdesigned shit
>CONSTANTLY adding complexity where it isn't needed or wanted: dragon/baron redesigns, new champs, items, ranked interface, masteries, etc. The list goes on
There's probably more but I don't care that much. All my friends quit after S3. I think after S2 the game plummeted in quality every season
>>340765519
The jungle creeps were stronger so only a few could do it and many of those still were in quite a danger. I remember only warwick and amumu being jungle, for other heroes it was possible but you should wonder if its worth the trouble. Also because the other team likely didnt have a jungler top would have to go 1v2. This limited top lane as well, since you needed something like nasus or morgana. That said the benefit of it was pretty large in pubs since they didnt deny top well and you basically had 4 farmed heroes and two solo lane leveled heroes while the pub team lost exp from the jungle as well as gold.
Either way initially riot wanted both 2-1-2 and 1-1-2-jungle to be viable. They even buffed exp gain for a double lane. But then they figured fixed lanes would make the game easier to understand for new players so they forced 1-1-2.
>>340770727
I'd disagree. Most of the changes added diversity to the game.
The item builds are much more situational now instead of the same kit on everyone. There's more than one optimal kit on most champs when it comes to damage dealing.
The complications added arent even that hard to grasp. Theyre usually proc effects. Land a spell? You'll do more damage. Get a kill with a spell? Mana refund or cd reset. No different than Annie or Akali.
Champs are made useful again. Taric, brand, and zyra were useless or unfair with their previous kits. Point and click stuns aren't fun or fair.
Dragons are weird now I agree but it could allow for a shift in game play. If your team doesn't need the buff, focus towers or counter jungling instead. I'm interested to see where it goes.
I get the nostalgia goggles but it needed an update. The game has tons of issues but nothing that makes it "unplayable".
>>340767837
people get butthurt if you take an ADC mid. While before ashe and MF were often to be played mid. But even if you would try MF ashe etc in mid you would struggle since they got nerfed to calculate the fact they always got a support on their ass
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>>340768783
do you think it would be less infuriating if the rounds were shorter and having teammates dropping out not be as cataclysmic? I think the main problem is how much of a time and effort investment MOBAs can be when its essentially a gamble on whether you're going to win or not.
>>340764960
SEVEN FUCKING DOLLARS FOR ONE FUCKING SKIN
pic related
>>340769692
>Than play different roles that riot specified.
I can't, because the matchmaking doesn't let me, I'll be putting myself at a disadvantage, and people will report me (especially since I'm throwing off the matchmaking).
>If you think you can make it work, go for it but for most competitive games, this formula works fine.
A team-based strategy game where you build a team out of 100+ unique characters should NOT force one specific way to build that team and play on the map. That's bad design, period.
Serious question, what the fuck is Illaoi? Apart from looking extremely unappealing, the skillset has to be one of the worst designs I've ever seen, from any game ever. It seems like it's specifically designed to scale with the enemy's stupididy, as well as their ignorance of her kit. And seeing how her skills have fucking novels as descriptions, that happens more often than you think.
>>340758743
crippling autism
Played it from end of Season 1 to Season 3, then played like once a month during Season 4 before totally dropping it. I think the averege player who gets into LoL drops it after 2-3 seasons, atleast from the people i know it was like that.
>>340764130
They reworked him last month.
Passive is mostly the same as before - cast a spell, your next two auto attacks hit rapidly and lower your cooldowns by one second.
Q is an AOE heal around you and whoever you're bonded with (more on that in a bit). The heal is kinda shit, but the longer you go without using it, the stronger it gets.
W gives yourself and an ally a shield if you target one, and you bond with that ally. Allies you're bonded with cast a copy of your spells from their body.
E is a line skillshot that takes about a second to charge, and after it's done you fire an instant stun that hits everything in its path. It's short ranged but you can move while charging it and obviously with the W bond it can get crazy.
R makes you charge for 2.5 secs, and then you do an AOE version of Kayle's invulnerability ult around yourself, and your bonded ally does one too. If you bond with the tank/front line fighter first you can shield your entire team from all damage.
He's a lot more powerful but requires more skill to play and get the most out of him now. Personally I miss Shatter.
How can one champion be so based.
>>340771873
This is why Dominion was superior. Game length had a hard cap of around 25 minutes. Even if the match was a total shitshow you knew it wasn't going to last forever, and it'd actually go much faster depending on how badly you were losing.
>>340772432
If I have to be honest I'm really disappointed. I remember someone promising that he would still be viable in top and jungle, and I just can't make it work, no matter what I try. It's just not made for that.
It's at a point where people I know who play LoL accept that DotA is a vastly superior game, and admit that they play LoL out of addiction and because they don't want to get through the proccess of getting good at DotA.
>>340772120
>disadvantage and my team will report
Like I said, pick smart. Unconventional means it can work. Picking whatever you want and telling riot to force it to work is beyond absurd and removes the entire aspect the game goes for.
>bad design
There's plenty of multi-role champs that are common. The actual roles in the game play more like the "restrictions" found in a traditional sport. Again, it's like playing soccer without a goalie or a forward.
Youre not forced into anything other than having specific roles. Even on that level, you can break some of them and be viable if the opposing team isn't sure how to counter.
What's being forced is still 20+ champs per lane. Without repeating champions in 10 picks, thats still a pretty substantially diverse amount of games based on picks alone. Factor in that games take 30-60mins could mean you might not see the same match up for several days.
>playing multiplayer games where you are forced to heavily rely on your team
>All these baddies complaining because they're bad
Don't mind me, just being Diamond. Top 1% of ranked players.
>>340773018
>Like I said, pick smart. Unconventional means it can work. Picking whatever you want and telling riot to force it to work is beyond absurd and removes the entire aspect the game goes for.
Alright then, tell me an alternate lane layout that is competitively viable at a high level and tell me how I'm supposed to actually make it happen in a match when the matchmaking makes me pick into Riot's forced meta.
>blah blah blah
I'm still not seeing how any of that lets me actually creatively use the champion pool to build my own team comp and map layout like any actual strategy game should let you.
Comparing this to field sports is apples and oranges.
>>340773119
>caring about the 1% of players in a videogame.
its not money
>>340761886
>It's free, doesn't recquire any grinding, runs on toasters and pretty much everyone plays it. Even girls.
You do realise you spend 90% a match just grinding gold right?
>>340772120
>That's bad design, period.
No, it's A design. Nothing is inherently bad about having roles and characters that fit them. I see you used the word "should". Now, that's bad. See, "should" is a poisonous concept that seeps into logic and slowly but surely kills it. It's your feelings wrestling with your thoughts, and trying to co-mingle, as if they belong there. How you feel rarely matters when it comes to the more concrete aspects of design, such as what a roster of characters is and isn't capable of. If you want to play a game where everyone can do everything, that's fine, that's your desire, but different people like different things. I'd hope you'd realize this.
>>340773472
That would be 40% of the match including a laning phase.
>>340773426
Posting on /v/ isn't making money either, so you shouldn't post at all.
Unless you're butthurt about being bad at LoL. :)
>>340773527
Is this satire?
>>340772982
LoL also has a progress attached to your account: leveling, champion mastery, runes, rune pages, champions bought, skins, season rewards and titles, time and event exclusive skins. Its really not much a option to leave LoL for other moba for people who already spent lots of time and money in it.
>>340773746
I'm glad I quit 4 years ago.
>>340758743
>>340758961
>>340760997
Basically they tried it, and it was kinda fun so they kept playing. The more they played the more they got "invested" (sometimes even doing investing, by buying skins 'n RP 'n shit) the more they got invested the more they identify with it, the more they identify with it the less likely they are to see it's flaws and move on to a different game.
Basically the more they play the less likely they are to stop playing or start playing something else.
>>340773373
>tell me how to pick creatively
You pick creatively. Simple as that. Pick who you want in your lane and continue. Whether it works or not depends on how well you understand the overall match up.
At high levels, they make the metas by doing exactly that.
>pick my own comp
Find 4 friends then. Come up with an all healers build. Or all tanks. You're working around a game with certain standards to keep it competitive. The goal is to have a specialized team but that doesn't mean you cant weigh specializations more valuable than others.
>different maps
Agree 100% the game has a lot it could do to favor more creative play. However that doesn't mean you're always locked into certain champs with certain roles.
"Korn, anyone?" *cranks up Korn "got the life" and rips open a bag of honey roasted peanuts.
Cause if you aren't a sperg lord about it, it can actually be fun
>>340773746
I still wonder if I could get any money off of my old account. Haven't touched it in years, but it was pretty loaded in terms of runes, skins, and champs.
Being able to walk away from that feels pretty great when you realize the rat race doesn't really matter.
Where are the lifetime RP rewards Riot Promised 2 years ago?
>>340774110
>You pick creatively. Simple as that.
Nice non-answer. I'm telling you to prove to me that you can actually deviate from that forced meta by giving me an example of one that actually works and is accepted by the community. Is there a reason you're dodging around it? Maybe it's because there aren't any?
>Find 4 friends then.
That can't always be done, the fact that the game's systems actively prevent you from trying anything different is still a huge problem.
>>340773527
Just because some people like shit design doesn't magically mean it's not shit design, anon
>>340772880
It really isn't. He's basically a support through and through now. He's better at it than he used to be, but he lost the option of going top or jungle now.
Because Dota is too ugly.
>>340758743
It's scientifically formulated to be addictive.
>>340774770
>>340760987
Free or subscription, PC gamers are all the same.
POST LOLIS AND BUTTS ALREADY THIS GAME IS NOT WORTH "ACTUAL" DISCUSSION FUCK
>>340774983
>>340774770
>tfw dota has no cuties
>>340774423
>there isn't any
There are. Akali top and jungle. Graves top. Jihn jungle. Nami top. Thresh top/mid.
>community accepted
People are a afraid of change in league. You're not going to get acceptance some games. Happens. But they can't report you for trying to break the meta.
>I want to pick other people's champs for them
Youre living in a pipedream not to mention it's not up to you. The game is a team game. You need a team if you want a different comp. Otherwise people will pick what they're comfortable with.
They're actively trying to keep a structure to the game competitive. If it's a free for all than the game easily loses focus.
>>340773707
Underage Zed main detected
>>340775502
>Akali top
Unbelievably shit on by Ekko and Maokai.
Why the fuck would you suggest playing someone who loses to the most common top laners in the game?
>>340775617
Maokai and Ekko top shit on anyone desu senpai
That's why I play mostly bot lane
>casual dota with pants on head retarded game designers
don't know desu
>>340758743
They are faggots who want to be in a league I suppose.
Can't sell my account for a reasonable price.
The community that buys accounts are massive jews.
>>340774152
This. I generally have fun barring some bullshit where someone intentionally goes out of their way to fuck the team over. I'm not a big fan of this new queue system but it can lived with for now.
>>340775617
Because people found a counter to it doesn't mean it isn't viable. Same if someone picked Lee top. It's a counter in lane match up but that doesn't stop a good player from farming as much as they can and making good roams. Akali can do well with a backdoor tp. You use her strengths to win.
>>340774116
what?
>>340775502
>There are. Akali top and jungle. Graves top. Jihn jungle. Nami top. Thresh top/mid.
None of those are different lane compositions.
Are you retarded?
>bad Dota
posting butts
>>340776313
What's a lane composition then? I'm under the impression that the lane composition has to do with the typical champ that goes to those lanes. Busier/tanks for top lane.
You can have squishy top laners, and junglers. Typically that's not the case.
>>340776848
>What's a lane composition then?
jungler in every game, solo lane mid and top, support with a specifically ranged carry bot
That's the problem, that formula and how you're forced to plug into it
>>340777777
>>340776801
>tfw my favorite artist will never do lewds again
>>340777745
It's the structure riot has taken and the community has formed to it. You can break it but expect flaming and have a solid understanding of how the game works otherwise you're going to get bodied.
The game has you benefit more from playing different champs in different roles. Want something similar to two duo lanes? Pick an assassin or utility jungler and camp a lane. You can even pick melee adcs as well.
But the game is replayable because of the micro situations and meta roles. If it doesn't appeal to you, than don't play. It has objectively less complexity to other mobas but that's part of its appeal.
it's gonna be a bit late for this but the greatest problem with this game is that they nerf every character so bad one after another all the time, it already started to feel like character difference is going to be all about animations and colors
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Shouldn't that be Ass of Faggots?
>>340777745
Im not gonna reply again. This is starting to feel cyclical.
The more creative roles implemented the more complicated the game is and difficult it is to maintain. Currently, i don't see anything wrong with current lane comps. There are rarely sterile or samey matches when I play. There's enough diversity to keep me interested.
For best fish girl
>>340779218
>The more creative roles implemented the more complicated the game is and difficult it is to maintain.
That's kind of exactly my point, that Riot has to force one strict way to play the game in order to come even close to balancing it and even then it's a fucking mess.
>>340758743
It's designed by retards for retards, came out before dota and Riot spends all their time and money on marketing and scummy business, video-game players are more likely than not stupid normies.
>>340774770
>>340775148
Hmmm...?
>>340781195
>Pugna will never be a cute loli
