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How do you guys think they should buff D.Va?
How do you think they should nerf Widowmaker?
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Remove D.Vas crit box
Or
Make it smaller and remove speed reduction

Its going to be something tiny though that wont make much of a difference
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D.va:
> Ult should be only take 2 seconds to explode
> Less of a crit box
> Maybe better shields or damage
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>>340703685
THICC
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increase the delay between widowmaker's shots

she can fire off hitscan bullets faster than pharah can fire rockets
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>>340703945
>2 second detonation
>q becomes suicide button instead
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>>340703685
Stop spamming your crappy game on /v/ and go back to your general stupid nigger piece of shit
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>>340703685
Onii-chan, buy me buffs!
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>>340703685
Make ult detonate on key press.
No slowdown when firing.
Headshot hitbox moved to the back (it's a mecha).
Deals slightly more damage.
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>>340703685
I'm sorry but I'm gonna need to know more about that D.Va
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>>340704106
Oh man, imagine those PotG's rolling in. Just D.Va suicide bombers.
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Buff D.va. Pick one and she'll be less bad
>Shield lasts longer
>Self destruct goes through the payload
>Boost does more damage/has higher knock back
>Guns do more than 1 point of damage
>More health
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Remove Mccree and Widowmaker. Boom the game is 100% more fun.
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>>340703685

couldn't have said it better

http://www.gamerampage.net/all/buckle-up-here-are-our-proposed-changes-to-overwatch
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>>340704323
Butterface.
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>All these people who don't know that thicc D.va's face looks like a Junkrat tire
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>>340704359
>they put in a new voice line for her ult
ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>340704715
I'm not interested in lookin at her face.
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>>340704626
>>340704715
paper bag that shit dawg
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>>340703685
more of that chicks booty
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Post longer version of that gif, I wanna see that dva cosplayers booty do work
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>>340703685
GET UP
COME ON
GET DOWN WITH THE THICKNESS
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>that reaper just awkwardly swaying
How fitting
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>>340703945
>should take 2 seconds to explode
Fuck off, i won't be able to launch it into the sky and drop it down for insta sextuple death
If anything fix her Damage or her Deletion Shield
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>>340704909
>you will never lick the sweat from Mei's body
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>>340704853
>implying i didn't search the bottom of heaven to find a longer version
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>>340704626
Who cares about her face
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>Make Ult detonate faster
What a terrible idea.
This just fucks over people with no movement, whom already get fucked by D.Va

What you wanna do is either make her more annoying to the backline or not fold like wet tissue paper as soon as she starts firing.
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>>340703685
Shrink crit box
Add an alt fire for meka that fires like a minigun while keeping the shotgun blast on primary
Have her boost be better at pushing people
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>>340705172
>tasting someone else's sweat
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>>340705290
An alt fire of rockets would be pretty neat, would give her /some/ accuracy while also allowing her to take care of builders and Bastion, as it stands only Junkrat and Pharah are really anti-builders and One of them way outclasses the other.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqrxNGvGHs

Read the comments for what you seek.
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>>340705481
Seems a lil too OP I'm not talking about replacing her boost or shield
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this thread is boring let's spice it up a bit

1/4
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>>340705935
>vore
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I like ugly chicks.
Pls post Dva face
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>>340706142
How loose would your ass have to be to just swallow a persons whole with no resistance. People are entitled to their fetishes but damn some that's fucked up.
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>>340704909
>no large areole spilling from the outsides

shit picture
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Pick one
>move and shoot at full speed
>signifigant reduction in jet cooldown
>removal of headshot hitbox while in mech/reduction in headshot damage taken
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>>340706251
Not even with theoretical physics can we answer that. You'd pretty much have to be made of slime for something like that to even begin working.
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>anal vore
Well at least it's not cock vore.
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You are all crazy if you think D.VA is getting rockets or increased damage, or any buffs to her Ult. She's a tank. Every tank's Ult has utility, whether it's push, knockback/down, or forcing people to scatter off the objective/payload.

Like many character's Ults, hers is best used in conjunction with a teammate like a Pharah forcing people into LOS via concussive blast or a Mei walling or slowing them down, or a Zarya blowing her Ult.

Her shield is invulnerable and good.
Her boost is really good, especially if you play aggressively.

At BEST they'd extend the boost duration and lower the cool down. I don't think mobile firing is necessary for her either.

Helpful new ability for her? She puts a movement speed debuff on targets hit by her boost. There, fixed, and more utility.
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Something i'd love to see that wouldn't harm the balance too much is have her mech jump into the air about 5-10 feet just before it explodes, this just increases its effectiveness against people in low cover who perhaps shouldn't be protected in the first place
But in all honesty to fix her you need to do something about her critbox
>>340704581
>stealth hero
please no
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i found ugly Dva on facebook

/VampletteCosplay

youtube link too

/watch?v=VUqrxNGvGHs
go to 8:35
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>>340705935
>>340706048
>>340706142
>>340706231
UHUUUHHH MMMM UUUUH
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>>340704460
>he has trouble with Mcrees

hahahahaha faggot
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Nerf:
>Widow, she needs a dicking in one or more of her rate of fire, body shot damage, charge rate, dps of her smg, ult uptime
>Mcreeeeee, fuck his combo with a rake, the stun needs to be toned down in some way, and fan needs a nerf in raw damage it can do so easily and quickly, I'd arguably buff his ult because its useless.
>Lucio, have his healing aoe be lower but get larger when he amps it up
>Mercy's ult charge rate
>Hanzo and Junkrat need something to stop them from just spamming non stop at chokes for easy kills. Lower junk's ammo/rate of fire, make his grenades only explode on touch if they haven't bounced and lower Hanzo's damage unless he fully charges the arrow. His scatter arrow shouldn't be able to one shot anyone without aiming, rather have it do less damage over a more consistent area
>Tracer needs to either regain her blinks slower or do less DPS
>FIX THE GODAWFUL HITBOXES

Buffs:
>D.va of course, give her a cannons less spread and falloff, change the critbox somehow, make her ult either charge faster or be less obvious, lower her raw DPS in zero suit form and give her some abilities so it's a bit more fun
>Fix Reaper's teleport aiming, it's shit, maybe replace a little of his health with armor so he doesn't get absolutely fucked when he isn't in dick sucking range, maybe increase his speed a little or reduce his spread too
>Either give Pharah more health or some armor, or give her the ability to move when she ults
>Give Zen more suitability through HP or armor, make his harmony orb last out of LOS or make them heal a lot faster
>Remove Winston needing to reload
>Give tech support ability to charge ult while teleporter is up, or just fix the shit spawns requiring running half the map and give her a new ult
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WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE FUCKING VIDEO IN OP YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
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BUFF TRACER
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>>340703685
why is it impossible to find that video on youtube
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>>340706761
>mercy ult rate

But this is stupid, mercy is inferior to lucio in everyway barring her ult.
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>>340705935
That's not fucking cool dude.
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>>340706142
Nigga this ain't even vore. This is closer to unbirth or some shit

I don't even like either but the artist could at least learn his terms.
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>>340706689
not that ugly

thick ass booty makes up for her giant schnoz
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Removing the speed debuff while firing makes the most sense because it was a balance to her initially strong guns. Her guns are weak as piss now so her movement should be normalized.

The reason Winston is 100% better than D.VA right now is that he does more DPS while having the same mobility without even having to aim, cant hit multiple targets, a good shield, and a much better "area denial" ult.
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>>340703685
I've seen so many people call this girl a butterface but I've never seen a source to back it up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqrxNGvGHs

8:34

Someone please make a decent webm out of this.
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>>340706689
>>340703685
>>340703685
>>340703685
>>340703685
>>340703685
>>340706796
>>340706796
>>340706796


https://youtu.be/VUqrxNGvGHs?t=8m34s

YW
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>>340703685
reapers guns take a bit longer to spawn

zen higher rate of fire, able to throw heal/discord orb while charging

less cooldown on lucios push

thats all I can think of through my experiences
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>>340707102
>/watch?v=VUqrxNGvGHs
>2 second clip
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>340706940
Nigga she literally can't be hit what more do you want.
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Buff Zarya's shield. Make it last longer or make the cool down only last 4-5 seconds. Once people realize shooting her shield gives power, you have to be really careful with who you give it too and how to use it.

Either that or make it so her lazer doesn't power down.
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>>340706981
yeah shes pretty ugly but whatever. its not like you're gonna see her face while you fuck her doggy
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>>340707202
I can see reducing the cooldown on the shield. She is really feast or famine based on that shield. One bad shield and you are useless until if off cooldown.
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>>340707102
>Those beetlejuice cosplays

unexpected.
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why is mei so fat?!
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>>340706142
It's a shame. They draw a sexy tracer.
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>>340707102
She has them hips but that face tho...

>dat Mei

sweet jesus
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>>340707458
because she's cuddly like a panda
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>>340706231
>gotta remember that trick
Travers new ult is engulfing a hero a la Mr. Garrison
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>>340707202
>Either that or make it so her lazer doesn't power down.

you are out of your fucking mind
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>>340707090
on it
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>>340706231
>No page 5 with scat and bone disposal
Sucks, lad
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>>340707761
doin gods work son
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>getting stunned and right clicked to death

What interactive gameplay

Not to mention the instakill ultimate that can target multiple enemies
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D.va only needs a slight buff if any, she has the highest win rate for a tank already. Her damage output should stay the way it is, tanks aren't meant to have high damage. She'll probably get a buff to her survivability.
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>>340707680
I think you mean Mr. Slave.

>>340706967
Nurr, ackshually, it's ANAL vore.
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>>340706761
not bad, most balance ideas i see here are trash
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>>340706967
anal vore

it's a thing. so is dick vore, and sure if you look hard enough, you can find tit vore.
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>>340704909
shes really fat
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>>340703685
high mmr player here lads

only problem in pubs is widows mcree isnt that bad im sure its bad in pro play but widows in pubs are just fucking cancer
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>>340707860
I do want a buff on her survivability. I do very well with her but she goes down extremely fast. Mainly from that crit box on her.
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Nerfs
>McCREEE flashbang axed. Replaced with dynamite toss. Fanned shots ricochet off armor, dealing minimal damage.
>Widowmaker's HP down to 150. Damage down to 100 over a 1.5 second charge.
>Tracer's blinks are all used up when recalling.
>Winston gains +500 HP when going bananas instead of instantly going from 1 to 1000.
>Fix Lucio's goddamn hitboxes, alternatively, reduce healing aura's effectiveness on himself.

Buffs
>D.Va's critbox damage modifier down to 1.3x
>Torb's turret doesn't feed ult meter when damaged.
>Zenyatta's harmony/discord orbs merged to one key. Some sort of new ability added.
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>>340707102
>8:35

2 SECONDS?! FUCK!
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>>340703685
>Shit ton of armor for health
>Dash that recharges pretty fast
>Instant shield that negates every projectile, including ults
>Infinite auto shotgun

Why does D.VA need a buff again?
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Just add a hero that is immune to flashbangs, headshots, and stuns.

Shift ability is a shield that absorbs damage and heals the hero and the e ability is a giving that shield to a team mate.

Boom game ruined

Also change Symmetra to a defense hero.
She's barely a support hero.
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>>340706940
BUTT TRACER
TRACER BUTT

it all makes sense now
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Widow's charge time for her sniper rifle takes longer, also the damage doesn't increase that great until 100%

McCree gets a longer cool down with his flash bang and they drop his HP.

There I fixed the biggest problems.
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>>340703827
Tbh D'va needs several buffs. Remove the critbox to make her more viable as a tank and buff her mech weapons.

Even in close range you do terrible damage.
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>>340707508
Stop whining. She's about to pull off some Widowmaker cosplay.
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>>340707805
It's meh

have to set your player to loop obviously
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>>340704314
>Move critbox to the back
This would absolutely fix her.
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>>340708423
thanks will cum to later jew nose or not
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>>340708423
Who's the Mei?
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>>340708423
That ass is ridiculous.

>>340708517
momokun. Also known as thicc samus
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>>340707508
>dat 10/10 qt reaper

HELP
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>>340706761
>nerf tracer
do u srsly have trouble with tracers
kys
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>>340708360
How the hell does she look so much better here?
it's night and day
I don't get it
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>>340705245
Okay

>Tame body proportions
>Horrid personality
>Grating VA
>Terrible aesthetic
>No good skins
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>>340708714
everyone looks good from that angle

not to mention its a single photo on her terms rather than a video out in the middle of a day
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>>340708714
Angle and Lighting.
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>>340708714
myspace angles

She isn't really ugly, just has a giant jew nose.
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>>340707828

>spoiler

HEY

DON'T SHITTALK SOLDIER 76
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>>340708785
>>340708791
>>340708824
And to think people I meet call me smart
I don't know whether to be embarrassed for me or for them
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>>340703685
>How do you guys think they should buff D.Va?

Her "E" shield should give increase your "Q" charge by a percentage based on how much damage it absorbed.
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>>340708972
it just means you didnt have to discover these tricks yourself to make yourself look fuckable on myspace
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>>340703685
>How do you guys think they should buff D.Va?
after launching her Ult. you can detonate it. barring that a shorter timer on it.
>How do you think they should nerf Widowmaker?
50 less damage on full charge body shot and a laser dot so you can know shes waiting around the corner ready to kill you. like the TF2 Sniper. also drop the damage or the mag size for the assault rifle.
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>>340706749
How do you counter McCree?
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>>340704581
>Open this
>Where the stealth hero at?
>Close tab immediately
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MY DICK

I MEAN MY BUTTHOLE ALSO PROSTATE
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>>340707102
>Girls at Fanime being whores

Not surprised.
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>>340709332
by having fast enough reflexes to reflect as Genji or go ghost form with Reaper, then just hope for the best. there really is no hard counter to him.
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>>340709474
has anyone here gone to one of these?

how whorey are these girls really?

would it be worth it to slap on some snake cosplay or something to go fuck some easy 6/10 whores dressed to look like 10/10 wiafus
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>>340709336
It really worries me that Sandra or whatever her name is meant to be is going to have stealth
She's going to be a sniper and that's bad enough
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>>340703685
>that Reaper
I lost hard.
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You don't hear Winston mains complaining he can't do damage. Well some shitters, but most realize he does his job well and if he dealt good damage he'd be OP. Give D.Va a slight survivability buff if you really need to but for Christ's sake she's does her job as well. I've played with good D.Vas so stop with the fucking excuses.
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>>340709658
Sombra is allegedly a support sniper, and if she winds up with a cloak then all the better. Last thing I want to worry about is an offensive assassin sneaking up on me with invis. If a support gets it instead then so be it.
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>fix the obscenely large hitbox on every character
game is fixed
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>>340704581
>stealth hero
that completely breaks and undermines the flow of the game. there are plenty of ways to counter Torbjorn and Bastion and stealth characters like the Spy aren't team players so you'd basically be down a player with one.
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>>340709904
I main Winston and even i agree that D'va is dogshit
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>>340709912
>support with invis
>can make others invis
>yfw getting splattered by invisible Reins
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>>340705157
This shit doesnt work, Ive tried like three times today with the entire fucking team below me and still didnt kill anyone. People arent that fucking stupid as soon as the hear "nerf this" they run for cover.
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>>340709987
Exactly, the only thing that attracts useless team members more than snipers is stealth characters.
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>>340709520
Deflect is useless against McCree. His nade interrupts your E or he can flank you while you're stunned.
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>>340708138
>Winston nerf
For real?
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>>340710624
I have reflected his stun grenade a few times. if it doesn't hit you the grenade will stun you but if its a direct hit while reflecting you shoot it back. downside is that depending on when you hit your E the stun will run out before reflect ends and McCree can still hammer fan you the second your reflect ends.
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>>340711002
Just hit shift, it cancels his deflect
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>>340708219
The shotgun does no damage
All survivability means nothing when her critbox lets even the weakest enemies shred her much
Her shield stops her doing any damage, lasts barely any time and takes ages to recharge
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Bastion needs a rebalance.

>Double his weapon spread in turret mode
>Allow him to move very slowly while in turret mode

His accuracy is unforgiving with this tickrate but anyone playing bastion is fucking useless if they aren't sitting in a perfect place.
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>>340711082
that would be terrifying. I mean what if she blinks onto your dick wrong and it like fuses into her?
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>>340710624
Genji vs McReeeee is about who gets lucky with with the standoff. It's literally high noon in Genji/Mcree encounters to see who presses E at the right timing.
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>>340703685
Reduce D.Va's critbox
Reduce Widowmaker's bodyshot damage
Reduce McCree's FtH damage
Remove Mei from the game

I fixed the game you guys
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>>340711520
>Remove Mei

This is not how you make a world worth fighting for.
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>>340708841
>S76 ult
>Instakill
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>>340711196
no. what he needs is a spin up on his minigun, it also needs to be really loud so you can hear it spinning up and react. the problem with bastion is coming round a corner and dying before being able to react. Torbjorns turret isn't as strong and has a slower rate of fire giving you a chance to react. I mean the TF2 turret has a beep to let you know you are in its sights. this is very much the same problem with Widowmaker, you don't know she's there til its to late.
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>>340711520
>Remove Mei from the game
no. the only thing Mei needs is a slight increase to the time it takes to freeze people.

I also think her robot should be destroyable but you can balance that out by having it quickly dart around the area its freezing making it hard to hit. this isn't as important but it would be nice to have a chance to escape if you play a character who doesn't have a way to escape it.
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>>340704909
GENTLEMEN
WE MUST GO

THIQQER
H
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Q
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>>340707508
Bitch looks like a tranny. No wonder she has to keep showing off her ass while cosplaying as the least sexualized character.
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>>340712067
Too many nerfs for a bottom tier character.
If you want her ult to be killable it needs to freeze everything the second it lands and when new enemies enter the area on top of dealing twice as much damage. There needs to be some reward to a skill that tobjorn/winston/symmera can end just by looking at it.
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>>340712553
thats why I said it moves quickly around the area making it hard to get a bead on. it can also not be locked on with any weapon. I also said that one isn't as important as just a small nerf to the time required to freeze you with her regular weapon.
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>>340708219
Because shes not very tanky for a tank.
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>>340712284
>[PROTEINS EXTERNALLY}
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>>340712941
neither is Zarya, and Symmetra is a terrible support.
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>>340707007
NERF THIS!
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One of the nerfs I want the most for widowmaker is a telegraph to her ult
There's even a telegraph for symmetra's teleporter but not widowmaker
It just feels inconsistent
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>>340713456
You have to be really close to widow to hear it, which defeats the point. It should also deactivate if she dies.
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>>340713563
just have a team-mate say "we're being watched" or something along those lines, similar to symmetra's
It doesn't exactly make sense for her to be shouting
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>>340703685
D.va is useless. Just accept it.
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>>340707508
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>>340711082
...is that eroquis?
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>>340703685
>D.Va
Reduce the head critbox size. This one is definitely needed

Now adding to that, either:

>Make her move faster while firing

>Lengthen the Matrix with another second or 2.

>Tighten the spread of the Miniguns or give it some range at least

>Make the ultimate do reduced damage over those hiding within its vicinity. I mean, are you serious that you can even hide behind a lampost and take no damage?

That's all I can think off. I have others but it will go to obvious wishful thinking.

>Widowmaker

Make her do less damage on body shots. That's it really. With that it becomes an indirect buff for Zenyatta as well.
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>widowmaker, hanzo, and LITRALLY EVERYONE nerf/buff-
>fix the awful goddamn hitboxes
>get some non garbage 20 tick servers
Bam, game is signifigantly improved.
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When does leaver penalty go away?
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>How do you guys think they should buff D.Va?

dual PPC
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>>340718095
>Reduce crit area size
>Remove ! Indicator on her ult, the giant green lightshow should be enough
>Reduce slow on firing her guns
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>>340703685
Anyone else like using Zenyatta to counter teams of beefy characters more than as a support?
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>>340707828
don't forget about the massive fucking hitboxes.
game takes skill, mang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
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>>340706231
what in gods name...
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>>340714114
fucking this. this guy is not sure of what he's seeing
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>>340708423
No offense to you anon, but could someone make a better webm?
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>play tracer
>get in skirmish with roadhog
>he hooks me post-dash by aiming at my pre-dash position

Fix the garbage servers

>play literally anyone else
>get grabbed/sniped around corners because hitboxes

Fix the hitboxes

>play roadhead
>hooks for days, healing on ridiculously short cooldown, good mid-short range damage

As much as I want them to fix the earlier problems, I love me some Roadrage.
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>Mystery Heroes
Can we all agree that this mode needs to be a permanent thing from now on?
It's so good.
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>>340704909
That's not real thick
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>>340719608
fuck that

someone make a webm out of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqrxNGvGHs 8:38
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>>340719661
>Run around corner
>See bastion fire at me
>Run behind corner
>Still die
>Look at kill cam
>I just stood there
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>>340718095
>Put 8 PPCs as my weapons
>fire all weapons command
>Explode instantly due to overheat
I miss mechwarrior 2..
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>>340719739
>so good
>just determined by who can luck into Bastion first and now can't be counterpicked
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>>340707176
>buffing lucio
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>Widowmaker is getting the nerf instead of Hanzo.
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>>340719894
>run into fight
>get oneshot
>check killcam
>someone was spamming me down, but I couldn't tell because shit servers

I feel you 100%
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>>340719739
Mystery heroes, aka, "who can accidentally settle into the best team comp first and proceed to wipe the floor"
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>>340704068

lower hp to 150 and increase charge time for shots, that's literally all she needs.

A class that stays way behind and snipes from a distance doesn't need 200 hp like the offensive classes.
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>donated to her patreon
i have lost to the booty
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>>340720050
>hanzo needs a nerf
>the objectively shittier sniper
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>>340719739
I've been loving this shit, don't listen to these whining ninnies. They just can't except that sometimes they'll lose
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>all these attention starved normies crowding video games

I need a new hobby.
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>>340703685
Let D.va shoot while defense matrix is up, and give her mech a right click
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Torbjorn's turret needs nerfing. Either make the cool down really long so he can't put another one up 8 seconds after destroying one or reduces the range and give it some damn lock on time. Degateagly but maybe it should have turn time so it can miss if you move around too much. I'd be fine with a damage buff if that was the case. But as it is now, it's just so unfun to go against
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>>340703685
I want Tracer to have more vertical movement.. kinda like Lucio.
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>>340722225
Fuck that. Getting up on high points is the only real defense snipers and support have against a decent tracer.
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>>340719739
Trash desu. I liked Super Shimada Bros. much more.
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>>340722602
>tfw zen and symmetra don't have this either
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>>340722926
Honestly, Zen feels more like an offense character that has some healing built in than a proper support.
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>>340706761
Zero Suit D.Va should be bad though, so people don't intentionally play like shit just to get her out of the mech
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>>340723518
As is, I feel way stronge rout of her mech than in it. Her pistol shits damage at high range. She SERIOUSLY needs either an effective range buff on her normal weapon, or, better yet, much faster movement speed while firing.
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>>340703685
daar sta je dan
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>>340709904
Winston can burn through the non-tank characters in a few seconds without even aiming, and multiple characters at once too.

Dva honestly only distrupts enemies for a while and that's it, she's like a weaker Winston.
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>>340707102
It's not that bad though

still not really my type
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>>340717924
Supposedly it's a proportion of your games. Like if more than 10 of the last 20 (not sure about figures) games had you leave, then you'll have penalty. So you have to complete a bunch to get back
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>>340723518
That's why I recommenced nerfing the damage she puts out with the pistol, it's actually quite a beast especially compared to the mech. But she does need something else to do than just jump and shoot while doing that.
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Nerf Mei. People complain about Mcrees flashbang combo, but Meis freezing is just as fucking bad if not worse.

Buff Dvas guns so they do more damage at close range.

Increase the damage for Reinhardts melee attacks. It shouldn't take four fucking swings to kill someone with a character who has very few range attacks.

Nerf Mcree for obvious reasons

Nerf widow maker for obvious reasons

Everyone else is fine.
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Molten Core should either:
1.) Not raise the Turret to Lv.3 unless Torbjron personally upgrades it
2.) Not raise the Turret to Lv.3 if it has some damage on it
3.) Not fully heal the Turret
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>>340725082
>not upgrade unless in a certain range
>end if Torb dies
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>>340703685
2xMei on some maps is just god awful.
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>>340725075
>Meis freezing is just as fucking bad if not worse
But most heroes have a way to dash out before they get completely frozen. Stop trying to shoot the mei while she's freezing you and just get out of her range first.
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>>340703685
holy shit I wish I had gone to the Overwatch gathering now
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>>340725082
>>340725215
As much as I agree with these, torbjorn really doesn't need a nerf, he's frustrating to play against, yes, and something like this will probably happen for console players but doing this to PC torbjorn is going to make a mediocre character bad
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>>340725075
Someone got butt blasted by a mei player pretty hard.
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>>340706231
>once the payload reached the destination
This is what I miss from my pubs. Why can't people like her play in my team?
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I'm drawin this nonsense

I hope you like the idea. It's gonna take forever.
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reposting this from another thread but I want to to see a consensus either way
http://www.strawpoll.me/10367440/
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>>340709643
Yes, many people.
Pretty god damn whorey usually. Like the Mei and D.Va acted totally innocent and unassuming, and then would willingly and loved to do pics and videos like that.
Sure, plus it's fun and has a big vendor hall.
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Is overwatch dead? I feel like there is probably only like 4000 people playing at this point.

I'm glad I didn't buy it because no one is even playing overwatch, it's turning into evolve/battleborn
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>>340726664
Damn man, that exact 50% split
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>>340726862
I don't know numbers, but I still get into games in less than 10 seconds.
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>>340703685
DAT ASS HNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG
Post more Overwatch ass please
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>>340726873
It's odd to see us so split down the middle, it would be nice to see some agreement but this is /v/ after all
on one hand
>blizzard will have an easier time balancing heroes
>no more frustrating match ups vs 6 meis or 4 torbjorns etc
on the other
>no more lol 6 76's
>balance by usage becomes more difficult
>some depth is removed
it's hard
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they should make it so that even the slightest line of sight completely blocks all of the damage from her ult like you shouldnt be able to go behind a fucking street sign and negate ALL the damage from her ultimate like that is so retarded, even hiding behind a car/payload shouldnt completely protect you from a ginormous 600 damage nuke lol
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>>340726862
nice try valve shill
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>>340727474
How many players are there then?
I hear that thousands have refunded. The game is dying from what I am hearing.
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>>340705935
>>340706048
>>340706142
>>340706231
so this is the infamous anal vore i've been hearing about...
Someone made a coming out party for this.
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>>340725075
>implying Rein needs a buff
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>>340709332
stay just outside of his flashbang range. Heroes like Tracer can strafe him pretty easily. Don't take tight corners when he's in the game, either.
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>>340727551
>I hear that thousands have refunded. The game is dying from what I am hearing.

kek, who the fuck did you hear that from
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I just want to play one game without widowmaker. Just one where I'm not forced to go winston because some blueberry bitch can down my team from across the map in 5 seconds.
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>>340707508
>dat Mei
MUH
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>>340711213
pretty sure all blink does is fast forward her in time. so she just presses the fayust button and sits on it normally.
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>>340727596
>Coming out

You've got it all backwards, anon.
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>>340727551
I heard that Valve is going bankrupt and Bloodborne is getting ported to the Wii U.
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>>340720136
>lower hp to 150
>Widow battles become retarded and reward reactions and wallhacks over who actually aims better
Think before you suggest stupid changes.
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Is Phara the most neutral character in the game?
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Nerf widowmaker
>Lower charge time by .5 seconds
>Lower ult charge rate per hit

Buff Mei
>Give her ice form a small freezing aoe around her

Buff D.va
>Let her shoot while using defense matrix
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>>340726284
It looks great. I'm loving it so far
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Mcree and widow need nerfs
mercy and a few other heroes need ult charge reductions
d.va needs a buff of some sort
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>>340727828
The charge rate of her ult really isn't a problem, it's frustrating to play against because there's almost no tell that she's used it, and there's almost zero counterplay to it
charge rate doesn't really matter in this equation
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>>340707202
>Either that or make it so her lazer doesn't power down.
That is literally one of the dumbest fucking suggestions I've seen somebody make for this game. People who are shit at video games shouldn't suggest balance changes. Also, fucking use her shield when you're already under fire instead of hoping people are dumb enough to start shooting it.
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>>340709904
>she does her job well
There isn't a single character in her category that doesn't outclass her, she's a shitty tank/flanker hybrid that sucks at both roles.
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>>340727805
No my dad works at Nintendo and he said it's never ever happening
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>>340728012
Also, why does her whole team get the benefit of wall hax? Only she is wearing the goggles.
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>>340703685

>McCree
Fan the Hammer reduced from 420 to 300
Fan the hammers spread is increased dramatically after 5-8 feet(not sure on range) Making it near impossible to hit anything from medium range with fan
Fan the Hammer has a 2 second cooldown, rolling resets its CD

>Widowmaker
Her ult warning sound is increased so you can actually fucking hear it
Fully charged bodyshots reduced from 150 to 75
No change to charge timer
Her automatic rifles damage is reduced significantly

>Hanzo
Scatter arrow is more erratic, less chance to one hit by aiming at feet

>Mercy
The rate at which is ultimate charges is reduced by 20-30%

>Zenyatta
Health increased by 25

>Pharah
Using her ult temporarily gives her 50 to 75 armour(probably 50) for the duration of the ult

>D.va
Can move while shooting
Reduced crit hit box by 50%
Increase damage for everything bar super close range
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>D'Vas crit box is now at the back
seriously how is this not a thing, that makes way too much sense
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D.va waiting for her mech after it explodes makes her take up more space than she is actually worth, just give her a different ult
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>>340722225
It's called playing Genji.
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>>340728248
She can get back in instantly if she ults
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>>340728151
spotting?
"there's a dude here" sorta stuff
I'm trying to justify one of the more bullshit abilities in the game and I can't even say "lol magic" like I could for hanzo
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>>340706142
>>340706231
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>>340728312
Only if she hits, if you miss/use it to clear an area you are stuck in a shittier form than any other hero so are just a dead weight
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>>340728395
you've clearly never used it then
you can whiff it 100% and it will always let you jump back in her mech
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>>340728395
Have you ever played d.va?
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>>340726764
>fat chicks just put on tank tops and leggings then put their hair in a bun for the laziest possible >>340726862
Mei cosplays

When will their meme end?
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nerf Symmetra's jaw

It's too overpowered
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>>340725075
>Nerf Mei
She needs a buff if anything.
I mean they could nerf her to appease to the casuals, but she have to a bunch of other buffs in other things to make up for it. Thing is balancers are retarded usually and never mix buffs and nerf for whatever reason.
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>Widowmaker's fucking wall hack is whispereed
>the cyborg ninja screams his ult, which is just Reinhardt's hammer except slower.
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>>340710369
Not just that, they get a huge fucking hazard sign on their screen telling them exactly where it is even if it's not in their LoS.

It really is useless for anything but clearing an area for 5 seconds which is ridiculously situational and most of the time wont do anything.
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Mark my words, Meis going to be this game pyro, really good at killing scrubs, but horrible at everything else. But because of complaints she'll just constantly receive nerfs into useless tier.
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>play as zarya
>always tell group about my ultimate
>notice with emote and ask in chat who has aoe ready
>start ultimate nothing happens
>team member is writing "wtf tell us when you drop it"
>mfw
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>>340728958
>>340729119
Mei is in a tricky position alongside torbjorn and bastion
They suck ass, but they also suck to play against, these three need something to make them worse against scrubs but better against high tier players
I just don't know where you could start though
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>>340728549
Too bad about her face, she has a rockin bod
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>>340729147
>going for the tobleronestein from my buddy who plays zarya and combo'ing it into high noon
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>>340729119
I really hope not. Blizzard seems to be telling people to get gud. Requesting that one gif of a bunch of Twitter messages telling people to counter bastion.
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>Nigger dancing

ALL KINDS OF FUCKING DISGUSTING.
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>>340708345
They've said they're not going to buff her damage, probably only give her something to increase her survivability. They might buff her pilot form, which can do an appreciable amount of damage as it is.
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>>340704175
>I hate fun
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>>340708616
She it's relatively popular on the "professional" scene. Her biggest counter is McRee who is about to get nerfed. I think its a reasonable proposal.
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>>340729416
>implying you wouldn't sex him
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>>340709332
I think by design tanks were supposed to be able to survive long enough to survive his flashbang/fan the hammer combo. But they don't. So your best bet is probably to snipe him from a distance, as his left click is still fairly potent at medium range.
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