ITT Villains who did nothing wrong and whom you should've been able to side with.
You can, just stay seated.
>>340639220
he is supposed to be a Nepalese dictator
why does he talk so good (aka sexy) in English?
Was the whole "pagan is mostly innocent, and all the natives end up being evil cunts" on purpose, or did they just do a really shitty job of painting a scene and accidentally make the opposite?
FC4 came out when one of those SJW uproars was really kicking off in full swing, so you'd expect them to try and pull the 'big bad whitey and the innocent natives' thing.
>>340639908
He's also from fucking Hong Kong and has a British accent, while Yuma, another Hong Kong native, speaks in an American accent. It's baffling.
Fuck Ubisoft.
>>340639220
You can if you just wait when he says to wait in the beginning and you could also have not shot him at the end of the game and he leaves Kyrat to you.
You can technically join his "side", but you don't get to play the game that way.
The next far cry will probably let you join the "bad guys", but they'll be shit tier compared to pagan.
>>340640085
>Pagan
>white
YOU JUST HAD TO EAT THE FUCKING CRAB RANGOON, AJAY
>>340640085
SJWs did go after the game, they had to change the box art because of it.
>>340639220
Why did anyone even buy FC4?
It's so fucking boring
Pagan's side
>A doctor who was genuinely interested in the health and safety of the people of Kyrat
>An American family man who took Pagan's offer to support his family
>Yuma Lau, a crazy bitch who is painted as dangerous and insane
>Pagan Min, a charismatic king who is shown to be both fair and reasonable when given a chance, but unforgiving to traitors
Golden Path
>Amita, AKA DESTROY CULTURE MUH BHADRA FUCKING SHOOT SABAL, wants to make Kyrat into a drug state and melt down all the precious cultural artifacts into mere treasury pieces
>Sabal, an angsty fuck who gets pissy if you betray him once and never stops getting pissy. Stuck firmly in the past, wants Kyrat to remain third-world forever
I was honestly expecting a chance to kill Amita and Sabal and join Pagan, they seemed like such pieces of shit I was expecting an arc to play out where Ajay becomes disillusioned with being used as a puppet for the Golden Path and snaps under the weight of what he's done. But then I remember the game was written by Ubisoft.
>>340640393
Don't be silly anon, we all know that race and privileges are based entirely on a saturation scale, you dirty white devil.
>>340640613
I almost forgot about that, it just seems so odd that ubisoft wouldn't be bending over backwards trying to cater to the SJW's in the first place, especially with the story.
>>340640613
Not here in the UK :)
>>340640393
He is white because he is evil
>>340640085
Pagan was hardly innocent, but by far the best option out of 3 bad options.
>>340640879
>let Pagan to get away
>go and kill Amita/Sabal
>get an ending
>after the ending kill Sabal/Amita
>write fanfiction about building communism in there
>>340641038
>>340640613
wheres the censor
>>340641023
>I almost forgot about that, it just seems so odd that ubisoft wouldn't be bending over backwards trying to cater to the SJW's in the first place, especially with the story.
SJWs don't play videogames anon, that's why they only complained about the cover. SJWs only care about the surface level because it's all they know, and Ubisoft already has them in their bag because they have female and black main characters and it's all the SJWs care about.
>>340641146
>Pagan offers Kyrat to Ajay
>this goes absolutely nowhere
Imagine if Ajay told this to the twins and they started trying to suck up to Ajay and he goes all "Nah fuck that I'm doing things my own way." and then the game lets you use Pagan's army as you please.
Remember when TRIGGER DISCIPLINE on the FC3 box art?
That was some hilarious shit.
>>340640352
What is FarCry Flinstones?
>>340641332
>>340641702
jesus, they really changed that?
I really wish they had just sent out a press release saying "he is a villain. you are not supposed to like what he is doing. it is staying. you idiots."
>>340641702
Pfffff, now that's just box art shitposting
Why do Ubisoft make interesting villains and do absolutely fuck all with them?
The Jackal, Vaas, Pagan.
>>340641886
They changed this
>>340641038
To this
>>340641702
>>340639908
Went to Harvard like all the other cool dictators?
>>340641928
>The Pope was a villain in AC2
>You could've explored a storyline about the power of the church and had long-reaching implications with the Templars affecting the whole line, maybe even a rival Animus user introduced to add a sense of urgency to unravelling the mystery of the Assassins
>lol nope he appears right at the end and you fist-fight him before aliens appear and end the game
Ubisoft can't write a compelling story to save their lives, is why.
>>340642250
>shitty story appeals to normies because OMG MINERVA LOOKED AT ME SO EPIC!!!
Fuck
>>340642250
Hey! Assassin's Creed 2 has the best ending in the history of videogames.
>>340641886
He's also Asian. Can't depict Black, Asian or Arabs negatively. Nevermind if they're villains, says SJWs.
>>340642467
SJWs will shit on anyone they want.
If a black guy doesn't like what they're doing (which is very common) they will call him an Uncle Tom.
SJWs shit on Franklin in GTAV because he wanted to elevate himself criminally by joining up with successful criminals (who happened to be white) instead of sticking to his hood roots where he'd die making no fucking money and living in poverty. It's amazing.
>>340639220
Can't you go back and kill the other "good" faction after the game ends? Does the game acknowledge your decision to tie up loose ends?
>>340643274
Nope. Once the game ends absolutely nothing about the landscape changes. It's basically as if it didn't happen.
So no religious piety in the citizens and soldiery if you chose Sabal, no drug-slaves or child soldiers if you chose Amita.
>>340639220
I honestly wish I could have sided with Pagan
I happily let him live, after all the bullshit Anita and Fuccboi put me through. Those bastards are willing to do all the same horrible things they accused Pagan of, for even worse reasons, and they always treat you like a pawn. Pagan never lies to you, treats you with respect, and given how the other two indicate they'll rule, probably a much better leader.
I sided with Fuccboi in the end, so I could murder the bitch first. After we deposed the rightful ruler, fuccboi gave his victory speech, and the shit he said pissed me off so fucking much I emptied my heavy machine gun into him and all his friend right there, and it was incredibly satisfying.
>>340644228
I only sided with Fuccboi so I could keep the loli alive. Then I killed him. Without their shitty leader, the GP would fall apart and loli would be free to find me and thank me, eroge style.
>>340641702
>>340641979
you fucking idiots, one is the standart version and one is the limited edition, both had different covers from the start
nothing got changed or censored
>>340639220
Because the right thing to do is just wait for the damn crab rangoon, which is fucking delicious. If only they let you play the game on his side after that.
>>340644832
>If only they let you play the game on his side after that.
Jump in the chopper, strafe the rebels camp, and that's game over. Until Ajay turns up and the plot starts rolling they rebels are on their knees, they're not enough of a threat to make a proper game out of, especially since Ajay would have the backing of the military.
>>340644776
This
https://www.vg247.com/2014/06/24/far-cry-4-ps4-pc-xbox-one-cover-art-assumptions-were-uncomfortable-says-ubisoft/
And the director basically called everyone a fucking idiot.
>>340639220
All sides were dicks. There should have been a scorched earth option where you ruin everything, save Bhadra, then fuck off back to where you came from like nothing happened.
>>340639220
>>340640085
>>340641142
Surprisingly Pagan was the sane choice compared to religous zealot man and drugs for cocks girl.
>>340642467
>Can't depict Asians negatively
They don't care about us anon. SJWs don't give a shit about Asians and we don't need them either, fuck those crazy cunts. They only see black and white.
>>340639220
>>340645373
>couldn't save Bhadra
I was so fucking mad
The game should have given you the option to rebel against the rebels to protect her.
I like how this game suggested that some third world shitholes need a dictator in power to keep things together, and how without a dictator, they just fall apart into shit.
A nice allegory to the arab spring
>>340639220
I for one consider the secret 15 minute wait ending as the canon one.
You don't cause thousands of deaths and unnecessary suffering. You do what you were supposed to, go have fun with your gay uncle and (presumably) take over ruling Kyrat once he gets too old to lead.
Everyone wins.
>>340646260
>gay uncle
But anon, Chinese Troy Baker has a child with a woman. Besides, a gay person can't be a villain!
>>340646260
Minh ain't gay. He even tells you that he isn't and that doesn't take new partners because Ajays mom was the only person he ever loved.
>>340640613
But that's the cover I have on my ps4. And I'm American.
>>340646260
I don't, but I don't consider anything in the game canon at all because none of it makes sense and all of it is fucking retarded.
I doubt very much Ajay would stick around after hearing some dude being tortured and watching a guy stab some soldier in the throat with a pen. I also doubt that Ajay would get caught up with the Golden Path because they are also completely fucking crazy people and it's apparent very early into their missions that they are going to fuck up the country one way or another. Somehow the game expects you to ignore these glaring issues and believe that Ajay is retarded enough to play along, even when multiple times he's shown to be intelligent enough to spot their bullshit and even call it out. Why does he just fucking shrug every time they give him a politician's answer.
Farcry 3 made more sense since the protag was not instantly a super soldier and was incredibly anxious to just leave
Handsome Jack, up until the last few bits of TPS
>>340646947
>protag was not instantly a super soldier
Yeah, he was, just as much as Ajay.
>>340646814
Considering we know Ajay as a murdering psychopath nothing is too big of a stretch with him.
The moment he gets freed his first instinct is to start popping niggas.
>>340639908
because him and the player character's father usurped the throne from the native king.
>>340647142
Because he's under fire. It's self-defense. Then he buys into the MUH REBELLION meme for some reason.
>>340640613
Only in the US. You people should really start chastising your noisy cunts.
>>340646814
The thing is though, anyone else would have stayed put in the chair out of fear.
>>340648498
You can't say that with any level of certitude.
>>340648807
You know you can't, but lets assume Ajay is just another americuck who went to Kyratt to spread his mother ashes and maybe some selfies.
Do you really think someone like that would the character to act and GTFO of there? He would just sit there like a clueless chicken, waiting for the rest to happen. Its the same for most of us.
>>340648807
>Certitude
Nigger what?
>>340649552
certitude
noun
absolute certainty or conviction that something is the case.
"the question may never be answered with certitude"
>>340641886
They did put out a PR about that but that didn't stop SJWs from bitching about racism, all because Pagan's skin color was "white-looking"
>>340649742
That's archaic as hell. Use 'certainty' like everyone else.
Why didn't Pagan give all his guys these?
>>340650056
Fuck off you anti-intellectual monkey. Not everything has to be bought down to a simple and base form.
>>340640132
There's nothing baffling about it people can live abroad.
>>340640879
>>340641146
It boggles the mind as to why Ubisoft would make it so you could only join the shitty ass amoral rebellion group when they've made them out to be terrorist tier devils. I mean shit man Pagan is a dictator but he's not even Hitler or cartoon supervillian.
Or maybe it was planned that you could choose sides but they cut it out due to time/budget.
>>340639220
>Thread about game
>Someone starts whining about SJWs or Feminists for no reason
Every time.
>>340650056
>archaic
Certainty has degrees. Certitude has no degrees since it is an asbolute. It literally means absolute certainty, you fucking faggot.
>>340642467
SJWs don't care about Asians they think they're the same shit as white people. Hell they hate all of Japan and give most jap games shit scores because of personal reasonsunless they got paid off in which case they'll do standard dicksucking procedure.
>>340647375
>>340646814
>MUH REBELLION meme for some reason.
Uh his father and mother invented the Golden Path in the first place they imply many times that's the reason he was asked to spread his moms ashes there in the first place..
>>340650493
Ubisoft games always have some sort of political controversy
If you don't like that then stop reading threads about them
>>340650493
>If you don't like censorship in your favorite hobby you're /pol/
I really want this to fucking stop...
>>340650181
He's a jew.
>>340650493
>Game affected by SJWs/Feminists has discussion about SJWs/Feminists
>THIS ISN'T VIDEO GAMES GO AWAY THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING EVER
You are part of the problem
>>340650198
>>340646814
>Somehow the game expects you to ignore these glaring issues and believe that Ajay is retarded enough to play along, even when multiple times he's shown to be intelligent enough to spot their bullshit and even call it out. Why does he just fucking shrug every time they give him a politician's answer.
Because the game makes you slog through it
>Gay
>"did nothing wrong"
>>340640613
This guy looks like Bill Maher with a weird haircut.
Also this cover would have been cool, makes the villain look like an asshole.
>>340639220
Why does he look gay, but he's not?
>>340652640
Metrosexual with all the money in the world.
>>340646814
>Somehow the game expects you to ignore these glaring issues and believe that Ajay is retarded enough to play along, even when multiple times he's shown to be intelligent enough to spot their bullshit and even call it out. Why does he just fucking shrug every time they give him a politician's answer.
For exactly the same reason he puts up with Reggie and Yogi's shit. The developers intend you to be invested in these people despite conventional wisdom telling you they're fucking evil.
>>340652640
>That huge controversy where everyone was crucifying Ubisoft for making a gay character the villain
>He wasn't even gay
That was one of the most retarded shitshows I have ever seen
>There were people on here telling me that Amita was the SJW insert and that I was expected to side with her
>mfw finding out she's somehow even WORSE than Pagan
Explain yourselves, /v/.
>>340654063
She still is the SJW insert and you were expected to side with her
>>340653589
villains are gay sexual deviants in television all the time
i remember one of the villains on the tv show Justified would tie teenage boys up and like rape and torture them
also ray liottas character in the jlo crime drama was the villain and he was like bisexual
>>340654063
Sabal executes people for not believing in Kyra, the ironically pagan God of Kyrat. Amita institutes child soldiers and creates a nation of drug farms. It's also implied she kills a 14-year-old girl because she could threaten her reign.
Both are evil assholes and you should gun them both down. Pagan is a bastard, sure, but he's honest. He knows who and what he is. That it's a matter of time until the jig is up for him, and that's what makes him better than Amita and Sabal.
>>340654337
>Pagan is a bastard, sure, but he's honest. He knows who and what he is.
nothing threatens SJW's more than confident people who know who they are and cant be controlled
>>340654486
Amita isn't really an SJW. She's an actually oppressed woman who was going to be married off at the age of 6 and wants to improve life for the women of Kyrat. Of course, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. By the end she's shoving guns in the hands of children and becoming worse than her religious precursors ever were. Same with Sabal; by chasing the legacy of Mohan he ends up fetishizing him and it leads him to acts of evil.
>>340654063
Poor comprehension. /v/ is retarded. Enjoy your stay, newfriend.
>>340644228
Lets be real here all three of them were assholes. I only let pagan go because he was going to give Ajay kyrat back.
>>340639220
Why in the fuck did they not add a Pagan story. Hell if it was dlc i wouldve bought it.
>>340654752
>Of course, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
this isnt a given, some people can and have actually had near absolute power and were benevolent and fair
>>340645373
>All sides were dicks. There should have been a scorched earth option where you ruin everything, save Bhadra, then fuck.
ftfy :^)
Which was better: farcry 3 or 4
Blood Dragon is also acceptable
Did nothing wrong.
>>340655137
Look back at the leaders shown in FC4. Mohan murdered an infant, Pagan became a dictator almost immediately, the old royal family were total fucking scumbags, the Nationalists were essentially anarchist assholes who just wanted a war, and don't even get me started with Amita and Sabal.
>>340655607
i meant in real life, not this garbage fictional world
>>340654337
>That it's a matter of time until the jig is up for him,
Whatever you say, Min.
>>340643008
Why can't these game devs realize that sjws have no power at all?
Just look at Trump. Libtards and sjws are throwing every single buzzword and muh feels at him and it absolutely does nothing against him. If anything it is helping him.
>>340656396
is that why he's dropping in the polls
>>340654063
>Amita was the SJW insert and that I was expected to side with her
She was and you were
>>340657065
They're even at the moment.
>>340640879
>I was honestly expecting a chance to kill Amita and Sabal and join Pagan
You can kill them both and let Pagan live, but that's about it.
>>340650493
>implying Ubishit isn't SJW: The Studio these days
Can't wait until Watch Nogs 2 fails and they go bankrupt
>>340650493
>le /pol/ bogey man
>>340639220
I think people are getting the idea that because amita and whatshisface were not good people either that min is somehow absolved of his crimes.
>>340641493
>play game
>as you play become friends with locals of the resistance
>get to end
>team up with pagan
>kill the traitors that are sieging pagans castle
>then go through the town executing all resistance members one by one for treachery
>>340656396
>Why can't these game devs realize that sjws have no power at all?
They have the power people allow them to have.
If ubisoft does what it does it does so not forcedly.
>>340642250
Are you fucking daft? The villain BECAME the pop near the end events of AC2. There was no time to introduce elements about a corrupt church. You were going after the Borgia. Not the church. The church will always have facets of corruption that go deep and everywhere just like any institution with long reach.
AC2 was amazing and so were the ancient aliens. It was just the events of everything after AC2 showed how it had nowhere to go from there.
>maybe even a rival Animus user introduced to add a sense of urgency
The Animus shows you events, it doesn't let you affect them. That's all just game play elements you schmuck.
And if you mean a rival who is also unfolding the same events, they'd have to be related to Ezio who was the only one other than the Borgia who got to see what was needed to be seen.
I doubt the Minerva would have allowed Ezio to be a vessel to send a message to Desmond if there was a possibility that the message would be seen by the Templars.
>>340639220
>actually had a solid plan
>It actually worked
>he would've saved the world
>Can't side with him cause of muh honesty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAHvLAJ-5aQ
gringos hijos de puta
>>340642250
>a rival Animus user introduced to add a sense of urgency
Do you know how the Animus works?
>>340660281
Except he became a Primal when he transformed and that's a whole other load of shit to deal with
>>340639220
The guy from Xenoblade, Egil.
>>340639220
>You can choose between a crazy bitch and a crazy asshole
>You can't choose the gentleman who want to save the island
Why even play
