Why does some of /v/ want Nintendo to "die" so badly, as if them existing as a company has a personal negative effective on their everyday lives?
Do you think it's going to somehow increase the quality of the other developers? Why would it? If anything, wouldn't Nintendo being gone just make it so that gaming is nothing but brown shooters from that point on?
Do you think a company that you don't even support being gone will somehow improve gaming overall? What would it possibly do?
Nintendo do sometimes deliver good and great games.
So yeah, Nintendo being gone will only make the gaming industry get worse.
>>340588023
i dont want them to die. i want them to wake up and stop making amiibos and instead just makes games on pc if they have to or as third party. only the biggest of fools think spending 300-400 for outdated hardware to play amiibo deluxe rehash shovelware games is a good spot for nintendo to be in.
They are all 2000s redneck kids who did not grow up with Nintendo nostalgia, instead playing Playstation2 or fat Xbox. They are only mindlessly repeating console-war chants, they don't really know or care about Nintendo.
>>340588023
Nobody who isnt a fucking idiot wants Nintendo to die. They just need to learn their lesson.
This might be a weird analogy for people who have never experienced this, but modern Nintendo is like having seeing a best friend struggle with alcoholism. Youve known this guy a long time, so it sucks to see him go through this. He's done so much awesome stuff for you, you've had some great times, lots of memories.
But those days are behind you. Now his life revolves around something that isn't for the good of him. He's changed. It's affecting him and those around him. Do you continue being friends with him, helping him out, enabling his predicaments? Or do you distance yourself to prove the point and to let him know what he might be losing? Is it cruel to distance yourself? What if he does something wrong in your absence? You can't stick around and coddle him. He can make his own decisions. But if there's any chance of him getting better, he has to own up to his problems and fix them himself. Only then can things get back to the way they were, to the way they can be so that they get better.
>>340589725
Not weird at all. I honestly don't think I could have said it better myself.
I love Nintendo, I always have. Though I don't want them to go away, they do need to have some sense knocked into them.
Your pic is a perfect example as to why.I'm a HUGE Paper Mario fan, so seeing this pisses me off to no end
>>340588023
Nintendo sucks. Nintendo faggots are the worst.
No one wants nintendo to die. Actually, I should say, very few people do. But the only thing worse is happening, which is nintendo killing itself slowly, one embarrassing disconnected from their fanbase mistake after the other. Dying would be preferable to that.
>>340588023
i want nintendo to go third party because the company is incompetent and can't even afford to make games for all its consoles
they should either stick with portables or ditch the business altogether
>>340588826
Nah, for every good game they make they put out two turds. Their existence is a net deficit for gaming.
>>340588023
Those people still cling to a dumb belief that if Nintendo stops making consoles they'll make games on their competitors hardware.
>>340589725
Yeah, pretty much this.
I try hard to enjoy modern Nintendo but the games just feel soulless compared to games from before. There is the occasional hit here and there like Pikmin 3, but overall I haven't really enjoyed many modern Nintendo games. I want them to get better.
>>340588023
Without Nintendo there would be video game industry today. They saved gaming back in the 80s and created their biggest rival, the PlayStation out of their own corporate stupidity.
95% of the people saying they want Nintendo to die probably don't mean it, they just want Nintendo to get their head out of their asses, or are just baiting like >>340590595
They need to wipe their entire staff clean and start from scratch.
Nintendo is probably the most well known company in gaming. Saying you're a gamer and not have played a Nintendo game is like being a grandma and claiming she's a gamer because she plays Candy Crush. People don't wanna see this company slowly rot their classic IPs to death land ruin their reputation, and saying they should die instead of doing that is a lot better.
>>340589036
I false flag just to get people like you angry. Just thought you should know.
>>340590864
Worked out well for Sega.
>>340588023
>Nintendo has put out two consoles now with no marketing that instantly died and they expect people to just take it
And of course you fucking faggots do, i want them to get hit by something that they will never recover from because they're an awful buisness who is stuck in the past.
Most of the sentiment is probably people who are tired of buying multiple consoles who like some Nintendo stuff, but not most of it.
So the logic follows that since Nintendo isn't going to make competitive hardware and secure any third party support at all, it would be preferable to have the handful of Nintendo titles they like on another platform.
>>340591494
>Worked out well for Sega.
>>340591678
>two consoles
>>340591701
I probably should have been clearer, Sega still exists today whereas they would have gone bankrupt had they not restructured.
>>340591816
>What are gamecube and wii u
>Both consoles sold like shit and one got dropped fast and the other is getting dropped even faster
>>340591951
GameCube didn't instantly die tho
I hate Nintendo because they dont make products or software I want to buy anymore
>>340591951
I remember network TV ads for the GC and its games
People just didn't buy it because they were shitters
>>340592176
It got dropped 3 years after it was first released.
>>340592316
>Source: My ass
>>340588023
I just want to see Nintendo of America die
Nintendo of Japan is cool though
>>340592293
>People just didn't buy it because they were shitters
People didn't buy it because it didn't have a lot of third party support.
Second and third party sells consoles a lot more than first party, has been true since PS2 days.
>>340592824
>PS2 days
You mean 6th gen?
The gamecube didn't need third party support because it has more first party 10/10s than can be counted on your hands.
>>340591951
Gamecube sold about as much as the Xbox. Sony was just a total juggernaut that gen.
>>340592509
Nintendo of Europe is best Nintendo
>>340588023
Some of their IPs could potentially be in better hands if sold off. Other than that, nothing.
Nintendo fans don't even come into these threads to defend Nintendo anymore, that in itself is actually quite sad. It's not fun anymore
>>340593185
Nintendo of Africa is clearly best
>those faithful translations
>3ds games are only about $30 USD
>>340593373
That's because Nintendo fans are the ones pissed at Nintendo
>>340593373
They all left after last year's E3 shitshow.
>>340593006
>The gamecube didn't need third party support because it has more first party 10/10s than can be counted on your hands.
That's why it didn't sell that well, right anon?
While the PS2 had shitloads of easy sales and support.
Even now second and third party is why consoles sell well.
And why the Wii U is tanking hard.
First party is not enough.
Call of Duty and FIFA pushes more consoles than anything else.
>>340593510
>Fatal Frame 2 Wii Edition Europe/Japan exclusive
>Fatal Frame 5 gets physical release in Europe
America gets shafted once again
You know, if they'd stop with the fucking HD remakes of tired old games, take it easy on centering on the gimmicky features (that limit the appeal and third-party development), and whoring out NES shit for nostalgia's sake, Nintendo would be getting somewhere.
Otherwise, I'm just sticking with my Xbox One. I rarely play my Wii U anyway. It'll be lucky if it gets one week out of the year of usage like the Wii did.
Nintendo was great during my childhood, but now it panders to today's childhoods, so I just feel alienated.
I didn't want them to die until Treehouse.
I feel there is no saving them now, and all they can do is poison the well even more by continuing to exist.
>>340589725
console gaming is slowly dying
and nintendo will die first because they are the last to adapt
its just didn't happen yet, but it will happen when people will be more tech-literate and can buy cheaper games on a computer and plug controllers in
Honestly, Nintendo and it's early core IPs (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) were just in the right place at the right time. People are sick of those IPs and how they've been run into the ground with un-fun gimmicks, and NIntendo will never duplicate that success with new IPs.
>>340595294
Console gaming and pc gaming are both dying. 20 years from now they're will only be mobile shit.
>>340595294
>console gaming is slowly dying
Honestly, PC and console games are slowly but surely becoming indistinguishable from one another.
>>340595509
no pc gaming is not dying.
because it adapts very quickly and sell old tech/old games for much cheaper
console makers and publishers are refusing to follow through.
not to mention you now have invasive DRM's in consoles now and have to login and update everytime you play
>>340593803
Only because it was a weak console that people bought multiple times to replace their old ones, on top of being a cheap DVD player
>>340588023
>Why does some of /v/ want Nintendo to "die" so badly
Blame their US branch for being a huge piece of shit.
>Censors games that gets brought ovet here in the US
>Fucks people over by not releaseing LEs of their games in the US(Hyrule Warriors Wii U and 3DS versions for example)
>Shoddy translations
They need to close doors on the US branch.
>>340588023
Don't want them to die, just want them to go 3rd party and start publishing on PC. Other consoles, sure, don't really care but I'm not going to be a child about it
Really don't care at the end of the day. I've been a long time Nintendo fan but I'm tired of buying overpriced, underpowered, redundant hardware and their games aren't good enough anymore to warrant it
>>340588023
Nintendo's lousy track record of late hurt me emotionally. I need royalty money for mental anguish.
>>340592824
>le ebin second party meme
Second party isn't a thing fyi. It's like how you can't speak in second person.
>>340588023
The only reason I want them to die is so all of my friends that still suck nintendo dick will stop being disgusting nintendo dick suckers.
>>340588023
>as if them existing as a company has a personal negative effective on your everyday lives?
Look at the part where it says "In the past," as if they're doing you a favor by giving the person putting time into it a cut now.
>Do you think a company that you don't even support being gone will somehow improve gaming overall? What would it possibly do?
Make the entire gaming world a better place.
Thanks-a for the coins, Woohoo!
>>340588023
A bunch of fags that want them to become 3rd party so they can finally play actual good games.
>>340599586
Fuck off, Savage Sanchez
>>340599458
>second party
>not a thing
Second party means when a company pays a dev to make a game for them. For example, when Nintendo paid for Bayonetta 2's development.
>>340599649
The truth is Nintendo games would just be buried at the bottom of the pile, because it would be pointless anymore for fanboys to gloat and overhype their games.
>>340598390
This or clean house on the US branch and replace them with people who aren't penny pinching jews.
Nintendo is just off their rocker right now it seems. I have a 3DS but not a WiiU, and while shit like Bayo 2 and Pikmin 3 were great, they weren't enough to get me to buy one. The moment I considered buying one they tell us they're working on the NX.
I like the 3DS just fine, but it seems like Nintendo makes one good decision and then makes two bad ones. I was actually playing Starfox Zero the other day and thought it was alright, but I just don't like the motion controls. Call me an oldfag, but I liked when games were really fun and really good without shit like motion controls or Amiibo stuff. And maybe Ninty needs to just focus on innovative, fun games that add new and fun features like Mario Sunshine and not annoying and frustrating gimmicks and lack of evolution like Starfox Zero.
If it means anything, I had a blast with Kirby Robobot. Nintendo needs more Kirby Robobots and less Starfox Zeros.
>>340588023
They don't realize how important Nintendo is to gaming console innovation and that their precious Playstation would be nothing without them.
>>340588023
The meme about Nintendo dying predates 4chan. The idea is that Nintendo holds conservative market approach that has become niche as the industry focused on an older audience, this is that Nintendo maintains a market for children. The belief is that videogames are somehow being held back by Nintendo's presence in this market, and that Nintendo is to blame for a lack of potential freedom games could enjoy.
What's really happening is many people hold a special place in their heart for Nintendo due to nostalgia, and it pains them when their beloved company continues to stay the course for making games for children rather than growing with the players. They're bitter that the company focuses of gimmicks rather than power like Sony or Microsoft and just want to put what they consider their old yeller down.
TL;DR people want Nintendo to behave like Sony but they won't so they've gotta go.
>>340589005
>>340598590
Read >>340601024 Hardware innovation is Nintendo's reason detre you idiots.
Sure their last couple attempts were flops but do you really want *no one* left to push console interfacing forward?
>>340593654
>>340589725
I agree. Nintendo needs to learn they aren't relying on kids anymore. Some of the hardcore fans are well into their 20's to 30's. I don't want to be treated as a damn kid with games meant to be played by older people.
Where's my kirby air ride 2 nintendo?
>>340602495
I've never seen evidence that they aren't still depending on kids.
>>340601629
Lets talk about real Nintendo
They develop games in the mindset of catering to 40 year olds who work 7 days a week. They have a kids style to the games.
Nintendo is ass backwards right now
If they would realize that they are needed they would make games that kids want.
Kids want to come home and figure out a game and play from the time they get home to bed time. They want to explore
Have an adventure
be challenged enough and rewarded for accomplishing something hard in the game
Secrets
New and interesting things.
Where Neo Nintendo develops for the 40 year old man who works 60 hours per week
Can only spend 30 minutes on a game per day
If the gameplay is harder then learning in 5 minutes they drop the game.
If nintendo wants to succeed they need to return to their roots and bring fun rewarding difficulty and figuring out back into their games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt4KG9ib8S4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzyz2TgGls
>>340588023
They're idiots, back between the 1980's and 2000 Nintendo's style of games were mainstream. In 2005-2010 they came up with new games(Touch generations and Wii) that were REALLY mainstream. The people who think Nintendo are "dying" are people who don't understand that most of Nintendo's games are more niche now than before. It's sustainable but many of their series can't be major mainstream releases.
They are series with gameplay first that aren't designed to hit the most mainstream tastes, as open world, cinematics, multi-player and Shooters define mainstream now. Star Fox in particular was popular enough to be a major release before 2000, in 2016 a rail shooter is completley the opposite of what the bulk of the gaming audience would ever want.
But you have people acting like what was popular over 15 years ago should still be popular now. That a game in a near dead genre should remain the same while justifying a AAA budget game worth of content and online multi-player.
>>340588023
i want a cinematic approach to Mario
only SONY can accomplish this
>>340589036
THANKS CONSOLES
>>340595294
You're retarded.
Consoles are selling now more than they ever have.
>>340602886
>i want a cinematic approach to Mario
Oh but we did have one.
>>340588023
When I buy a Nintendo console, it's because it's holding games I want to play hostage. It's bothersome to buy a second console because there are a few games I want to play for it, but all my other games that I play are on my other console, phone, or PC.
>>340602786
See
I wish nintendo would of made a MMO platformer game where it has the style of mario 64 in gameplay aesthetics where it takes huge amounts of people to figure out a big platforming puzzle or fighting enemies or anything like that.
You could make the game fun where anyone can attack anyone and you can reward players for helping out in the harder aspects of the puzzle or whatever it is with items.
>>340602786
I blame Smash Bros. The character and the name of the series is popular but the games themselves will never be popular, and star fox was never really that popular.
>>340602786
Nintendo fans want their mature space opera tier metroid game. Star Fox fans want their mature, exciting Star Fox game.
Like I said earlier, the fans want nintendo to age with them but nintendo thinks thats retarded because they're still dominating the kid market.
>>340603214
I blame this
Toward the end of the GameCube era, Nintendo lost confidence in their own fans. Nintendo was losing market share with each new console launched.
Pride turned to arrogance. Ugly arrogance. Nintendo started to develop contempt for the gaming community. They felt as if they were being betrayed by the gamers they created. The marketing teams started to look at gamer focused strategies with ire and spite. says Mercury. The hardcore Nintendo audience was equally cast aside. Why bother? Theyre going to buy anything we put out anyway.
>>340588023
I just want Nintendo to learn their lesson and return to their former glory.
>>340603261
See why
>>340602742
Your opinion is false
They do not develop gameplay for kids but 40 year old men.
>>340603075
>MMO
You really rushed in that foot into your mouth
>>340603261
Funny enough, that makes me think of the Pokemon anime.
>>340603432
>Nintendo is making games for adults because the gameplay is casualized compared to prior
That's a retarded argument, I can also say that nintendo cares about the amount of time kids play videogames if their parents don't monitor them and make them less time consuming.
>>340603548
I think it would be so fun
3d platformer with huge worlds
And you can either help or hurt people on your side
Could make it factions based so 2 sides can invade and mess with the other people.
>>340601629
>FAKE GAMER >;(
Didn't we move on from this gross mindset after 2013?
>>340603829
So
They are literally killing off their games by dumbing them down so bad that the games are unplayable.
Just to protect children
When children do not need to be protected in that sense
Children need to explore
See things and have good experiences throughout their lives
Video game crash
2016
Here we come
>>340603432
.>They do not develop gameplay for kids but 40 year old men.
On the contrary Nintendo's games aren't any easier(than 4th/5th gen) they've actually remained static which has made them comparatively tougher as the rest of the market games get dumbed down more.
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Kirby Rainbow Curse, Luigi's Mansion were criticised for being difficult which has culminated in games like Codename: S.T.E.A.M and Star Fox Zero being called bad games for simply being challenging.
>>340604131
Yeah
I could beat all those games blindfold
Sweet I jump into a pit and a balloon saves me without punishing me for screwing up!!!!
>>340604131
hahahahahaahahahah
>neo nintendo hard
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>340588023
Nitendo is the Apple of video games.
>>340604058
>Video game crash
>2016
>Here we come
>>340604263
Compare that to games where the game stops you from even falling off ledges or failing jumps(e.g. Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Uncharted 4)
>>340604409
The video game industry needs a kick in the ass right now
I don't want them to die. I want them to go 3rd party on systems that have normal non-motion controllers.
>>340604058
>They are literally killing off their games by dumbing them down so bad that the games are unplayable.
I watched my 6 year old cousin win at mii boxing by just flailing like a spastic.
>>340604495
It would start by establishing unions for game devs.
>>340604263
Sounds like you didn't even play DK.
>>340604552
Hopefully you told him to beat link to the past the same way after.
>>340604608
I dont need to I can play DKC for snes
I want them to die because I love them. They're clearly not what they used to be, and it's only gotten worse with time.
The old girl needs to be put down.
>>340604592
i think they are making games easy because it takes more skill as a game dev making more difficult games.
How would unions enforce the best quality gameplay to be put into video games?
>>340604505
So if they released a normal controlled system you would be satisfied?
>>340588023
>Why does some of /v/ want Nintendo to "die" so badly, as if them existing as a company has a personal negative effective on their everyday lives?
It doesn't effect my daily life. But I did grow up with Nintendo, so I think I have a right to express my opinion. My opinion is that they're fucking up. No Nintentoddler wants to admit it. Instead they damage control the fact that Nintendo is the only one supporting their Nintendo-only box. They damage control game droughts. They damage control not getting games with forced in gimmicks that make the gameplay clunky and outright unfun to play. They damage control their lack of competition and presence at gaming events. They damage control their approach to localization. They damage control their lack of game support from 3rd party developers. They damage control recycling old last gen hardware to make money off hardware sales at the detriment to developers. They damage control them getting into HD gaming late. They damage control them not having features that have become standard over the years.
Actually that's all Nintendo fans do. Is damage control. And Nintendo laps it all up and releases their next piece of shit that the core gamer has 0 interest in.
So yeah...fuck Nintendo, and fuck their stupid ass fanbase.
>>340590762
>They make some bad games that I don't have to play so I don't want them to be around to make the good games I could play.
This is a strange mentality.
>>340588023
To somewhat answer your question OP, as a pretty big Nintendo fan, I wouldn't mind them going third party for home console games, and focusing their hardware making on handhelds. It be nice to not have to buy both Nintendo and PlayStation consoles to play all the games I like. As I don't have the energy to mess with PC to get a game to work.
>>340590689
This Anon does >>340589725
>>340599458
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-person_narrative
Go back to school fag.
>>340604384
You haven't touched Tropical Freeze or DK Returns.
>>340605718
I already am playing a superior game
Why do i want to play something less fun?
>>340604816
Game difficulty has nothing to do with dev skill, at least not proportionally.
You can easily make a game nearly impossible by having the AI have almost perfect accuracy in a shooter, very very easily. It's harder to make the npc seem "human" than it is to make him play like the terminator.
Unions are a double edged sword today, some are needed and others are just as corrupt as the corporations they claim to fight. In the case of videogames, a union is necessary.
Videogame developers make the least amount of money compared to other programmers and have among the least secure positions in the tech industry. Everything booming about videogames has been quickly established so the publisher fodders most of the profit. It gets to points where you have fags like Kotick own like 45% of the companies stock.
What happens is the publishers destroy, absorb, and manipulate dev teams using really shitty contracts that are designed to make their means of production practically slave labor. As you already know EA and Bethesda are pros at this by hiring up and coming dev groups with a token game, using milestone contracts to bankrupt them and then forcing them to sell. They then gut the team and replace them with lower pay employs to churn out absolute shit. They spend money on advertising and depend on fan worship of the brand name to make insane amounts of money and the cycle continues.
Unions would remove power from the publisher, the less power for the publisher means better games.
You may realize that some of the best games have modest publishers, and all the shit comes from the really big names that make up the vast portion of "Wealth" the game industry flaunts.
>>340595294
That'll never happen because Microsoft owns Xbox. They'll see to it their console survives.
I don't want Nintendo to die.
I want Nintendo of America to die. They peaked back in 2012 with Kid Icarus Uprising which was a fucking phenomenal localization and should have been the standard from that point forward but immediatly after that they've just stopped doing good work.
>>340604058
Unless Sony and Microsoft stop making video games along side with Nintendo, we are far from a 2nd video game crash.
>>340588023
I don't want Nintendo to die. I want them to stop sitting the bed and getting a trophy and a sticker for it.
>>340590864
There's still people who believe Nintendo won't sell of its IPs as if they have any choice in the matter
>>340601104
You're forgetting that Nintendo games enjoy a more varied demographic outside the US. You can blame a combination of the Wii being the worse 7th gen console for online and it's poor 3rd party support in addition to NoA and their aggressive marketing to only children creating a smaller potential market.
Nintendo isn't your warm fuzzy nostalgic kid cartoon that isn't as good as everyone on /co/ says it is. It's a company that got fucked over by bad decisions made at the wrong times and a US marketing campaign that's been on the decline since the end of the n64 era.
>>340606432
I'm pretty sure they'll take their IPs to the grave if they go under.
>>340606738
>as if they have a choice in the matter
I bet you believe Steam will make everything free if they go under too. Stop spouting damage control.
>>340606828
>steam will make everything free
What? Where does that even come from? And Nintendo is by no obligation forced to sell their IPs.
>>340606938
you're retarded
>>340604131
star fox zero has way bigger problems than its difficulty level.
>>340601629
I agree with everything in said picture, therefore I am a real Nintendo fan. And as a real Nintendo fan, I feel that Nintendo needs to get their shit together and stop failing to meet fan expectations, like with Metroid Federation Force, and Paper Mario Color Splash. They need to stop mishandling their franchises.
>>340607037
Nice counterargument bro.
>tfw its not fun to make fun of Nintendofags anymore because they no longer exist and dont even defend Nintendo half the time
>>340606432
It's straight up full-blown delusional to think any board of directors - people appointed by shareholders to appoint a CEO to MAXIMIZE PROFIT, are going to let fucking Mario, a multi-million dollar property, just go to rot in the dirt for the sake of "artistic appropriateness" or "historical value".
Tell those fucking people that artists down even own their own music anymore. The entire Beatles discography belonged to Michael Jackson and who the fuck knows who holds it now. I think the only notable artists who actually fucking scraped back ownership of their shit were the Beegees, Phil Collins, and Prince - and now that most of them are dead who the hell knows who owns what.
>>340607364
They can't "take their IPs to the grave". It doesn't work that way.
>>340607416
This post is pretty damn jewish and I'm not even /pol/.
>>340607545
No they actually can. They have stated that they would rather quit developing games and stubbornly sit on their IPs refusing to let other people use them, then go third party.
>>340607545
>Miyamoto owns the IP Mario
>The Nintendo company ends up needing to file for bankrupcy.
>The board decides that it will sell the Mario IP to third parties.
>They need MIyamoto's signature to legally let them sell the Mario copyright.
>Miyamoto refuses.
>Board threatens his job.
>Miyamoto quits and takes the Mario IP with him.
What now?
This is what they mean by "taking their IPs to their graves". They would rather lose their jobs then allow the board power to control their IPs.
Iwata dying was a step in the right direction, I just hope Miyamoto goes soon.
It's cruel to say, but Iwata is the one who put Nintendo in the shit state it's in by going after the casual market (who vanished once mobile gaming got big) and Miyamoto is the one strangling Nintendo's IPs because he won't greenlight any projects unless they have some kind of shitty gimmick.
>>340594428
>if they'd stop with the fucking HD remakes of tired old games
Why is Nintendo the only one getting shit for this?
They've released TWO HD remasters. TWO.
There are THIRTY NINE of them on the PS3 alone. Why is it suddenly a bad thing when Nintendo does it?
They don't need to die they just need to quit making consoles and focus on making games for other consoles and pc. If they didn't waste so many fucking resources on retarded hardware gimmicks and being 10 years behind everyone in network they could probably make good games at a more acceptable pace. They can keep making mobile hardware but they should bow out of the home space because they are fucking retarded.
>>340607661
>they stated they would
Yeah, just like read >>>340606828
>>340607974
You can't. And Miyamoto is dead. And Mario games still exist.
>>340607416
The thing is though that video games are way more of a joint-collective than music.
>>340595506
>NIntendo will never duplicate that success with new IPs.
Splatoon.
>>340601024
>>340601427
>Nintendo: "Hey devs, here's two screens/a Wiimote/a tablet! Go cray cray!"
>devs: imma gonna make shovelware and ports and games that have a waggle here and there cuz idk what to do with this shit
>Nintendo: "Okay... uhm... well here is the last title for the system that kind of shows... kind of shows what it could have done... it is a Zelda where you can swing your sword around... It's kind of neat I think... at least *cries softly*"
The software support for their innovation is never there, so they should just give up.
>>340604505
>I want them to go 3rd party on systems that have normal non-thumb doohicky joysticks
This is what you sound like.
>>340605182
>as a pretty big Nintendo fan, I wouldn't mind them going third party for home console games
No actual fucking fan of Nintendo would say that kind of shit. You don't even fucking know the reason why Nintendo is so goddamn valuable to the industry.
>>340601024
>>340601427
>>340608846
>And Miyamoto is dead.
No he's not. Why are people so stupid they don't know the difference between Iwata and Miyamoto?
>>340607661
Okay let's start with something. Who is "they". No, wait, forget it. What matters is that whoever "they" is they must be 51% owners of Nintendo. And so long as they are 51% they can appoint a board who will enact those wishes to their financial detriment.
>>340607974
That makes no fucking sense that Miyamoto owns Mario. I could be wrong but Nintendo owns Mario, Nintendo is a corporation, and entity that is separate from Miyamoto who just works for that corporation. Nintendo shoulders all the responsibility, revenues, and liabilities of the property. If Miyamoto actually owned Mario and someone fucking sued the Mario property for some reason Miyamoto would be up to his fucking neck in legal bullshit for the rest of his life.
If Miyamoto owned Mario no board proposes to sell the property. HE proposes to sell the property and makes that announcement. And if he doesn't own the property as I assume - because it is wholly owned by Nintnedo, the board doesn't need his permission.
I don't mean to be a dick, but I need to see some proof that there's a rider in the Mario IP that Miyamoto (or his descendants if he dies) have the final say in whether or not Mario gets sold to anybody else regardless of whether or not the Miyamoto estate or Nintendo owns it.
>>340606828
>realistic, informed factoids are damage control
>>340609081
The Virtual Boy was a failure too, does that mean they should have "just given up" and not have gone ahead with the N64 controller? The one which paved the way for the Dual Shock?
>>340599458
>you can't speak in second person.
>you
Good one
>>340609953
>>340588023
Sonyggers Mustards are jealous
Not kidding right now they see all thee great games on WIi U and thnk:
>Shit i want to play all these games. I wish i could play Splatoon and not my Minecraft Mod
>I wish i could play Bayonetta 1+2
>I wish i could play Mario Kart online on Psn or Steam
>I HOPE NINTENDO GOES THIRD PARTY SO I CAN ENJOY ALL THE GAMES I WANT NOW ON MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE
Nintendo won't die in the foreseeable future, but they're in kind of a rough spot right now. So many unfortunate things happening at once, the company was thrown into chaos and shit started passing. They aren't open enough with their fans about what's going on, like they were when Iwata was alive. When he still breathed, we got updates all the time, and they clearly explained their thought processes behind everything. They took feedback, they tried their hardest to make the best of a bad situation (the Wii U's early life), and they also put as much polish on their products as they could muster.
The quality of Nintendo games has gone down since Iwata got sick. It's obvious he didn't just up and die, he was battling for a while. When he wasn't at the helm, some shit started slipping through. Games weren't as polished, the games didn't have as much content, and the execs were at a loss for what to do. Nintendo just needs a worthy successor to Iwata, one who actually cares about making good products instead of solely lucrative products. Games and consoles that are fun for the sake of fun, not for the sake of money.
>>340610468
What the fuck are you even talking about? Iwata's the reason the company is in
Policies don't change overnight, numbnuts. We won't likely see the results of Iwata's successor's tenure until the NX.
>>340594428
Yes man all these fucking remakes Nintendo published on Wii U
>zelda WW HD
>Zelda TP
and...
There are more than 20 remakes on XBox One
>>340609751
N64 didn't invent analogue sticks.
>>340610441
tripfag pls go
>>340610829
You're a fucking retard. Iwata heralded in some of the best Nintendo games of all time. Yamauchi pretty much just let people do whatever, but Iwata pushed everything to it's best. Every Nintendo franchise hit its peak under Iwata (SMG2, F-Zero GX, Kirby Return to Dreamland, Metroid Prime, Mario Kart 8, and so on). It's only recently that the games have been getting shitty again. Pretty much everything that started development in 2014 - 2015 has been/will be garbage.
No, policies don't change overnight, you fucking idiot, that's what I was saying. Ever since he's been inactive, what with being sick, games have been getting shittier. He didn't just die out of the blue, he's been getting progressively worse since 2014's E3, at the very latest. Even back then he was looking much, much worse than usual. It's obvious that he wasn't keeping control of the various dev teams at that time.
>>340611232
Watch out, here come the shitposters who will dismiss everything on the DS, Wii and Wii U as being shit out of principle of there being "gimmicks"
>>340609156
You are wrong. The creator of Mario owns the copyright to Mario. Miyamoto created Mario. So Miyamoto owns the copyright to Mario. And Miyamoto is still alive. Therefore, if Miyamoto were to leave the company and take his IPs with him, Nintendo would need to get a new mascot.
Steam is a company, they do not own games.
Nintendo is a company, they do not own games. Use your own fucking logic for a change.
>If Miyamoto actually owned Mario and someone fucking sued the Mario property for some reason Miyamoto would be up to his fucking neck in legal bullshit for the rest of his life.
Except Nintendo would back him with lawyers and he would win.
The creator of the IP owns the copyright of said IP, therefore the creator of the game owns the game property.
>>340591296
What do we do when Zelda U is a literal unironic Skyrim clone, because as usual Nintendo is 5-6 years behind everyone else?
>>340609130
because I don't care about old fart ecelebs? I play the games instead and notice their severe quality drop due to japans honor system.
>>340608846
>Miyamoto is dead.
I really hope you are only pretending to be retarded. Miyamoto is most certainly alive, and owns the copyright to Mario, because he created Mario. Which is why he is lead director for most Mario games.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
So I guess by this same logic we can say:
ALL of Bethesda owns the rights to the Fallout IP. What? Todd who? Naw, that's just a employee at the company, he doesn't own the copyright, Bethesda does!
>>340611875
>ecelebs
>>340611891
He might of created Mario. But that doesn't mean he owns Mario
Copyright doesn't work that way. Games are created by more than one person.
>>340611787
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/aonuma-there-was-no-inspiration-taken-from-skyrim-for-zelda-u
>But there was no inspiration taken from Skyrim. It didn’t impact what I was thinking about for future Zelda titles. I’m always thinking about, “Okay, next time, what are we going to do with the next one?” As a producer, whenever I can find more time to play games, I’m taking that free time to go out and play other games just to play them and see what’s out there.
>>340610865
They invented the kind that the DualShock used.
Reminder that Zelda is not a heavyweight franchise capable of carrying an E3 presentation by itself. The biggest selling game in the entire history of the Zelda franchise OoT only sold 8 million copies during its original release. Pathetic figures compared with Mario/Pokemon sales.
This Nintendo E3 is going to be a spectacular failure.
>>340612165
>Zelda is not a heavyweight franchise capable of carrying an E3 presentation by itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U
>>340611992
>He might of created Mario. But that doesn't mean he owns Mario.
It does.
>Copyright doesn't worth that way. Games are created by more then one person.
Yes, but ideas are not.
Example.
Game is made.
Game is made up of three elements, 1, 2, and 3.
Three people made said game.
Person A made 1.
Person B made 2.
Person C made 3.
If 1 = a character mascot, Person A OWNS said mascot until they sell the property to someone else to be used.
That's how it works. Miyamoto made the character of Mario, this has been confirmed in interviews on the creation of Jumpman. Miyamoto literally created Mario based on inspiration from his landlord. He has been cited saying this numerous times. MIyamoto created Mario. By himself. Without any groups help. Therefore he owns Mario. He did do this with the help of a group or something, he did this by himself.
>>340612331
No it doesn't.
Nintendo really needs second/third-party support like they used to have. If they had powerful, non-gimmicky hardware easier to develop for than PS4/Xbone, that could easily attract more third parties.
NX could be at least N64 tier if they did it right. Imagine Resident Evil 7 and the RE2 remake as NX exclusives. Imagine a new Mega Man game as an NX exclusive. Imagine an expanded version of Doom 4 with extra content added to it, on NX. Imagine if DMC 5 were made, and it was NX exclusive.
Imagine if Nintendo bought back Rare from Microsoft and the NX got sequels to Banjo-Tooie, Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark and Conker.
Basically if they could get more popular devs on their side (Capcom, id, Platinum, etc.) NX could actually sell well. Then again maybe not, I'm just another autist on /v/ and I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
>>340612427
Dead wrong. Miyamoto created Mario, the character, based on his landlord. Not with the help of a group or something.
>>340612532
>Imagine if Nintendo bought back Rare from Microsoft
Stop saying this.
The people that say this have no idea what they're talking about.
Rare is a hollow empty shell of a company. None of the people who had any talent still work there. The few that did left to form Playtonic.
What remains is drones who only know how to make Kinect shovelware and repackage their games from when they were good.
>>340612120
No not at all, N64 analogue was based on 8 directional points, but ps was a literally ball
>>340588023
The worst plague around are Pretendos, people that pretend to be long time Nintendo fans and throw shit at "neo" Nintendo.
That and wannabe CEOs that think they have the keys to run a company. You see plenty of posts like "Nintendo should do like I say" but somewhat you never see posts like "Sony/Microsoft/Capcom/EA should do like I say". It's like everyone feels the need to change a specific company.
>>340612723
If Nintendo owned the Rare IPs again then they could just make it themselves, or let another dev like Retro Studios make it.
>>340612723
Add on to this the fact that tons of workers quit Rare due to poor working conditions when they did work for Nintendo, leading to a drop in title quality, and also the stamper brothers that were in charge leaving, cause they lost control of their company.
>>340612876
That's different from buying Rare back.
The studio is useless, the IPs are what matter.
>>340612331
>>340612621
I don't think you understand that Miyamoto was probably under a contract by Nintendo. The contract could've stated "Nintendo retains the rights to any series or characters you create." Copyright isn't as simple as "you made it, now it's yours." Miyamoto was a lowly employee of Nintendo back then, he came on to make artwork for arcade cabinets.
>>340612621
>common knowledge recap
read >>>340611992
And actually try to comprehend what's being said
>>340612313
Sales figures don't lie. All this proves is that Zelda fanboys are the loudest and most obnoxious subset of the Nintendo fanbase.
Because console wars have enslaved their minds, that's literally the only reason why
>>340613086
>The contract could've stated "Nintendo retains the rights to any series or characters you create."
No, contracts do not work that way. They only work that way for ideas created by a group or team. There is no such thing as a "if a single person makes a single idea, the company now owns that idea" contract. Now, the ownership of said copyright can be passed onto the company by choice, or by it being inherited.
>Miyamoto was a lowly employee of Nintendo back then
All the more reason it would make no sense for you to claim he would be under some imaginary idea contract or something.
Miyamoto has stated dozens of times in interviews that he created Mario based on his landlord. If the copyright of Mario really did belong to Nintendo itself, this would mean that in games that have Mario in them, the company itself would be credited instead of Miyamoto, but this is never the case. It always says "the rights to the character Mario are reserved by Shigeru Miyamoto".
They've shit the bed and dragged franchises I've loved from them through the mud long enough. I want them to die so said franchises can rest in peace finally.
Sadly it's not going to happen any time soon. They've got money and the ability to keep diehard fans attached to their waist. I used to adore them but they're a shell of their former self. Making video games by some mathematical formula to maximize profit instead of just making good quality titles.
>>340613554
>It always says "the rights to the character Mario are reserved by Shigeru Miyamoto".
When the hell has that ever happened?
>travel from US to EU
>both phones have 110-220v power adapters
>ps vita has a 110-220v adapter
>3ds has a 110v adapter
Thanks, Nintendo.
>>340588023
Nintendo has surpassed the point of benefiting the Game industry anymore.
At one time Nintendo was pumping out decent games, a few stellar titles each year, had consoles that actually sold well in droves. This kind of healthy competition basically meant, Microsoft and Sony had to step their game up, and Sega basically got knocked out of the market by them and Sony in the early 2000s.
This kind of competition is good, because it makes the whole industry strive to be better and make better products for the consumer. At this point though, Nintendo is not even competing with Sony or Microsoft. Their game releases, no matter how huge, are practically invisible to the Sony/MS audience and make no visible dent in sales in the gaming world anymore.
They've alienated their most loyal fans completely by constantly trying to bandwagon new consumers with casualized games, then isolated their casuals trying to switch back into "hardcore" games, which weren't even "hardcore" enough for their old core audience.
Nintendo in the year 2016, is basically just there.
Honestly I want them out of the market just because unless they can actually SERIOUSLY fix the ENTIRE DIRECTION of their company, they will not survive past 2025. I just don't see how it's plausible at all unless the NX is some kind of breakthrough success, which at this point seems doubtful since it looks like yet another gimmick box.
Nintendo games and consoles in the year 2016 take up shelf space and gaming website page real estate that could be better spent on games people actually buy, like Sony/MS and PC games.
That's all it is. Nintendo has simply played themselves out in my opinion and I sold my Wii U and 3DS 2 years ago because I fully lost all faith in this company after Smash was a complete failure. The only good Wii U games I had were Bayonetta 2 and Tropical Freeze, which were both 2nd party games.
Just let Nintendo die already. Let it sleep with Iwata.
>>340613114
>>340611992
>games are created by more then one person
>>340612621
>Miyamoto alone created Mario by basing it on his landlord.
Are you trying to say, with a straight face, that a group of people all talked about Miyamoto's landlord and decided that that would be Mario? First off, why would seperate employees at the company know Miyamoto's landlord? They don't all live together. Second off, he based his appearance around him too, are you saying everyone at Nintendo just went over and met Miyamoto's landlord? You aren't making much sense here.
>>340613704
>which at this point seems doubtful since it looks like yet another gimmick box.
We know literally nothing about it.
NeoFAGs and Sony fans
Basically it goes like this. Nintendo had a partnership with Sony. They broke the partnership when they realized they were getting screwed
The president of Sony in the 90's literally vowed to "destroy" Nintendo. Not even joking. That's exactly what he said.
Sony's early advertising, in both print and on TV reflected this intention. Sony was really aggressive and they cultivated the worst fanboys in the industry.
Only now it has snowballed on them, and everyone hates Sony fanboys, even other Sony fans.
Sony makes great products, but their fanbase is complete and utter shit.
And that's just the way it is.
>>340613767
You can continue repeating your common knowledge recap ad infinitum like a broken record instead of actually comprehending what I said.
It's your choice. But I feel like you might have autism.
>>340608839
Everything is only wrong when Nintendo does it.
>>340613836
It's weaker than an XBone. Gimmick box.
>>340613704
But they're doing just fine with Amiibo. Which is a sad thing in and of its own. But it's just that the fanbase does not care for quality products. The general populace does though. Yes they'll buy NSMB games but in general they sell less over time
>>340613906
>blindly believing internet rumors
Nintendo are commie bastards, they're so blind to their own bullshit it infects the people who suppory them and from that they attain a false god-like complex. Nintendo hasn't been good since the nineties, even then they were delusional but now it's so obnoxiously obvious only kids and people with child syndrome don't see it. Fuck
>>340588023
I've been sucking Nintendo's cock for years on end, I bought a Wii U on release day.
But even I want Nintendo to die now.
>Nintendo does something fucking stupid
>fans gets mad
>"well atleast this will teach them a lesson and they won't do something like this again"
>Nintendo does something even more fucking stupid
>Nintendo: "It's not us that's in the wrong, it's the fans, please understand, we know what we're doing, trust us, you just don't understand, fuck you."
>never improve
It's actually quite comical.
Every time i've been hopeful i've been let down and it's just gone on for to long and i've lost all hope, fuck Nintendo.
>>340588023
as a fan of nin, I wouldn't want them to go bankrupt but say, be on the brink of it to rethink their strategy. Say I bought a 3ds recently. A fucking mario game from 2011 costs fucking 40 GBP if bought digital. Are you fucking kidding me? Also, retarded interface- can't talk to your friends, can't connect to more than 3 wifis, etc.However, their games are a bliss. I mean not personally their, but the ones which come out on their consoles. They are expensive but damn, with every game bought you know you will get shitton of hours of fun out of each game. Let's say even fantasy life or animal crossing.
>>340614045
yeah those same blind internet rumors turned out to be pretty fucking accurate about wii, ds, 3ds and wii u all those years ago.
honestly I can't remember the last time Nintendo made something that wasn't a gimmick box, portable or home console. The last thing was probably the gamecube, and even that had the faggy little discs and a handle for some godforsaken nipponese line of reasoning.
it's going to be a gimmick box and you are fully lying to yourself if you think it's not going to be.
>>340614153
It feels really good when you finally sell all your Nintendo consoles, doesn't it? Like you just dumped a really toxic girlfriend or something, you never realize how much you hated Nintendo until you just let it all go.
>>340613704
>Nintendo games and consoles in the year 2016 take up shelf space and gaming website page real estate that could be better spent on games people actually buy, like Sony/MS and PC games.
>Shelf space
Jesus fucking Christ, you sound like a giant tool. Nintendo leaving doesn't mean the others will suddenly produce dozens more titles.
>>340614287
>yeah those same blind internet rumors turned out to be pretty fucking accurate about wii, ds, 3ds and wii u all those years ago.
I forgot how the Wii U had no hard drive, looked like this, and had a traditional controller with a touch screen instead of the hulking slab of tablet it actually was.
>>340613704
>Smash was a complete failure
What did he mean by this? The game didn't flop at all, so were you just not satisfied or are you a huge Meleefag?
I am earnestly only mad at the slow rate with which Nintendo and their third parties are producing games. Even the PS4, with about one worthwhile game every four to five months, is outpacing the Wii-U and 3DS. My Wii-U was nothing short of active with Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, MH3U, etc., but now it's only used for Splatoon and randomly Sm4sh. Where the fuck are the third party titles? Where are the ports? Why isn't Nintendo funding anything to come on their platform? I can literally only see #FE, LoZ-U, and Mario and Sonic as upcoming Wii-U exclusives for the rest of time so far, and every other potential entry is an indie port that has existed on every other platform for years now.
I would even be fine buying ports, ISOs, whatever you want to call them, of Gamecube or Wii titles in large doses. But they keep only putting out a couple at a time, and they rarely ever hit niche titles or those JRPGs that people would quickly shell out money for. What the fuck is happening, Nintendo?
At the very least, it's still provided for me more than my PS4, which presently has Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, and Overwatch. But my PS4 is making some steep promises. My Wii-U is only scratching its head and gathering dust.
>>340614768
SSBM Sales: 994,412,032,011 in Europe ALONE
SSB4 Sales: 1,002 GLOBAL updated as of two days ago
Contest this
>>340614624
even that shitty render hits 9/10 marks
>small lame piece of shit with no/little memory
>controller with a fucking screen
>looks like a tiny slim box
it's going to be a gimmick box and you literally know it. that's all Nintendo has: gimmicks.
>>340614768
I bought the game on release date with a Gamecube controller.
Honestly it just wasn't fun. Way too floaty, way too defensive, not even close to being as fun as Melee despite all the new characters/stages. Basically I lost interest in it faster than I lost interest in Brawl.
>>340614450
It will mean they'll sell more copies though. Which in a climate where Nintendo is literally producing nothing worthwhile and nothing people care about, means the market is better with them just exiting.
It's like Bernie Sanders staying in the fucking election.
Like listen, we get it. Hillary Clinton is a career criminal, Trump is a crazy businessman. But Bernie needs to learn: it's over. Hillary and Donald are the nominees. He's just obfuscating the election and stealing voters from Hillary and Donald (read: the two people of whom one of which will be the next President [spoiler alerts=it's gonna be Trump]). Basically the sooner Bernie and whoever else get their face off the television screens, the sooner the American people can sit down and decide if they want Clinton or Trump. And we all knew from the very beginning, Bernie was a gimmick candidate (LOL free college, $15/h min wage!).
Nintendo is the same thing. Everybody literally knows Sony and Microsoft as well as Steam are the dominant forces in the market. Nintendo is just there and takes up shelf space that could be used to give the companies people actually care about more money. And those people could then invest money that would have been in the hands of Nintendo (who would just push more gimmicks and casual games) into games on Sony/MS/PC that people will actually play.
Basically yes, the industry would benefit from them exiting.
>>340614153
You'd really have a point if they weren't making such a damn profit off of artificially scarce amiibo glorification. It's pokebank and mega evolution all over again
>>340615041
>not even close to being as fun as Melee
Ah, that explains it, Meleefag.
>>340614974
where the flying fuck did you get these sales from
>>340615228
Melee World News
>>340595754
PC gaming is more or less revolved around F2P and Mobas now. You're lucky if there's one big game a year that the PC gaming community gets behind.
>>340614287
>>340614624
Also the Gamepad is 480p instead of 1080p and there's still no fucking ethernet port inside the wiiu
>>340614974
>more sales than people on the planet
>>340615041
>Bring his /pol/ opinions into /v/
And in fact maybe I should clarify: They need to get out of the market of selling consoles.
You know deep in your hearts that a world with Mario, Metroid and Fire Emblem games being produced by Nintendo and published on Sony/MS consoles and PC is exactly what you've always wanted for the past 15 years.
You KNOW, the gaming market would actually be better for everyone this way and these series' titles would sell more and have more games in the series developed if this was the case.
We would actually have the new Zelda game in our hands right now if it was developed for PC and PS4 or something like this.
>>340615381
When Donald is President, you can thank us.
>>340615228
Look I get it, you want to defend your investment. I did too. Smash 4 was the primary reason I bought a Wii U, I bought both the 3ds and Wii U version, I had two gamecube controllers with the adapter, I spent money on Amiibos, I get it.
The game sucked. The game flopped. The game wasn't fun.
Eventually I realized my mistake in buying it and sold everything. Eventually when you get Nintendo's tiny Japanese penis out of your mouth, you too will do the same.
>>340614879
They shifted all development to the NX so they can make a clean start, that's for certain.
>Where the fuck are the third party titles?
Third parties plain do not like Nintendo home consoles, period. Nintendo drove them away during the SNES and N64 era with their insistence on sticking with cartridges and Yamauchi's horrible business practices and they've been reluctant to come back since. Nintendo tried to get them to come back when the Wii U launched but all they gave them were half-assed ports of last gen games and a few lukewarm titles like ZombiU. Then they used that as an excuse not to support them any longer and the Wii U's sales sealed the deal. A few stayed just to stab them in the back like Ubisoft who held finished games from releasing and delayed an exclusive right before it released to port it to other consoles.
>>340601629
>>340615041
>>340615041
>Which in a climate where Nintendo is literally producing nothing worthwhile and nothing people care about,
Meanwhile their games are still selling millions, and some even more than some of Sony and MS's games
You don't speak for the whole industry, fuck off
>>340615409
>The game flopped.
Factually false
>Eventually when you get Nintendo's tiny Japanese penis out of your mouth, you too will do the same
And putting Sony, MS AND Steam's cocks in my mouth will somehow be better.
I will never understand the hate for the Gamepad. it's easily one of the most comfortable controllers around, having the screen on it is fucking amazing, and it's got such nice buttons. My only beef with it is a weak battery, and I can just replace it with a better one if I ever suddenly can't just keep the thing plugged in.
>>340615409
Grown adults take an interest in politics and prefer Melee.
While I myself already outgrew politics. I still share this sentiment. I'm a yuropoor and Europe needs Trump.
>>340604131
You're kidding right?
>>340615409
>The game sucked. The game flopped. The game wasn't fun.
Crazy how none of that is true. Just like everything Trump says.
>>340602742
You have to understand that times have changed. Kids nowadays don't find Mario cool. They find Call of Duty cool.
>>340615409
>You know deep in your hearts that a world with Mario, Metroid and Fire Emblem games being produced by Nintendo and published on Sony/MS consoles and PC is exactly what you've always wanted for the past 15 years.
I see you're another one of those faggots who believe if Nintendo goes third party all their problems will wash away. That's not how it works. It's still gonna be the same company making the same games.
>>340604263
>Sweet I jump into a pit and a balloon saves me without punishing me for screwing up!!!
>If I use easy mode, the game is easy
NO WAY!!!
>>340615913
>They find Call of Duty cool.
Not anymore, they're all going to jump ship to Battlefield 1.
>>340588023
Because having a monopoly is actually beneficial in the software industry. Why the fuck would I want 3 consoles to run different shit, when I can have just one console to run every fucking game out there?
>>340615865
What about any of that is wrong?
>>340615982
If you want games to cost over 100 dollarydoos, sure
>>340615808
It's great if you live with other people since you can just play on the gamepad.
But I do with the screen was higher resolution.
>>340616048
Games already cost $100 fuckaroonies.
>implying console manufacturers aren't already mutually price fixing
>>340615982
>Because having a monopoly is actually beneficial
How incredibly short sighted.
At this very moment things are incredibly chaotic for Nintendo with Iwatas death sparked an complete company restructuring that Nintendo themselves are keeping hush hush right now. things ARE changing thats for certain.
>The recent news when Nintendo has held back the console for VR purposes.
>Fucking VR
If I'am not correct Current VR is EXTREMELY demanding of the hardware we have today I wonder if the NX will actually be a return to form.
>>340598390
lol
>>340615768
They have bigger, better and thicker cocks. So yes, it would be better.
>>340615947
>It's still gonna be the same company making the same games.
Yes except I wont have to buy a stupid gimmick box to be able to play them. I'll be able to easily switch out my copy of Street Fighter V with a copy of Metroid Prime 4 or something.
>>340615847
One day you will get your Trump, but first you must overthrow Lord Merkel and deal with the refugee crisis. When the globalists have been overthrown in America, Trump will extend his hand to our European brothers who need our help.
>outgrew politics
lol
>>340615673
They make like 1 title that sells millions a year. These other companies print out multiple multimillion dollar games every quarter.
The comparison doesn't even deserve to be made. it's like comparing a midget to Lebron in terms of dunking ability.
>>340615768
>>340615878
I remember Melee as a kid just being this massive phenomenon. Literally everyone played it, everyone who didn't own it would go to the house of someone who did have it and would play it all night. Even as a high school/college student, there were times when someone would pull out smash 64 or melee and the whole college floor would start playing it and having a hell of a time.
there's just none of that fun with Smash 4. it's such a slow floaty game in comparison. everyone I knew who were massive Smash players just lost interest in the series and stopped playing after less than 3 months.
it was just objectively a worse game than Melee and was the breaking point that made me, and many, many other people, sell their Wii Us.
Also Donald Trump might occasionally spout some silly bullshit, but he's about 10x better at not lying than Hillary/Obama/Sanders
>>340616012
Bad controls =/= challenging gameplay
>>340615975
I wonder how the Veterans feel that their francise is now a ship filled with shitters and children.
>>340616342
I think anyone that cared about old Battlefield gave up on the franchise a long time ago.
>>340616142
>How incredibly short sighted.
How exactly?
>>340616221
He's not thin so it's technically not hypocritical.
>>340616221
>They make like 1 title that sells millions a year. These other companies print out multiple multimillion dollar games every quarter.
That is again factually false. Can you get anything fucking right?
>Yes except I wont have to buy a stupid gimmick box to be able to play them.
You literally just admitted the games will suck unitl they get on your console of choice. Way to fucking go /pol/fag.
>>340589036
>autistic nintendobabies actually think this
>muh HEXbox
>>340616221
>lol
You'll grow out of it. Don't worry.
>every europe is germany
We got Wilders here. He's even better than Trump.
>>340616221
>there's just none of that fun with Smash 4.
Yes there is. My friends and I have been out of college for a while now, and we still get together all the time for Smash 4. Seems like you simply have no friends and no taste.
>it was just objectively a worse game than Melee and was the breaking point that made me, and many, many other people, sell their Wii Us.
Again, aside from possibly you sellig your WiiU, none of that is true.
>>340616142
Please don't teach him middleschool tier shit, just wait for a mod to ban him. This is the average intelligence of people playing videogames after all. if he wasn't underage it'd be even sadder
>>340616297
Good thing no Nintendo games have bad controls then.
>>340616586
3D World called
>>340616221
>everyone I knew who were massive Smash players just lost interest in the series and stopped playing after less than 3 months.
Shit that never happened for 500 Alex
>>340616671
I answered. We discussed how it's the best 3D Mario game, and went about our business.
>>340616745
Prove it.
>>340616671
Where did this "3D World has bad controls" maymay suddenly come from?
>YOU MEAN I HAVE TO HOLD THE RUN BUTTON? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
You mean like EVERY OTHER MARIO GAME??
>>340616529
>Seems like you simply have no friends and no taste.
The irony.
>>340616770
>maymay
stopped reading there, you never get tired of your little tirade?
>>340601427
The Wii sold 100 million units didn't it?
>>340616870
Do you?
>>340615982
>Because having a monopoly is actually beneficial.
wow what the fuck am I reading here ? competition is healthy for the industry.
Just look at TF2 and Overwatch.
>>340616907
>deflecting
try again
>>340616480
>it's factually false that Nintendo is fiscally irrelevant compared to the juggernauts that are Sony and Microsoft.
Boy it's like the Nintendo fans are more deluded than the liberals. I'm not denying once or twice a year Nintendo makes a game that sells, but that's the problem. It's once or twice a year. Meanwhile the other platforms have a steady diet of new games that sell well every month or so. You'd be literally ignorant to say this isn't true. I like Nintendo games, at one point in time they were actually consistently good, I just really hate their stupid consoles and don't want to have to buy them anymore to play the one good Nintendo game that comes out each year.
Also the Smash 4 scene is basically dead, people would still rather watch competitive Melee. Personally I'll play Smash at a friend's house, but that Smash 4 box to me just looked so much better when turned into PSN dollars thanks to Gamestop.
>>340616738
Yeah after a while it was just impossible to find people to play with. Everyone I knew who had bought the game very quickly moved on to something else and just got bored of it. As of right now I don't know any of my Wii U owning friends who still play the game. Mostly I just hear my friends mention the console saying "man it's gotten so dusty lately, there's nothing to play on Wii U these days!" On the other hand I play Overwatch, Street Fighter and Guilty Gear with my bros on the regular these days.
>>340616524
Maybe when the political climate becomes stable and our leaders are half competent I'll stop caring. As of right now it's very hard not to care about North American politics. After Trump has entered us into a Golden Age of prosperity, maybe politics will seem less interesting. Also if the EU leaders and Bilderberg Group has their way, every European nation WILL become Germany.
>>340616767
Look, it's 5am, I'm not going to type out the same paragraph I've typed out a million times over just for you to say "nuh uh" and shitpost some more. You just keep on screaming "Nintendooomed", claiming everything Nintendo does is bad, and shitposting. Suffice to say, 3D World takes everything good about 3D Mario games (tons of movement options, gorgeous visuals, finding hidden secrets in a fun 3D world), everything great about 2D Mario games and the Galaxy games (fun, unique level design, obstacle courses that offer a solid challenge and high level count), and adds multiplayer to it.
Now, proceed to pretend what I said isn't true, and have a good evening.
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>>340617009
Avatarfagging is against the rules.
>>340617009
>Maybe when the political climate becomes stable and our leaders are half competent I'll stop caring
Ah no, you'll get bored. It happens to everyone. Politics are an incredible dull conversation topic, and being a shill is being less than human regardless of what same-side of the coin you're 'fighting' for. In the end you're so insignificant you'll never matter in the majority of things. Your vote won't. The people you influenced to vote won't. It's that simple. If you don't feel that way yet, that's good for you, we all go through personal growth at different paces. I'm not judging you if you got that impression.
>>340595509
Why do you push this meme? Gaming is a huge industry
>>340617009
>Everyone I knew who had bought the game very quickly moved on to something else and just got bored of it. As of right now I don't know any of my Wii U owning friends who still play the game.
>Mostly I just hear my friends mention the console saying "man it's gotten so dusty lately, there's nothing to play on Wii U these days!" On the other hand I play Overwatch, Street Fighter and Guilty Gear with my bros on the regular these days.
Keep on lying on 4chan, that's show everyone!
>>340617135
Don't be such a stick in the ass anon
>>340617112
>appeal to emotion
Prove it instead of resorting to your bogeyman delusions. Your bogeyman delusions do not substitute for your lack of argument, it's basically an attempt at controlling the conversation and to most seen as just talking to yourself, reply to what I've got to say instead of your delusions.
>>340616980
>competition is healthy for the industry.
Not for the gaming industry.
1 device running everything >>>> than 1 good device and 2 shitty ones running 2-3 exclusives each.
>>340617009
>implying you have friends
>implying you aren't lying through your fingers
This makes me laugh.
