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Why did they do it?
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>>340528515

They wanted Trevor's first appearance to really leave an impression that he was a crazy bastard.

As for why they decided to make Johnny the victim? I don't know. It did make me feel kind of sour because he was one of my favorite GTA protagonists.
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Continuity is good
Opening cutscene of the next game we will see trevor dying
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>>340528515
They were really desperate to get people to care about him, so they did the one thing that was sure to rile up anybody playing.

That and they had to justify the Lost being in the game somehow.
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SO DEEP AND DARK AND EDGY AND OUT OF CONTROL

CUUURAHZY BALLOON!
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>>340529004
Not a GTA fan, can you tell me where's that guy from?(I mean Johnny)
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>>340528515
Because Trevor is a poorly written character.

GTA 5 in general is poorly written. I personally think this is because GTA 4 tried to have a more mature and well-written storyline and was shat on for doing so. So GTA 5 is just typical B-movie shlock.
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>>340529739

http://www.rockstargames.com/thelostanddamned/

A DLC Storyline for GTAIV
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>>340529739
>Can you spoonfeed me plz, anon.

You also type like you don't belong here.
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>>340529793

I was so insulted by the fact that all three main antagonists are setup at the end to be killed one after the other and then the storyline is closed then and there.

The most anticlimatic shit I've ever experienced.

Even worse than Halo 2 ending.
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>>340530006
Japanese people are gonna be used next
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>>340529845
How come GTA5 got no DLC
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imagine if they chose niko instead
holy fuck i'd be legitimately mad if there was a fat, bald, scabby, crusty, drug addicted niko in V pissed off at trevor for cucking him then trevor just kills him on the spot.
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>>340530107

because of GTAO.

That's their main focus. The point of GTAO is to be focused on the player, rather than developer written characters.
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>>340529369

It was lame and unbelievable how a lot of characters from IV appeared in V. Off the top of my head:

-Packie
-The Lost MC crew (Johnny, Ashley, Clay, Terry)
-The United Liberty Paper Agent
-Marnie Allen
-Michelle
-Rocco
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>>340528515
kill the most badass motorgang leader like a fuckin fly, most retarded GTA ever
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>>340530006
CJ was black, and his game came out like 12 years ago.
>12 years ago
>I feel old
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>>340530006
>>>/pol/
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I liked it.
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>>340530286

>lazlo being alive since Tommy Verceti's days and being turned into a massive bitch
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>>340530351
nothing bad ass about motorgangs

south park is still right about people who drive bikes
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>>340530351
Yeah, years of meth and shit will do that
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>>340530351
Puts everything in check
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>>340530375
>12 years ago since GROVE STREET. HOME.

Shit, man.
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>>340530273
GTAO is still a thing? Isnt it infested with hackers by now
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>>340530704

Extremely. But they're still pushing it forward. They're releasing a major "expansion" to it soon
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>>340530006
I don't care about niggers, but dam, Why everybody are black?
>Halo
>Mafia
>Battlefield
>Destiny
>Watchdogs
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>>340530850
Master Chief is black?
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>>340530704
They're still around, but damn near devoid of them on current gen consoles.

RIP PC servers.
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>>340530919
no but the new hero is
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so you retards a done bitching about girls in games and now are going to latch onto this
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>>340530836
What, recently heard they were taking it offline.
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>>340528515
>people are still mad the faggot got his head stomped in.

He was a pussy who couldn't shake his junkie whore of a girlfriend loose and then got mad because he literally got cucked.

Plus the gripe people had with GTA4 was that it was 'too serious' so they had the bat shit insane cry baby faggot kill off one of the characters in the new game and people get mad because oh waaaaa I liked Johnny. TLATD sold less than BoGT so no you didn't 'like' Johnny. You're just mad he went out like the bitch he was.
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Edge factor
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>>340531083
>>340530006
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>>340531083

Who's gonna be the Anita of the black representation?
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>>340530850
Betta get ready for it white boy we are taking the shit now cracka betta give your gf too cumskin whiteboy
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>>340530919
>Master Chief
>Protagonist of 343's Halo
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>>340531125

Why the fuck would they take it offline?

Are you autistic?

Are you trolling?

Here is your (you)
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>>340531083
No one bitches about girls in games. They bitch about girls outside of games making demands on what girls in games should wear and act like.
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I just want Claude Speed to come back and kill the GTA 5 protagonists and say absolutely nothing while he does it.
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>>340531125
Rockstar said they wont support it forever
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They wanted the introduction to this character to be striking as well as make the players have mixed feelings about him. What better way to mess with the players than have him kill a character you connected with and make them go what the fuck i dont know about this guy
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>>340531218
As a black dude. I can answer swiftly. Nobody. Believe it or not we don't want the fucking SJWs 'helping' us.
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>>340531296
this>>340530006
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>>340531358
>a few years is apparently forever
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>>340530375
>>340530641
All we had to do was follow the damn train CJ
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>>340530006
>trying to relate to video game characters

It's time to go outside.
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>>340530460
III, VC, and SA are in a different timeline
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>>340529004

One of your favorite protagonists is a meth head that looks like some random NPC?
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>>340530850

Care enough to casually use obsolete racial slurs that are before you time.
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>>340532134
Nigger never goes out of style, nigger.
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>>340529004
It's pretty much this.

Introducing Trevor like that is one of the only examples of clever writing in the game.

Also, they probably chose Johnny because he was the least popular of all the GTA IV protags.
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>>340532339
If you think, nigger affects the 'nu' blacks. You're very misinformed.
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Top make Trevor edgy and cool for all the 14 year olds.

>WHOA MAN HE'S SO CRAZY! XD

>>340531352
Also this
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>>340531352

This is how GTA 6 should start.
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>>340532478
What's with the comma? Did they not teach you proper punctuation in the ghetto?
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>>340530006
How do black people have a mafia? Does the game take place outside the us?
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>>340533000
something about black guy's friends get killed by mafia, so it's just a revenge story.
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Cucked to death.
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>>340531352
He was such a real human bean
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Trevor is legitimately fun and his actor is greater than all the other GTAHD goofballs including John Marston. You're not fooling anyone by acting upset over him killing that faggot Johnny.
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>>340533080
so you're not even IN the mob?

what the fuck man
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they're all part of the criminal underworld
people get fucked over and killed

i'd be very surprised if Niko is still alive
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>>340533478
The greatest thing GTAV did was help Steven Ogg's career take off. He's showing up all over the place, now.
Has anyone seen that Henry Rollins movie "He Never Died" that came out last year? Trevor has a small, but important, part in it, and he's fantastic.
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>>340530006
Why are they always using black people instead of hispanics, they represent a bigger percentage of the population already
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>>340533080
>game is called Mafia 3
>protagonist doesn't have what it takes to be a *REAL* Mafioso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7IZPMf1lHA

The only reason I'd play a game called Mafia is because I want to be in the mafia goddamn it.
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>>340533667
The thing about Hispanics is, you don't really know when most of us are around, because of the generations of mixing with whites. My grandfather was literally named Jose Hernandez, yet I'm pale with blue eyes. The only things that might give me away are the dark curly hair and shitty facial hair.
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>>340529938
It really was an unfulfilling ending, they should have taken the time to kill off all the antagonists over different missions (and build up their characters for more than 2 missions each, I still don't know what Stretch's purpose was and how he fit into the finale at all).

Also didn't help that they cut the game down to 69 missions (so funny) instead of upping it from the usual 80 or 90.
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>>340533842
>tfw Filipino and have shitty facial hair

Are Filipino's the beaners of Asia?
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>>340529004
>They wanted Trevor's first appearance to really leave an impression that he was a crazy bastard.
What's funny is I felt almost nothing because it had been too long. I see this as someone who read Hell's Angel's content like a weirdo for months during the time IV's DLC released. He just wasn't that impactul as a MC.

Wanna shock me? Kill the guy from GTA III. He's my nigga.
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>>340531358
They won't support it forever, but they'll just replace it with an online version of GTA6.
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>>340529869

You don't belong on here you worthless piece of shit your dad should have swallowed you.
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>>340533650
>Steven Ogg in The Walking Dead
Fucking glorious. I hope his character has a decent amount of screen time next season.
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>>340534219
Yes, yes they are. You can thank Spanish colonialism for that.
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>>340530107
Blame shitty GTA online
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10440203
Only included the important ones
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>>340534406
Hopefully. Dude is amazing.
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>>340530006
Mafia III is bad. The delay is not going to add more content, just soften the blow.

Battlefield I might be incredible.

No clue about that third game.

Watch Dogs 2 will have to fix every single mistake of the first game to be viable. The first game had A LOT of mistakes.
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>>340534631
Claude and Michael are the best protagonists, but V and III are tied for worst actual GTA games. A bad GTA game is still great, though.
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>>340534225
GTA 3 is easily the worst GTA.
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>>340534834
Are you going for easy bait? Of course it is. I just like Claude.
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Because rockstar post SA are hacks
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In all seriousness why the fuck did they even bother making multiple endings? The C ending keeps everyone alive and doesn't lock you out of 100%.
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>>340534631
I'm the only guy who voted for Tommy
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>>340530108
There's no way Trevor would fuck with Niko as he did with Johnny. In gta he was spooked by mute protagonist's behavior, and we all remember how Niko at starring silently on people.
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Anyone else get the impression that it's kiddos who don't love GTA IV?
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>>340532134
Stop beating around the bush and tell him you're upset because of his racism.
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>>340531352
he got cucked by CJ
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>>340530006
Are you just spamming this in every thread? This has nothing to do with this discussion.
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>>340535413
I think your favorite GTA has a lot to do with age. People who are in their 20s right now are going to prefer SA and IV over the rest.

That being said, I'm in my 20s, and I truly believe that SA and IV are objectively the best GTA games.
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>>340533478
Ogg is an amazing actor
>mfw Trevor's giant fence-fall rant being ad-libbed after Ogg tripped in the motion capture
>Franklin's actor trying to play along while he carries the entire thing probably scared shitless thinking he was seriously pissed off
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>>340535035
Trevor and Michael side missions aren't required for 100%
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>>340534631
>No Vic Vance
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>>340535529
I think you have it turned the other way around.

Catalina cucked CJ by going with Claude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjnt3xjpGo
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>>340535529
Other way around. Claude cucked CJ, who was then cucked by Miguel. Then Claude kills Catalina.
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>>340528515
>yfw RD3 kills off Jack Marston within the first 5 minutes
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>>340533478
>John Marston
>Max Payne
>Niko Bellic
>MFW rockstars has the most badass male characters
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>>340529004
Imagine if he was introduced torturing CJ from San Andreas to death. Now that would be a gut punch
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>>340528515
Anti-semitism
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>>340529004

>Liking a cuckold meth head who threw out all of his character development from the first game and cries over a bitch who fucks other men for drugs

He deserved it.
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>>340535580
This makes me like him so much more. You can teach a dog to act, but it takes real skill to improvise.
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>>340533000
AWWWW SHIT MOTHER FUCKING TRIPS
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>>340535610
I thought Trevor's mom stranger misson did. Alas, who really wants to kill one of em after the 30+ hours you spent with either.
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>>340535580
Is there a video of this scene?
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>>340536135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aoPtVmV7II
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>>340536308
Wrong pic
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>>340530460

He was pretty pathetic in 4 which was fine, he was a washed up loser but his loserdom was way too unsubtle in 5
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>>340535819
>it's Jack Swift's illegitimate bastard son from before he died
>mini-games include gun spinning and trickshots to make extra cash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIV3j2C2Rv0
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>>340531352
YEAH

How great would that be? And the game would be arcadey and crazy as shit and it would have actual humour in it instead of 9gag-tier random bullshit humour like in 5.
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>>340535580
That was improvised? That's such a long scene. No way.
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>>340537585
The improv only lasts for about 2 minutes.
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>>340533616
From what they said I think Niko really did finally do what he was bitching about and left the criminal world for good, so he might be alive. Anyone who had a grudge against him from then is also dead, so he probably won't get dragged back into it either.
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>>340536647
IV, imo, saw the best iteration of his character
Kinda felt off that Rockstar made him as goofy and over the top in terms of being a washed up has-been. Did normies not listen to the radio or did they just not pay attention or something? There's no need to spoonfeed a character like that.
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>>340533000

American Gangster?
Fuck, man, basic late 2000's culture. Movie's not even obscure.
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>>340531792
>tfw they are in the timeline where rockstar still makes good GTA games
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>TLAD is about you keeping your shitty biker gang together and then eventually running away with your girlfriend
>Trevor is introduced fucking that girl then promptly destroys the biker gang in one chapter

The absolute fucking madmen
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>>340538028
>implying IV isn't just as good as SA

SA = IV(including DLC) > VC > III = V

Also, every GTA game is good, even the bad ones.
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Carl "CJ" Johnson was the greatest GTA protagonist there was, and ever will be.
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>>340538203
Only thing that redeemed Gta 4 was the DLC. Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost and the Damned were pretty good DLC and added a fuckton more content to the game

But gta 4 alone can't stand up against the previous gta titles even with its driving.
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>>340538292
Yes reddit, it is.
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>>340533616
After you beat GTAV you'll occasionally see Jimmy looking at Niko's not-facebook profile with recent updates so he's still alive in canon
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>>340530006
fuck off
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>>340528515
Because fan hated that fat whiny jew
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>>340534406
I hope GTAV has given him a keen eye against Daryl's videogame level reflexes god damn it.
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>>340538751
It won't matter at all. Negan killed Daryl. Norman has too many other things going on to continue TWD.
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>>340538461
The gameplay in all the GTAs kinda suck. IV made up for it with the most immersive overworld.
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>>340536308
I hate this shit, this is the kind of stuff that made me hate Trevor, no one acts like this
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>>340535843
Don't forget Cole Phelps who was kind of bland as a person but when it came to fight dude was a stone cold killer.
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>>340539236
You're autistic and you're missing the point.
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>>340528515
Because he was an evil piece of shit and deserved worse.

Trevor also deserved what he got. I was in glee when that little faggot burned to death.
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>>340539710
You mean he got what he deserved in the non-canon ending? The ending that cuts you off from any side missions for that character that you didn't finish?
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>>340530286
Packie at least got to talk about his past activities.
The lost were completely wasted.
ULP was supposed to be the Ciharette Smoking Man, and you just shoot him dead.
Marnie is slightly more believable, a homeless runaway crackhead finding religion.
Michelle... i cant remember her being there.
Fuck Rocco.
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>>340539861
>canon
Only the nigger living is canon . You're never going to see Trev or Michael in a future GTA.
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>>340539861
What do you mean, anon? It IS the canon ending, because the bad guy dies. The other two certainly aren't angels but they're misguided at worst.

Trevor was an evil little shit who should've suffered longer.
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>>340539637
Then enlighten me, what's the point?
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>>340539930
Michelle is interrogating Mr. K and threatens to shove a flashlight up his ass. She's also a contact for the online heists.
>>340539982
The good ending is canon.
>>340539989
Does "bad guy" mean "only interesting character" in your country?
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>>340528515
Trevor is the worst thing about GTA5. The real ending is with him dead
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>>340533616
Packie states that he's not sure what happened to Niko. Lester states that an Eastern European was making a name in Liberty City a few years ago but had gone quiet after some Wedding business.
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>>340540123
>le edgy foreigner post
>sociopaths are interesting people, hon hon hon
>I'd rather burn in hell and be surrounded by interesting people : the post

Three way shitposting. This is must be an accomplishment for you.
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>>340539989
>there will never be a fourth ending where you kill the main antagonists and then have Franklin waste Michael and Trevor
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>>340540247
>There will never be a DLC that warrants Franklin existing. He's just here to tell San Andreas fans that they're all fags.
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>>340540232
>hon hon hon
>le
>caring about morals in a GTA game
Not only are you a foreigner, but you're clearly a redditor. You know, when moot wanted an image board to discuss things on, he didn't start using one from Japan, he created his own. Is there nobody in your country that's capable of doing the same?
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>>340536308
So, Bonnie was essentially Annie.
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>>340540247
>there will never be an ending where you kill Michael and Trevor and then yourself all for being the worst GTA characters ever
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GTA IV was disappointing at the time because SA had so many RPG mechanics and content and crazy missions.

IV removed aeroplanes, stats and a whole lot of other shit. But it had loads of new technology that wasn't there before so it was great in its own right.

V then trashed all that interesting shit to cash in on SA nostalgia with its half-arsed stats and garbage missions and characters.
V is the worst.
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>>340539334
PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND SURRENDER!

*Blasts the shit out of everyone with a tommygun anyway*
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>>340540409
>>340540458
I'm sure somebody datamined and found a whole ton of stuff sugegsting Franklin could die and you play as Lamar. character model, VA lines and animations etc.
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>>340540636
Why are you sure?
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>>340528515
I liked it. It was ballsy to do something realistic. Those on top don't always stay, Johnny, the guy you kinda liked and did 20 (DLC characters needed 20 missions minimum) missions with and learned to like, who was also a piece of shit, but just less of a piece of shit than his last boss, he deserved everything.
He's a junkie 35 year old member of a biker gang who isn't serious about any kind of life. He's not quite scum, but he's scum enough for Trevor.
I adore Trevor. He's wrong most of the time, he overreacts and I can't stand a lot of his rants, but the good writers know what Trevor is.
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i want a sequel to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeCkHimTxo
but after gta 5 i think rockstar will never ever be capable of making such a good game
the writing is trash and the gameplay sucked dick in gta 5
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>>340534406
You know he'll get killed off in the first episode of the next season.
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>>340540686
http://www.gamepur.com/news/12306-gta-v-list-features-and-elements-was-cut-final-retail-build.html

"Code within the game reveals that The "deathwish" option at the end of the game originally intended to kill Franklin off, replacing him with Lamar. There are significantly more animations and lines of dialogue for Lamar than there are other characters."
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>>340530006

You don't mean Op, right?

Johnny is a Jew biker.
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>>340531218

Dave Chapelle
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>>340528515
I don't like how they made him turn to drugs and even revive the lost, I thought that shit was supposed to be done.
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>>340540992
>Anthony Cumia of the Opie & Anthony Show revealed that he was appearing in the game as a "Breaking Bad"-like character. That character didn't end up in the final build.
If I recall correctly, Anthony played the last Irish brother you killed in that farmhouse, the meth cook in the basement.
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>>340528515
If you shoot johnny after the cutscene is over there is a hit marker.
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>>340530006
Oh boy here goes some quality shit posting
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>>340531352
>>340533000
story based in New Orleans, lots of black people.
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>>340535529
Did you play SA? Or are you just spewing buzzwords?
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>>340530006
Please, kill yourself.
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>>340536127
>Alas
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>>340530006
>post a beta key in a dead by daylight thread
>week ban
>make a blatant offtopic /pol/ post
>that's fine
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>>340535902
There was never character development for Johnny. Hes still a bitch at the end of the DLC
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>>340535690
>>340542631
>>340535728
>Catalina cucked CJ with Claude
No, CJ didn't even want her. Claude was the cuck because Catalina was only with him to make someone else jealous.
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>>340529606
>>340529793
Fucking this, the writing in GTA V was so bland and shitty. The story is terrible, the protagonists barely have any depth, and there aren't any memorable characters or moments in any of the shitty "collect fifty macguffins for a prize" missions. Trying to reach a halfway point between the campy, over-the-top feeling of the 3D games and the serious, mature tone of IV also didn't help.

I can't say I'm surprised though. GTA Online was the real focus so of course R* had a bunch of unpaid interns write V's script.
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>>340530006
>tfw you won't buy any of this nigger shit
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>>340543583
She still cucked him since she never came back to CJ. And even if she did cuck Claude, he killed her and the guy she cucked him with in the end so Claude remains uncucked.
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>>340543838
>tfw buying B1ttlefield because it will probably be fun maybe
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>>340543416
He calls Ashley and says her to fuck off. He fucking kills almost every single LC chapter men because of civil war and burn to the ground their base. Basically he deeply disappointed with entire LnD club. He never touched meth in the game.
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>>340544000
also, Claude cucked Salvatore, and then killed Maria. Claude is the best.
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>>340537848
He was best in Liberty City Stories and GTA 3 imo. LCS being my favorite Lazlo.
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>>340531352

Never even knew this guy had a name.

Didnt his ass randomly get killed in San Andreas?
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>>340544457
The name comes from SA. Thanks for revealing you've never played it.
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>>340544457
No. SA takes place before GTA 3 and CJ beat him in a race and Claudia went with Claude to Carcer city which is where GTA3's opening takes place.
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>>340535843
Cloud Strife
Ashley Riot
Fei
Dad Nier

Nah, its square.
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>>340544952
>Cloud Strife
Oh yeah, look at this manly man.
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>There are people itt who think Trevol was the bad guy out of 3

lol
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>>340544952
>Ashley Riot
Mah nigga.
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>>340535112
Niko gawking at him would probably just piss Trevor off unless they had been friends already and not just acquaintances like Johnny was
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>>340531792
the way I see it the 3D era of GTAs exist during the HD era merely as myths and urban legends; definitely having happened in some capacity but vastly exaggerated and distorted; so a lot of characters and events still carried over but not exactly how we saw them (the way we played them was just in their exaggerated form)
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>>340545662
Pure autism.
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>>340545774
>hating fun
Pure autism.
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>>340545889
Overly elaborate headcanon has nothing to do with fun.
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>>340528515
Wasn't he a dirty Jew? He deserved everything.
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>>340545662
Good excuse for Lazlow & Love fist to exist in both worlds.
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>>340546026
>3D era games were retconned into urban myths instead of just deleted outright
>Overly elaborate

>Calling other people autistic
Summers starting, isnt it.
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>>340528515

I don't get why The Lost are even in V beyond just being generic fodder for the protags to shred through. At the end of TLAD, the gang doesn't exist anymore because everyone in it died sans Johnny and his friends.
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>>340546404
The Lost exist all over the world. it's just the Liberty City chapter that end up being fucked.
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>>340545389
Well, similar thing happens in online and Trevor there just creeped out a bit cause people are scared of him usually.
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>>340546026
rockstar literally said pre-gta iv characters were "mythical characters from a bygone era" in the gta iv and v canon, dipshit
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>>340546249
>summer
I shitpost year round. : ^ )
>>340546574
You know, taking words extremely literally without taking into account context and metaphor is a symptom of a certain disorder.
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>>340547035
>if it doesn't coincide with my line of thinking/makes me look wrong, then you're just taking it wrong, and also i'm going to keep calling you autistic until you stop disagreeing with me!

>the move to HD created a schism in this fictional universe, rendering CJ, Tony and co, as mythical characters from a bygone era
you're right, this is absolutely loaded with metaphor. what a fool i was! they were just being ironic is all!
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>>340547551
You're overthinking it: they're myths because they never happened and myths are things that never happened.
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post Trevors
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>>340546558
The Angels Of Death still would've made more sense to be in San Andreas.
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>>340528515

When you're sneaking through the Lost trailer park area to plant bombs and have the silenced pistol you overhear other Lost members talking about how the meth consumed that chapter and Johnny.

They weren't really Lost members anymore, just junkies.
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