What's the fucking difference?
>genious
You're a fucking retard
>>340508203
>genious
>REEEEEEEEEE
Sounds about right.
>>340508203
>cult classic
Which generally means it was hated when it came out and is only appreciated well after the fact. So maybe in a decade this shit will be a classic too.
one is inaccurate in the 90's
the other is just as inaccurate as the 90's one but came out 20 years later
Come on son!
On a related note,
>I AM LE HACKER
Probably the most cringe inducing shit in Jurassic Park.
>cult classic even though its shot
You can't explain it, that is why you use the term "cult"
>>340509215
So you hate that hacker crap?
>>340509215
>not the fucking ending where they face impossible odds and the fucking t-rex busts out of nowhere to save the day
>>340508203
they're both just as inaccurate but watch dogs was released in a time when people knew that hacking wasn't anything like watch dogs pretended it was.
also watch dogs takes itself way too fucking seriously, it could actually have been funny if it were MORE like hackers
>>340508203
>hackers
>cult classic
because is so bad that is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4ZJk4lLEI
angelina jolie's boobs
Hackers is endearing because of how ridiculous it is.
>2016
>People still use the term hacker/hacking incorrectly
JUST
>>340509781
Rip in peace.
>>340508203
Hackers is over the top nonsense.
Watch Dogs 2 will probably try to play it straight because they're not going to make their new black and muslim characters look like idiots.
>>340509450
Yes, Samuel.
>>340509461
I didn't really think too much of it. I guess it was kinda stupid, though.
>>340508203
Hackers is pure 90's goofiness.
Watch Dogs take itself seriously.
Also hackers isn't a ubisoft open world with shity collectables
>>340508203
HACK THE PLANET
>>340508203
Hackers was tongue-in-cheek.
Watchodgs 2, on the other hand, will take itself completely seriously, even though you'll be doing completely bizarre and stupid shit within the confines of a paper thin plot and a dull static city. Also the protag looks like a 16 year old rapper-wannabe from a middle-class family.
>>340508203
hackers had some real-life information put in it like the phone hack by razor&blade and the crayola books. Those were things that could be used by real-life hackers.
>comparing a 90s over-the-top comedy with a pandering video game showcased in 2016
>Black people
> in San Francisco
It's literally just White hipsters & Chinese
>shit movie
>everyone acknowledges it is a shit movie but enjoys it despite the flaws
>shit game
>10/10 everyone should buy 3 copies - IGN
>>340508558
>maybe in a decade
It will still be shit when we're in haptic feedback chairs getting BJs from our lusty argonian maid mods for ESO7. Games age like milk compared to movies. If it's not good on release (or by it's final patch as the case may be, or any time in between) it will never be good.
>>340512030
Why does Planescape Torment get so much praise then? It wasn't all that good on launch and the only thing to recommend it is the writing, yet you can find fanboys who will defend it as perfection.
>>340509215
THIS IS A UNIX SYSTEM
I -KNOW- THIS
>>340512257
typically the relationship between a four pair and a royal flush is even, you know, when you have a hand you use it sparingly cause you know the other three fucks are full of shit. but there's always that one lemon who has to act like he has no hand and cheats at the end of the game.
>>340508203
You don't understand hackers is so bad it's good. Watch dogs is just mediocre
>>340512169
A) Writing is important in games, just like in movies, and you're right, it really has very little going for it except the writing.
B) Fanboys gonna fanboy, of course a die hard fan is gonna defend it to the last even if the last time they played it was last millenium.
>>340512416
>so bad it's good
Is that why retards love Nier so much?
>>340508203
usually if you play a game like Zelda your first inclination should be to find all the goods and progress without needing to hit up each dungeon in any specific order, but as of late, you have to go along a specified route in order to complete most zelda games, a design that was made popular by aonuma in the later years of the series, given that the content was so easily spread beyond top and bottom, it seemed like the right thing to do.
>>340508203
We didn't know better in 95.
>>340508203
>setting your game in San Francisco
>the most irrelevant city in the world
Why? Should have done London, considering all the Big Brother shit is actually real with CCTV everywhere.
>>340512737
Found the planescape fanboy. Let me guess, you've not actually played it, you're just going to regurgitate the same tired shit that /tg/ craps on about.
>>340512814
The largest number of hipsters and neo-intellectuals come from San Fran. It's also the largest congregation of homosexuals and transgenders, the target audience for this game.
This game is literally nothing but pandering, based on gender, location and demographic
>>340508203
because hacker that can shoot gun is borderline gary stu.
>>340508203
>Oversized shirt
>Skin tight jeans sagged
>un-tied boots that
>random badges and accessories everywhere
Fucking hate today's style of clothing.
>>340513010
that "fashion" has been around since late 90s
>>340508203
The difference is that people are still making fun of hackers, but in twenty years, nobody will even remember CashgrabDogs 2
>>340512814
>San Francisco
>irrelevant
Pick one. It's the tech capital of the workd, and it sports a massive finance sector. For a game about hacking I can't think of a more relevant city.
>>340512521
Mean words from a mean person >:(
>>340513183
Yep, there is no new fashion, only new people who don't realize they're caught in the cycle.
Well, not entirely true, but actual new stuff bleeding into the mainstream takes decades.
>>340513295
That's because nobody will be able to run it, considering OSes have 0 backwards compatibility after a few years.
>>340508937
Fuck, young Jolie was hot as fuck
>>340510562
This.
>>340508203
You know I'd be more inclined to be interested in this game if the devs weren't so fucking up themselves. I mean dev interviews are always cringey to watch because they spout a bunch of stock standard features like they were some sort of revolution in gameplay design, but WatchDogs takes that concept and runs with it. Like we've seen open worlds, contextual actions, stealth, and the misinformed overglorification of underground cultures before.
They're literally not doing anything new but acting like it's so revolutionary.
>>340513183
Why can't we go back to 1900's style where everything looked pristine and formal.
Hackers is a shitty movie though
>it's a "/v/ hates anything remotely popular because its new and reminisces over their childhood, the one time they weren't depressed" thread
>>340508203
I would actually really like goofy hacker game in the vein of Hackers movie. It can be really fucking good as long as they don't make it too serious and be creative about hacking shit.
Watch dogs on the other hand had less to do with actual hacking than something like uplink, or even hacknet.
>we want a city at the forefront of technology
Why not just set it in Seattle then as opposed to ripping off GTAV?
>>340508203
If the game plays like ass it sucks, movie cant play like ass.
>>340513304
>the tech capital of the workd
Except the game map won't be near silicon valley at all. Not to mention that it's hardly the tech capital in the 21st century.
>and it sports a massive finance sector
m8
One of them's funny.
The other is made by Ubisoft.
>>340508203
>main character of hackers did nothing wrong
>crashed 1500 systems in a single day and was restricted from using computers until he was an adult, then immediately after becoming an adult he starts hacking again
>>340508203
>Cult classic
Because it's bad enough to be enjoyable
Watch Dogs was shit. But not in an endearing way.
>>340513689
Seattlite here
No more shitty games please
Second Son was enough
I'll settle for Deadly Premonition and pretend there's nothing else set in Washington
>completely inaccurate about hacking in 1995
>okay fair enough
>completely inaccurate about hacking in 2016
>embarrassing
You really don't see the point here?
The image of a hacker hasn't changed to these people.
It is a joke nowadays and they play it straight.
People who watch hackers today would also laugh at it.
>>340513667
>It's an "I'm going to pretend I like this game just so I can piss off nerds on a Mongolian cartoon watching forum" thread
>>340513870
Post it with sound.
>>340508203
Hackers is fucking rad, the movie is a literal meme generator, it's hilarious and has a fucking awesome sound track by orbital?
![mr-robot[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CRMoiqs.jpg "mr-robot[1].jpg")
What did /v/ think of Mr.Robot?
Seems to portray hacking fairly well, much better than just about every other media has (though this is like saying a video game movie is better than others).
>>340508203
One is so terrible you can't help but laugh at how bad it is.
The other is a movie from the 90's.
>>340514180
It was good, shows people that your account usually gets "hacked" by people guessing your awful hobby+dob password.
>>340514180
The best hacking portrayal was, ironically enough, in Matrix 2.
>>340514180
Fairly enjoyable, good suspense, really showed some of them for the utter psychopaths that they are.
>Hackers is so bad it's good.
No it's not, it's legitimately just a really fucking fun, over the top movie that doesn't take itself seriously.
There's nothing really bad about it and the cheese is all clearly played for laughs.
>>340514330
>tfw passwords usually have nothing to do with anything I am, just random words, numbers and sometimes characters I like
Does that make me slightly less "hackable"?
>>340508203
One doesnt star a black guy in an attempt to be socially concious, also one is written and made by the hacks at ubisoft who havent made a good game in years, can you guess which one?
>>340513698
Are you retarded? I love how 4chan's hatred for LGBT people makes them blind to facts that even they themselves present.
SF is a major finance center for the world, and it is the tech capital for the world. Sorry if your no-name suburb in your fly-over state doesnt get any attention from video games anon.
>>340512814
>London
>the only deadly weapon in the game will be a butterknife
>>340514180
I enjoyed it. But they overplayed the importance of the twist, it was incredibly obvious and made the season finale reveal feel kind of hollow.
>>340514687
Watch Dogs would have been better with restricted weapons and not have the protag run around with a grenade launcher and automatic rifle. "I could use my hacking skills to lead people into deadly traps, lure patrols away and be covert, but fuck that noise time to lob grenades, it's quicker."
>>340514517
The most secure password you can have it a completely random string of characters. You can easily find a website that spits them out for you. Use a different one for any website that can be used to fuck you (anything with credit cards, paypal or whatever saved on them). Then write them down on a piece of paper beside your computer. There's no hacking that can get that note.
>>340514687
>Your bicycle wheel skill levelled up
>>340514948
>There's no hacking that can get that note.
If I break into your house, read the note, then leave without you realising an intrusion has happened, then I break into your computer, it's a hack, just a very low grade one.
if they're so similar then you just answered your own question. Hackers already filled that niche so Watch Dogs has no role to fill.
I love how they're embracing hacker culture in this game. I hope every second mission is a Dominos run and one of the main antagonists is one of the guys in your five person sharehouse who refuses to flush the toilet. You'll have to fight him while manoeuvring through stacks of old floppy disk drives and half built PCs that you're TOTALLY going to get around to actually using one day for your super awesome unix server that you're planning on building.
>>340515114
>low grade
Low tech is what I meant.
>>340514948
I ussually use a phrase that I will remember, write it in leet, put numbers where spaces would be and capitalize either the first or last letter of every word.
>>340515114
The kind of people that break into random homes and the kind of people that call themselves hackers do not overlap very often.
>>340515364
The kind of people that kill people and the kind of people that call themselves hackers do not overlap very often.
>>340515364
Because the people who call themselves hackers are scriptkiddies most of the time.
>>340515114
That's not hacking, and pairing a random string to a single account is hard. Also, if someone is breaking into you home you have a bigger problem than just digital security.
See the logic now, stupid?
>>340515114
That requires you to physically come to my house, which isn't worth the effort if you're trying to gain access to my accounts. You're better off trying to gain access to the billions of other accounts with shitty passwords.. Writing a note of un-guessable passwords stops anyone with an internet connection from gaining access to my stuff.
>>340514948
Pretty much >>340515114 this, also pick very related. The best way to to hack something is using bruteforce with heavy blunt objects.
>>340508203
There was a black kid in that movie?
>>340515621
I'm not remembering the multiple passwords, which is the whole reason to write it down.
>>340515534
>That's not hacking
It's social engineering to get access to a secured system. You need to stop thinking hackers are all programmers, when the more successful ones are often just confidence grifters who bullshit their way into systems.
>>340515538
And what if I don't want the other systems? What if I want yours because of some petty reason?
>which isn't worth the effort
You can't tell me what is and isn't a productive use of my time. What if I like rubbing my balls up and down some random /v/ posters keyboard while pretending I'm a l337 hax0r?
How do I become a genious?
>>340515621
It's like how people say bio authentication isn't really that secure. Someone who really wanted access to your stuff could kill you and take whatever it is they need to gain access.
The people who want access usually aren't taking the risk of whacking other's limbs off unless they are terrorists. It's secure, but not NATIONAL SECURITY secure.
>>340515953
Start inserting the letter o into random words and claim that it's your culture.
>>340515953
The first step is correct spelling.
>>340512257
>>340509215
LEX
BOOT UP THE DOOR LOCKS
THE DOOR LOCKS
LEX
>>340515850
Nah bro it's not hacking. It's thuggery. Jamal doesn't get to say WE WUZ HACKERS.
>>340514180
It was nice to finally watch a tv show that got it and used real world tech to show what hacking is about.
The best episodes were the steel mountain infiltration and prison hack. Those really felt along the lines of a good stealth/hub oriented game.
>>340516083
Potato, potatoe.
>>340516119
>steel mountain infiltration
Poor Bill.
>>340516178
Genius, genious
>>340516259
>>340512169
Torment had only visuals and writing as his weapons.
The combat was, is and will remain bad.
Still, at the time, most people couldn't imagine a turn based combat on the same engine without using D&D as a base to give informations.
And also because Planescape is based from a scenario book for D&D, they coulnd't change even if they wanted
Only a few other games did it much later but they still take inspiration from it (like Kotor).
The only western rpg with unique turn based combat in the last is probably Divine Original Sin.
I'm saying it as a Torment fan, i can't ignore the issues even if i wanted.
>>340513615
>Why can't we go back to 1900's style where everything looked pristine and formal.
Also every man was wearing a suit and a hat which was kinda cool.
Nowadays hats became things for hipsters and memes, its kinda sad.
My grandpa still has shitloads of hats.
>>340508203
why does he need a gun? hackers dont need guns.
>>340508203
>Tries to appeal to 12 year old kids who like video games and cartoons and will find it cool
>Tries to appeal to 22 year old dudebros who like binge drinking, smoking weed, breaking the law and will tolerate it because it has guns
>>340508203
i thought it was shit back when it was released
and i thought the same now
the difference is that now i laugh about it from how wrong it was
also, people praise it because of the attires used
>>340516502
ahmed plz go
>>340516483
This, if you can bruteforce into a human brain with a TI 84 calculator then you're not a real hacker.
>>340516483
it's a 3d printed gun, you can't go nerdier and hackier than that
>>340508203
More often than not "cult classics" are shit movies that a hand full of aspies nearly build religions over. A movie being a cult classic should have no merit to it's worth or quality.
That said, I wouldn't doubt that there is a forum somewhere in some backwater part of the internet where some gross neckbeards have made the Barbie Horse video games into their own "Cult Classics".
ITT: OP defends a game for 10 year olds.
Also, pic related. It's OP at his house right now.
>>340516579
>3d printers
another fad ruined by shitty hipsters
>>340516657
So you think spaceballs is shitty I assume.
Or young frankenstein.
Or the rocky horror picture show.
Or Blazing saddles.
Don't get me wrong, watch dogs is shit.
But you're calling a lot of movies that aren't shit, shit.
I never understodd why people were freaking out about "omg untraceable 3d guns NOOO someone think of the children"
For the price of a good 3d printer I'm sure you could buy the tools to make a normal metal gun which won't be completely useless after one shot.
>>340508203
I've never seen HAckers but I can look at the cover and tell it's 90's RAD in a time hacking was still a novel idea and the world wasn't GrimDark and sensitive.
Watch Dogs is just generic overdone fight the power bullshit what we've been experiencing for the past decade.
Also Ubisoft.
HACK THE PLANET!
>>340516579
How the hell do you manage to 3D print a full semi-automatic pistol that doesn't even break down after one shots?
Where are you getting the springs?
>>340516906
Also Hackers has a rare shot of Angelina Jolee's tits.
>>340516994
You 3d print the springs!
>>340516201
>tfw this was the moment Elliot was actually talking to you
That was the hardest feel of the series.
>>340516994
>3d printed barrel
I'll bet that will end great.
Why does he have that stupid ball thing?
One of the few things I like about the first was that he used a baton. Batons are under-represented in games, I guess because they're boring, sensible weapons.
>>340516832
I actually like Spaceballs. The Rocky Horror Picture Show is garbage though. Ill never understand the appeal. Never heard of the other two.
>you're calling a lot of movies that aren't shit, shit.
Opinions bro. Live and let live.
It's a funny topic though huh? How can one determine if something is shit or not? How does your own opinion differ from others? Why should your opinion mater? Why should or shouldn't mine? Why do I bother defending my opinion? Why do other also feel so compelled to defend their own opinions?
>>340508203
I am 110% sure there will be at least one scene as dumb as these in the game:
http://youtu.be/u8qgehH3kEQ
http://youtu.be/u2ZYVt8tmPc
Probably many, though.
>>340517368
I like Rocky Horror over Spaceballs myself, Mel Brooks did better on Blazing Saddles, and while the plot and stuff is wack on Rocky Horror, the music is on point, and thats what people attach to, coupled with its racey themes for the time
>>340517391
What the fuck were they thinking in that first one? Everytime I see it it's so fucking cringey what the fuck. There's no way they could have thought people would actually suspend their disbelief that much.
>>340517391
>implying the whole game and the last game wasnt just this cringy shit
>>340508203
https://youtu.be/A2ghcYF_R-0
>hackers in any media
Free long distance. Forever.
>>340508203
Why was it so popular in the 90s to take a top-down shot of a group with them all huddled together and looking up at the camera? Why were the 90s so bizarre? How did Power Rangers actually make it to the west?
>>340514687
>hack enemy bank account delaying payment of tv license resulting in your enemy going to prison for 5 years
>>340509215
The books were worse. Especially Lost World.
I'm talking a fucking 8 year old black boy genius master hacker. I couldn't even finish it.
>>340517368
>never heard of blazing saddles or young Frankenstein
Your opinion should rightfully be discarded, you are woefully ignorant. I'm not saying this as an insult, I am informing you of a fact.
See these movies at your earliest opportunity:
Blazing Saddles
Young Frankenstein
Airplane!
Top Secret!
Hot Shots! (best seen immediately after Top Gun)
Kentucky Fried Movie
The Blues Brothers
>>340517391
That's all the game will be.
>>340517865
>>340517391
This. Except it'll be some faggot smearing his thumb over a phone screen opposed to randomly mashing a keyboard.
>>340517728
You could actually do that though. Not forever, but with the right tones you could access long distance without paying. If I remember right, a kazoo toy in a cereal box played the tones needed perfectly.
>>340517854
not him, but I havent seen
Young Frankenstein
Top Secret
Hot Shots
or The Blues Brothers
Someone should redub the Karate section of Kentucky Fried Movie and just put in Kung Pow
>>340517368
>The Rocky Horror Picture Show is garbage though
Opinion discared
>>340517781
>hack enemy Facebook
>write "I hate niggers" on it
>they are given life in prison
Hackers didn't have memes
>>340518135
Stream it. I haven't watched it in months.
>>340518354
Is that actually in the trailer?
>>340518414
I dont have the upload speed to stream. If I did id probably be streaming VR porn out to hitbox or something
>>340517391
OKAY I'M GONNA NEED A LOT OF CLOSE UPS OF TYPING AND COMPUTER POP UPS IN FAST MOTION. EDIT THEM AS CLOSE TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE IN A RANDOM SEQUENCE. KEEP ON ZOOMING IN.
>>340518642
yes, and this was in a some promo pic
meme games for the meme generation
>>340519027
Jesus Christ
>>340519027
The guy that made the trollface is pretty quick to hand out suits though. They either paid him, or are taking the risk and banking on their lawyers to sort it out if he calls
>>340519601
>The guy that made the trollface
Just shut the fuck up.
>>340519027
I unironically want the 10s to be known as the meme generation.
>>340520395
So that we'll have an undeniable way of saying this decade was a mistake?
