What are your top 3 favorite home consoles, anon?
>>340494339
SNES
PS2 andWiiU with vWii hacked and Loadiine to play Wii, GC and WiiU backups
>>340494339
SNES
GC
PS2I've never seen sailor moon. Where do I start?Is there any filler I should avoid?
N64
PS2
NES
Sega Genesis
PS2
Dreamcast
Is Sailor Moon making a comeback?
I remember telling my mom I was gonna marry Sailor Mercury when I was like 12 years old
ps1
dc
xbox
>>340494339
PS2
Hacked Wii
360 I guess
Xbox
PlatstationPersonal computer
>>340494339
SNES
N64
I don't have a third.
>>340494768
Start at the beginning, I like the English dub for nostalgia but it's really bad to be honest.
They redubbed it recently and it's a lot better. They started a new series recently but I don't like it much
SNES
NES
PS1
Ps2
Xbox360
Ps4
Ps4 would have been higher if sony rememberd how to have fun
WHERE ARE THE FUN GAMES. THE HACK AND SLASHERS, THE NONSENSICAL SHIT. IS HAVING FUN NOT ALLOWED IS 2016
>>340494339
Wii
Dreamcast
PS2
I like the PS1 library more than the PS2's but you have the backwards compatibility anyway. You get that with the Wii too for Gamecube AND it's a wonderful emulation box for basically all the 2d consoles you want that you an even play on a CRT.
Dreamcast has the whole playing burnt CDs thing so it is easy and cheap to try out games for it I haven't played yet.
>>340495940
Play the new Doom game bruh
N64, SNES, and GC
>>340494339
PS2
PS3
Super Nintendo
>>340496060
Oh i'm playing the game it's pretty fun.
>>340494768
You're not even wrong, >>340495514 , but I dont' think that's really what they were asking. And what they might really want is something like this, basically a guide that tells you all the filler you an skip or maybe suggest some of the filler that's actually GOOD.
http://anitay.kinja.com/a-filler-reduced-viewing-guide-to-sailor-moon-season-1-1736085336
The TL;DR version of that page is this for Season 1.
The bare minimum “required” episodes:
1, 8, 10, 13, 25, 32-36, 44-46.
Total of 13 out of 46 episodes.
Required + all potential recommended episodes:
1, 3, 8-11, 13-14, 19, 21-27, 31-36, 42-46.
Total of 27 out of 46 episodes.
>>340496463
Is this a thing now? Skipping huge swaps of the series of shows? Fuck that man. Just get some beers and watch it out
>>340494339
PS2
PS1
SNES
>>340494339
why do people dickride the ps2?
colecovision has the best arcade games of all time
>>340496523
There's no need to waste 8-10 hours on junk filler.
>>340494339
MegaDrive
PS2
360
>>340496653
Did a ps2 murder your parents?
>>340494339
PS2
N64
Wii
>>340495940
>WHERE ARE THE FUN GAMES. THE HACK AND SLASHERS, THE NONSENSICAL SHIT
you and I have a different definition of fun. hacking and slashing shit isn't fun.
>>340496717
>Filler
I dunno, sure they got episodes that don't advanced the plot but they are normally the most fun ones.
>>340496653
would you rather have 100 7/10 games or 10 9/10 games
and implying the ps2 didnt have 10/10s is fucking retarded
also game journalism was super different even that recently
>>340496794
Just pointing out the college kids until we get mandatory driver's license checks on this site.
>>340496653
>>340496975
What makes drakengard better than burger time?
1.steambox
2.ps2
3.dream cast
SNES
PS2
and the Dreamcast. I loved my fucking dreamcast.
>>340497115
>>340496904
>>340496810
>>340496794
>>340496739
>>340496585
>>340496196
>>340495967
>>340495940
>>340495305
>>340494895
>>340494831
>>340494768
What did the ps2 have?
I genuinely want to know if it has any game better than Evolution, Jungle Hunt, or Mountain King
PS1
PS2
SNES
Wasn't the PS2 the best selling counsel for over ten years after it's creation?Fuck me in the ass for not buying the white one
>What did the ps2 have?
Are you for real right now?
ITT: sonyggers
>>340497320
What did the PS2 NOT have?
>>340497320
Are you talking PS2 games only? Because that system was backwards compatible.
>>340497412
It doesn't have a single thing that would make it the best console of all time. Not even in the top 5 simply because it's filled with movie games
>>340497449
PS2 was a solid system with a shit load of games for it.
>>340497529
Backwards compatability means nothing either. PS1 was garbage.
Do any of you play games? Because I'm baffled how anyone who thinks they're truly invested in games can think consoles filled movie games are the best of all time.
>>340497531
>Not even in the top 5 simply because it's filled with movie games
>movie games
The fuck are you even talking about?
>>340497320
If you liked fighting games it was king. Huge variety of RPGs and action games, lots of racing games, Metal Gear, quirky shit like god hand and katamari, some fantastic wrestling games, platformers, it pretty much had everything.
>>340496523
Not really. I don't see a lot of lists or things like this. However, I think it makes a lot of sense. Sailor Moon as an anime is over 200+ episodes. Huge time investment for something considered essential, a classic. Not everyone is a hikkimori and can spend all day watching those Singaporean flip books. And because it has the monster of the week formula, a lot of it really is skippable, especially if you care more about the over all plot of the show.
Like, seriously, like watching every fucking bit isn't some kind of special accomplishment. There's no trophey. It doesn't put hair on your chest of make your dick bigger. All that matters is that the time felt worth: that you enjoyed it or got something meaningful out of it.
>>340496878
That's probably why the "recommended" filler episodes basically doubled the amount of episodes to watch.
>>340497320
Excellent first party support and a fucking massive third party library. The only real advantages the Xbox hueg had over it was internal memory and late in life online capabilities.
>>340497449
>most posts are a combination of Nintendo or Sony consoles
>Sonyggers
Stop projecting, anon. It's hard to argue that in retrospect, the PS2 and SNES are some of the best consoles in the medium.
>>340497531
>Movie games
You're thinking of the PS3.
>>340497587
like what?
you're not listing anything.
no matter how much shit you list, it doesn't have anything that tops the best games of all time on the Colecovision
Guys do not respond to this guy, he's a really REALLY shitty and obvious troll.
>>340497320
>>340497320
Oh lordy it would take me ages to list every amazing game on the system but just off the top of my head:
Silent Hill 2
Metal Gear Solid 2
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
The Timesplitters series
God of War 1 and 2
Final Fantasy X
Burnout 3
Persona 3
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2
Mortal Kombat Deception
And a boat load of other games on my shelf I haven't written here. The ps2 library is truly unparalleled.
>>340497638
>consoles filled movie games
Is this some kind of shitty meme your trying to start for just you just don't like?
>>340497782
To be fair, >>340497320 could just be much younger and not remember gaming fifteen years ago.
>>340494339
SNES
PS2
N64
>>340497843
No he's a fucking idiot. He keeps calling all PS2 games "Movie games."
>>340497474
>>340497529
>>340497678
>>340497698
>>340497819
>>340497843
STOP FEEDING IT YOU RETARDS
HE WANTS YOUR (YOU)s
> could just be much younger and not remember gaming fifteen years ago
then fucker shouldn't be here and should lurk moar
>>340497819
>movie games
all of those games are focused on finishing a narrative and littered with cutscenes
colecovision has zaxxon, beamrider, mountain king, donkey kong, miner 2049er, mouse trap, omega race, pepper ii, qbert, river raid
the best games of all time
OP why does Tuxedo Mask throws a rose, does a little talking then leaves after giving Sailer Moon pep talk? I don't get it. Isn't he skilled at kicking monster ass while she isn't?
>>340497757
>arcade quality
Oh I'm laughin.
>>340498008
She wouldn't learn to be a hero herself if Tuxedo Mask did everything for her.
>>340497843
He's posted repeatedly and keeps stacking it up to the colecovision.
It's a troll.
>>340497987
>pepper ii
I know this is just bait, but you could have at least said Burger Time.
>>340497986
I'm 32, and I'm pointing out that all these "game" consoles you people are listing aren't even that and could in no way be considered best of all time.
>>340494339
Genesis
PS2
GameBoyoriginal
>>340497987
>all of those games are focused on finishing a narrative and littered with cutscenes
>burnout 3
apply yourself
>>340494768
You don't. Unless you're gay or a 7yo girl.
>>340498145
Genesis has quite a few games
But ps2 doesn't. And surely none that would warrant it being called the best console of all time.
Gamecube
Original xbox
Dreamcast
>>340498096
>taking images from atari sales forums
Step it up.
>>340494339
xbox
xbox 360
xbox one
>>340498157
One game doesn't make a console the best of all time.
For a console to be the best of all time, it should be a game console first and emphasize that.
>>340497686
>Sailor Moon
>essential
Kill yourself America
i want to marry usagi
PS2
NES
tie between SNES and Genesis
>>340494339
N64
Gamecube
PS2
>>340498240
I post on Atari Age.
>>340498337
Get in line.
>>340498374
If its such a great system, why did you sell it 5 years ago?
>not recommending Tenchi's literal harem
why even bother
>>340498326
I love me some sailor moon but the moment he called it a classic and essential he lost me completely.
SNES
N64
PS1
>>340494339
PC Engine (counting CD-ROM2)
Sega Saturn (mostly for the imports)
PS3
>>340494949
There was a new anime series that started in Japan last year. I think it's still going on.
>>340498452
I own a game shop.
>>340498514
None of those are games
>>340498467
Ryoko a best.
>>340498563
we all know you just took the picture you found on google images. just leave now and save yourself further embarrassment
>>340498637
Worst sanic looking cunt.
>>340498692
I don't have anything to prove.
What I do have to say is that none of these consoles being mentioned are game consoles, at least foremost.
>>340494339
PS2
Genesis
SNES
>>340495940
They're on PC and mobile now. They're indie games. Like, I know you don't want to hear that because this is /v/ but the situation with the PS2 was that it was the cheapest and easiest thing to develop for. Smaller devs could make games for it, leading to the the fun, weird, nonsensical shit because the suits weren't telling them what to do. Meanwhile, development costs for console games just sore higher and higher with each new console gen. Everything is riskier and in the hands of bigger and duller companies who want to play things safe and thus AAA will make boring pieces of shit.
>>340494339
wii
ps3
Wii u
>>340498628
None of what? The titles on the pic. They're all animu-based games, except for Popful Mail and those Neo-Geo ports advertised below.
Gamecube and 360. I can't list a third because I didn't like any other to date nearly as much.
![washu_comp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hCRJ9f5.jpg "washu_comp[1].jpg")
>>340498467
>tfw you'll never get to play sick games on Washu's invisible supercomputer
>>340498806
>none of these consoles being mentioned are game consoles
Like 13 people listed the NES. You aren't very good at this. You've got all summer to get better at shitposting though, you'll get there champ.
>>340498887
The PC Engine DUO controller is so tight
>>340498887
Most of these are centered around completion of a narrative.
They're not games. Games are meant to be replayable to attain higher scores and become better.
If you want a narrative, go read a book.
>>340498096
It's "top 3 favourite", you vapid cunt.
This will be my final (you)
>>340498216
reminder this person is baiting for (you)s do not feed him
SNES
PS2
PS3
I think the SNES and the PS2 have a wider selection of good games than the PS3, but the PS3 has some of my all time favourite games like Demon's Souls and El Shaddai.
>>340498887
Only games that I like are actually games. Those are movies, comic books, and infomercials.
Also, I don't like the PC Engine, so it is not a console. It is a dishwasher.
>One faggot bitching about PS2 game being movies game just because they have cutscenes. Takes pictures from google and pretends to be an old fag.
Please go back to whatever fuckhole you crawled out of.
Xbox
Dreamcast
SNES
>>340498998
And with the introduction of the nes, nintendo brought the introduction of narrative into games.
Nintendo didn't "save" gaming. They ruined it.
Instead of inventing new gameplay mechanics to improve oneself in an endlessly replayable fashion, games began to have endings and text for story.
If you want story, read a book.
Mega Drive, PS1 and recently Saturn
I've never had PC Engine and want to get Duo soon though.
>>340496463
>1, 3, 8-11, 13-14, 19, 21-27, 31-36, 42-46.
That list is complete garbage then. It dons't even recommend episode 6, which is the best episode in the section it's in, but instead just recommends random episodes that happen to introduce a new toy.
I do believe that certain episodes (like episode 7) should be skipped, as doing so helps the show flow better, but I can't get behind that list at all.
>>340499271
I know it's counter to your point, but the unskippable cutscenes in Way of the Samurai made me fucking furious.
>>340496717
that junk filler fleshes out the character personalities and even then, they are mostly funny.
unlike the new series that tries to follow the manga and is boring because of it.
PS2
SNES
Wii U
Gamecube
Dreamcast
ps1
>>340498326
>>340498487
Are you guys seriously arguing that, not only is Sailor Moon not one of the greatest anime, but that considering it important is somehow an American thing?
>>340499326
Isn't Pacman, one of your precious arcade games, the first game to have cutscenes and narrative?
>>340494339
>gamecube
>Ps2
>SNES
>>340498326
>America
What? Sailor Moon wasn't only popular in the US.
>>340499492
I say the same thing about Akira and Cowboy Bebop but man people like to think they are essential. I mean they are good but come one
>>340499271
I'm just pointing out the horrible tastes of everyone itt. Because of many of you, there are barely any triple a games being made today for my kind. Nothing but narrative and cutscenes. Nothing endlessly replayable. There's the new Gran Turismo and Forza 6 though.
>>340499081
>>340499242
You guys are just jelly EOPs who are mad that most of the PC Engine library are inaccessible due to your inability to overcome language barriers.
>>340499493
Pacman has no end. Therefore, it has no narrative.
>>340499326
Baron von Havoc pls go
>>340499580
At this point, I'd just like to see what you actually consider essential.
>>340499582
Go play a fucking phone game
>>340499712
I want triple a games.
And I am older. If any one should play phone games, it should be anyone ITT.
This whole thread
To the kid who stole a picture from google so he can pretend to be all grown up, kill yourself
To anyone not from America in the 90s, I really can't overstate how insanely popular Sailor Moon was here.
>>340499580
I have no idea why you are specifically bringing those up? Akira and Cowboy Bebop, along with Ninja Scroll and all that, are more popular in America than elsewhere, but this doesn't apply to Sailor Moon at all. If anything, it's less well regarded in America than it is in most places.
Sega Genesis
PS2
Dreamcast
>>340494895
holy shit
>>340499649
>implying there's a language barrier for a platformer
>playing a shitty console port of Ghouls n Ghosts
>>340499580
Akira IS essential. Why do you think its so iconic? Theres so much effort and money put into the animation.
>>340499326
Blackjack-kun, is that you?
>>340499582
How is that the fault of the PS2 gen exactly? cutscenes weren't necessary for the games's narrative like they are today, it merely added to it like icing on a cake.
>>340499835
>To anyone not from America in the 90s
What the fuck does America have to do with it? I don't get this.
>>340499835
Sailor Moon was popular pretty much everywhere, same with Cardcaptors and Gundam.
>>340494339
Gamecube
360
PS2
>>340499835
I'm not pretending. I'm 32 and grew up with a handmedown Intellivision. Eventually saved up enough money for a Colecovision with my paper route. Best console I ever owned. Many arcade classics that I was able to then play endlessly. But everything went to shit with Nintendo. Sega to a lesser extent. They still often catered to what I wanted but never as innovative or groundbreaking as the likes of the Arcade games Atari made like Joust, Asteroids, and the unique innovative gameplay-focused Intellivision games such as Utopia.
>>340500054
I meant your bitching about JRPGs not being real games, you EOP dimwit.
Also, SGX Ghouls 'n Ghosts was better than the Genesis version.
Popularity of 3D for the sake of being 3D is the worst thing that happened with video games.
>>340494339
PS2 (plays PS1)
PS3
PS4
>>340499657
technically pacman does have an end.
it can only play up to level 255, and then it corrupts.
>>340500249
I don't know, people were trying to stress that Sailor Moon was of some importance to America and everyone else seemed confused as to why. I was just throwing in to agree that it was incredibly popular, which not a large amount of anime airing in America in the same time period can say.
>>340500350
Jrpg's aren't games. He is correct. They're interactive narratives.
>>340500368
That's what I thought too until microtransactions happened.
Mercury is best waifuYa'll niggas step off my waifu
>>340500432
No narrative
Just like Robotron. Nothing but pure craftsmanship and innovative gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVA2Axxfdk
>>340500538
She's definitely the best looking.
>>340500538
Dibs on Jupiter
>>340500462
JRPGs might have needlessly heavy narratives, but to say they aren't mostly gameplay focused is nonsense. It's the whole reason the genre died in the last seven or eight years.
>>340500648
By having a narrative, they are narrative-focused.
Cloak and Dagger has no narrative. You play it and get better at it. Nothing more.
snes
gamecube
wii u with hacked vwii and loadiine
>>340500000
>>340494339
Xbox
Dreamcast
Snes
Never had one of those though. I had instead
Sega Mega drive
N64
PS1-4
meh
And Commodore 64 if it counts
>>340500350
You seem like you know something about platform.
What's the recommended price for PC Engine Duo now? I'm stalking YJA but can't find any sub-10k yen Duos (body only), and complete boxes are in 30-40k yen tier usually.
I'm going to recap, RGB mod and replace laser myself.
>>340494339
Playstation 2
Playstation
NES
>>340500621
That's fine you can have thatnice girl and I hope you have a wonderful future together
>>340500604
You know it.Is Crystal still bad?
>>340500453
>>340500249
I think the relevance it had was, Sailor Moon was one of the first super hero anime shows to be capitalized in America.
Initially, it was non-anime super hero shows that were really popular, eg. Power Rangers.
Then Funimation/DiC caught on to this and brought Sailor Moon and DBZ over to America, two of the first super hero ones to really succeed.
There were of course other popular anime shows in America, but they were primarily not super hero ones. This is the difference I think, and the significance, as it was one of the first.
>>340500462
Oh my, it is you.
I feel like I should warn the thread.
There's a wondrously autistic man in his thirties who stalks the catalog for any mention of the PS2. His mantra includes the fact that a game with a story is not a game but an interactive narrative, and that games should be structured on and endless cycle of self-improvement, like Blackjack. As with anyone on the spectrum, his phrasing is incredibly repetitive. He cannot be reasoned with. He will simply keep restating his opinion until you go away. Do not entertain his posts as I am doing now.
>>340500789
And just what the hell is so horrible about having a narrative? Not every game has to be skill based.
>>340500909
Crystal was always bad man.
>>340500621
I fucked your waifu bro.
>>340501097
I will fight you
>>340501097
I want Toei to do just one thing right
Just once
>>340500976
If it's not skill-based, it stops being a game
A game is like blackjack, baseball, or solitaire.
You play it and get better at it, but there is no story. you don't need the story and you don't want the story. you just want to get better. that should be the focus.
>>340500935
But there's nothing exclusive about its popularity in America. It's well known and watched in plenty of other countries. It might have been more responsible for accelerating anime's growth in America, given it wasn't as popular beforehand in comparison, but it was only brought over to America after it was already a big thing overseas.
>>340500538
i like venus but shit does she have problems
>>340501363
>>340501371
If you're going to discuss anime
>>>/a/
This is not /b/ with a flavor of video games. Now fuck off.
>>340500837
Depends on the model. 30-40k yen tier seems like a pretty fair price for a boxed console, considering I've seen them go for that prince unboxed. I'm assuming you're looking for the original Duo, right. Or will any model do?
>>340501461
you're gonna have to reply to a lot more than just two posts.
>>340500462
>genre that's notorious for it's gameplay grind and focusing on ability management
>interactive narrative
What was it like being born after 9/11?
>>340501461
Fine then. This was the best JRPG on the SNES.
>>340501283
Go to bed, Miyamoto. You're an out-of-touch hasbeen who is ruining Nintendo.
>>340501548
Born in '83 but thanks for the derisive comment.
I'm just saying if you want to discuss interactive narratives, you can take this to >>>/tv/ or >>>/a/
>that sailor moon fighting game
that was some serious fatal fury shit
>>340501465
Duo or Duo-R
I usually use Suruga-ya (also for price checks) or YJA for my import purchases
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=20018&search_word=&restrict[]=hardsoft=本体
And prices for Duo are somewhat high.
>I'm assuming you're looking for the original Duo
Yes, I'm afraid Duo-R will have some yellowing, and I'd like to avoid it.
I know there is ebay seller selling modded Duo-R consoles for ~400 USD and with these prices for non-modded hardware, his price seems somewhat fair.
>>340501595
I remember that game being super hard.
>>340501667
Grinding is a massive part of any JRPG. Assuming you're thinking of traditional, turn based, walked four feet and have a random encounter style games. Are you just retarded that you think you aren't spending the bulk of your time in a battle screen when you play a JRPG? Any JRPG could have ten or fifteen hours of prerendered cutscenes and those will still be out shadowed by how much time you spend actually playing the game to beat endgame bosses or hidden bosses.
>>340501097
Crystal did only one thing right and that was put more emphasis on Pluto and Saturn story lines and character.
>>340501283
All the real time battle RPG's are skill-based, just not as much as you seem to like. It's only turn base that's not and those are still tactics based and strategy based. Unless those aren't part of real games either.
>>340501943
The point of playing a jrpg is to finish the narrative.
That is what is intended by the developers.
Once you implement that crucial element, "narrative", a game it no loner is.
You can go read a book.
Like at time of release?
>SNES
>PS2
>Gameboy Advance
Most useful?
>PSP
>PS3
>Gameboy Advance
PS1
PS2
PS3
If handhelds count then replace PS1 with gameboy advance.
kek a lot of sonyggers in this thread
neofag really has taken over.
>>340502169
>Games can't be more then one thing because I say so
Holly shit dude your just being a fucking bitch at this point. All your arguments have been met and answered and you're still being a curmudgeony little asshole.
Just fuck off already.
>>340494339
>SNES
>Sega Saturn (As long as I get imported games with it.)
>PS2
NES
SNES
Either Genesis or Dreamcast for #3
>>340494768
Classic sailormoon is golden. Id watchem all if i were you. Crystal is complete trash.
>>340502675
It's not me. I'm just pointing out facts.
Video games are an extension of games. GAMEplay, scores, multiplayer, replay. GAMEplay.
Did I mention story? Why not? Because there is no story in Blackjack.
Here's an example of a video game console
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVA2Axxfdk
>>340494339
SNES
N64
PS2
>>340503042
>>340502675
wrong clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N8SBO6LMHw
>>340494339
NES
Mega Drive
Gameboy Color
if GBC doesn't count then I dunno probably the dreamcast.
>>340503042
>Games aren't allowed to be more then just simple skill based shit. Anything with the smallest amount of cinematic or narrative makes it movie shit.
Yeah, you're just a troll at this point.
>>340501786
The original Duo is better anyway, since it has a plug for headphone jacks.
>>340503510
Green text and derision is not a counterargument
>>340501894
Grinding barely counts as gameplay. It's not the same kind of 'difficulty' as any other game.
>>340503510
>Anything with the smallest amount of cinematic or narrative makes it movie shit.
It's not about whether a game has these things. It's what is the point of the game and what the developers intend you to do?
If they intend and design an interactive piece of software where you finish a narrative like a jrpg, then it is not a game. I don't understand how you lot can be so thickheaded.
>>340503042
Well then I guess Donkey Kong and Pac Man aren't games either. You really are autistic, huh,
Jupiter is best girl!
>>340501943
Hotaru was the best character in the original, hands down, and got more development then the entire cast. Complaining about her lack of screen time is an entirely other thing, which she is honestly better off for not having.
>>340494339
Genesis
PS2
Wii U
N64
PS2
PS3
>>340503849
>Grinding barely counts as gameplay
You're literally playing the game devoid of any sort of narrative you fucking retard.
>>340503971
I'm a different guy, but no, you're not really 'playing'. No skill is developed or challenge engaged in beyond a test of patience.
>>340503910
How the fuck does this even work?
>>340503864
Can they
>be endlessly replayed?
check
>do they have scores?
check
>is the focus of them for competition and self-improvement?
check
They are games.
You can't play for competition in jrpg's unless it involves speedrunning which can be said for any interactive piece of software like uncharted. And you and me both know uncharted is no fucking game.
>>340504123
You keep shifting those goalposts you'll end up on another continent.
>>340504124
Every Street Fighter has all those things and cutscenes as well. Is it a game, autism-san?
>>340504124
You can replay every game ever made as many times as you want. A ton of games with story also have a score system. You're an idiot.
1- PS1
The breakthrough to 3d from 2d roots was an amazing time. Pair that with amazingly unforgettable and unique characters with every game being so unique and satisfying and you have the formula to a golden era console.
2) SNES
Classics upon classics were made for this system. My first system.
3) NES
A mix of the simple era converting to a modern era. The best of both worlds.
Ps2 gets a pass but it was a time where videogames were becoming more cinematic. The games were still really good but not as good as the golden era. Still a great console.
>>340504234
Well that depends. What is the focus by the developer?
Does it match the criteria?
It's not that hard to understand. Is English your first language?
>>340504364
Here's something that will get the point across. Because it seems to be deceptive for those that have interactive pieces of software they personally like not be considered games.
We can all agree Uncharted is not a game, correct?
Ok, now let me break it down. Uncharted may have multiplayer, it may have scores, it may have replayability, but what is the focus of the game?
Is the focus SOLELY on self-improvement? No, there is a narrative that they want you to finish. It's what they designed and intended you to do. When a piece of software fails to pass this test, it is no longer a game. A video game is an extension of real-life games like Blackjack. There is no narrative. Only gameplay and improvement.
>>340504792
all aboard the (you) train
woo woo~
>PS3 phat
plays the entire ps1,2,3 libraries. That's a lot of games and some of them are even good
>Wii U
With a hacked vWii it can do shit tons of emulation for nearly every retro system, and gc and wii natively. U edges out the regular Wii because there are a few Wii U games that don't suck I guess
>Dreamcast
Now that the top two consoles have made pretty much any other home console irrelevant, the Dreamcast is #3 because it's not been completely encompassed by other systems. I like my Dreamcast anyway
>>340504364
Not every game passes "focus on competition and self-improvement". Nice cherrypicking though.
>>340504896
That's not a counter-argument.
>>340505000
It wasn't meant to be, I'm just here to read what kind of stupid shit you'll post next.
>>340505083
Just posting facts.
>>340504792
Anyway I haven't been responding to you before but I'll start now. It looks like you're saying that video games by definition cannot have narrative
>Once you implement that crucial element, "narrative", a game it no loner is.
but this is stupid because you're basically invalidating every video game in existence besides simple things like pong. Even super mario bros has a story
What would you say about non-videogame games that have a story? Are they not games? Does a game cease to be a game if I come up with a story for it?
>>340504792
I think this article may had been written with you in mind. It's 15 images long, so I won't bother to upload all the pages here. Instead, here's an IMGUR link.
https://imgur.com/a/q6BUr
TL;DR: Out-of-shape shut-ins who only play video games for the score are just as bad as artfags who play then for the stories. It's a balanced between both, you idiot.
>>340505542
No it's not a balance between both. If you want a narrative, read a book.
I'm playing a game, give me a game.
>>340505772
>I'm playing a game, give me a game.
Then go play football or something with your friends outdoors instead of staying inside pushing buttons to make a character on your TV move, you subhuman shut-in.
>>340505542
I'n principle I'd love to see more scoring systems in vadya, as the modern phenomena of speedrunning generally exists to make up for the lack of housekeeping in most games. However, he's not wrong that the scoring in most 'old school' games was pointlessly tacked on and is rarely payed attention to outside of arcades.
>>340505364
It's not invalidating all video games. It's just invalidating video games you like. I don't care about Mario, and no "video game journalist" is going to tell me it's better designed than Robotron. The sheer fact there's story, completely eradicates its credibility to me.
There are a few new games that I play today such as Forza 6 or Art of Balance.
But at the end of the day, I've been singled out. You new generations are taking away my games. When it comes to big budget, the industry is focusing on you guys and not me. But I was here first.
>>340505903
No, why don't you just leave my hobby altogether. What you're looking for here, you're not gonna get. Go read a book.
>>340505903
>le video games are art XD fags
Dude, fuck off. Video games are toys and always will be.
>>340506047
So you admit you're a shut-in who sucks at sports and can only get satisfaction by pushing buttons to control an action figure on TV and make some arbitrary numbers go up?
>>340506274
If you read Icycalm, you would know he hates artfags as much as gameplayfags.
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>>340506360
Link related.
http://culture.vg/features/art-theory/on-the-genealogy-of-art-games.html
>>340506286
I'm not a shut-in. I do what I want to though. I'm a grown man. And I want games, therefore give me games. There is no reason why things should be so shit if they were so perfect in the late 70's and 80's.
Why do you want to play games? What makes your investment in them more important than mine. If anything, I've most likely contributed more to the industry than you have by sheer age.
>>340506586
Jokes on you, I'm a year older than you. Unlike you, I understand the necessity of progress and why score-based games are a dead-end. Otherwise, we all would still be playing Atari.
>>340506360
Pick a side, fence-sitter.
Games aren't supposed to be cinematic experiences and they're not supposed to have stories. Have stories alone makes them like movies and books. Why on earth do you want a story in a game? It's like wanting a story in fucking Baseball. We're not role-playing faggot. We're playing a game.
>>340506743
Then go play baseball instead of pushing buttons in front of a screen. It's about the immersion you idiot.
>>340506675
>Otherwise, we all would still be playing Atari.
I'd prefer that.
Also, your argument collapses on itself. Technological progress would inherently shift games to be bigger and more ambitious. It's just, in my timeline, instead of focusing on cinematic experience, they'll be focusing on expanding mechanics to make entire worlds centered around a sport with ever-evolving complexity and high production value.
>>340506837
I'm not going to read any of these pages you're posting. Theie language and delivery of message indicate he has nothing of worth to say.
>>340506921
>It's just, in my timeline, instead of focusing on cinematic experience, they'll be focusing on expanding mechanics to make entire worlds centered around a sport with ever-evolving complexity and high production value.
And why not both? They're not mutually exclusive. RPGs were a thing before they were video games. Ever heard of a game called Dungeons & Dragons?
>>340506837
>It's about the immersion you idiot.
Then go watch a movie with the lights off.
>>340507010
Obviously you read some of it and its shattering your world view.
>>340507098
>And why not both?
It's not both. The only big budget games I have today to play are Forza 6, Driveclub, and Trackmania Turbo. It's not enough. I want big ambitious attention given to games and gameplay, NO NARRATIVE.
Everything else is narrative-focused because your kind eats this shit up.
>>340507136
Video games are more immersive than movies since your character is free to explore rather than being restricted by what the director wants to show.
>>340507294
So just racing games? You got some shit taste in games.
>>340507407
When implement narrative, it's all about what the developer wants you to see. Every nook and cranny is something designed that they want you to see and make you finish te game and say "wow that was a fun ride"
I don't want a rollercoaster. I want a game. Give me Robotron. Give me Burger Time. Give me Utopia. Give me Zaxxon.
>>340507687
And this is why the industry is fucked. Because of people like you. Racing games are the prime definition of a peak video game. Endlessly replayable and centered around self-improvement/competition.
>>340507098
Because if you stopped reading these shitty journals and played a video game you'd see that video game AI hasn't significantly improved in over 10 years.
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>>340500015
>Are you guys seriously arguing that, not only is Sailor Moon not one of the greatest anime, but that considering it important is somehow an American thing?
Not arguing, it's a fact. Sailor Moon had its moment of glory. Like thousands of other anime series every year, every month, it's nothing special. It's nowhere near being an "essential" or a "classic". The only reason some retards are saying that kind of shit is because it aired in America during the younger years of a lot of 4channers who had nothing else to watch. Nostalgia != classic.
>>340509602
Oh and of course, if you liked it, you are definitely a (closet) homo.
>>340509602
What anime would you say are better than it then? What is a 'classic' to you and what would you put over it?
