Give me your honest opinion of this game
its alright.improved combat but everything else sucks . i hope next time bethesda gets their shit together
Feels like a Fallout game made by marketing executives.
>>340385602
It's a bad game that I have fun with.
>>340385602
It confirmed my belief that anything they make will be unplayable until they completely scrap the engine, burn it, and build a completely new one from the ground up.
A tall order that comes up short
It's terrible.
It does shooting better, but it's still terrible.
Even the graphics are still shit.
This shooter with perks is garbage, and not a Fallout game.
>>340385602
its ok not as good as 3 or NV but fun for a few hours
Skyrim with guns.
>>340385602
Doesn't have a compelling atmosphere that I identify with a great Fallout game like New Vegas. More or less a matter of conceptual direction probably.
Meh somethings are good (moddin the game makes it better ),overall 6.5/10 a bit more than average 5/10 its generic shootin.
It's a good game but not as good as it's predecessors. You will not regret buying it but maybe have a hard time enjoying it as much as other Fallouts.
>>340385602
Extremely flawed, no longer a proper RPG, and it's still the most fun and among the best games of the last few years. Def top 3 2015.
>>340385602
>>340385602
I think it's a fucking great game, it makes Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas look so much better. Any faults you had with those can be easily overlooked when comparing to the alternative, it's wunderbar!
>>340385602
I got my money worth from it. But its not an RPG like previous FO games, even FO3 does a better job.
The quests are entirely linear and there is little to no choice in anything. It even has a totally meaningless ending that changes nothing for the game world.
>>340385602
Absolute dogshit. Bethesda is STILL fucking using a 20 year old engine for their games and can't even code ladders. They're fucking useless and their writers are horseshit.
Super lackluster.
Graphically better, which is a given as a next gen game.
Shooting is better.
Perk system is not fun or rewarding, really.
There is zero point in doing a settlement, let alone 15+ of them. Absolute waste of a few perks and points into SPECIAL just to try placing stores and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp61CWg8XY0
Best review.
>>340386086
I hope people don't fall for their shit anymore, but normies are pretty stupid.
>>340386137
>2 hours
That's longer than I spent playing the game.
>>340385602
just zero personality to the game.
it's a shame, because it's pretty good looking for an open world moddable game, and the gunplay is a massive improvement, but there are just so few good characters.
I would pay $500 to have the next game done by Obsidian
Can't put your gun onto to your back, essentially a huge "FUCK YOU" to anyone who considered ever switching to third person for more than 2 seconds
Can't see what guns enemies have either until they pull them out
And that's not even mentioning the shitty dialougue and removed RPG aspects
>>340386420
>pretty good looking
lol
>>340386302
Don't worry, Skyrim "remaster" will be bestseller
I'm glad people generally dislike it.
>>340386137
for some reason I enjoy people talking shit on Fallout 3 and 4, I don't know why.
But being on topic, the game is a good time sink. Power armors are the best change and the shooting is fun too.
Everything else is just shit and mediocre. I still spent over 9 days worth of game time, settlements really got to my OCD.
>>340386747
>Power armors are the best change
fuck off
>>340385602
Got bored of it faster than I did with the others. No interesting replay value since you can easily max your skills with all weapons.
>>340385602
I don't like crafting or settlement building. Those are just systems that I'm completely uninterested in, and Fallout 4 decided to make them like, 75% of the game. Even the settlement building itself feels awkward and tacked-on, the transition between gameplay and workshop screen is so jarring. It's pretty much impossible to roleplay as anything. You are an omnipotent wasteland god, the only person in over 200 years to ever think to tear down these bombed-out houses and build something liveable out of them.
Give me a fucking break.
>>340386561
Isn't there a mod to fix that?
>>340385602
Shooting was improved, but I honestly dislike 70% of the guns' designs and Melee is ass unless you're in PA.
I wish the people who wrote the hidden little stories and placed the bears/gnomes wrote the rest of the game.
>>340385602
meh
i cant say it's a bad game because i complete it, but it has lots of flaws
wanna fuck Ada though
>>340385602
It's not bad, but it's not good either. It does a lot of interesting stuff but none of it ever comes together in a meaningful way. Crafting/modding is cool, but it just makes it feel like the whole world isn't actually developed. For a world described as a wasteland, this is the only game in the series where it actually feels like there's nothing of note out there to find, partially because the design of the game is that you're supposed to go out and make those things. Not a terrible idea, but it didn't work out.
Voice acting for the protagonist is stupid and just ruins any real attempt at roleplaying. The writing is terrible, I don't even feel like going into it.
Beyond that, combat is fine. Shooting is fun, fighting is enjoyable. They tried something interesting with SPECIAL and just kinda wound up butchering it. I understand what they tried to do, but it didn't work as they intended.
Basically, it was a hugely experimental game that tried to shake up the formula. Almost none of it paid off. It's fine for what it is, but as a Fallout game, and as an RPG even more generally speaking, it's poor at best.
It can be a fun wee shooter but I don't think it can be called a Fallout game.
>>340385912
>fallout 3 was regarded as skyrim with guns
>fallout 4 is regarded as skyrim with guns
like pottery
Awful
Pretty much the only game that I think wasn't even worth pirating
A SHIT
>>340387241
>fallout 3 was regarded as oblivion with guns
>fallout 4 is regarded as skyrim with guns
ftfy
It's not very good.
Bad for a shooter, bad for an RPG. I can only see the appeal if you like shooters and RPGs, you have a very limited schedule for games, and you have a mindset where you can only play one game at a time.
>>340387026
Nope, they're all shitty and very janky. Essentialy you can equip a model of a un onto your back. Bethesda somehow fucked their own system and even modders cant get it back.
Expect your guy to put his battleaxe in his pocket instead of on his back in elder scrolls 6
>>340385602
It's extremely boring and I didn't even make it out of the first town. The new perk system is garbage and having a voiced protagonist was pointless.
>>340386859
they feel like power armors, now you can argue that you not having to learn before using it or every bandit using it is bullshit.
But you'd be straight retarded to believe that going to an inventory, equip your "power armor" is better than what was presented in Fallout 4.
Don't be so deluded, power armors were just over glorified normal armors in every other game.
You're just being salty for the sake of being salty and can't admit that some changes can be good.
>>340385602
yes
no (yes)
sarcastic yes
give me some more caps (yes)
>>340385602
the fallout hype wore off about 10 hours in and I realized that I wasn't actually having fun with all these half assed mechanics and boring gameplay and dungeons
what is it about Fallout 3 that makes it so much more fun to play than this?
>>340385602
Fun to play, but shitty writing.
>>340387569
Have you played New Vegas?
>>340385602
Combat is fun
Lack of any meaningful RPG mechanics was a mistake
Todd fucked up
>>340387626
yeah but I still honestly prefer 3
>>340385602
I dropped it faster than I usually do. I'm not even sure why, it was just boring.
>>340387705
How?
what game are you talking about all I see is a piece of dogshit
>>340387569
Better atmosphere and no voiced protagonist, which allows for some role playing beyond "muh son" and being a good guy.
pic related
>>340385602
I came in expecting absoultely nothing, seeing how the trailer was trash, gameplay I saw so far wasn't interesting and bethesda hasn't made a good game in over 10 years.
I was kind of surprised at howfunit was, powerfisting everything on psycho jet, killing raiders, mutants, ghouls and "others".
Then I did some side quests and not only were they absurd (me dad discovered immortality, boy stuck in fridge), dialogue was shite and meant nothing
After almost 30 hours of walking around and killing the same enemies with the same weapon on the same drug I started the main quest. Uninstalled the game with 35 hours on the clock.
Bethesda once again shows they have no fucking clue what fallout is about and made a shitty repetitive shooter with spaceholder story instead
Felt like I should have loved it
Looked like I should have loved it
But something just felt very wrong with it that I just can't put my finger on. Other than the shitty settlement building of course
I like the settlement aspect since it gives all the junk you collect purpose.
The new Power Armor system is amazing.
I like the dynamic camera during conversations and how your companions actually comment on the story and certain places in the game
I like the perk system and it makes special stats worth something this time around aside from +2 in a skill
Combat is better and survival mode is fun and challenging
>>340385602
Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.
Just like every other modern Bethesda game.
>>340387534
Sorry I just lose it whenever I remember T-60.
I just don't care about Fallout 4. I only remember it exists when it's brought up on /v/. I played it, beat it, returned it, and haven't thought about it since. It's just not a good game. It's not very fun, either. It's bland and unremarkable. It's as cookie-cutter and uninspired as an FPS can be, because it's certainly not an RPG. You could at least roleplay in Skyrim even though there were no classes and it was dumbed down. There is nothing good or redeemable about Fallout 4, and I just don't care about it.
>>340387327
>>340387850
I respect your opinion though I do not agree with some points raised.
>walk to chemistry station
>psycho jet psycho jet psycho jet psycho jet psycho jet psycho jet psycho jet
>>340385602
Dissapointment, if it wasn't made by bethesda, I would surely have won the GOTY
>>340385602
Game is okay, but mods make it amazing. DLC is pretty good too. The atmosphere of the game is very nice and there are a ton of stories in the world that you have to look for because they aren't in a book or audio record. There are some quests that are lore breaking and actually really shit, but they are only a couple and most of the other quests are really fun or just generic "kill the gang located here, slay their legendary leader, and rescue this captive" generated missions.
Weapons are boring at first because everything uses a pipe-weapon, and they designed the game so that 'dungeon delving' isn't nearly as good of a paycheck as building a strong settlement that can provide you with resources and caps, but as you buy, find, and craft decent weapons you can do some crazy shit. Because of the weapon system, going full nerd crafting shit can make you a badass without taking a single combat perk. Also, junk is used for crafting and settlement creation so it isn't as much of an income source as a resource in its own right.
Again, I would not recommend buying it for a platform because the mods are few and not nearly as good as the PC. PC mods run the range of "MAKE MY WAIFU PRETTY!" to adding interesting armor and weapons. There is even a mod that lets you have the dog as a permanent companion like the eyebot in New Vegas, because originally he was programmed as a permanent sidekick instead of a full companion.
![Todd [Tippy Toe] Howard.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MhvpjTr.jpg "Todd [Tippy Toe] Howard.jpg")
>>340387892
This particular entry is only as wide as a lake.
Your forced to join a faction for fuck sakes.
>>340387768
opinionsI haven't played either in a really long time but I just remember being a lot more fond of 3 than New Vegas. I still love New Vegas
>>340387938
Wait what, I'm not really all that smart with mods and technical game-y stuff but I see some Skyrim terms thrown in there. Can anyone give me an idiots explanation?
It's just underwhelming as fuck
>>340387938
What the fuck, is this real? Holy shit it is
Simplified speech wheel, dumbed down dialogue that affects absolutely nothing, without the ability to say no just yes when you feel like coming back and a voiced protagonist.
I don't need to mention anything. Those already put the game into the negative.
>>340387938
>It's not even Skyrim with guns
>It's Oblivion with guns
>"survival" difficulty
great game todd
>>340385602
Ultimately boring. The only locations worth remembering to me were the Dunwich Borers and even that was kinda disappointing since there wasnt much spooky stuff
I really enjoyed it. But I'm a casual fucktard so maybe my opinion isn't even remotely valid.
I thought the story was fine, nothing special but it's not really something I particularly care about, I just enjoy wandering around the wasteland murdering things anyway.
It's been vastly improved for me with the addition of a few mods and my 1080's ability to run it maxed out with a bunch of graphical mods 60fps consistently.
I guess I'm in the minority on this one but I'm glad I bought the season pass and I still enjoy playing it.
>>340388045
There are reused classes shit from oblivion in the Fallout4.exe, they don't belong in the game and have no purpose other than showing how incompetent bethesda is
>>340387938
fuck bethesda
>>340387938
Also, can you open any game in Notepad++ and it'll give you the raw code?
>>340388045
>skyrim
>classess
good one anon
>you'll never get back the 50 hours you spent playing Fallout 4
>you played Fallout 4 for 50 hours
how do you cope /v/
>>340387943
>I would surely have won the GOTY
Congrats anon!
>>340387938
Skyrim has VATS entries all over the files.
What else is new?
>>340387026
Take >>340387498 with a grain of salt, because he has a lot of it to spare.
There are a ton of mods that fix the weapons and text of the game in various ways. The thing is that certain mods are better at different weapons because that mod maker prefered that weapon. Hell, modders added backpacks that actually work like a real backpack and shit like that to the game.
I've held off playing it desu
>>340388152
>>340388178
Ahh thanks, folks!
>>340387943
What game are you
>>340387963
>Again, I would not recommend buying it for a platform because the mods are few and not nearly as good as the PC.
PC is a platform. I think you mean console
>>340386747
>I enjoy people talking shit on Fallout 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
This guy is actually pretty entertaining to listen to.
>>340388024
New Vegas had real choices, a story that wasn't incredibly boring, and is set up in a way where character customization requires a little thought because enemy scaling is way tuned back in favor of gating area through enemy difficulty - that actually rewards character optimization with content.
>>340385602
Piece of shit
>>340385602
It was fun but not nearly as good as skyrim and left me with a unfinished feel at the end.
The thing I hated most after I finished was that the whole game there's this feeling of building towards something as you build all the settlements and expand the map and collect power armors and rank up the 3.5 factions..... but that something never comes. You're a perked out monster with 50 shitty settlements, dozens of unwanted powerarmor and less factions to do repeatable quests then you had when you started.
>played fallout 4 with mods for more than 150 hours
>gets boring
>try playing fallout new vegas
>miss the shooting experience from 4, new vegas feels like I'm aiming with a paintgun
Fucking hell
>>340388362
neat
>>340388197
>>340385602
least played bethesda game to date
>>340388428
>>340388428
You need help anon
You're in a place we can't reach you
>hear about the gunners
>oh shit maybe I can join them
>see some gunners
>they shoot me for no reason
>oh cool Children of Atom
>I wonder if I can talk to them
>they shoot me immediately
Fuck this game is stupid.
>hurr you can join CoA but it's locked behind DLC lmao
This game wasn't even worth pirating.
>>340385602
why does the tv still work?
is it nuclear powered?
>>340388454
>User scores
>>340387806
I wouldn't be as harsh, but yeah, honestly. The game suffers from a serious lack of direction. It feels almost like they had an idea, then halfway through they had another idea and they kept this cycle up of having a new idea when they were half done with implementing the old one and so none of it feels fully realized. Settlement crafting is one of the things I can think of, it feels like it was a central idea for a different game and they decided to put it in here for some reason.
A step down from 3, but better than new vegshit
>>340388495
Yes? That's one of the basics of the fallout lore as to why robots explode dramatically and the cars as well, everything is nuclear powered.
>>340388473
>>340388443
I'm going to play some more right now and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>340388454
>Fallout 3
>91
>Fallout NV
>84
>same as fucking 4
god awful
>>340388554
DONT BE MEAN TO NEW VEGAS
>>340388428
>only 143
Pleb
>>340388454
Remember when Bethesda didn't pay Obsidian some money because New Vegas didn't have at least 85 score on metacritic?
Scum of the Earth.
>>340388340
>none of the people in shady sands propably seen a computer in their life
>their literally came from vault 15
Who would you rather made the next Fallout?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10428737
>>340388639
why
>>340388484
>Thinking a radiation cult would be friendly after 20 some years
those fucks are crazy, dude, what did you expect?
>>340388646
not all of them
>>340388572
ANON STOP
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND WATCH YOU KILL YOURSELF
>>340388642
As much as I dislike them, I can't really blame them.
If Obsidian had agreed to not getting a bonus if NV didn't reach 85, then they knew what they were getting into.
Of course, this is assuming that both parties had been open about it and knew about it from the start.
>>340388178
>You cannot cast a spell while shouting
So this has bits of code from Oblivion AND Skyrim? Holy fucking shit Bethesda, get it together, no wonder their games run like ass. They've been using the same code since 2006 and haven't bothered to change it. I wonder if there's some Morrowind code in there too?
>>340388703
I literally have no other game to play, I get bored easily and I just love games that let's you make your own character in a open world, that's why I modded skyrim so hard it won't even boot up now.
I do not know why people even play that. Maybe I'm out of touch. Sales was skyscrapers too, so I'm on wrong side of the boat, I presume. But I really do not know why millions of people play this game.
That's Bethesda and everybody who played one game from them since Morrowind knows what will be on the plate. Some freeroaming, bland combat system, some quests - some are okay, some are FedEx, avarage characters and writing, not bad and not good.Maybe that's what people need?Also, graphics are dull cause Gamebryo is shit.
And through years TES and Fallout became too safe. At least in Morrowind you had GIANT FUCKING MUSHROOM CITY or GIANT FUCKING POTATO IN THE SKY (and that's why I think people love New Vegas - at least Obsid devs had some liberty while making that game, it's a shame gameplay-wise it's the same boring shooter butchering S.P.E.C.I.A.L.).
The real problem with all this game you need to FIND redeemable qualities, and thats a bad sing. 'Yeah, F4 is bugged and shooting is blend bu THAT FUCKING QUEST (character, music, dialog) IS GOAT MAN'. 'Yeah, cities in Skyrim is small, dungeons are copypasted draurg fest, but THOSE MOUNTAINS MAN.' etc. In good game you will not pay attention to flaws or go easy on them. In Bethesda games you are facing flaws constantly.
>>340388639
how... how do you even spend that much time with that game? What the actual fuck is even in this game that takes up that amount of time?
>>340388172
99% of the time, yes
DSP liked it so it sucks
Got gifted this from a mate. We always gift each other stuff.
Anyway as as Fallout fan I fucking hate it with a passion.
I've gotten over it. As someone who wanted something dumb to play, it's a half decent shoot n' loot / exploration game.
On a second playthrough just to see what I missed the first time.
After this I'll probably never come back to it.
>>340385602
Feels soulless and rushed.
They wanted it out of the way so they could concentrate on the next Elder Scrolls.
>>340385602
Step down from fallout 3 / new vegas.
>>340388454
>cherry picking highest nv score and lowest fo4 score
FO4 got higher than NV lol
WHY ARE THE GRAPHICS FUCKING SHIT
>>340388646
The original settlers would've, but they're be dead by the time Fallout 1 starts, so he's not wrong.
>>340388380
What hurt the most for me at the end was the lack of a proper ending slideshow.
Every other Bethesda Fallout has one, so why not this?
>>340388796
The engine is millions of lines of code, most of it was written over a decade ago and they have no idea what most of it does. If they change or remove some seemingly redundant code it could break something huge elsewhere, so they just leave it.
Infinity Ward have the same problem, they've been building on top of the same engine since 2003
>>340389049
Bethesda
dropped it after like 5 hours
>>340388916
>silence is golden
OH SHIT DOWNLOADING NOW
>>340388829
I played this game so much I can't even level up anymore since I completed every quest and killing monsters would take ages to level up. I got some many legendary weapons stored that the game lags when opening up the chest. I should realy kill myself now.
>>340389204
Yeah it's great.
I'm using cheap shit because it's my second playthrough and I just want to fuck around.
>>340388639
and I have yet to finish the DLC, I think I'll spend another good bunch of hours on this too.
>>340385602
It was ok, the dlc looked kinda shitty so haven't gotten any.
>>340389293
Wow, how? I finished far harbor dlc and every quest and immediately got bored of the island since there's not much to do.
How casualized is it?
>>340389243
It's a lot of fun to romp around in multiple playthroughs like that.
>>340389368
prepare for 4000 (you)sit's supa casul
>>340389368
insanely
you have to seriously gimp yourself for a challenge - even in survival
>>340389368
It makes Fallout 3 seem in depth by comparison.
>>340389368
Most anons can't even beat survival mode
>>340389345
I'd recommend the Automatron DLC, as building your robots is quite enjoyable.
Far Harbor is a big disappointment for me, however.
random question
where do the slaves in caesars legion come from
>>340389368
It's the normie fallout game
>>340385838
This. Everything about it is incredibly shallow and half Assed, but it's a fun time waster if nothing else. I just try not to think about what it could have been if BETHESDA weren't terrible
>>340388701
Bioware
>>340385602
It was ok, but going deeper down to path of console arcadity. Its becoming more of a shooter and less of a rpg, sadly. Im not gonna buy any DLC or more of Bathesda's products for that matter.
>>340389363
autism and settlement OCD
and that's not even taking in consideration the other characters I made to fuck around with different builds and shit.
I have one maxed out character for example that I used at the start of my sessions because i was curios how the rest of the perks played out before choosing them.
>>340389483
I think that's because it keeps crashing between sleeps.
>>340389489
Captured from raided settlements, travelers and traders in the Mojave Wasteland.
Played it for 491 hours so far. Played 300+ hours when it first came out in about a month. Took a long break, waited for new survival and DLC to come out.
It's fun. There's a lot of problems with it, don't get me wrong. It's a good "I want a shooter, open world with loot, quests and RPG elements" game.
>>340389590
why dont they turn them into legion ears
>>340388701black isle
>>340385602
I like it.
It's got plenty of flaws, but it's not enough to make me dislike the game.
>>340389662
How do you spend that much time playing it
>>340389662
>Played it for 491 hours so far. Played 300+
>>340389662
>>340389087
>The engine is millions of lines of code, most of it was written over a decade ago and they have no idea what most of it does. If they change or remove some seemingly redundant code it could break something huge elsewhere, so they just leave it.
sounds like wh40k.
>>340389662
It's a fucking terrible "I want a Fallout game" game though
>>340389670
Because Caesar wants people to do the cooking and cleaning for him as he can't be arsed, that's why.
>>340388916
oh as for a rating
it gets a 3/10
>>340385602
>setting 10/10
>game play 04/10
>graphics 5/10
>writing -100,000,000/10.
All the bugs, steamlining, reused assets, sloppy interface and dull gameplay could be over looked if they had some fun missions and a serviceable story.
But it's hot garbage.
>>340389543
>Modern Bioware
No
NOOOOO
I like it
>>340389710
Originally, I did different builds. Heavy guns build, melee, stealth and such. Tried to do different endings, I got through BoS and the institute, some of the RR and MM.
Currently re-playing through it on the new survival and just got to Far Harbor.
>>340389793
Agreed. As I said, it has a lot of problems. I still find it fun though. I never got heavily invested in Fallout's lore. I love the post-apocalyptic setting, I like looting.
>>340385602
it's ok
>>340385602
It's not an RPG and it tries to sell as one, that's bad
settlement building is fun though
>>340389293
>Anon just let's the game run in background while making a sandwich
NV shits on it
>>340389975
I love it for how it triggers the RPG crowd
I think it's alright.
>>340388178
In Skyrim NPCs used classes to determine their skill leveling.
It isn't done right. I remember back when I got new vegas, I was so fucking excited when I got my first power armor from the brotherhood, while in fallout 4 you get one in the fucking second quest.
I think the most disappointing thing was the lack of 'interesting' ambience.
In FO3 and NV you had vaults in which the entire population was a single person cloned over and over again, vaults in which drugs were pumped into the corridors, vaults that forced people into a social experiment of sacrifice, vaults that created life.
You had unmarked houses and caves with a story of their own, no quest connected to them. Just diares left behind that left you guessing with only part of the story in your hands.
In FO4, you have a vault in which people live. And, uh, something goes wrong I guess.
And another vault in which, uh, there's robots? But then they go haywire? I don't know, everything is dead now. Spooky, uh?
Then this one...they were all experiments for medical research, but nothing went wrong so, um...I guess there wasn't much point to that, uh?
Everything lacked 'punch'. There were no "Oh shit, so that's what happened" moments. There were no moments when you learned the history of a place and went "Wow, I'm so glad I explored this unmarked house".
It just felt like a grind of environments where nothing noteworthy happened, unless this was your first FO game ever.
>>340385602
step up from fallout 3 but still pretty boring and bland at the end of the day
world is bland, uninteresting characters are like cartoon characters
>>340390154
Fucking this, that sacrifice vault in new vegas was so good, I almost forgot about the quest I was doing, I spend hours exploring it.
>>340385602
bad
>engine still runs like shit
>graphics are simply bad
>character animations are bad
>missions borring and repetitive
>dialog lacking in every way
>power armor after 10 minutes of gameplay
>after getting power armor there is no reason not to use it all the time
>skill tree bad
>no perks
>no repair system
>small map
>settlements
>Diamond City is underwhelming
>and more, can't think of any atm
good
>shooting is improved
>armor and gun customization
>some characters are interesting
>hacking is faster
4/10 at best
>>340390154
The Malden Middle School Vault where they were trying to build the ubermensch kids (and literally killing the ones that didn't meet standards when they turned 18) was pretty cool.
Also the shooting range in there was fun.
It's seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel of what I would consider playing. Bethesda has never given fewer fucks. It's hard to tell where the budget went, because the quests have never been this sparse or this bad and there aren't many dungeons either. The one thing FO3 did right was it at least had lots of content. It feels like they thought the settlement construction mechanic (which is a total nonstarter) somehow justified less real content. It can't compete with even the lousier parts of Bethesda's catalogue, much less NV or other more competently designed RPGs/open world games.
Shooting's a bit better now and the only thing that keeps it playable. Stomping around in the new power armor is gimmicky and looks stupid but is legitimately kind of fun and a little bit immersive in first person.
>>340385602
Highly mediocre, but still kind of fun with a ton of mods and pretending it's STALKER 2
it never is
>>340385602
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>340385602
Started again after 6 months with latest patch and all dlc and some mods, automatron is interesting so far. I've ignored main story and picked all sarcastic choices to avoid all that muh baby crap. Will see in few weeks what to play next.
>>340390348
That was actually one that pissed me off, because it just stopped cold in its tracks without building anything on top of its premise.
It keeps building up, showing you the dumb kid becoming smart, realizing he can overthrow the adults, then you get to the end, there's a tape with the principal and kid discussing...and that's it.
Nothing ominous, nothing to even suggest something else happened. It just ends.
>map is bigger
>has less places to explore
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>>340387569
Decently interesting quests - you could be putting together a survival guide, getting local radio set up or find a town caught in a fight between two superheroes/villains.
Fallout 4's quests are just different variations on "kill everything", with a few exceptions. Plus it has absolutely no personality, it's just so designed by committee it makes me want to puke.
i didn't like it, but i didn't like fo3 or new vegas either. or any bethesda game ever.
Was shit at first, but the new survival mode makes it a lot more enjoyable.
>>340385602
Bland
>>340385602
its meh
the settlement mods make it a decent thing to fuck around in. but not much else to the game than that.
>>340385602
Honestly? I have them the chance. And Once paid for it was too late, so I just got the DLC pack also because fuck it. But their next game? I will fully pirate and buy a copy once GTOY edition is on sale for $20 or less.
>>340389368
Fairly easy in terms of difficulty but the in general acts better than previously.
In terms of RP... Well it is not an RPG and I'm not even memeing. If you thought skyrim was simplified wait till you see this.
>>340390710
Fallout 4 map has over 300 locations
>>340385602
Mediocre at it's best, and it's best is being far far away from the story and quests, just exploring and collecting shit.
>>340391161
How many of those are not just another settlement or a "cool place" that you have to rid of raiders?
>>340391161
whoa another building with raiders and super mutants
>>340391196
>>340391248
You got me there
>>340391273
kekd at the pic
>>340390373
Remember that fo4 began development after they tried porting skyrim to the next gen consoles. So it had 2-3 years of dev time.
And most of the budget probably went into voice acting or something. Or just Todd buying some fancy vintage vinyls.
>>340390532
>All the sarcastic lines
How do you stomache that cringe fest? Even the NPC's seemed like they couldn't. Every sarcastic comment was met with the Npc saying something like
>Uhhhhhh...riiigght. Anyway, you need to-
>>340391161
>bunch of generic shit holes with nothing unique
Does it make it fun with all these locations but radiant quests always take you back to the bottling plant?
>>340390154
Which one was the one with the robots?
Vault 95 was full of chem addicts that were to be rehabilitated, then have a lifetimes supply of free chems dumped on their lap.
Vault 81 was built around using the population as test subject for medical experiments, but the Overseer sabotaged it and only three science staff arrived.
Vault 75 was a program in eugenics to create super soldiers, and ended in a subject uprising.
Vault 111 was a cryostasis facility
Vault 114 was a vault that wasn't finished in time for the great war
And Vault 118 had its wealthy residents transfer their bodies into robobrains, but not as a part of the vaults experiment, infact the experiment was sabotaged from the beginning.
>>340391161
SKYRIM 2 HAS OVER 300 LOCATIONS
>>340390038
>love the shooting/looting
I want to get 4 just for that. I don't have a good enough computer yet, and I'm somewhat disappointed with the speech wheel and no skills, but i still want it. If your into that type of game, I suggest borderlands (2, I never got 1). Borderlands is literally shooterlooter the game. Silly memeish humor sometimes, but an excellent co-op game that fits the post apocalypse feel.
>>340385602
"Just fuck up everything famie" THE VIDEO GAME
>>340391321
Well they did spend money on like 100 names being said out loud, from 1 character, for a few lines of dialog, as a gimmick or something at the start of the game.........
>>340385859
>search Todd Howard height
>doesn't come up
KEK
>>340391503
Honestly all of the functionality of skills is still present, it's just in the perks.
Personally I don't have a problem with adding 1 out of five levels to my guns perk as opposed to adding 20 out of 100 points to my guns skill.
Quests are extremely forgettable and the main plot was garbage. Besides that I have had a good deal of fun with it, also the happy meter is piece of broken shit.
>>340385602
I was disappointed, yet occasionally impressed. If I was to be purely objective I would call it a sub-par mess of decent concepts executed in a questionable manner.
Everything I saw in game made me think, "What possessed them to do it that way?" For example, why does the assault rifle look so stupid?
But I had a lot of fun playing it.
Don't go into looking for a coherent story or consistent lore. Just have fun killing stuff and you'll have a good time.
>>340391487
The only interesting and well done one was the eugenics one.
The others felt like stubs.
The cryogenics is just the plot hook, it has no rooms and it's just a tutorial corridor.
The chem one ends up just being a single bland gunners base, and the entire story of the place is crammed into a single terminal.
The medical experiments one is just a safehouse, and the medical experiments side is ignored since it only influences some kid for a side quest.
The unfinished vault and the robobrains one barely feel like vaults at all.
FO3 and NV had progression. When you enter a vault, you're given the "ending", and then you piece the story together in reverse room by room, until at the end you're given the beginning, which lets you piece everything together at once.
In FO4 you enter a vault, you're given a terminal telling you in plain text what the purpose of the vault is, and the subsequent terminals, if any, only go like "Look, what we said would be done is being done! Spoooooky!"
>>340391606
Yeah, I watched my bro play it on his Intel laptop before an update killed it. The only thing aside from that is some writing, that the coulda done more with the factions. It would been cool for the MM path to work out a consitutuon and unite the wasteland as a nation/state/thing like how they tried before, when the institute ruined it, maybe even learn why. Annoyed they made the BoS Nazis. Maxson is an enormous faggot, can't keep brotherhood bro around. Other than that, still wanna get the game. Looks fun. Somewhat boring weapons, but customization looks cool.
>>340391606
They're ok I guess, but I would've much preferred having both. The way it is now due to not having skills, many perks were just something along the lines of +5% rifle damage, which is boring and could've been handled by skills.
Also, lack of skills means a lack of skill checks in conversations and quests.
>>340385602
6/10 at first
8/10 now since Survival mode is out
Who /playing as Donald/ here?
>>340391802
No, I'm pretty sure the lack of skill checks can be blamed primarily on the voiced protagonist and dialog wheel.
What's the difference between a speech option that requires 40 guns skill, or the second rank of the gun perk after all?
Honestly most of my problems with the game have the voiced protagonist and dialog wheel at the root.
>>340391782
Not him, but that bothered me too.
The BoS's prime concern is safeguarding technology and the survival of humanity, Where the fuck did the whole "All inhumans must be purged" mentality come from?
It was NEVER a part of the BoS.
While I was playing I went like "Wait, what the fuck?" every time I was forced to interact with them.
Not even FO2's BoS, the most brutal and low-tolerance chapter, only gave a shit about shiny trinkets and keeping deathclaws at bay.
>>340391782
Institute didn't ruin the Commonwealth Provisional Government. It was an Institute project.
After it failed to petty infighting that was when the Institute went isolationist.
>>340391983
I thought an agent was sent by them who killed the other people trying to form a government? Then again, not sure, I havent played the game yet, only watched a bit
>>340391942
The BoS simply expanded "protect humanity from technology" to include things that were the result of misused technology. Like super mutants.
It's a different interpenetrating of the same ideology, they've just went from isolationist to expansionist.
>>340391942
I always figured the BoS was about guarding tech, to prevent another fallout, not trusting locals, etc. In fo3 they were cool in that they sorta strayed from the mission to combat the super mutant menace, the horrors from.the master, though these ones came from a vault.
the story and factions are so fucking bad
>>340392020
That's what Nick claims, but an Institute record from that era can be found in the Institute saying otherwise.
Though all of that would have happened something around 100 years ago, so the history probably got warped.
>>340391501
Shoo shoo, Todd
>>340392947
Groundcenter will be GOTY I promise, it'll just work
They ruined vats and added crafting, I give it a 2/10.
People seemed to have missed the point but in Fallout 3 you were meant to use vats as your main means of combat like it was a turn based game, it's your turn once you have the AP.
>>340393823
VATS it's basically cheating since the enemy doesn't have a "turn". Don't use it.
>>340385602
I hated it, i hated all of it, but it makes it clear that the fallout games are no longer made for people like me, as in people that want to play rpgs, im just going to play the previous instalments and won't get mad when Fallout 5 is even worst that this one
>>340393823
How did they ruin VATS in 4?
In Fallout 3 didn't you get massive damage resistance when in VATS?
And didn't NV remove it? I know in NV I never used it because of how often it would glitch out and hang, leaving me completely defenseless.
Adding the cancel button in 4 was probably the best thing they could have done?
>>340385602
It's okay
>>340393941
Not that anon, but VATS always pissed me off. Everytime I used it my guy would stare at enemies for five minutes before deciding to reload and blast them.
>>340393823
VATS had no place in that game, in the first 2 they were just aimed shots, nothing special about it, if they wanted to add something like that in the game they could have just added bullet time and call it VATS
>>340385602
Ugly, lazily put together, boring game, with no atmosphere or story, janky gameplay, shameful RPG mechanics and with enjoyment only out of lootwhoring. No redeeming qualities. Todd Howard does still have everyone by the balls it seems.
Music's okay i guess, though half of it is recycled from 3.
Also mods.
>>340385602
shit graphics
ok gameplay
shit story
shit RPG elements
meh characters
good exploration
>>340385602
Really fun 6/10 shooter with good modability to fuck around.
Provided you pirate it. It's not worth real money.
GOTY 2015
i give it 9.5/10
it has so many fucking flaws
just
so many
but it's so good
I want to kill myself everyday since I bought this game, not even kidding
I think that's what you feel when you're a rape victim, a mix of endless shame and sadness
I hate Todd so much I sincerly hopes he will die soon in a painful way
What the fuck were they thinking?
>go into Fens Sewer
>fps drops to 10, die
>fighting raiders
>raider ice skates with a glitched animation 5 feet and behind some cover
the more mods i add, the more problems i'm starting to come across.
Not New Vegas/10
>all these fucking nerds
Zero replayability, I can't even bring myself to open the damn game any more.
I pirated this game and never finished. Not an RPG , though.
>>340399672
To be fair, getting mad about something like a video game is muslim jihad-tier retardation.
>>340385602
Dull.
I dunno what it is about the these games, but they just feel ...off. Some parts of the game are fun and work decently but everything just feels shallow. It is really hard to articulate just what I find so off putting about them, I got the same feeling with New Vegas so it isn't just Beth's usual shittiness. Even with good writing and design the gamebryo games feel boring and clunky.
So shitty compared to new vegas that I lost interest before I finished it
>>340400456
I feel similarly. I think it's an issue with pacing and wondering "what do I do now?"
>>340385602
Unmodded = Shit
Modded = Good enough.
Mods saved this game in my eyes.
The combat was good, everything else was poop.
NV > 2 > 1 > 4 > Tactics > 3 > BoS
>>340400760
Possibly. Though I've played other sandbox and free roam games and never got this feeling. I think it's more the games want to try and be immersive; but with the shallow mechanics, bugs and sloppy presentation area and the often cringe worthy dialogue it just ends up being in the equivalent of uncanny valley.
It takes itself too seriously for me to enjoy it as just a videogame, but isn't nearly polished enough to be immersive.
>>340400907
Noice baito desu
