Was he really that bad to play as? I never really understood the hate for him, and I found it a cool reward for beating the main story to have an entirely new fully voiced character.Red dead thread
>>340347472
It's ultimately not a big deal. Rockstar have to let you be able to stomp around their sandbox even after you finish the story. It's just the only way to achieve that without compromising RDR's great ending is to have you play someone else.
What bugs me is that his voice actor doesn't even try to sound different from his delivery as from before the timeskip. So he looks much older but still sounds 12.
WORK YA DAMN NAG
>>340347939
>>340347472
There's also the fact that he's substantially uglier than John, which coupled with the fact that the VA is trash makes him incredibly difficult to like.
>>340347472
Many just got atached to John.
I didn't mind, actually I thought it was cool Jack could do all available side-missions his dad left and have dialogue for all of them.
>>340347472
It was great to see johns living legacy even if john didnt want it that way. We wanted it that way to kill those motherfuckers
>>340348068
Considering that horses failed him on two occasions(the bear and his father) It makes sense for him not to care as much.
>>340348130
I didn't think he was too ugly, maybe more then john but whatever, I didn't think the voice actor was too bad, especially since jack is supposed to be an emotionless cynic at this point
.>>340348202
It was cool that there was dialogue for doing every possible sidequest as him. Sometimes with their being different if you started it as john and finished it as him.
>>340348130
>he's substantially uglier than John
Huh? John was rough looking son of a gun, not ugly, but you could see how his days on the run took its toll on his appearance.
Jack looks cleaner exactly due because John trying to make his son live a normal life.
Who else here plays John as high honor and jack as low, felt more fitting.
>>340348638
John's rough look was a massive part of his charm.
>>340348824
>felt more fitting.
I don't think so, Jack following into his father's footsteps was already against John's expectations for him, then to go a step further and become a full outlaw is just kick his old man's corpse.
I kept High Honor on both of them.
>>340348417
I didn't. I stopped playing. My daddy dodn't want no outlaw's life for me
>>340349103
Exactly, having Jack go full outlaw helps to make it more tragic, john goes through all this work, but no matter what his son's fate is sealed. Besides Jack shows himself in game to be a depressed cynic, it makes more sense if he is an all out outlaw.
Also I wanted the rewards from both sides.
>>340349245
I killed ross and then ended it. To let that scumbag get away just didn't feel right, sure I may be an outlaw, and that wasn't what john wanted but I felt it was necessary.
i was already in a really bad mood from seeing John die, having him replaced with a prepubescent sounding shitty VA was like kicking me when i was down. That garbage VA was reason enough to hate him.
>>340349421
I really didn't think the va was that bad, his voice made sense for his characters age.
He just looks and sounds like a dirty farm kid instead of a bad ass ex-outlaw.
Also
WORK YA DAMN NAG
>>340349421
Jack wasn't much older in the Epilogue though, he just let all his hair grow to make it look rough as his dad.
>>340349704
>He just looks and sounds like a dirty farm kid instead of a bad ass ex-outlaw.
Because that's exactly what he was before his life got turned around.
I didnt like the ending of the game
It was perfect when he was back with his family, and doing quaint simple tasks with them and connecting with them all over again. It was very emotional to see John tease with his wife, and go hunting with his son. It's like: this is what he's wanted for so long, and he finally got it.
Why did it have to end so depressingly? I don't understand. I don't think the game is any better because of it. I just wanted John to be happy with his family.
He looks awesome in the Reyes rebel outfit. Like a sociopathic gunslinging hippy. I was quite content playing as Jack.
>tfw your nag won't work
>>340349927
Thats an old western story for you, they are supposed to have those kind of endings. Besides John would one day get bored with it. Did you save the train or stick with the cattle?
>>340348638
John could definitely be described as "ruggedly handsome".
>>340349927
He could never escape his past, just like Dutch, and then neither could the fat fag who killed him.
>>340349927
>Why did it have to end so depressingly?
Becasue the theme was that the Old West was drying and had to go for progress to come through.
Sad as it was John was the very embodiment of the Old West even if he was trying to do good, like his old boss said before dying "They don't need us anymore John."
>>340349927
That was the theme from the beginning, the loss of the wild west.
Besides, the government wasn't just going to let him go. Too much of a liability. John wouldn't have been able to change their minds even if he tried.
>>340350298
They could've just left him in peace and he would've died of old age. Just doing farm work he wasn't hurting anyone.
Does the federal government still kidnap people's families, make them kill their associates, and then kill them anyways?
Seems like a strategy that would be used in the Middle East.
>>340350121
>>340350275
>>340350298
It was just so hard for me because it was one of the few times where I was so excited for the character to finally get what they want. I remember right after Dutch was killed, and John was riding back to his family and that song was playing, it almost brought tears to my eyes because it was such a beautiful moment.
I thought it was amazing how Rockstar actually let us see their family life some. I loved the really small, minor tasks at the end of the game, it felt very "normal" as if that's exactly what they would be doing.
>>340350623
You didn't answer my question, did you save the train or stuck with the cattle?
>that moment when dutch was killed and the officer asks John for his gun
It seriously looked like he was just going to shoot John right there.
>>340350584
The thing is that John was likely not to be able to live like that for too long, trouble follows him and he is quick to answer it with a gun.
Imagine some bandits trying to steal his livestock, John would defintely chase them throughout the land and shoot them down, and probably slaughter their whole gang too; that's not progress.
>>340350746
I don't remember that mission. Was it right near the end? I probably ended up saving the cattle because I don't recall saving a train
>>340350121
>Did you save the train or stick with the cattle?
Oh.
>>340351010
In a mission you herd cattle with uncle and in the distance you see a train getting attacked, uncle tells you to just let them go but you have the choice to save the people.
>>340351164
I don't know anyone that left the people to die, but I understand that the point was to show that John Can't escape from his old gun-slinging life.
>>340351114
Seemed like such a pointless choice right? It had a point. John is someone who would never truly integrate into being a farmer. He will one day get bored with it and go back to bounty hunting or whatever.
>>340347472
The big deal is that the story arc shit means you are doomed to fail and can never free the son from the father's 'sins'.
So playing as the kid is 'haha u suck player' forced upon you.
>>340350620
It probably is being used, it's just kept top secret.
>>340351002
But if they're bandits no one will care if they get shot down.
>>340349927
it's a Western.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUKM_-CZikg
Best song incoming
he is such a fagget, john probly would of shot him
>>340353085
fuck you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yag41F7eCLU
if you didn't cry at this you're not even a man.
>>340348068
GET YER DANG JENG GANG
>>340352764
That doesn't fly in a society that's trying to be "modern".
>>340353097
Except Jack became John, just with a little kid's voice.
Now I really get how ridiculously genius was the story in RDRedemption. John is the embodiment of Old West, the choice with the train shows us his true nature, his attempt to save his son from mistakes he made fails with seek for redemption. RDR is truly a chill and furious at the same time. GOTY.
I warmed up to Jack eventually.
I still had a lot of stuff to do after the story so we had to get along.
As far as I'm concerned the shitty jack-scapade post game was fully redeemed by Undead Nightmare. Plus the part where you could take a 30th wave co-op horde at Blackwater into an open world lobby and watch the townspeople get slaughtered.
>>340347472
The only thing I lived about Jack was how he got revenge for John. Doing the stranger missions until you get to the government guy was great.
>>340353287
meh
Second best song incoming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO1SGvFSgZQ
>>340353319
John also didn't want Jack to become an outlaw and probably would've preferred if he was a "fagget"
>>340350452
Bitch I had three fucking Pardon Letters on me when I died
>>340353671
The placement of this song was terrible. If you get off the horse right after arriving in Mexico to pick up the treasure that is RIGHT THERE the song stops and won't start up again. wtf
What's cool about RDR is that knowing the ending actually makes it all the more depressing when you get there because the menial tasks with John's family before that mission give the player really depressing dramatic irony; their dialogue makes it seem like they're going to make it out but the player knows that's not the case.
>>340348824
>>340349103
>>340349271
I do Low Honor, if only to turn the greeting button into a insult button.
Too fun riding around talking shit to the npcs
>>340353849
That annoyed me so much. The first time I played the game I got the music and was like "This is fucking amazing."
The second time I did something different and the song stopped super early. I was so annoyed
>>340354030
Yeah this. One of the times I didn't mind getting spoiled.
I HAVE NOTHING TO LIVE FOR ANYWAY.
>>340353849
>>340354098
I've played through the game twice and I never knew the song existed until I saw it linked in a thread here.
>>340349704
>He just looks and sounds like a dirty farm kid
Because that's what he is ya nag.
>all these edgelord responses to >>340349927
It was a cop out because no one in Rockstar knows how to write a good ending
>Realize I can tie up damsels and lay them on train tracks
>Find some lady in a town and hog tie her
>Fidget with the throw mechanics to lay her on the track just right
>Wait like twenty minutes for the train. Keep having to save her from wild animals
>Train finnally comes
>Wait for the money shot
>Train collides with woman
>Woman is fine, but the train instantly stops moving forward, and instead just violently vibrates behind her
>Shoot her
>Train blasts down the tracks like nothing happened
>>340350121
>tfw I stuck with the cattle even though I really wanted to save the train
John would have wanted it that way.
>>340354214
Yeah me too. First saw it in a thread and on the second playthrough purposely stayed on the horse to enjoy it.
So how many of them did you kill at the end?
First playthrough I got about halfway through the group before the meter thing ran out.
Second time I just walked out of the barn and let them kill an honorable man.
>>340353389
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
>>340350620
I'm not sure about making them kill their associates but they sure as hell still kidnap people.
>>340354386
>edgelord
i don't think you know what that means
>>340353849
>Get to mexico on second playthrough
>Want my good horse so I get off the one the games get you to whistle it
>Music never starts
reloaded that save asap
>>340354419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC0lKwttOj0
There was a lot of funny shit in that game.
>>340354516
I just aimed every last shot at Ross.
Anyone else still boot up the game sometimes to play some poker?
>>340354856
Falling while running in this game was funny as shit.
>the amount of horses you had on a carriage determined it's speed
TECHNOLOGY
>>340354923
I would but my 360 died years ago and I have no idea where my copy of RDR is. Gave it to old roommate or brother
I played this game around release and a couple of months ago decided to revisit it.
Holy shit, I didn't remember the visuals being such arse and the 30fps really hurts it. The gameplay is also garbage with the autoaim.
The early story makes no sense. Why is Marston wasting his time with these worthless scum, especially Irish who keeps betraying him. Then he just grumbles some threats but never goes through with any of it.
I honestly believe RDR is one of the most overrated games of all time. The technical problems would have been remedied if it was on PC but it ain't so..
>>340348636
If you don't talk to Death as John can you as Jack?
>>340354516
>See the massive group of men
>Hit the deadeye button right as the game puts me into it
>John just immediately gets blasted to death
>>340355484
nice, dude. see you back on r/pcmasterrace
>>340354923
I didn't know how to play poker at the time so I just used that game to cheat in so I could duel some people
>>340355484
It's pretty damn overrated.
I likedUndead Nightmare, though.
>>340349565
fun fact: the va is the same kid that gives Chigur his shirt at the end of No Country for Old Men. I know this because as soon as he spoke I immediately fucking HATED him.
>>340355742
I don't think so, but there's also an encounter only Jack gets. There's a handful open to both, and they're fully voiced for both characters
>>340355818
The game would be superb on PC.
Not that poster though, I borrowed my brother's nogaems triple and bought a copy, it was damn good. The person you are replying to is right about the autoaim though.
>>340354768
You need the song. It's too good with the moment in the story to go with out it.
Shit gave me goosebumps
>you didn't get to kill a zombie Edgar Ross in Undead Nightmare
>>340354516
>Equip mauser pistol
>take moonshine right before the cutscene
Took 15 of those fuckers out.
>>340355998
You can turn off autoaim.
>>340355484
>Not turning off autoaim
>>340356010
>mfw hearing the song the first time at night while it was storming
>and arriving and getting off right when song ends
magical
How old was Jack at the end of the game anyway? Like 17?
I actually really like Jack because his role is essential to the ending of the game, which is a very satisfying experience to have.
All I'm really annoyed by are the people who think that John's death is the ending, especially when they bring it up in conversation. I feel sorry for those who didn't play all the way to the credits.
>>340347472
WORK
>>340347472
Jack was someone I would have not minded if he kinda realized the path he was going down and how, even for him, it was all for nothing.
He got educated. He had a better life than his dad did. But in the end, his hatred for the people that killed his father trumped all of it.
>>340347472
mcree had his own game?
>>340356223
It was pretty much the ending in my eyes.
I did every last sidequest I could with John. Finished the story and did the Jack specific stuff. Then I was done. It was just an epilogue really.
>>340354082
>Jack and john occasionally hit on prostitutes and other women on low honor
I loved insulting the fuck out of people. Especially Jack who treats every lawman like they personally killed their father
>bumps into one
>"I was about to apologize, then I saw your badge"
>>340356216
19, i think
>>340354516
I didn't kill a single one. They weren't going to get this victory over John. I played John as an honorable man, and he died as one as well. RDR 2 when?
>>340356245
you have to remember they also held him and his mom captive for months. Then they killed his dad, lost the farm, and probably also blamed them for his mothers death. I would be pretty pissed to that the dude who caused got a fucking reward and retired with honors.
>>340354423
You still proved the point the story wanted to tell. What if uncle didn't tell you to stay? You wouldn't have even thought about it. You still wanted to go, proving john really would never fully integrate into this new life.
>>340348068
this.
this is what completely ruined it for me. this one line is the fucking most annoying thing.
>>340356408
Yeah, after what happened, Jack has a real problem with authority.
>Yfw zombie marston
>>340356701
>Mfw
It was hype as shit being the "good zombie" But I miss having him say shit. Grunting gets annoying after awhile
>You can actually vaguely hear what he was saying through the grunts.
>>340356209
Late night to daybreak alongside a train for me.
Man I hope they make another one with moments like that. I think most everyone had a similar experience
>>340356134
>aiming with sticks
Garbage
>>340356682
Not to the same extent with high honor
>Low honor jack is a version of him who thinks all law is evil
>high honor knows its just ross's fault.
He is just as polite to lawmen if he has high honor.
>get in a gunfight as Jack
>"Go ahead! I got nothin' to live for anyway!"
>kill a Sheriff
>"I hate lawmen more than anything!"
>"Y'all killed my Pa!"
>>340356461
Oh I agree. Like I said, it should be him dealing with the fact that he knows that his hatred is going to ruin everything his dad tried to do. Yet he knows he can't let it go.
Jack realizes that he will either enact revenge but go down the same path his father did, or let it go and live with the knowledge that the person that ruined his life and killed his dad got off scott free. The choice is obvious between the two.
Who was really in the wrong here?
I liked how all the Stranger missions in the main game ended on these really sour or sad notes.
Then in Undead Nightmare they flipped it into black comedy.
>>340356408
>"I was about to apologize, then I saw your badge"
How the fuck do you people remember something as little as this? I played it years ago, I remember a few plot points, Bonnie, John diying and Jack gettings his revenge.
>>340347472
this is the only game I ever got 100% on. I played so much as Jack I eventually just tuned everything he said out or just became indifferent. Really I still play the game for the hunting or the poker and just to feel like a bad ass cowboy. Jack was not as good as his Dad but he wasn't terrible.
>>340357023
>that guy who just wanted to get to California
>finally found his dried up corpse in some random ditch
;_;7
>>340356910
I don't know about that. If you kill a lawman, even with high honor, he will sometimes yell out stuff like "you're the real criminals" or "I always hated lawmen".
>>340357027
I recently replayed the game as low honor. Also I read all of his quotes on the wiki.
>Talking to woman as low honor Jack
>You know they say I am at my sexual prime.
>>340347472
He has a weird square face that I hate.
He has an annoying nasaly voice
He has shitty facial hair
>>340357023
>helping the dude build the glider
>he immediately plummets to his death
>>340356945
Neither of them.
>>340357195
You really shouldn't be killing lawmen as high honor though, and even then killing them makes you lose it rapidly so my point still stands.
>>340357319
>so my point still stands
Not really. It's a quote Jack has regardless of his honor level, even if the thing you need to do to activate the quote results in a loss of honor.
>>340357023
>the best outcome is a guy fucking his horse
There was that one guy looking for flowers. if you go back to his house he actually buried his wife, leading to some people theorizing he just wanted the flowers to bury her with and could never get them himself.
>>340357427
Is see your point, but you have to admit he is far less antagonistic to lawmen as high honor.
>>340356291
Yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9yjoxwT32g
>>340357521
Of course, because he doesn't have the "insult" button. He's more polite in general.
He like john was too good for this cruel earth.
>I only play as nastas in multiplayer
Everyone was such a dick to him yet he still treated john so nice.
>>340357436
What? No, you get the flowers and you find his wife's mummified corpse sitting in a rocking chair
>>340357836
If you go back to the house afterwards anon. Did you read my entire post? You go back in there to find the corpse gone, and a small grave outside.
>>340357836
he meant "if you go back to his house after that"
>>340357709
Him and Luisa had the worst end.
>>340350882
thats called good writing / acting
>>340358041
To be honest though, luisa was a fucking idiot. If she had half a brain she would have been fine.
>>340358123
Wasn't she just a kid?
I would just save before doing the last mission, but from what i saw I can't remove the rancher clothing which is probably the ugliest outfit. So my only option is to save right before reuniting with the family if I want to play as john.
>>340358180
She was apparently old enough to think reyes would marry her, and old enough to go into combat.
>>340358364
So, at least 15. Perfect age to be naive and hold a gun.
>>340358512
Even as a 15 year old I wasn't that dumb. She has little excuse. And she was obviously older then that.
>>340358364
so 14 to early 20s? Its not like it hasn't happened before
>young charismatic leader
>promises social and political change
>then dude takes an interest in you
>what are you gonna do say no?
and it turns out he's fucking sleezbag
>>340358180
>>340358512
>>340358610
wiki says she was 19
>>340349245
My brother who does not like games but loves westerns actually stopped playing, I always gave him shit for not finishing it but he always told me that westerns tend to have happy ending, John got his wife, his son and his ranch back and that was that.I actually envy him for not knowing the real ending.
>>340358610
She was an illiterate mexican farm girl. You give her too much credit.
>>340358713
So the same age as playable Jack, giving her no fucking excuse. She charged armed soldiers with a knife for god's sake!
>>340347939
>It's ultimately not a big deal. Rockstar have to let you be able to stomp around their sandbox even after you finish the story. It's just the only way to achieve that without compromising RDR's great ending is to have you play someone else.
This, nice to see the first post got it right. If he wasnt there we would see people bitching about no post endgame gameplay like in GTA.
>>340358620
adding to that she's an orphan
>>340358727
she was a teacher
>Tfw born too late to live in the wild west
>>340358727
Guys, is it really that hard to pay the least bit of attention when trying to comprehend what the game is going out of its way to tell you?
>>340357023
>Then in Undead Nightmare they flipped it into black comedy.
And then there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiM-wAbl-u0
>>340347472
It's been 5 years since I killed Dutch in my first playthrough and I still haven't visited my family because I knew the ending and I didn't want to play as Jack
>>340357027
>Bonnie
>that dust kick after you see her for the last time
If I could leave Abigail i'd pick you, Bonnie.
>>340359274
Hey we have to give john credit for one thing, no matter how low his honor gets, no matter how many laws you break. He will never cheat against his wife since he loves her that much.
>>340352113
The story arc shit was unbelievably bad in that game. Like I can't believe how shitty they blew the whole setting. The legendary west could have been so much better but they wanted to be little faggots about it.
>>340359230
>I killed Dutch
No you didn't anon. He gave up. And when they were done with him, they'd find another monster to go after...May I see your gun? It looks better on the report.
>>340354419You actually get an achievement for watching her get run over
>>340357436
Mare pussy is a bretty good outcome, bro.
>>340359180
Fuck I never felt so shitty.
>>340359407
I just felt bad for her. Innocent and tough, and with a family history that's a bit tragic.
I think she saw something in John that many didn't, yet selfishness got her as well, as it was obvious that part of her wished that John wouldn't get his wife back. Good, subtle depth to that cast.
>>340359510
If you actually shoot him he runs away, and you can find other sasquatches (seriously I found those things easier then I found bears) all over the place, this imply's he was bluffing trying to get john to not kill him.
>>340359487
kill yourself my man
>>340359705
You first senpai
>>340358787
Love makes people do stupid things
>>340359461
Achievement called Dastardly
After Dick Dastardly
He invented tying broads up and laying them on tracks
>>340359624
I also appreciate the subtle depth of the fucking Rockstar cast. Like the guy who shouts about niggers.
>>340359624
If the game actually let you cheat on abigail (probably for a massive honor loss) I would have jumped straight to bonnie, mostly because I was able to see more of her then abigail.
>>340359428
Fucking christ you're right. I'd replay it but it's been years and every time I load it up I think my 360 is about to explode.
>>340359687
Or may have been a bug, like the horse riding bear and the bird people.
>>340359823
We needed more people like herbert moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hSEwy8ZORc
>>340359964
That' possible, but I like my version, makes me feel like less of a dick.
>>340359823
>That whole part in Undead Nightmare where he blames the zombies on British Catholic Homosexual Jews.
I'M HERBERT MOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN
>>340359510Everything he's saying is about John and his old gang.
>>340354856
>that ending
somehow getting jailed is more depressing to me during the game than dying. Like, how long would John's family have to wait for him if he were really jailed for all of the crimes he committed? How bad would that make John feel?
>>340359964
It's 100% a bug because Rockstars incredibly hamhanded theme for literally every event in the game is how everything is just so fake and cultureless in the american west before people were rescued by the coastal elites.
>>340360264
It isn't like Abigail didn't give him shit about it when they saw each other again.
>>340360272
The Wild West was authentic and genuine. The Modernity of Ross is the shit that is fake and cultureless. Remember that Dutch did nothing wrong.
>(When Fistfighting with a woman) "You're a walking, talking, heffer! Now hit me!"
Wait women fought back? I thought they just ran away when you attacked them.
>>340359979
>>340360138
>YOU CAN'T EAT ME! I'M HERBERT MOOON!
>>340360539
Dutch did plenty wrong, and for that he needed to pay, as did John. But the whole fact that from the very beginning he was used with the intent that one day they'd take him out too was what was most fucked up. The government has no shame and honor. Welcome to civilization.
>>340359979
Christ I knew he was /pol/ the shopkeeper but I don't remember them getting it this right.
>>340355484
>bad visuals
Nah
>30fps
Yeah
>Gameplay sucks cos autoaim
Turn autoaim off
>couldnt understand the story
Retarded?
Anyway Jack sucks because of them not getting a different VA for postgame.
>mfw Reyes became just another dictator
>>340362554
Do they write about it in the newspapers? They were always full of cool shit.
>>340362885
yeah, you can get an issue when you're playing as jack and see what all the characters' fates were.
>seth got rich
>marshall johnson retired
>reyes became a tyrant
etc
>>340362554
Did you expect anything different?
>>340348068
>WORK YA DAMN NAG
aside from this I didn't have a problem with him
>>340362554
As if he would becoming anything other than another dictator. The rebels were a great group who genuinely were fighting for change but Reyes was practically the same as the Colonel: using his position to fuck bitches and blow shit up
>>340362885
Yeah, in the post game they reference him ordering his goons to gun down some peaceful protesters.
>>340363207
>The rebels were a great group who genuinely were fighting for change but Reyes was practically the same as the Colonel: using his position to fuck bitches and blow shit up
So basically Obama
>>340350620
Yes, without a doubt.
If you do dirty work for the government, you will never ever be able to have a normal life/you'll be killed eventually.
It's like this weird thing where the government will enact its own justice on you for committing injustice for the government.
Reminder that Edgar Ross did nothing wrong and Marston deserved everything he got.
Can't stop progress.
>>340351164
>>340351308
>>340351332
This is how you use video games for storytelling, holy fuck I can't believe I needed the thematic relevance of that mission to be pointed out.
>>340351010
Same I don't remember anything about saving a train while herding cattle. But I haven't played in years
>>340363698
I always thought it was just a way to spice up a pretty boring farm mission
>>340359274
I liked Bonnie, I found myself wishing they had done more with her as a character, tho.
>>340359461
>set it all up
>waiting on the train
>mfw some bullshit random encounter
>mfw end up in a shootout
>mfw I get the achievement without getting to see my work
>>340363598
He personally ordered the execution of an innocent man and before that, abducted a man's family and held the hostage and used them as bargaining chips to extort John to do his dirty work.
I remember being annoyed at the way Undead Nightmare callously killed off like 80% of the characters. I get that it was for comedy but it just seemed irritating to me.
Also the way that everyone could have been saved if you just went to the mask first thing was annoying. Whoops, John slaughtered a thousand people by accident, aw shucks.
>>340363598
Fuck you. Archer was ok though. He actually grows to respect John somewhat, and is missing in the execution at the barn.
Anybody watch Peaky Blinders? Campbell reminds me of Ross
>>340357023
>save a prostitute from getting murdered or something
>find some guy digging a grave with her sorpse next to him
>John is visibly upset
>>340347472
Its a combination of the character you've come to really love getting killed. And then being told to immediately play as his son, which the only thing you knew about him previously is he's a stuck up teenager with daddy issues.
He redeems himself by killing his fathers murderers and riding into the sunset. But until that final moment, he just seems like a punk kid who grew up to be a punk adult. Basically, he needed better development. Also, his famous catchphrase was annoying no matter how you feel about him as a character.
>>340359964
Horse riding bear and bird people? Time to go spoonfeed myself
>>340366560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYdCvN-ukRY
Found it all on my own, how many good boy points do I get?
>>340347472
did anyone else not have much fun the first 4-6 hrs?
does it get a lot better?
I got it about a year after release, played a bit and then dropped it out of boredom.
>>340367706
It does get better as it goes. The beginning is boring since
1. dead eye is underpowered
2. all your weapons suck
3. not much side activities
4. can't explore the whole map
>>340347472
>tfw I just want it to come to PC
I can't stomach the thought of plugging in my shitty old 360.
>>340367706
I ended up misinterpreting one of the early McFarlane quests and rode a horse all the way to Armadillo. Then, by pure luck, roped the fastest horse in the game, which I kept for the rest of the game. After that, I spent the first 5-10 just doing side quests like hunting and the whole cannibal thing.
I actually had a blast at the beginning. And only realized way later that there was more to do at McFarlane Ranch. Whereas most people seem to get bored at the Ranch missions. But they are optional.
man i miss playing a full table of liars dice online. everytime i boot up a liars dice room, im the only one in there.
>>340369509
>tfw liars dice is the only gambling minigame you understand
New game when?
>S-see you around, Mr. Marston...
>>340368445
>>340368771
I'm gonna restart and see it through then. it's been at the forefront of my mind since I recently moved and had to sort through all my stuff again.
>Cattle-herding missions
>>340353389
That was so fun, why didn't gta online could learn one or two things from this
>>340349103
>>340349271
Jack is LITERALLY sasuke
>>340353389
best free roam multiplayer EVER
I still get irrationally sad that of all the rockstar games to get PC or at least later gen ports, this isn't one of 'em
The main issue is that John has NPC interactions based on his fame and honour.
Jack doesn't have that and NPCs will largely ignore you.
>rockstar ports RDR to PC
>rockstar doesn't port gta v to PC
a much better reality that would've been
>>340369509
>tfw online poker is paid dlc
>>340362554
That's your average mexican Freedom fighter
>>340369509
>tfw no one to play races
One question for /v/. What did you do in that final Dead Eye moment? Did you take as many of them with you as you could?
>>340377331
on my first playthrough i knew what was happening but i tired to shoot them all anyway.
These days idk i just let them shoot me.
>>340359787
Love and Freedom
>My face when it's almost immediately apparent you've made Mexico a worse place
Those fucking Wolves ruined my favorite Inn.
>>340377693
Speaking of Mexico and wolves
>mfw I killed at least two dozen wolves one time in Mexico
Those fuckers just kept on coming
>>340365403
Oh man that mission
"She was just a whore!"
"As you say, she was just a whore..." as John reaches for his gun
First time I legit wanted to kill someone in a game and i think one of the few people John legit wanted to kill
I think it's stupid that Jack inherits John's fame and honor
>>340356086
>>340356134
But the game is balanced for autoaim, guns dont do lots of damage and controllers are too innacurate to make up for it. Same problem with GTAV
>>340370395
>no option to leave your family and run away with Bonnie
Shit game.
>>340378865
>John spends the whole game bitching about wanting to see his family again
>throws it all away at the end to sleep with some fine piece of western ass
>not going the threesome route by plowing both Bonnie and Abigaile
>>340378865
But then you wouldn't be the man she loved, anon.
>>340359979
>/pol/ DLC
noice
>>340347472
Best Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms5a_C7EeNk
P-PC release when?
Cool spic, frog, whatever.
>>340379831
Never, probably because, at least according to personal lawsuit rumors about the one rockstar is undergoing right now, Red Deads development was a clusterfuck and had to be salvaged at the last minute. They barely scraped it out the door, which is why no pc version ever manifested
>>340377331
i love that if they had actually let you fight that fight out you would have made it out of there alive.
that being said, john aint one to go down with a gun full of lead
>>340359016
Chances are you would not become a John Marston but a random NPC whose job is to shovel pig manure all day so it's not a big loss.
>>340378018
That wouldn't have happened if we had a wall.
>>340363048
>seth got rich
>marshall johnson retired
>reyes became a tyrant
you forgot..
>Irish accidently kills himself
>>340376669
wasn't that one free?
>>340356682
So do I.
But that kid ran down a cephalepoid, on foot.
Boss, that's got to be tough enough.
Post yfw RDR3 gets announced at E3
Never got over that piece of shit kid being a dick to my horse
>>340385263
I would literally cum buckets
RDR is one of my favorite games, I want it so fucking hard
Dunno if R* will do it justice, but we'll see
I liked how if you didn't finish the stranger missions you could with Jack (or atleast most) and there was new dialogue about how long they've been waiting, and why you look different.
>>340347472
Whatever, I just used the cheat to play as John anyway. I'd already practically 100%'d the game anyway and besides, cheats disable saving...you've beaten the game already so it doesn't matter.
It's a win win, Rockstar covered all angles, spot on, seeya later.
WORK YA DAMN NAG
>>340377693
>it's almost immediately apparent you've made Mexico a worse place
Just like the real life Mexican Revolution
>>340353287
>This part
I think it's the only game I've played that made me shed manly tears.
Not (COMPLETELY) tears of sadness.
But tears of respect, for a man, who had a hard life, and just wanted peace, a blissful peace for him and his family.
A well deserved peace.
And he fought for said peace to the end.
Even though he could have run.
He fought.
>And you're not gonna take, what they've
>Got to give
>And you're not gonna let 'em, take your
>Will to live
>Because they've taken enough
>And you've given them all you can give
>And luck won't save them tonight
>They've given you a reason to fight;_;
is the ps3 multiplayer for this still dead as a doorknob? I remember it being really fun but I doubt there's anyone left
this game was okay. it was like, someone took gta 4 and removed all the cars with the two stock taxis. but it was still okay. the 15 fps during any action was balls. i dont think it was worth borrowing a ps for tho
>>340364496
I'm pretty sure he was there. When you try to aim at him or Ross the reticule is grayed out.
>>340347472
DELETE THIS
>>340390917
Nothing hut hackers
>>340390937
360 version is best
Wait till BC comes to the Xbone
>>340348636
>It was cool that there was dialogue for doing every possible sidequest as him. Sometimes with their being different if you started it as john and finished it as him.
WOT
goddamnit have to go play it AGAIN
