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We agree?
nah
No.
>>340304287
5 is better in every way possible.
We disagree.
>>340304287
Wrong
>>340304287
nope
eat shit nerd
>>340304287
GTA IV driving > GTA V driving
All else GTA V > GTA IV
>>340304381
>>340304387
>>340304416
>>340304452
>>340304516
Awew.
How about some facts?
>>340304287
Obligatory: https://youtu.be/GWVtZJo-HqI
I agree.
>>340304535
lol fucking lol
>>340304287
hard to compare the two actually each had there flaws
>>340304535
This. It's so natural. It would be fucking sweet if the cars were actually exotic.
Of course, everyone know the second to last GTA is always the best. Can't wait for GTA 6 so I can finally start having fun with 5.
>>340304287
Hell no. Take off your fucking nostalgia goggles
4 was good but severely overrated
5 is better but multilayer is too autistic
fuck no
>IV
>boring pallete
>repetitive missions
>3 islands that feel literally the same
>muh serious story
>no planes or different vehicles
>V
>colorfull pallete
>fun crazy missions
>1 island that has different atmospheres
>story doesn't matter, it's just an excuse to get fun
>shit ton of vehicles>fun
>>340304540
Webm, btw.
IV just isn't very good.
>>340304540
"Facts"
Top kek
>>340304719
The driving in GTA V is fucking dogshit babby tier that holds your hand. Not to mention the damage physics for a player occupied vehicle make it forgiving as hell. Oh yeah and if you roll your vehicle over just hold left or right until it magically flips back over.
>>340304535
cars are not boats
you should leave basement and drive a real car sometimes
>>340304960
Yes, those are all truth.
>>340305049
What's that?
>>340304907
Yeah that parkour sure is realistic
Get off this board
>>340305049
>taking corners at 120mph in GTA V
>no problem
>hit a wall going top speed
>fender scratch
>flip vehicle
>hold left until it flips back over
Yikes.
>>340305157
This is a GTA, the goal nor the qualities of the game reside in realism
>>340305157
>realistic
>video games
At least the mechanic exists.
>>340305120
Copy pasting green text isn't facts normie
>>340305049
I'll take ''boats'' over featherlight RC toys with perfect handling any time.
>>340305315
>doesn't even read it
>>340304985
>IV
>takes a year and a half to move that fucking car
>turns like shit
>V
>fast and fun
just fuck off and play a simulator, don't ruin the fun to others
>>340304540
>all the other little stuff
Hilarious, I love when people pull shit like this.
>I HATE this game because (incoming CONFIRMED FAX)
>Fax 1
>Fax 2
>Fax 3
>and uh uh all the other stuff yeah
>>340305303
Idiots complain about driving in a video game
And about jumping onto fictional buildings
Go bowling with Roman
>>340305315
Literally every single thing he pointed out is a fact you fucking retard, have you even played V?
>>340305414
Already played both games
It's garbage like your opinions
>>340305473
>and uh uh all the other stuff yeah
That's because there's a lot of really small things that honestly aren't really worth bloating a list with. Like shooting guns out of hands.
>>340305485
How does it being a video game justify the terrible 1999 arcade tier driving physics? Kill yourself for using this non-argument unironically
>>340305515
I fucking played it autist
Sure it has some fucking problems but it's still miles better than riding around in fucking liberty city
Muh driving
Muh dark story
Get sunlight
>>340305465
Nah you should fuck off m8. GTA IV driving it was challenging to maneuver through traffic and take turns to beat people. You had to be careful not total your car. It's far from a simulator but it's much more fun and rewarding.
Sorry your a dumbass millennial that needs your hand held in every fucking game, and prefers to have all challenge removed from everything in your life.
>>340305606
>>340304548
>literally cherrypicking :the channel and he doesn't even deny it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbkXffa85E
>>340305830
Not an argument, kill yourself
>>340305892
How is it cherrypicking, but modded-in interiors over here isn't?
All those things the post lists are base gameplay, what happens throughout the experience. Some sliding on hoods and standing on vehicles doesn't make up for the core gameplay being made remedial.
>>340304535
>grand theft AUTO IV
>cars have more "realistic" handling
>they're not fun to drive at all
It's a fucking game where you steal cars, kill hookers and start car chases. The driving doesn't need to be realistic, but it should be fun.
>>340305786
I can't believe you fell for the terrible driving meme
Kys>>340306019
>>340305830
Muh opinions
>>340305786
1999 had better driving physics than GTA V. Driver 2 was tight.
>>340304535
You are correct. Only shitters hate driving in IV. It's so much fun to actually drive well in that game. V's driving is piss easy and boring.
I agree
>>340306182
It was more fun for me and a lot of people when the vehicles you drove/stole took a little bit of skill to use. Since when did challenging =/= not fun? Where did all of these fucking children come from? Oh yeah it's fucking /v/.
Gta 4 had mediocre driving
Not terrible though
I think that everyone just shits on V bc it's the newest version
VI need to marry the best parts of IV and V
>>340304287
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
>>340304535
SA driving > V driving > IV driving
SA movement and melee (unarmed or melee weapons) combat > IV and V movement and melee (unarmed or melee weapons) combat
All else V > SA > IV
>>340306718
I'm not shitting on V. I actually really like it. I just preferred the driving physics in IV. It was fun as hell to me trying to get away from the cops in a sedan, and rear ending someone only for your front wheels to get jammed in the wheel well making it even more difficult to get away. It had a lot more challenge.
Now it's just take your 1 million dollar exotic up the side of a mountain at 200mph with no penalty. It's just easy to drive, and not as fun to me. That's my opinion take it or leave it.
No shit
Driving fast felt riskly in GTA IV. You knew steering incorrectly would lead to a crash. That's why it was exciting and fun.
Steering in GTA V is so easy that it just feels like drawing a line on the map. There's no physics or anything.
I replayed IV after V and it was not nostalgia goggles. Driving in IV was much more fun.
>>340306083
>modded-in interiors
>modded-in
>unlock a door
>WHOA HOLY SHIT HE JUST MODDED THIS /ENTIRE/ INTERIOR IN!!!!!!
>>340304548
Honestly IV's physics engine was insanely good. I don't know why they didn't just recreate that for V.
>>340307008
IV has better melee IIRC than SA.
>>340304287
Yes. I can forgive IV not having as much content as SA because it was made in a new engine and they pretty much nailed down the physics, the shooting and driving. But V is both lacking in content and has terrible gameplay.
>>340306732
VI is just gonna be V-2
With more GTA Online bullshit
>>340307285
>can't access it without mods
>not modded-in
>>340306590
Since when was gta about the challenge? It's about fucking around in cars and doing stupid shit. That's why it got so huge in the first place. Was driving challenging in Vice City or San Andreas? No. Did anyone complain? No.
Fuck off back to your challenging though guy games, you fucking autist.
>>340304287
Eh, I like GTA V atmosphere better.
>>340307461
Since when are videogames not about challenge and something to improve on so the gameplay doesn't get stale?
We need the:
Spirit of GTA IV
Soul of SA
Creativity of V
yay
>>340306083
>How is it cherrypicking
Because he specifically picks clips of minute details that were "better" in one game, just like the response video does.
>but modded-in interiors over here isn't?
What?
> the post lists
My post was in response to the video, not that post full of "facts". Really hard to take the post seriously when it lists the gunplay as a negative when that was one of the biggest improvements from IV to V.
The rest of it is just doing exactly what the videos did, listing perceived negatives and ignoring the the new positives. There was tons of small detail trade-offs from IV to V. Cops may appear dumber as NPCs, but in pursuit and combat they behave alot better than in IV. There might be a missing counter-animation in V but some people had more fun doing the running worldstar nigger punch to random peds than they ever did with the melee in IV.
Literally none of the criticisms in either video or post are what constitutes a good GTA game. It should be judged on mission/gameplay/atmospheric variety, and how fun it is to play over all.
>>340307461
SA had the potential for gitting gud at drifting. That's why nobody complained.
>>340307649
So, all the improved engine mechanics of IV, the RPG gameplay and roleplay of SA (including ped interaction and gambling), and .. yoga?
>>340307613
Since 2007
4 had better multiplayer easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
People shouldnt post if they dont have a clue what they are talking about.
>>340306870
>gunplay is improved in literally every way
>but you can't shoot weapons out of someone's hand
WTFFFF V'S GUNPLAY IS SOOO MUCH WORSE THAN IV.
I LITERALLY DO NOTHING BUT SHOOT GUNS OUT OF PEOPLE'S HANDS
>>340307793
Yes and yoga though i tried to lean towards more the colorful flavor of gta v.
>>340307951
People shouldn't post if they haven't read the fucking thread.
It's ~70 posts dude.
>>340305892
>>340304548
The viewcount and likebar on each video should give you faggots a way of understanding, which is better and more liked.
GTA IV by far.
>tfw you replay 4 and remember that the shitty character movement was introduced in 5
Uninstalled them both now. Once open world cop killing simulators stop being fun that's it, you're playing Dwarf Fortress and JRPGs forever
>>340307919
True dat. Free roam was a bit aimless though.
Fuck sake.
Combine all goods things of all games.
There you go , no fun , no argument.
I never really got into GTA 4
Sure the driving was more of a challenge but that doesn't mean it's fun nor does it mean that the rest of the game was
It was a good game for sure but I thought V was better. The driving is bad thing is a meme It's not perfect but much better than the driving in gta 4. 4 had some awesome mission but very few and far between
>>340307770
A game is based on its core gameplay, which in GTA is gunplay (including a crouch), cops, mobility, melee, and driving. That's what the post and video engages, and that's why IV is a better base game experience.
>>340308269
The environment wasn't as choicey and as ranging as GTA V, thats my critique.
My problem GTAV never built on from GTAIV. They threw all the elements of what made GTAIV unique and went for the easier route to copy most elements from previous games. They took a step forward but two steps back. I prefer GTAIV over GTAV but by no means is GTAV a bad game.
>>340308116
I can't tell if this is serious or bait. I want to believe it's bait but the youtube generation is real and they have invaded this board so it could very well be genuine. In which case, kill yourself you retarded autist.
V is better
But i still love EfLC
>>340308269
If you go by core gameplay, V wins 10/10 times
>>340307963
It's not improved. For consoles, it's still literal auto-aim; and the gun sounds are weak as fug, and there's no recoil or impact.
>>340308130
>>340308728
What a rebuttal to all the points made in that reply line..
>>340308116
>I judge all my opinions on the YouTube views/likes
Here's a game I think you would be interested in
Can someone post a webm of gta 4 and 5 driving side by side
Reckless driving in cars, running over and ragdolling peds, blowing shit up, generally causing mayhem for fun , IV>>>>>>V
OP BTFO
>>340307770
>peds aggro on you just by standing near them
>peds die in one punch
>fighting is extremely simple and consists of mashing dodge for counter attacks as opposed to IV were you had to time it right
>only one animation for said counter attacks as opposed to IV's many
>can't injure peds without killing them unlike in IV, they either get up and continue running or do that same animation where they agonize on the ground and die (or the last stand where they shoot you while they're on the ground before dying in the case of armed NPCs, again scripted and only has one animation)
>the way NPCs in V barely flinch when getting shot
And that's just the first 3 minutes. How is any of this cherrypicking?
>>340308871
Wow nice comeback core game play is superior in 5
Better driving, missions, sidequests, gunplay
Simple you retard
What I missed the most was the more creative environments of the older titles. If they were to make another GTA, I'd love for them to return to an environment like Vice City, or maybe even London like the old GTA 1 expansion. Even GTA 4's cityscape was more stimulating then GTA 5's flat and boring environment.
Cops in V are objectively unfair and cheap bullshit.
>>340309123
Nope, IV's gameplay is better in every single way, aside from maybe the cover system, but you don't need that when you can actually crouch
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
>>340306182
exactly. GTA V driving is close to Saints Row driving. It's not fun when you just drive to a corner 200/kmh, press left, a little bit of handbrake and do a 90 degree turn
>>340304535
lolwtf? The GTA IV driving was infamously terrible.
>V will never EVER have it's own swingset glitch
>>340309284
Time to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qUJc20yu28
Keep in mind that none of these issues have been fixed by the next gen/PC versions
>>340309413
4 is only better in the melee aspect and some parts of the story really nothing else
The crouching in 4 really provides nothing of note. Way more to do in 5 and the environment wasn't bland
>>340308116
>>340309679
>The crouching in 4 really provides nothing of note
That's your average V fan right here
>>340304287
Both are trash
Lemme post the best rockstar game instead
>>340307461
>he doesn't remember the trains
https://youtu.be/hdswQ_kQ_ME?t=99
>>340309284
Nice escape, Anon, it'd be a shame if 5 cop cars spawned on every single route ahead of you.
I though 4 had a better story while 5 had better mechanics. Driving was world's better in 4. The driving in 5 is like an arcade simulation and your car's don't even take damage when you ran things head on. 5 should have had a free mode like gta 4.
>>340309978
>posts the most overrated trash rockstar game
>>340310036
>the cops are actually aliens
>no tuning
into the trash
>>340309646
What time is the part about the police AI?
I've watched ~3 minutes of this and have only seen him kill witnesses, run over a body, flip his car, having a truck appear in front of him (lol ps3) and spaz out when someone calls him on the phone while he is driving.
I'm not watching 35 minutes of this shit.
>>340309646
These are all valid concerns from what I've seen so far but fuck is this spergy
>>340310243
>no gambling, roleplay mechanics, parkour, decent melee, non- RC car driving, or crouch
Into the trash.
>>340304287
No.
>>340310418
About 24m.
>>340310418
17 minutes in
>>340310623
>GTA IV
>roleplay
>>340310623
more like no gimmkshit
>>340310720
>being chased by police
>they try and PIT you and get in your way to stop you
I don't see the problem, in a lot of cases the police are successful in making you crash
GTA IV was boring
GTA V was fun
That's about it for me
>>340309978
my nigga
Where are the mods to give GTA V the combat of GTA IV?
>>340310843
He's talking about SA
>>340310843
That post wasn't about IV specifically, just that V doesn't have anything mainstay from previous iterations.
>>340310875
Experiences? In a sandbox?
>>340310418
>driving away from cops
>in what should be the fastest car in the game
>cop behind me uses some bullshit magic turboboost to ram my ass
>cops materialize out of thin air 60 m ahead
>NPC drivers decide the best course of action when a a maniac is approaching is to swerve and get in their way, because apparently every single NPC is a secret cop that has to try and fuck you up
>also cops know your exact location even if you're in the middle of the desert miles away from anywhere and will converge on you 20 seconds after you do anything
that's how retarded the police is in this game
>>340308269
A crouch doesn't make better gunplay. The flow of movement and aiming does. The cover function eliminates the need for a crouch, and the rest of the gunplay is far better than IV. They had MP3 to take notes from for fucks sake.
>>340308269
>gunplay
Which is undeniably better in V, I mean you can't even come up with a better criticism than "there's no crouch!"
>cops
Yeah because standing around bumping into police and seeing how they respond is what matters, not the act of actually fighting and evading them (which we've already expressed is better in V).
>mobility
In a series built on stealing vehicles, I'd say having a greater variety of vehicles and terrains would score higher on the mobility rating than jumping on obscure ledges and tripping down staircases because of lolragdolls.
>melee
Which is functionally the same barring the missing highkick counter and the fact that people don't ragdoll around like stumbling drunks when you suckerpunch them.
Again, the worldstar punch is both more fun and more GTA-like than any of the melee in GTA IV.
>driving
This is literally the only significant talking point. GTAIV was the first and only GTA game to have non-arcadey driving, and it was also the only one to be so divisive. Some people liked it, some people hated it, whereas nobody ever complained about driving in a GTA before. So saying it's better objectively simply doesn't work. They went back to the classic arcadey driving for V, so clearly more people liked it that way.
>IV is a better base game experience
It was critically panned for a lack of diversity in content, mission variety, and gameplay elements? Why do you think RDR got so much praise? They learned from their mistakes in IV and gave you more mission variety than "drive here, shoot this guy, then drive here". V further improved on this, having tons of variety in every aspect of the game, which is why it's a better GTA game, and a better game openworld game overall.
>>340310623
GTAIV
>no gambling
>roleplay mechanics
>no decent melee
>non- RC car driving
>driving suck ass
Hey it's not a bad game but it's not as good as GTA SA or GTAV
>>340310925
>car bumps you from behind
>your front wheels gain sentience and decide to turn even with no input from the driver
>totally realistic, absolutely not some cheap bullshit intended to make your life hell
GTAIV had too many dissonant parts.
"Mah brutha Roman, we need money!"
Meanwhile I have like, two million in the bank and multiple owned homes and tons of robbed cars. All of which can't be spent or used for anything since everything is static and there is nothing to use money on in the game.
>>340310925
They don't try to pit the player though, really. See https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28?t=29m9s. It's preceded by explaining that the cops don't try that on ordinary vehicles, but they just bump the car and the wheels artificially turn 100%.
>>340311058
I remember I was playing the online mission where you have to blow up a bunch of cars while keeping a yellow Banshee safe. I took the Banshee, put sticky bombs on the other cars, then drove to that tunnel you drive through in the jewelry store heist. I triggered the bombs in the tunnel, and when I got the wanted level, the cops, rather than converge on the explosion site a few miles away, converged on the tunnel I was in instead. It was total bullshit.
>>340311058
>cop behind me uses some bullshit magic turboboost to ram my ass
This literally never happens. If it does than your car is shitty and not "the fastest car in the game".
>cops materialize out of thin air 60 m ahead
Again, this just doesn't happen. Stop lying or provide proof.
>NPC drivers decide the best course of action when a a maniac is approaching is to swerve and get in their way, because apparently every single NPC is a secret cop that has to try and fuck you up
I'll give you that one. This is also pissed me off both in V and IV.
>also cops know your exact location even if you're in the middle of the desert miles away from anywhere and will converge on you 20 seconds after you do anything
IIRC they patched this somewhat recently.
>>340304887
>fun crazy missions
Boy, I sure do love stacking cargo crates and yoga.
Most of IV's missions were free-form shootouts , and that was great because it had the best shooting in the series.
Missions like the date with French Tom and the bank heist were great also.
>>340309108
>eds aggro on you just by standing near them
Depends on the character you use, the area you use them in, and what you say to the peds.
Micheal standing around Franklins SHOULD get him accosted by a pack of negroes. Same with standing around cops seeing as he's a known criminal.
>peds die in one punch
Only if you suckerpunch them. Pretty easy to get knocked out when you aren't expecting it.
>IV were you had to time it right
Don't kid yourself, the melee is a mashfest in both games.
>opposed to IV's many
IV had 3, V has 2. I can see a immigrant slav having some kickboxing training, but any of Vs protags throwing a high kick wouldn't be right.
>can't injure peds without killing them unlike in IV
Yeah, how NPCs react to bullets was better in IV.
>How is any of this cherrypicking
Because it ignores everything V does better while offering very little actual criticism in it's own right, and then goes on to claim the entire game is better because of it. Just watch the other video and continue reading the thread, this has all been explained in great detail.
what a sad guy
>>340307649
Correction:
Vice City + IV's shooting and physics +SA's RPG elements
>>340304287
Yep.
>can't parkour
>can't jump onto stuff
>can't enter most buildings
>>340312450
You can't enter most buildings in 4, though you can enter a handful. It's just that in 5 you can't go in any.
>>340312373
I would absolutely love the fuck out of this game.
>>340312373
>IV's shooting
dense nigger.
>>340312373
IV's shooting mechanics are a fucking step back from SA. Stop with your delusion.
>>340312881I know this is a pleb opinion, but I actually liked GTA IV's simple but shitty shooting.
>>340304535
Fucking ridiculous. Of course there are those "u just suck at it lol" jackasses like >>340306430, but I got good at it and still hated it.
>It's so much fun to actually drive well in that game. V's driving is piss easy and boring.
Hey moron: driving in real life is piss easy. It shouldn't have to be anything less in a game.
>>340305473
/v/ in one post
>>340304287
Yes. V is the worst GTA.
>Police actually try to PIT maneuver you but only if you're in a bus band they've failed 10 times to swerve you with the auto steering that doesn't work in a bus.
>>340313325
>>>/gtaforums/
>>340304287
I agree.
>>340313162
>a step back
In IV you're able to:
>Target individual limbs
>perform pistol whips
>shoot weapons out of the enemy's hands
>perform combat rolls
How is that worse than SA?
>>340311119
>gunplay
Another problem with it besides the lack of a crouch button is that you can't really peek around the corner in GTA 5 without exiting the cover you're in most of the time. And even if you can, you can't move the reticle around while peeking, which means you have to exit the cover in order to position a shot, and when fighting multiple NOOSE agents, this will likely spell your death. Also, the drive-by camera in 5 is quite stiff, the guns, especially the Micro SMG, don't fire at seemingly random intervals, and the reticle in general is just shit with GTA 5's lighting.
>cops
Literally the only way to survive against the police in 5 past a three star wanted level is to camp in a place where the helicopter gunners can't kill you with their pinpoint accuracy and high-powered light machine guns, wait for the cops to show up, peek out of cover and shoot them, rinse and repeat. Or, take a supercar and drive around the city, better have that 100% armor upgrade first, and hope the NOOSE SUV doesn't spawn in front of you, crash into you, and kill you in 5 seconds. Does that sound fun to you. In GTA 4, you could survive for quite a while by just running and gunning through the streets.
>mobility
5 has more vehicles, so I guess I can give you that.
>melee
You basically stated that GTA 4 has more melee options, great. Also, I found the spin punches and roundhouse kicks of 4 more fun.
>IV was critically panned
Now I know you're bullshitting. Right now, 4 is the third highest rated game on metacritic, and also the highest rated game for both the PS3 and Xbox 360. Clearly a lot of people liked it.
>>340304287
GTA IV is not a good GTA game, I'm sorry if you disagree
I like sleeping dogs more than both
>>340313559
I'm talking about the clunky movement not euphoria physics.
>>340311904
Don't try to justify the shitty AI with realism, which still doesn't make sense because it happens with Michael even at the start of the game
>Don't kid yourself, the melee is a mashfest in both games
If you mash the button Niko will take the guard stance where he covers his face with his fists and you'll just take reduced damage, to get the actual counter attack you have to time it right
>Only if you suckerpunch them
They always die in one hit if they're not in the fighting stance, you can literally kill people with a single bitch slap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqbwxi1nHR0
>any of Vs protags throwing a high kick wouldn't be right
But all three fighting exactly the same and all doing that same, one counter attack makes sense? Again, realism ins't necessarily good thing
>Just watch the other video and continue reading the thread, this has all been explained in great detail
Already did, and it's a joke compared to the IV video, V may have a bigger playground with more toys to play with but that doesn't matter when the core of the game sucks. Also, link me to the posts that explain how V is better
No, I like V more.
>>340311904
Can't add anything to the debate, but I personally had much more fun playing IV.
Tried playin V with an open mind, and i just got bored midway through.
I know why, and I can't list the exact reasons, and I don't see the point in arguing which game is better neither of us are going to be convinced otherwise.
Nah. It looks better, runs better (on a relative scale), plays better and has a more engaging storyline.
>>340311>>340313631
>A lot of people liked it
This is literally a human beings argument
Very much so. The graphics and detail in V were amazing, but I prefer most every other aspect of IV.
Loved the car chases in IV when you were wanted. It had a better balance between feeling like you had a chance and that you were also completely fucked if you didn't find another vehicle to jack. Getting out of the car to a new one and escaping a full star wanted level felt great.
V they clearly wanted you to play online with a bunch of faggots.
Fuck yourself. Go back to the mid 00s with your edgy brown and bloom. I welcome back the return of color and humor in games.
>>340304287
GTA 4 was shit
>>340309560
/v/ is filled with contrarian shitters who think bad gameplay design is supposed to make something more complex.
I feel like you have to be a New Yorker to fully appreciate IV. The story was a lot better written, and the characters were a lot more sincere. No one in V felt like a GTA character, Franklij was too boring because he was black and R* bit the whole 'PC' thing, Michael was a dirty rat who should've been the main villain, and I didnt like Trevor's whole 'murder and theft and violence are ok as long as you're not sexist and racist' schtick. R* needs a serious redemption with the GTA series if they ever make a new one that's not an expansion.
>>340304540
>realism is better no exceptions
kill yourself
>Why did they go back to Los Santos?
>Boring City Layout, nothing interesting at all.
>Arcade tier driving physics
>Boring story thats just a bunch of political assassinations
>Boring story that has so much politics crammed I would have thought it was trying to appeal to some hipter internet cafe
>>340304287
Objectively true, so yes.
>>340315926
GTA V is to GTA IV what Saints Row 3 is to Saints Row 2.
GTAV cops were way better than GTAIV cops.
To evade them all you had to do was hide in alleyways and change vehicles like you were actually trying to escape the police.
GTAIV consisted of you driving in a straight line to escape the circle.
>>340307613
Since pong
>>340316570
cop evasion was better in V. Cop detection was horrendous.
>kill someone with a silenced pistol at the top of mount chilliad
>instant wanted level
>cop cars suddenly appear halfway up the mountain
>>340316529
Pls elaborate I've never played shits row.
>>340304287
No
Gta5 is one of the best games I have ever played
Gta 4 was so boring I could not finish it
>>340317581
Saints Row 1 and 2 were kind of similar to GTA. They had a lot of humor in them but they were still relatively serious. Then 3 comes along and it's basically CUHRAZY EPIC AWESOME WHOA DUDE etc. overtop nonsense. It took the crazier parts of 2 and multiplied them. In the same way, GTA V took some of the zanier bits from IV and just went overboard with it making it seep into every facet of the game. GTA V is like a shitty parody of IV. If you know that screencap of an anon describing Borderlands writing that's basically what happened with V. For example Trevor is the embodiment of that ridiculous shit. There's no sense to it.
>>340309978
That's not bully?
>>340304287
Yes. V has a weird vibe to it, a big map full of nothing. It isn't dense. The entire map feels small, bland and empty with 65% of it being mountains and dirt. Story is an interesting part, because although is complete trash in comparison to GTA IV, it does what it wants pretty well and has a lot of likeable characters. GTA V had a lot of potential and probably every great idea was scraped due to last-gen limitations. Physics (what made GTA IV extremely fun) are trash, probably because of consoles again. Shooting is WAAAY better in V (Max Payne 3 had a greater system, but ok. I would actually tell that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V, the only thing that fucks everything is their shit engine and Ubisoft's stubborn attitude on putting the game on the last-gen. Jesus, last-gen really fucked this generation. Anyway, IV makes me sad while playing it (probably due to the atmosphere) and V is pretty neutral in relation to that. But, in the end, IV is greater than V, yes. But V has a different objective of gameplay and pacing. I don't know, both are great games that can't be compared. (Even if I like IV more)
>le "IV is good" meme
>>340311058
>2nd or third mission in the game
>franklin says "you on a cellphone you dumb motha fucka? They gon trace that shit in a second!"
>proceed to use phone rest of game and always have one online
They explain it early on they can trace that shit in a second
>>340304287
Yeh
Except for driving and physics
>>340304287
But some of the heist were pretty cool
>>340304907
>>340304540
This sums it all up nicely.
Though i wont pretend to hate everything
about gta v i just know they could have done alot better with it.
Patricians prefer 4
Plebs that can't justify their shit taste with anything other than >muh boat cars in games say 5
>>340304287
>YOU ONLY HAD TO FOLLOW THE TRAIN CJ! > everyrhing else
>>340304287
I actually really liked 4 when it came out but 5 is much better in almost every way although I think I prefer the atmosphere of Libery City/New York over San Andreas/California, probably because I listen to a lot of East Coast 90's hip hop.
>>340320721
>Patricians prefer 4
>Lying on the internet
>>340322273
>enjoying eating shit
>>340304287
In some ways yes, in other ways no. Gta V had a nicer looking world or whatever that was more fun to explore. But all the systems in 4 were more fun to mess with. 5 also has more cars and guns and customization, but 4 has police and taxi missions that are solid gold, and a better soundtrack with the dopest death metal ever seen in a videogame. Bathory all day.
