>gen 6 was so shit GF is already ditching it for gen 7
How bad will gen 7 be?
Can it be even more casualized and watered down than gen 6?
>>340261147
I'm having a faint light of hope with Sun&Moon, those little details like Rotom being the fucking Pokedex, the QR code stuff, Lillie and Prof Kukui designs, also the protags don't look like shit this time (godammit ORAS Brendan and XY Male MC were awful)
Also the new tropical setting looks like a fresh breath of air in a franchise that's becoming more and more stale
I'm still pirating them btw, won't gonna risk my hard earned money like I did with fucking ORAS
Careful with those memes bro
>>340261147
You are complaining about a game made for 8 year-olds being casualized.
>>340261147
>>gen 6 was so shit GF is already ditching it for gen 7
By that logic, Gen 5 was also shit since it lasted the same amount of time
Gen 5: September 2010 - October 2013
Gen 6: October 2013 - November 2016
3 years and one month for both.
>>340261372
I don't get the hate for ORAS it was better than B&W or D&P
>>340261147
Honestly I'm glad. Know I don't have to fight of the temptation of not buying the first game to simply wait for the improved 3rd.
>>340261615
Not really. It fixed nothing about Hoenn's problems and it wasn't even better than Emerald.
>>340261147
Gen 7 is definitely going to be really really bad, they're just doing everything they can to fuck it up. Hawaii, horrible character designs the most generic fire started I have ever seen, etc.
They can't pull a gen 5 because they're not even trying
This is going to be gen 4 all over again, but with none of the improvements
>>340262132
If the Fire starter isn't Fire/Fighting it can be salvaged.
>>340261917
But it fixed everything wrong with Hoenn
>too much water
Faster surfing and a minimap
>bad pokemon variety
The dex is expanded
>less content than emerald
Objectively false. Tired of this meme.
>>340262353
The lack of battle frontier puts it drastically behind emerald in terms of content you fucking delusional retard.
>>340262353
>faster surfing fixes the 3 water-related HMs meme
>he thinks surfing speed was the problem
>>340262353
Hoenn didn't have too much water. For a water region, you don't spend enough time surfing in ORAS.
I don't need the crappy later gen Pokémon, the first three generation Pokémon are still the best.
Even if you count shit like the Rayquaza story, all of that "extra content" was still worse than the Battle Frontier.
>>340262132
They already ruined the game with megas, don't know how they can fuck up even worse.
>>340261147
I liked ORAS, more than BW and XY.
>>340262132
>dissing gen 4
>the gen that gave us Platinum and HG/SS
Gen 5 was shit until B2W2 redeemed it.
>>340262675
Well I don't think they copied digimon enough yet soo....BURST MEGAS WHEN?
>>340262675
Fusion between trainer and Pokémon, like Ash-Greninja.
>>340262675
>don't know how they can fuck up even worse
Ask and you will receive
>already
it lasted fucking forever
>>340262832
>>340262797
Aren't these pretty much megas anyway?
>>340262832
Not
>ash and you will receive
>we didn't even get a Z
>>340262501
And the presence of online battles trumps anything the gimmick frontier ever offered, dumbass.
>>340262896
Gen 7 had no reason to exist, though.
3DS architecture and online is fine enough for gen 6.
They never bothered making X2Y2 or a third version of it.
They're just ditching this gen already.
>>340263124
Thank god they're ditching gen 6.
I couldn't deal with even more chibi hugemclargehead character designs in the overworld.
>>340263276
Sun Moon is the literal exact same shit.
>>340261550
ikr?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NyDgrFH.png "latest[1].png")
>>340262960
Will ash and greninja be able to hold out against the perfect form zygarde?
Found out next time on pokemon Z!
>Guitar plays
>tfw I bought Y day one, wondertraded and got a bad egg immediately
Farewell Gen 6
>>340263309
Have you even seen the trailer or are you literally blind?
One thing that I liked about ORAS was the Eon Flute mostly due to the fact that it was the beginning of replacing an HM with an item which personally I would like to see more of.
I think they need to remove the EZMODE exp share and instead give you the classic EXP share from Gen 1-5 early on normally and then give you the advanced EXP share from gen 6 in the post game.Just beat ORAS and due to EXP share I had a full team of lv 70+ pokemon by the time I hit the elite four
I liked the anime as fuck ORAS Delta Episode but I beat it in an afternoon, personally I would have really wanted to see a Battle Frontier, I mean they did it in HGSS!
They need to keep dexnav since that was an amazing addition, however, knowing Game Freak they will drop it just like every other great addition to these games that they leave behind
I do find it odd though that they are completely dropping out of Gen 6 without releasing a Z version though.
>>340263384
He looks pretty bro-tier for a legendary
>>340263115
I can play on pokemon showdown if i want online battles you stupid mongoloid.
>>340263654
>XY babbies think this is a well designed Pokémon
>>340263508
Agree about the HM replacement and EXP Share. You get EXP so early into the game there is no point in really starting with low levels and swapping with high levels to level them up faster. Or going to early zones to level up.
They have so many required-to-progress HMs its annoying to need a water pokemon with Waterfall, Dive, and Surf. Someone with Strength and Rocksmash. Someone with Cut and Someone with Fly.
A full on replacement via items or just less fucking level designed built around using HMs. Also, can we get an easy access for them. Surf is really annoying to use sometimes. Surf Y/N->Get off and grab one item. Surf Y/N -> Travel on water till you get off again. All showing that dumb ass animation
>>340263986
>I can just go play a different game
Excellent argument.
Beyond the no Battle Frontier shit (which was fucking lame), ORAS was fantastic. Why do you people even care? Its not like you even play the games or bother with competitive pokemon.
![082Magneton[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/GiLrk54.png "082Magneton[1].png")
>>340264000
>trips
How ironic
>There are like 4 of these "is just a fused version of the starter" in gen 1
>>340264347
>ORAS was fantastic
>>340263508
>I liked the anime as fuck ORAS Delta Episode but I beat it in an afternoon, personally I would have really wanted to see a Battle Frontier, I mean they did it in HGSS!
No, they did it in Platinum and copied it over in HGSS.
>>340261554
Gen 6 had only one set of games, X and Y. Gen 5 had two sets of games, B&W and B2&W2. You don't count remakes as part of the gen. Every gen had at least two sets of games, except 6.
>>340264253
>Using online that will be shut down in a few years and is shit as an argument for more content
Cool story retard. There isnt even 6 on 6 single battle random matchmaking. Its fucking trash.
I completly lost my intrest in gen6 when Nintendo was lazy as fuck and didn't patch new megas for X&Y
>>340264526
Yeah you really proved me wrong bro.
>dexnav
>massive pokedex
>huge amount of secrets and areas to explore
>huge region with diverse routes
>fantastic postgame E4
>strongest postgame rival in the series
>battle resort literally perfect for competitive breeding/hatching/raising with everything right there
I bet your team doesn't even have perfect IVs.
>>340263508
>some people actually liked Delta episode
What the fuck
>>340264645
What a shame that you can't even grasp the core concept of Pokemon--communicating with others. Of course you'd scream "less content" when you can't experience it. I would too if I was in your position.
Guess it can't be helped in your case.
>>340264546
Oh yeah I forgot they also did it in Platinum
But it shows how easily they could transfer that stuff over if they really wanted to...
>>340264139
I understand the whole selecting to use a move thing for Surf and for rock smash. They did make it better for Strength though.
Also, I disagree about making the game less focused on HMs but I do think that a few gyms after getting access to using that HM that they should give you an item alternative
>>340264854
That Deoxys fight was the hypest shit. Having actually gotten one at an event back in junior high, it was fun nostalgia hearing the battle theme again.
Also cute crazy dragon girl with nice battle music.
>>340264854
Me. It was like Sonic Adventure 2.
>>340264918
>But it shows how easily they could transfer that stuff over if they really wanted to...
From what, fucking 4th gen games? They already "transferred" the maison, that was GF's lazy way of providing postgame.
At least the coop battling was fun, and the battle resort was a nice step up, but it was still weak compared to a frontier.
>>340264943
Literally all the girls were lusting after your dick if you were the guy in that game
So many times I was thinking May was going to say I love you or something during it.
I almost felt bad steamrolling her team with a single pokemon due to how my team was 20 levels higher than hers.
Also, Gen 6 had a thing about battling a trainer after beating the elite 4 didn't it...
>>340264918
Platinum Battle frontier kinda sucked though, only the Battle factory was worth anything
>>340265080
>Also, Gen 6 had a thing about battling a trainer after beating the elite 4 didn't it...
I didn't mind it. You guys can jerk off over Emerald all you want (and Emerald is fucking awesome), but holy shit they really improved your rivals in ORAS. Back in RSE, Brendan/May didn't even fucking evolve their starter all the way.
Also ORAS Wally is top tier.
>>340264581
>You don't count remakes as part of the gen. Every gen had at least two sets of games, except 6.
Gameboy had gen 1 and 2 RGBY, GSC
GBA had gen3 RSE
DS had gen 4 and 5 DPPt, BW and BW2
3DS has gen6 XY
I'm confused here
If there is something X/Y did right, it was a battle against a professor.
Wasn't that amazing but its odd they never test your teams compatibility or composition with a battle
>>340265229
Gen 1: Set 1: Red/Green/Blue. Set 2: Yellow.
Gen 2: Set 1: Gold/Silver. Set 2: Crystal.
Gen 3: Set 1: Ruby/Sapphire. Set 2: Emerald.
Gen 4: Set 1: Diamond/Pearl. Set 2: Platinum.
Gen 5: Set 1: Black/White. Set 2: B2/W2.
Gen 6: Set 1: X/Y.
Gen 7: Set 1: Sun/Moon.
They dropped gen 6 early compared to other gens.
>>340265104
I agree that the Platinum Battle Frontier was lacking on some fronts, it needed the sheer variety that was in the Emerald BF.
I mean you had exploration in the pyramid, luck in the Pike, and just good old battling in the tower
There was a bit for everyone.
>>340265179
Gen 6 had some top tier rival personalities. Even in X and Y it is just you crushing Serena's hopes and dreams and ORAS had amazing rivals.The music was also top tier
>>340265229
That's because you're literally retarded.
Gen 1 had R/G/B and then Yellow
Gen 2 had G/S then Crystal
Gen 3 had R/S then Emerald
Gen 4 had D/P then Platinum
Gen 5 had B/W then B2/W2
Gen 6 only has X/Y
>>340263508
>I think they need to remove the EZMODE exp share and instead give you the classic EXP share from Gen 1-5 early on normally and then give you the advanced EXP share from gen 6 in the post game.
Or...you could just not use it. But you call EZMODE and then proceed to use it for the whole game, that's fucking hilarious. Never used it and i was like 7 levels behind the first E4, just like in XY i was 10 levels behind.
>Pokemon's not allowed to be hard because it was never hard
The fact that people defend Gamefreak, the literal laziest of devs, is baffling to me.
>Playing a bit of Y again to see if I'd like it anymore
>It's still boring as fuck, but I noticed something
It really bothers me just how convenient the world is to the player.
Oh wow, you're the 10,001 customer, answer this literal braindead child question and you get a free bike!
Oh hey, you can have this Lucario I guess, did I mention it can Mega evolve? Have fun destroying the rest of the game.
Good thing everyone only has like 2-4 Pokemon and never a max of six, plus they're all shit and have bad movesets, pfft, who needs challenge in an RPG?
>>340267150
While that is a bullshit excuse, "Pokemon needs to be hard because it was never hard" is also really dumb.
/vp/ is that way OP
>>340267360
>every Pokemon game: the post
>>340263309
wow anon, you're really fuckin' stupid
>>340267363
At least the older games had some fucking semblance of challenge in the late game, now you can faceroll everything and not have to worry about using any other Pokemon because your entire team gets EXP.
Gamefreak just needs to put in multiple saves and a hard mode option and people would stop complaining. Even an NG+ mode with randomizers could make the game drastically different.
Is it that time again?Gens: 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 1
>>340267678
>At least the older games had some fucking semblance of challenge in the late game
Hahhahahaha, yeah okay dude. Whatever you choose to believe in.
>now you can faceroll everything and not have to worry about using any other Pokemon because your entire team gets EXP.
Just like i didn't even need a team back then because i could just use my overleveled starter and a lv3 Pidgey to fly around.
>>340267814
I like you,
>>340267814
> 4>3
Nah.
>>340267814
2 is better than 3. Spot on otherwise.
>>340262353
>too much water
ign pls
>>340267150
gen 4 was hard. kinda
>>340268305
>Platinum was hard. kinda
ftfy
DP are just as pathetically easy as any other game.
>>340267814
Seems about right.
>>340262353
The surfing speed wasn't the problem, it was needing more than just Surf on your team. HM dumps are a pain as it is. The dex variety would naturally be expanded, that was expected. Aside from online battles, which are also expected, it didn't have more content.
Gen 3 is my favourite, but ORAS did nothing for me. It felt much smaller and was a lot easier. It was a very basic remake, a lot of us wanted more from it.
>>340267814HGSS>BW2>platinum>emerald>BW>FR/LG>outdated versions.
>>340261147
>How bad will gen 7 be?
don't care
i bought BOTH ruby and Y and they were garbage
>>340267464
>every gen VI Pokemon game: the post
Fixed.
>>340267150
play super mystery dungeon if you want a challenge you colossal faggot
pokemon's battle system is fucking terrible, and the only semblance of challenge comes from RNG and not being high level enough
>>340268542
>listen to a furry talk about pokemon
>get bike for free
>hey do you want this Dratini with a powerful move that shits on every other trainer in the game for free
>Good thing everyone only has like 2-4 Pokemon and never a max of six, plus they're all shit and have bad movesets, pfft, who needs challenge in an RPG?
Yeah, totally not the same.
>>340268305
>>340268356
Platinum gym battles are really fucking tough if you're leveling an entire party of 6.
>>340267150
>WAHHHH game for 4-5 year old are so easy! why wont gamefrak let me be hardcore!?
i admit, a hard mode would not hurt the game but, complaining the game is easy is pathetic
This is just embarrassing.
>>340262675
I still haven't heard anyone give a good objective reason why Mega "ruined" Pokémon.
>copying Digimon
Oh no, temporary super forms. No work of entertainment has ever done that before.
>specific ones are OP
That's not at all a unique feature of Megas, and if you don't believe me you clearly don't remember what Garchomp did to the meta when it debuted.
>bad designs
Because Pokémon designs were airtight before that. A lot of the Megas only make benign visual changes, and a few even improve on the originals.
They add an extra layer of strategy by forcing you to limit yourself to only one "full-power" party member and open up all kinds of possibilities for mind games.
>>340269182
What? That a D/P gym leader is using Gen 1 rock pokemon or that a gym battle has 2 pokemon only?
I never understood why they never get to 4-5 till much later. By 30 minutes into the game the main character is running around with 6.
>>340269182
>>340269182
Yeah, Roark is kind of sad.
>>340264715
>battling on the actual pokemon carts
Autism.
Anyone with the brain to realize that it's a fucking waste to spend the hours raising pokemon uses battle sims where you just plug in some numbers.
>>340269182
i remember carnidos was pushing my shit pretty hard even when i had a water typ with me.
>>340267424
Discussion of Pokémon video games is allowed on /v/, dipshit.
>>340269182
You don't even battle a full team until the champion.
>>340269460
>b-b-buh the new games aren't EASIER DELETE THIIIIS
How will gen VI shitters defend this?
>>340269594
Copying older games makes it easier.
>>340269594
>>340269460
You don't even get to have Gym Leader rematches in ORAS.
What a fucking shit game.
>>340269460
im a stupid or did normal trainers carry less pokemon with them after gen 3? there were so many times you faced of against trainers with 1-3 Pokemon tops and only brought out 4+ pokemon until you reach victory road.
>>340269742
how did you do rematches again in emerald?
>>340269789
And what is this supposed to represent?
You do remember you visit the sky pillar waaay earlier in Emerald for plot purposes, right, dumbfuck?
can we all agree silver is the best rival?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKYVqdVvJRk
>>340269742
Better than Emerald E4
>they don't even get rematches
>the most powerful trainers in the region become weaker than gym leaders
>>340270021
Then bump up the levels when you return, idiot.
>lower levels not only from RS but even from ORAS because "muh plot"
>>340267814
I like you anon, though I would switch Gen 2 with Gen 4.
>>340270318
>Then bump up the levels when you return, idiot.
No Pokemon game does this ever on any location.
>>340268460
Why isn't DP in tier? At least the other games in that tier aren't unbelievely slow and boring.
>>340267814
Gen 5 can't be the best when it gave us this abomination.
>>340270638
Because they at least attempted to have a post game.
>>340270665
>one pokemon design ruins the entire generation of video games
You're pretty retarded, I hope you realise that.
>>340270665
I like it desu, the tumor toad on the other hand
>>340267814
4 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 6 > 3
All other opinions are wrong.
Can someone explain me the appeal of battle frontier or anything post game related? Battling NPCs is like the most boring part of the game.
Your party doesn't even win xp wtf.
>>340274551
It should be a place to test the trainer, not the 6 pokemon you bring.
As in, each floor should give you a random set of Pokemon. Always the same Pokemon each time you get to that floor, so if you lose you know what to expect next time.
>>340274905
I remember using my Pokes in some
>>340261615
It's basically a shitty forced meme /vp/ crapped out
>>340274551
Rewards of special items
Trainer card gets updated so people can see what you've accomplished
Rewards of special pokemon
New challenges
The Battle Frontier for example is insanely difficult and there is nothing more satisfying than beating it.
>>340264526
But they are, though
>>340275795
No. The fact is, it will always be a downgrade from the gen 3 counterparts.
Why?Battle Frontier
>>340276140
No one except a minority of brain dead autists care about a shitty ass version of online
The fact that ORAS completely outsold Emerald, Platinum, and HGSS speaks for itself
>>340275795
>anything I don't agree is a meme
Now THAT'S a top tier meme if I ever saw one.
>>340267678
you could literally blast through gen 1 and 2 as a 6 year old with no idea how to build a team with 1 overlevelled pokemon lol
>>340276235
But only brain dead autists care about competitive pokemon. So like, what's your point?
>>340276289
Actually you can do that in every game.
>>340274551
Battle frontier is the only part of the game that isn't easy as fuck. Even with retarded NPCs you still get nice challenges.
>>340267814
4 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 6 > 1
>>340275954
Meh, everyones hacks items anyways.
Just a waste of time
>>340276386
yeah well they're all easy as shit for 6 year olds to accidentally beat
the hardest thing about pokemon is having enough autism and patience to be a breeder sperg
>>340267814
2 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 4 > 6
>>340276235
Battle Frontier gave you a lot to do after you beat the Pokemon League, in Emerald it essentially had 16 "extra badges"
>Implying cut content is okay for a remake
>>340276502
They made IV breeding and EV training easy as fuck in Gen 6, just get a Talonflame with flame body, pokerus, the power items, a pokemon with sweet scent, and make a 5-6 IV Ditto hold Destiny Knot and you can get an entire team with perfect IVs and EV train them in less than 30 minutes
>>340267814
Every generation is better (technically speaking) than the last one.
But fuck gen 3 srsly.
>>340277029
Just inject bro.
>>340261147
>Can it be even more casualized and watered down than gen 6?
Pokemon has always been casualized af
>>340277225
FR/LG league is actually really tough, and Platinum overall is challenging too.
>inb4 hurr it's easy because I grind
>>340278509
>FR/LG league is actually really tough
If 10 year old retarded me could beat it with no trouble then it's not "really tough"
>>340261550
I don't get this meme. The difficulty in older pokemon games was perfectly fine, you had to use heals or grind every once in a while but they were still fairly easy to complete. Now the latest games didn't even bother to put up a challenge. Since it's obvious that there's a good number of adults playing pokemon games why wouldn't it be fine to complain about the extreme casualization of the franchise?
>>340278996
Your 10 year old overleveled the starter, aka grinding. >>340278509
>n-no, promise, I trained 6 pokemon all together on the same level!
>>340279137
I really did though, it's not like FRLG was my first ever pokemon game. I even got rid of my starter and used a Raticate for most of the playthrough as my main pokemon
>it's a gen 6 hate thread
OH BOY HERE WE GO FUCKERS
>>340276445
This is 100% correct
>>340269392
Requiring player to have 6 leveled Pokemons would make early game very grind intense.
>>340268460
> HGSS being in God tier
A lot of content < Good content
>>340279407
>that's his final rival battle
>b-b-buuuh-buhuhu gen VI ISN'T ANY EASIER THAN PREVIOUS GEEEEENS
>>340279631
Isn't that the whole point in giving EXP Share at the very start of the game?
They're following Level 5's approach of running shit into the ground with shallow yearly releases.
You'd think they'd know better after 20 years in business.
>>340279749
You're right. HGSS belongs in elder god tier.
>>340269460
>Cherrypicking
>>340279091
have you actually played the older games? ive finished red, gold and ruby all recently using only my starter, an HM slave and the box legendary (nidoking in red).
The reason why you think these games were difficult was because you were that 8 year old that the games intended difficulty is aimed for.
when i was young and i played ruby for the first time i remember wiping to steven somany times. in retrospect, it was because i only every used offensive abilites and.
tldr: the games arent easier, you were just younger
>>340280517
How is it cherrypicking when I'm comparing the exact same gym leader on the exact same battle, faggotron?
>>340280612
>I overleveled my starter! lul the game was so easy!
>>340280624
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Define+cherrypicking
>>340261147
I just want them to try and balance singles. Doubles is so boring, each game is over in two - four turns.
>>340280702
yes, and the fact that its easier to do that than it is to train more mons proves my point.
>>340279091
>heals
>grind
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? You can't heal/grind in Pokemon. First, everyone is already at level 100, and healing usually requires a turn/item to do.
>>340280702
>the games werent harder, heres why
>n-no that doesnt count!
>oh ok
youre a special type of dumbass
>>340280612
Some things are definitely far easier though,like capturing legendaries.
>>340279749
and HG/SS has both of those. they're fantastic games
>>340279749
Indeed. Plat and HGSS should be in Elder God.
>>340281205
most legendaries still have a catch rate of 3. some have 45 but those a re usually the box legends from gen4 and onwards
>>340281205
Only the box ones that are required to advance the plot, the regular legendaries still have the same catch rate
>>340280612
>tldr: the games arent easier, you were just younger
See:
>>340279407
>>340269460
>>340269182
>>340268460
I can't believe I fully agree with one of these lists.
HGSS is slightly inferior to the other God Tier games due to not solving all the issues in the originals, but still.
>>340267814
>>340281205
>like capturing legendaries.
>far easier
Well memed, Gaylord.
>>340281476
>Black better than Black 2
Kll yourself
>>340269460
Reminder that Sturdy got buffed so that Geodude will always get one move off. That is one more move than both of her Geodudes in RSE.
>>340267814
It's not really fair to grade gen 1 against the others. It was extremely basic and aged like milk. It has not a 5th of the features. It's was really good for the time, but is horrendously dated.
all gens are shit except for the first gen. they literally have car keys pokemon and chandelier pokemon now.
>>340263986
i can play emerald if i want the battle frontier then
It's getting too hard to catch 'em all now, there's like 900 of them now or some shit when Sun and Moon come out. A fucking far cry from the original 151. Or am I just a filthy casual? GTS makes it a bit easier but god damn.
>>340280612
It's actually a little of both. In terms of the way the regions work, certain ones are absolutely more difficult than others depending on your strategy. Sinnoh jumps from mid 40s to late 50s-60s so if you're running a 6 mon team you're likely in low 40s by the end of victory road which makes the elite four a lot more challenging than they'd otherwise be. Also, Sinnoh is a bit less linear so you're also very likely to get your shit pushed in earlier on if you maintain a 6 mon team full way through than in most other regions which are fairly straightforward.
Comparatively Gen 6 has a more gentle curve and offers more varied options for catching up like with mega evolution and the upgraded exp share which make things that could be challenging far easier.
No pokemon games are inherently all that difficult, but certain ones are better at creating challenging situations than others, generally speaking.
>>340269460
this leader and the second one were always the hardest leaders in the game. you know something was wrong with your game when every leader except the first two were cakewalks.
also the only hard part about ruby and sapphire was the rival battle before mauvile city
>>340281709
I haven't bothered to catch them all in forever, I just catch the new guys and whatever are my old favorites
>>340281554
I was more invested in the firstbecause I enjoyed its story more
>>340280803
That isn't cherrypicking, lad. This is a trend that continues endlessly throughout the game, and I'm not even the guy you were replying to. Here's Brawly.
Machop (l.17) and Makuhita (18) in Ruby and Sapphire
Machop and Meditite (16) and Makuhita (19) in Emerald
Machop (14) and Makuhita (16) in ORAS. The trend of getting easier boss battles in conjunction with faster levelling through the Exp. Share is making the games utterly piss easy, and it isn't an example of cherrypicking at all.
>>340281709
Catching them all is the ultimate autist challenge
>>340281709
It's pretty easy aside from the event legends (which are given out on a fairly standard basis by ninty now so it's nowhere near as bad as gens 1-3), just tedious.
>>340281745
How did you ever have trouble with Roxanne?
All three starters can kill her easily
>>>/vp/
>but this is about the vidya!!!
Thus the "v" in /vp/. It was created as a containment board for /v/ to get the fucking tons of threads out of /v/ and that hasn't changed.
Now go there and don't come back.
>>340281745
>this leader and the second one were always the hardest leaders in the game.
Are you retarded? You could catch a Sableye and Brawly wouldn't be able to touch you, no matter how shit it was.
>>340281447
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Steven_Stone#Pok.C3.A9mon_Omega_Ruby_and_Alpha_Sapphire
>>340281949
Is there a rule? Has the thread been deleted? No?
Then stop playing mini-mod, faggotron.
>>340281793
Reminder that Makuhita had a SPECIAL move in RS. And his Meditite in Emerald can literally be beaten by a level 2 Poochyena.
>>340282083
There's been a fucking rule since /vp/ was created.
>>340281949
>wannabe mods
people like you are worse than the shitposters
>>340281949
Yeah we need more consolewar threads instead of video game threads
>>340281793
>This is a trend that continues endlessly throughout the game,
This isn't true at all.
Also, see >>340281960
>>340282125
Where? I don't see it.
>>340282125
>I r illiterate, pls raep muh faec
>>340281610
>they literally have car keys pokemon and chandelier pokemon now.
So, what's your point?
>>340281960
>sableye
>implying i was playing sapphire
shiggy
>>340281949
I'm sorry your janitor application was rejected. Better luck next year!
>>340261550
>played and beat pokemon red when i was 8 years old
> its being casualized for 8 year old
Now that sure is fucking odd. Maybe its being casualized for dip shit retards, or just girls huh?
>>340265658
>Set 2: Yellow.
That would be Blue version, Yellow was just something they made after that to cash in on the anime.
>>340282478
just enjoy the games. its unhealthy to obsess over something so pointless. if you want a challenge theres games specifically made to be hard
>>340282339
He's in emerald, too.
XY were fine, it's just that ORAS were crappy. Oh wait, it's the most recently released gen so that means it's horseshit.
X and Y had a really good pace going on really early, felt nice and comfy and progressed really slowly. After the 3rd gym (I think, I haven't replayed it since release) it completely lost the good vibes I got from it.
Meanwhile, ORAS was completely inexcusable. It literally had all the problems present in Ruby/Sapphire and X/Y without bothering to fix them, and it felt dumbed down and lacking. In fact, ORAS might be the only Pokemon game I didn't like.
>>340282668
i played ruby baka desu snepai senpai
>>340282740
>XY were fine
In what universe? Because it sure as fuck isn't this one.
>>340282774
Not my fault, fameleon
>>340264349
And they reused this design concept three times at least in recent generation. What's your point? That anon is right, final form zygarde is complete shit design
>>340268460
>hg/ss not in voltorb flip tier
>>340283356
Fuck Voltorb Flip, I hated that game.
Couldn't get past L3.
>>340283154
That's a shitty anime movie only design
>>340283504
after 10 it became a pure rngfest because it felt like every single puzzle had a 50/50 in the end
>>340281554
BW had 10x better characters, visuals, story, and music than B2W2. The only redeeming factor B2W2 has going for it and why everyone circlejerks it is the PWT.
Seriously, how did they go from one of the best male protags to the absolute worst? Nate looks so bad it isn't even funny anymore.
>>340270665
There is a much uglier monkey in the gen before, anon
>>340283864
>10x better music
No way in hell.
Characters and story, sure.
And no, the reason everyone circlejerks it is the greater amount of content and greater replayability due to the amount of pokemon available in any given part of the game. Comparatively, BW1 shelved most of its stuff until 70% of the way through so subsequent runs feel very samey, which really hurts the experience.
XY would have been the best pokemon games if it just
A: Had Battle Frontier
B: Wasn't casualized.
Prove me wrong.
>>340276726
>this battle tower clone only "gives you a lot" if i like it
Okay.
>>340284310
Not what he said, retard.
>>340282318
His point is that Gen 1 was the first, so it's obviously the best, everything it does is beyond reproach, and everything after is horrible evil awful sinful garbage because it's not Gen 1. This is why you see people like him worship Dugtrio, Magneton, Muk, Electrode, and Porygon while demonizing all the Pokemon which are the exact same type of thing in the other six gens.
>>340284572
So basically "it's ok when gen I does it"?
>>340281793
Kill yourself.
>>340284661
Exactly. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
And it's also why they constantly cry and whine about Pokeon being more colorful and having more than four lines, because Gen 1 is how all Pokemon should look because what they say Pokemon should and must be is the law.
>>340284407
>he said
Sure thing, "he".
"He" wouldn't have mentioned "a lot of content to do" in a response mentioning ORAS if "he" wasn't thinking that.
Professor Kukui is best professor ever.
>>340284956
Whatever helps you sleep at night, lad.
>>340284742
Nevermind the megas and level 40s you'll have by now. Keep defending this shit though.
>>340283864
Colress was the best and only good antagonist Pokemon had since gen I. He wasn't comically evil or mentally handicapped. No stupid nonsensical plan to take over / destroy the world. Just a guy who wants to do science.
>>340285930
I had level 40's by then back in R/S/E, too. Nothing changed for me. Stop being such a little bitch.
>>340262773
Honestly I enjoyed both gen 4 and 5 almost equally, but gen 5 is a bit better imo (specifically the first games) because it tried SOMETHING different.
Black/white tried to give the feeling of starting fresh by keeping the story restricted to new mons and trying to give the games some semblance of an actual story.
Black2/White2 broke the normal 3 main game formula, showed us some progression in the world (though the story took a step back), and had tons of in game post game content.
>>340285930
>b-b-b-b-but you have things and are overleveled and blablalbla
Hilarious.
>>340267842
Not the other guy, but gen 6 is easier even without the exp share.
The other games I would at least have to do a little side leveling if I wanted to completely stomp the game.
X I literally went straight from point a to point b the entire game without grinding or using the exp share and wrecked the elite 4 first try.
>>340288757
Sure thing dude. Too bad i can prove you wrong by saying "well i didn't need to do side leveling to stomp the game" and i would still be right because it could have been my experience. For example i replayed Pearl recently and outside the water gym my monkey shat on everything.
Oh and no, leveling a single Pokemon takes even less time than leveling a full team. You don't "have to do a little side leveling if i wanted to completely stomp the game" because it isn't even true.
>and wrecked the elite 4 first try.
Unless you're a mentally damaged -4 year old child, this is the usual for every Pokemon game bar Platinum.
>>340281786
Same here. Doesn't hurt it was the only one to attempt a more in depth story.
>>340289258
Ok, let me clarify then. I normally try to play each pokemon game low level BECAUSE all the games are easy with some grinding.
I play with a full team of 6, and keep all of them the exact same level. I ignore evs ivs and all that jazz since for the story it doesn't matter at all.
Also, I don't swap out mons just for type advantages. I just find six I like and roll with it.
Took me ten tried to beat diamond because my team was 10 levels under the elite 4 when I started and I refused to leave to grind.
So yeah, taking all that into account the fact I could beat X elite 4 without wasting a healing is sad to me.
I am more than willing to admit I play the game in a nonstandard fashion though. And I can definitely see if you keep one mon to wreck house and don't focus on a team things get super easy.
I apologize for not clarifying.
>>340291517
I wasn't attacking you dude, what i meant is that the experience is different for everyone.
I want to clarify that i only played recent-Pearl with a single Pokemon, normally i always use 6 in every game.
I completed ORAS E4 with Pokemon around 10 levels behind(but i already knew their teams since remake, so i had an advantage) and i was behind every E4 from XY.
There might be someone who got all their mons to 80 for it and there could be someone who fought Blue with Pokemon at level 43.
It's always different.
>>340292248
Ah, it's fine. Honestly I thought I was coming off as someone ranting out his ass. That's why I bothered to clarify after I realized everyone plays this game differently.
>>340281476
is it that time again?
>all these new zygarde forms
>these forms being put into a bunch of spinoffs
>a movie is being made about it
>the new anime is called pokemon xy&z
>no pokemon z
When are all the SINNOH CONFIRMED Fags gonna come out?
>>340267814
5> 3> 4> 2> 6> 1
>>340292690
>XY is shit but ORAS somehow isn't
Never got this meme, they're both on the same shit tier.
>>340293034
After how atrocious ORAS was I don't think anyone even wants to see any more Pokemon remakes.
>>340261147
what the fuck are you saying, ORAS were the best Pokémon games so far.
>>340293397
>atrocious
I can't find another better use for this word other than to describe your taste for games
>>340293531
>ORAS
>best
Choose one
>>340287482
>>340286907
Yes, never mind how fucking stupid simple is to level up in ORAS thanks to le exp share + Megas and all the gen 6 shit.
Emerald is still a harder game even with Pokemon one or two levels lower late in the games.
>>340293531
This
>>340293635
That would only make sense if I said that I like ORAS, but I did the opposite of that.
>>340293262
i only slightly enjoyed oras because i like hoenn and the final part with deoxys and rayquaza was awesome
>>340261372
>hard earned money
If you can't make 40 bucks in a day then you are doin something wrong
>>340294071
>If you can't make 40 bucks in a day
I'm sorry contrarian anon, not everybody has a good paying job
>>340294327
>I'm sorry contrarian anon, not everybody has a good paying job
Then get your shit together before spending your time playing pokemon.
>>340294327
Bro what the fuck? Do you work a $7.25 job for like 3 hours a day or some shit? Either ask for a raise or find another job Jesus Christ how do you even live?
>>340294327
You could mow people's lawns for $10 dollars each and have $40 in an hour.
I'm 21 years old and I still do this shit because no one in the South wants to do yardwork in the Summer. There's tons of ways to make small amounts of money fast.
>>340261372
>hard-earned money
>$40
I'm starting my first job ever in September, and I'll be making ~$70/hour.
What are you doing with your life?
>>340268460
Time to play bw2 on my mac :)
>>340295013
Welcome to the USA, where you earn 43 dollars a shift and 1/3 goes to taxes.
>>340295756
>any of that being accurate
>Worked my first day at a new job on Sunday
>Worked for 13 hours
>$43 a shift
>
Are you actually from America friend? It sucks here, but you're doing something wrong if you're only making $43 a shift
>>340262314
It isn't. The water starter is fighting though.
>>340296238
We shall see. People didn't expect Fire/Fighting from Tepig. X/Y had really good types. Except Grass/Fighting
Can this Fighting starter shit fucking die?
UH OH
>>340283504
Someone needs to make a mod of HG/SS and replace the new game corner with the old.
>>340268460
>originals being that low
Only thing I disagree with the list.
Yellow can stay there though.
