>pictures of new company logo/art come out
>tagline "I'll Keep Coming"
>it's a song title on a well liked album of Kojima's
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnrGMHhnqrw
>music is fitting for a Kojima project, definitely fitting for a kojima hills
>original logo art is reminiscent of the album cover
>Ludens looks suspiciously close to Norman Reedus
>Del Toro tweeted a picture of PT a few weeks ago
>Reedus and Del Toro have kept in talks with Kojima
Is it another series of coincidences or is something happening at E3?
>>340260134
>tfw we'll have a wild ride every few years now that Kojimbo is free
Looking forward to this more than the games, 2bh my l a d s
>>340260298
truly the best part, and if nothing else this song is pretty good
>>340260134
Seriously doubt that they will move on with Silent Hills or whatever it would be called without the original IP. At least for now.
But as >>340260298 mentioned, it's good to see Kojimbro free from Konami, and at it again. Genuinely interested in what this dude can do besides Metal Gear.
>>340260498
>Genuinely interested in what this dude can do besides Metal Gear.
You haven't played Snatcher or Zone of the Enders?
get the fuck on it
If they do indeed go ahead making a Silent Hill or some "spiritual successor" then I hope Ito is still involved. I would love to see that guy involved in horror game design.
>Silent Hill on a space station
I never knew I wanted this.
>>340260748
I understand what you meant, but the next time you should specify. Silent Hill's original character designer is Masahiro Ito.
Yeah...I'm all out of hype for anything Kojimbaba does now.
Learned my lesson after MGSV
>>340260892
Didn't think about it when I said that. But yeah, Junji Ito in case anyone was confused.
>>340260134
Silent Hills is ded, you can forget about it. But now Reedus meme actor appearing in the new Kojima game is a huge possibility.
Faintly I'll go
to take this
head on
soon i'll come around
lost and never found
waiting for my words
seen but never heard
buried underground
but i'll keep coming
somethingsomething
dissolve
and make your
heart proud
soon i'll come around
lost and never found
waiting for my words
seen but never heard
buried underground
but i'll keep coming
>People giving a shit about Kojima rise cruises after MGSV
lmao
>>340260134
I think Kojima can suck my fat cock
>given literally 5 years to make a fucking game
>plus 3 years to make and perfect the fox engine
>failed to make a good game, Fox engine wasted
He's already a demon.
>>340260134
>implying the logoman isn't a tranny
>le Kojima ruse meme
Fucking idiot.
That said, I do look forward to what he's working on.
>>340260997
>meme actor
>literally 98% of his acting career is pre-TWD and he was completely unknown by the vast majority of people, even fans of film and television, prior to that
wew lad, daryl dixon might be a meme character but reedus isn't a 'meme actor'.
>>340261150
Purely as a game, MGSV is literally and figuratively better than all the others.
It's storyfags that are butthurt.
>>340260134
CHICO NO PICO!
BRING BACK FUKUSHIMA
>>340261204
>literally 98% of his acting career is pre-TWD and he was completely unknown by the vast majority of people
That's EXACTLY what makes him a meme actor.
>>340261228
>3 copy pasted outposts 100 times around the map
>3 mission types rehashed even for the main missions, let alone all side content
>go loud, go silent, only variability in gameplay
>completely barren empty lifeless world outside of said copy pasted outposts
GREAT GAME
>>340260134
>or is something happening at E3?
No. It's way too early for that.
>>340261320
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>tfw you will live to see another Kojima ruse train
>>340261320
yes, some obscure icelandic band invented the side profile
>>340260134
Why people care, his last good game was 10 years ago
TICKETS!
GET YOUR TICKETS HERE!
>>340261228
no it isn't
>Gameplay is literally a dumbed down Splinter Cell Blacklist, except with even worse cover mechanics
>area is so flat and dead, only 2 areas actually stand out in the entire fucking game and even than its still empty
>Mother Base being garbage
>0 innovation made to the gameplay itself other than rolling around in the dirt
>people honestly care about Kojima after MGS 4 and 5
How? Is it Stockholm syndrome?
>>340261373Eugenics
Perfect man
http://www.personalgenomes.org/
>>340261262
I might actually manage to get hype again if he did this
>Album "0"
>I'll keep coming
>Long Duration Lub Device (Dry)
>use designated tool to remove fastener
Haha
>>340261406
Because its "fun" since he's well known to do absurd stunts with his projects and put weird clues in weird places. /v/ is generally pretty autistic so it caters to our interests.
I mean just look at this guy >>340260298 He's happy just to see a potential Mr Kojima's Wild Ride.
>>340260134
I might be crazy but...
When do you think we'll see a release date? 2017? 2018?
>>340261625
THEY LOOK SO SIMILAR
>>340261320
>>340261625
>Silent Hills meets Metal Gear
>>340261625
not sure if memeing
>>340261228
>take a stealth action game
>put it in a bland, empty open world devoid of the tight level design of its predecessors
>make the game mission-based progression, completely shitting on the pacing of what little story there is
>almost every single mission is the same anyway, even within the main missions
>most of the main missions have little if anything to do with the actual story, clearly padding even though there's even more padding already in the side ops
>helicopter fly-in cutscenes for every mission
>toss in a useless base, completely wasting resources
>make that useless base the crux of a boring, grindy management sim complete with microtransactions
>second half of the game is literally copypasted content from the first half, complete with a 1:1 replay of the hour-long tutorial
>two (2) boss fights, both are shit
>main villain is killed in a glorified QTE which is effectively just a rehash of the end of MGS3's final boss, only done a lot worse
This is not what I wanted from a Metal Gear game.
This is not what a good Metal Gear game should have.
>>340261647
>2017? 2018?
hahaha
2019-2020 at best
>>340261770
and zone of the enders and policenauts and snatchers
>>340261647
probably 2020. now no one can control Kojima :D
People on /v/ will never learn, not even after mgs5
the hype and trailers will far overshadow the game
>I would filter these clowns but I use a highly modded browser that leaves no traces & triple swipe erases any info like cookies and shit
>>340260134
>these eyes of a stoner and oily hair
Kojima really wants to work with Reedus, doesn't he?
It's like he finally made some Hollywood friends and pretends he's a real director.
Kojimbo dont have to money to start with a big one, hire that actor again, get del taco and ito.
He need to start small. Probably a "zone of ender" style. Then he might try to pull a silent hills: fuck Konami edition
>>340261585
>>340261857
>2020
>haha! that's some really unrea...
>remember it's not 2001 anymore
>it's not been 2001 for 15 years
Suddenly 2020 doesn't feel as such a far date, suddenly I feel old.
>>340261892
>Kojima really wants to work with Reedus, doesn't he?
>It's like he finally made some Hollywood friends and pretends he's a real director.
Strangely if you've seen the Reedus interviews, he seems as crazy into it as Kojima, if not more.
>>340261948
>Kojimbo dont have to money to start with a big one, hire that actor again, get del taco and ito.
No way, Sony paid big bucks for him surely.
>>340261625
The mask is shopped. You can clearly see the difference in lighting and colors.
>>340261948
>del toro
>reedus
>ito
They're all good friends with Kojima. A collaboration is likely.
>>340262001
surely
>>340262067
Are you actually retarded? Of course the mask is shopped.
It's from the official promo work, shopped onto Reedus, showing how it's clearly him.
>>340262174
How can you tell it's him by just shopping the mask on him? You can shop it on anyone.
>>340262174
The eyes are shopped in too, right?
>KOJIMA RUSE CRUISE XD
I want this meme to die.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/671098/World-s-first-head-transplant-to-go-ahead-NEXT-YEAR
>>340262280
No, it's just the mask part over his face, that's why people are saying it's him. It's ridiculously close.
all this build up for disappointment
It may be a subtle "fuck you" to Konami, as the project he had with Reedus and Del Toro may still be alive in some form. "I'll keep coming" probably meaning that even after all the bullshit, the project returned and his work will continue with the core concept even if it's not Silent Hills anymore.
>>340261228
It is not. It has some AMAZING possibilities but all of that is wasted.
Mechanically, you're right. As a game, purely as agame you have to progress through and beat, MGSV fails.
Imagine first Asscreed with all the possiblities of letsay AC:Rogue, except Altair is mute and the game ends with Desmond ending the project before reaching Masiyaf for the first time.
It turns into a whole lot of nothing.
wait
that book
>>340260298
I'll never forget when the MGSV wild ride got so wild people actually began to believe Decoy Octopus would be a major component in the MGSV ruse. Truly ridiculous
>>340262557
>SyFi
What the fuck is Sy?
What makes the Kojima fanbase so delusional?
>>340262665
What makes such a vapid retard?
>>340262647
Symbolic Fiction
>>340262557
I CAN'T FIND NOTHING IS ENGLISH ABOUT THIS
FUCK
>>340262665
He's one of the few genuine auteurs and is batshit crazy.
Kojidrones lol
>>340262557
>2014 veröffentlichte Hillenbrand den Science-Fiction-Roman "Drohnenland", einen Krimi, der sich mit Totalüberwachung und Prädiktion auseinandersetzt
Is happening
>>340261204
>literally 98% of his acting career is pre-TWD and he was completely unknown by the vast majority of people, even fans of film and television, prior to that
That's exactly what makes him a meme. Kojima probably watches TWD everyday and thought to himself "hey maybe i can have this guy playing my silly scripts!"
>>340262868
But his last three games have been shit
>>340261228
I can't get over the grinding, lack of boss fights, baby mode AI, and lame level design and repetitive missions
I just can't
>>340262825
Just learn German :^)
>>340262989
This
His last masterpiece was in 2005
>>340263105
Actually Snatcher was his only good game.
>>340263092
My brain is set to english right now
>>340263105
but mgs2 came out in 2001
>>340261320
>>340263258
Jadda Jadda totalitarian surveillance by flying drones, a murder happens, someone manipulates the drones, shit gets real
That's the gist of the book
>>340263147
>>340263105
>>340262989
and Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece?! Fuck off, degenerate haters.
>PT dead forever
T-thanks.
>>340263424
thats pretty fucking weird
Obviously a coincidence, it's not like this has all been some master plan for years.
>>340263424
actually ocelot's nose is longer but quite fitting
>>340263475
Are you okay? You look upset
>>340261150
>fox engine wasted
IDK, I enjoyed that MGS3 Pachinko
>>340260134
Is that Norman Reedus under the mask?
>>340263129
Wait is that figure even in the original PT? I don't remember that
>>340263067
>baby mode AI
V's AI was far smarter and more challenging than in any of the others.
>>340260815
I had an incredibly vivid dream about this years ago. Fuck yes.
>>340260895
>Last 'really good' Kojima games were ZOE2 and MGS3
I've only just realized he's past his prime
>>340263067
>grinding
optional.
>lack of boss fights
there's 11. which is one more than in 2, and the same amount in 3.
>baby mode AI
AI is the most advanced it's ever been.
>lame level design
level design is purposely open to allow you to do whatever you. you chose to do the same thing over and over.
>repetitive missions
debatable.
>>340260815
>>340263974
Wasn't a dream. You probably just played pic related
someone greentext me everything we know of this project ? like what studio, engine, concept and if ito and del taco are collaborating
>>340264116
I want the plat but I can't bring myself to play through it again. It's a long game.
>tfw you can't get over it
>>340264096
>11 bossfights
Wat?
More like 2.
>>340261320
>yfw /v/ is actually right about this
>yfw /v/ was right about that head transplant doctor
>yfw this was all a huge planned ARG
>yfw this is what Kojima meant by MGSV having something that "could only be done with games"
>yfw none of it matters anymore cause Kojima was fired and we're just seeing the remnants of his unfinished plan
If you're one of the shitposters that pretends MGS V is a bad game and the worst Metal Gear game (God forbid you actually think 4 is better), then stop posting in this thread and any others like it immediately.
No one wants to see you fags overhype yourselves all over again only to become insufferable little children when it doesn't reach your retarded expectations again.
>>340264252
11. Peace Walker has the most bosses in the series.
>>340261379
TURN UP THE RADIO
3 > V > 1 > 2 > PW >>>>>>>>>> 4
>>340264379
What does PW have to do with MGSV?
>MGS 5
>Mother Base Destroyed
>Cypher Took Everything He ever made
>Builds another Motherbase
>All For Revenge
>Kojima
>Metal Gear Destroyed
>Konami Took Everything He ever made
>Makes his own Studio
>All for Revenge
>>340264257
He wasn't fired.
The thing that can only be done in video games is a massive morality test on the ethics of keeping nukes versus disarming them in The Phantom Pain.
He set the medium for an unconditional answer to his question by making the player thrive for more content by reducing the quality of everything in the game and then crushing the players' hopes by staging his falling out with Konami.
It's all for his stupid little nukes,
JUST
LIKE
EVERY
OTHER
TIME
>>340264275
4 is definitely the worst game in the series but it's not like V was conclusion we all hoped for.
MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS1 > Peace Walker > MGSV >>>>> MGS4
>>340264439
you said there's no boss fights, which is wrong. i said peace walker has the most in case you were going to respond with "11 isn't enough" because i know you were talking about the first 3.
>>340260134
>>340260815
What was that one game where you were a guy in a spacesuit that was trapped on a moonbase full of ghosts? I can't recall the name.
If this is space horror then that will be neat. Only problem is that his suit seems to be meant for combat; people usually do not want a skull mask as part of their search & rescue uniform.
I predict that the hype around the game, promo material and Kojima will be more fun than the actual game itself. Again.
>>340264601
The person specifically laid these criticisms against MGSV.
>>340264598
3 > 5 > 1 > PW > 4 > 2.
i'm sick of this meme that 2 was any good. it had a worse story than 1, worse characters than 1, but had better graphics and gameplay. by that merit, it's the worst one, since all the other games had better gameplay and characters.
>>340264729
Not that guy. Kill yourself.
>>340264729
>5 above one and two
wew lad
this isn't going to go over well
>>340264729
I'll gran't you that 2 is overrated, sure, but it's far from the worst and definitely not a worse MGS game than V
>>340260636
>Zone of the Enders
Kojima didn't make this game, nor really have anything to do with it aside from giving them money to make it.
>>340264729
2 is the best. I will uphold this until the end of time.
2 is the best.
all you people hating kojima because of mgs5
this next project will come out and you'll suck his dick and pretend like mgs5 never happened
watch
>>340264476
Meanwhile Hideo is working in secret with Konami to build MGS6
>>340264729
put 4 where 1 is, 1 in the where PW is and PW where 4 is and you got a deal
>>340261625
space zombies
>>340264919
This. Been playing the series constantly yearly for like 10+ years and MGS2 is one of the best games of all time let alone the best MGS. 1-3 are all fantastic and even 4 has it's perks and V is a great game but damn seeing people put 2 anywhere below the second spot is absolutely disgusting.
>>340264883
>nor really have anything to do with it aside from giving them money to make it.
He was assistant producer, and was especially asked to join the team. to help out with development. So, you're wrong.
>>340265000
i can respect that. i'd argue 1 is so high simply because of the impact it had on gaming, and how innovative it was, but i can see why you would like 4 more. 4 did a lot of good things, and it's one of my favourite games, but i simply can't put it over 1 or PW.
>>340264096
>>340264252
I'm feeling 11 is a quite generous interpretation here. Is this how you're counting?
-Man on Fire (hospital escape)
-Mist Skulls (Miller rescue mission)
-Mist Skulls (Honeybee mission)
-Quiet fight
-Salenthropus (Huey rescue mission)
-Armor Skulls (caravan mission)
-Man on Fire (Africa)
-Invisible Skulls
-Armor Skulls (airport mission)
-Salenthropus (post Skullface)
-Quiet vs. Tanks fight
The issue here, compared to the other games (and what I disliked about the PW vehicle fights) is that you have no characterization for half of those, and there was a huge cop-out in not actually having a fight against Skull Face.
>>340265136
>to help out with development.
By giving them money and making sure they weren't squandering it. The guy's name is no where in the credits in relation to anything development related.
>>340265096
>Been playing the series constantly yearly for like 10+ years
Either autism or a lie. In both cases that comment doesn't hold any credibility.
>>340264561
What the fuck?
You SERIOUSLY think he cares that much about the nukes?
>>340264924
I enjoyed V, it was fine, though it was definitely unfinished and lacked Peace Walker's polish. I definitely understand why people hate it, though.
I'm honestly just happy Kojima's finally working on a new project, Metal Gear's built up so much baggage and starting fresh is what's needed.
>>340264729
>3, literally THE testament of Kojima's utter ineptitude as a director and writer as the best game.
Face it, Kojimacucks, he got lucky with 1 and 2, but the rest of the series is hilariously tone-deaf and sophomoric.
>>340264883
>>340265217
>Kojima didn't make this game
He didn't direct it, but he produced both of them and chose the director for the second game
And yes, he did help out with development
IGNPS2: What kind of musical tracks will we be hearing? Will the score be interactive, like in MGS2?
Okamura: We took Mr. Kojima's suggestion of using techno-pop. In a normal situation the music is quite calm, but when you encounter an enemy, a couple of tracks are added. Once you're fighting, we add more tracks, and when you're about to be killed, there are even more. When you start defeating robots or escaping from them, we remove a few tracks and change the pitch and volume. The music really conveys the emotion of what's going on.
IGNPS2: Has Kojima-san had much influence into the game's design?
Okamura: Mr. Kojima is the producer. He's created the perfect environment where our team can create the best game we can. Nowadays, he's been giving us a lot of useful hints and tips regarding the actual development of the game.
>>340264561
>He wasn't fired
Yeah, he was "let go".
>The thing that can only be done in video games is a massive morality test on the ethics of keeping nukes versus disarming them in The Phantom Pain
It was something that involved going back to Camp Omega, the nukes didn't.
>He set the medium for an unconditional answer to his question by making the player thrive for more content by reducing the quality of everything in the game and then crushing the players' hopes by staging his falling out with Konami
>It's all for his stupid little nukes
All speculation.
Kojima made very stupid decisions on MGSV, sure.
But it's clear we didn't get the full game for reasons outside his control.
>>340264613
The one by Fromsoft? Echo Night: Beyond.
>>340265232
How is that autism? I play the series yearly and always have been because I grew up with them.
I can't wait for the next bad game that will get a free pass because muh kojima
>>340265096
2 has the worst protagonist in the series, the worst boss fights, the worst story, and the worst characters. it simply isn't the best metal gear solid, but it's not a bad game.
>>340265209
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Man on Fire (controlled by Tretij Rebenok; horseback)
Parasite Unit (Mist)
Quiet
Metal Gear Sahelanthropus (controlled by Tretij Rebenok)
Parasite Unit (Armor)
Man on Fire (controlled by Tretij Rebenok)
Eli
Female Parasite Unit (Camo)
Parasite Unit (Armor)
Metal Gear Sahelanthropus (controlled by Eli and Tretij Rebenok)
Side Ops
Eli
half of those are zombies, their characterization comes in later, it's not much, and that's the point. you don't need a 50 minute monologue to be a boss.
>>340265313
3 is the most well known one, and you all have to do is look at the snake eater meme. everyone knows the joke, even if they didn't play it. 3 is the best one artistically, story-wise, and cinematically. it's the defacto metal gear, no matter how you feel.
>>340265232
He went all out with hooks and he caught himself.
>>340260134
>del toro
>the guy who can't finish his projects to save his life
Why do people like him?
>>340265413
The stupid decisions he made is why the game is bad stop trying to deflect.
>>340264729
1 > 3 > 2 = 4 > V
>B-BUT V IS GOOD, BEING CONTRARIAN MAKES ME SMART!!!
Sure thing kid.
>>340265510
Most people wouldn't consider most of these to be boss fights. Since when is fighting a squad of enemies a boss fight? Is it a boss fight when I get jumped by elite troops in Half Life?
>>340261320
JUST
>>340265510
>worst protagonist
Oh, you're one of those idiots.
>>340265413
One thing I don't see many people talk about is how Kojima was actually fairly committed to getting it out on time. He did a video where he went to some kids house who died from cancer or some shit but he was a huge metal gear fan and his room was decked out in collectibles. He said it motivated him and pushed him to really stick to releasing it on time, he was determined to get the game out. Konami is still fuckers and it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme though.
>>340264613
Soma?
>>340265413
>It was something that involved going back to Camp Omega, the nukes didn't.
Read up more, friend.
He used the very same phrasing.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/18/hideo-kojima-interview-metal-gear-solid-phantom-pain
>>340265563
>Sure thing kid.
opinion discarded. come back when you can formulate opinions without acting juvenile.
>>340265604
>Since when is fighting a squad of enemies a boss fight?
since forever. MGS 1 had 4 boss fights that are groups of enemies, and it was the same group every time.
>>340265530
I never said the game wasn't bad.
Kojima barely left Konami, I doubt he would have something concrete to show at this year's E3. But I think we should look forward to the future, Kojima is a master in trailer making, so it doesn't matter what game he makes the trailer for it will make us all want to play it.
>>340265774
Set pieces are not inherently boss fights. A bunch of FROGs breaking in and needing to be defeated does not constitute a boss fight.
>>340265689
>rooku pureya
>if u wan kampu omega disarmu nukes desu ka
Yeah, nah.
Fuck that broken FOB bullshit.
>>340265613
raiden can't do a single thing on his own without being directed to do it. he's awful, and that's why kojima completely changed him in 4. he is now universally loved.
>>340265514
Pans Labyrinth, Devil's Backbone, Hellboy, Pacific Rim
His works aren't exactly high art but they're still pretty good regardless and the dreamlike quality that his films have would really, really benefit a Silent Hill game if they could be accurately translated into a game as P.T. is a testament to (though I'm not sure how large a role he played in its writing and development).
>>340265689
>He used the very same phrasing
And?
He can't say it twice?
"SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE OUTSIDE VIDEO GAMES, WOW!" is the type of shit people say all the time to get people interested.
>>340265510
Believe what you will and I don't really care since all the games are fantastic but in terms of scope, ideas, execution, narrative, plot progression, character progression, and events MGS2 is the king. It does bold things, has crazy amounts of detail and depth, Ocelot is at his very best in this game, I could go on.
>>340260134
I'm cumming too tbqh.
>>340265909
He can't do a single thing on his own yet he took down dead cell pretty much by himself and killed solidus and 20+ metal gears. Shut the fuck up kid.
>>340265965
>Ocelot is at his very best in this game
i will give you that. he absolutely steals the show in 2 and 4.
>>340265909
I thought he only got really universally loved after he became edgelord rising
>>340265959
You cannot be serious.
We're talking about the same fucker that "submerged" a video game from E3 to release date because he didn't want us to find we're not playing as our husbando.
He clearly and 100% intentionally used the same wording. He never slips shit up, and that's why we never got leaks of how shit TPP would turn out.
I'm overwhelmed with delight thinking of when we get rid of the goddamn nukes and you shit your discount store pants.
>>340260134
He's also been retweeting a lot of stuff about space creatures and odd imagery about human civilization's end coupled with mexican horror.
I must say I was very skeptical on first glance on this mascot/character by Kojima, but I'm starting to come around, but I'll keep expectations in check that it won't be PT successor and that it might be another broke up MGSV.
>>340266180
Why would he mention Camp Omega the first time?
>>340266180
Kojicucks are THIS delusional.
>>340266043
he only killed fatman and solidus. olga saved him for the metal gears.
>>340260134
>>340262557
>>340266182
So what we're getting is a fucked up atmospheric horror Earth with military governments and everyone is forced to wear astronaut suits.
It's from CoD.
How do you browse the internet without knowing the ghost?
>>340264613
Echo Night: Beyond
I really want something like it to be made again. Space + horror is a great mixture.
>>340265427
You got it correct. Wonder if the fancy suit is just a red herring?
>>340265624
Innaspace, not unnerasea.
>>340266397
I just trashed his latest game.
Are you retarded or something??
Even if I acknowledge what he did I don't approve of it one bit
>>340265959
>"SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE OUTSIDE VIDEO GAMES, WOW!" is the type of shit people say all the time to get people interested.He's right you know
>>340262989
I disagree.
>>340261625
>cant have metal gear or silent hill
>so he mixes both together into new ip
GENIUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tSKrQmQoYM
>>340264048
>Not realizing he was past his prime after the mess that was MGS4.
He can make a game with amazing gameplay, but everything else is shit.
>>340264561
Which movie did he steal that idea from?
>>340264561
>thrive for more content
Learn to write, dumb kojicuck.
>>340260134
>I'll keep coming
is it any surprise coming from the guy that calls his characters liquid snake and solid snake, and has a game called snake eater?
>>340265563
>4 is better than V
Any Metal Gear game that isn't Snake's Revenge >>> MGS 4
Right now the favorite thing MGS 4 shitters like saying is that it's at least better than MGS V. Here's three reasons as to why that isn't the case:
>STORY
Both games have fucking horrible stories, but MGS 4 is a far bigger offender not only because the story is more retarded, but also because it was the story that ruined the rest of the series by fucking up characterizations and events from the previous games including Ocelot, the Patriots, The Boss, Zero, Para-Medic, Sigint, Merryl and Eva. MGS V, by comparison, can't ruin what is already ruined beyond repair and merely told its own retarded wacky story that is really not that important to the overall continuity, let alone ruinous to it.
>GAMEPLAY
MGS V has better gameplay by virtue of having any gameplay at all. Whereas 4 has good systems, it doesn't use those systems properly anywhere, there are only two hours worth of core stealth gameplay at the very most and then there are the boss fights (which are admittedly pretty good), stupid action sequences and then of course the "gameplay" by which I mean the cutscenes, codec calls, microwave hall, all of Shadow Moses until the boss fights, all of Act 3 until the boss fight, etc. It doesn't even have fucking VR missions so the only way you can experience any of the gameplay is by playing MGO (Which always was and always will be nothing but a novelty that isn't really that fun to play). By comparison, MGS V also has pretty great systems which you actually get to fucking use while traveling on the open world and accomplishing missions. The mission where you rescue Kaz already accounts for all the stealth gameplay in all of MGS 4 and that's fucking pathetic. "MGS 4 is a movie" is an exaggeration, but it's very much founded in reality.
>GRAPHICS
MGS V looks better not just in polygon count but also in artstyle. 4 was the epitome of brown and/or washed out.
>>340264729
1 = 2 = 3 = PW > 4 & 5
>>340266872
the one that'sintentionally bad
>>340267039
>PW equal to 1 and 3
>PW better than V
>4 not a million times worse than V
Shit rankings, 2bh.
>>340267153
I never played 1 when I was a kid so I only got to play it last year, and although I loved the story the gameplay was dated.
Sorry nostalgiabro, even PW has better gameplay than MGS 1
>>340262557
>no english ver.
JUST
>>340266945
Illiterate as I might be, I *literally* explained everything that's happened surrounding the game in a convenient form, and even presented a most believable motive for the whole thing.
Yeah, I guess him cutting ties with his publisher after 30 years and VP function, along with ending a twentysomething franchise on a lowest of notes, because he was supposedly rushed in five years of development(two for engine, three for game with a quick development engine) is a lot more conventient.
You stupid fuck.
bump for awareness
>>340260134
This man, he never gives up.
The wild ride never ends.
>>340261419
One HYPE Express please.
Too bad Cuntnami have the rights to the FOX Engine.
Would love to see a horror puzzle game.
Stalker meets Silent Hill with the MGS mechanics but not so zoomed out and with a slower pace.
>>340260134
>that intro sound of the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRv55V2BgWg
>another year or two with LE EBIN RUSEMASTER XDDD posters
Stop. Just stop. MGSV was an abomination, the only ruse about it is that some people are still convinced it was a good game.
>>340268472
>people enjoy things I don't. REEEEEEEEE
>>340268472
>abomination
>10/10 everywhere
/v/ in 10 years will be "10/10? i only buy games that are 13.5 out of 6!"
so what happened to the head transplant guy after it turned out he wasnt part of kojimas ruse
>>340268637
I mean I really quite enjoyed MGSV and I believe it's story is highly underrated (not unite the story of MGS2 was after release) but arguing a games quality with review scores is retarded.
>>340260134
What is this kind of music called?
>>340260134
>>340268469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgnJGe4qJgI
this song has clearly connections
>>340268592
You're setting yourself up for dissappointment with your specula on a game with no gameplay or info other that "fans of Uncharted and The Division will feel right at home" and Kojima can't deliver anymore
>b-but Konami
I didn't hear people bitching about Konami until MGSV, but he hasn't been good since MGS3. It sure as hell wasn't all Konami's fault, you're a brain dead fanboy if you believe that narrative Dorito Pope has tried to weave for his buttbuddy. Kojima is just as much at fault for not delivering a good game in nearly a decade.
>>340267153
>4 worse than V
underageb&
>>340268795
>but arguing a games quality with review scores is retarded.
i'm not arguing it's quality with review scores. it's unanimously regarded as one of the best playing video games of all time, and he said it was an abomination. that's like swimming in a pool and saying you're completely dry. it's just a complete fallacy.
>>340268875
Shit taste confirmed
>>340267482
Regardless, getting rid of nukes is impossible. Why don't you tell your favorite gook that?
>>340269091
Enjoy your broken promises :)
>>340267020
I agree specially on the gameplay part, that game had awful level design.
Faintly I'll go (Kojima departure)
to take this (dismissal)
head on
soon i'll come around
lost and never found (new team)
waiting for my words (new game)
seen but never heard (all the artworks we have right now)
buried underground (twitter i a dead network, everybopdy uses snapchat now)
but i'll keep coming (yeah)
somethingsomething
dissolve
and make your
heart proud (le rusetrain never stops)
soon i'll come around
lost and never found
waiting for my words
seen but never heard
buried underground
but i'll keep coming (yeah)
>>340260134
>>Ludens looks suspiciously close to Norman Reedus
What do you mean close? It's the same fucking face.
>it's a horror stealth shooter
>in space
>>340268875
>being this butthurt at people enjoying things
You are sad and pathetic.
For now we just enjoy the hype.
>>340260815
pic very related
>>340268748
Who says he isn't?
What if the headplanted guy started talking about phantom pain and other assorted clues?
>>340269632
Why was DS3 so bad? The first 2 were good.
>>340262478
If I took the mask off, would he die?
>>340266061
>going from Ocelot in 2 and 3 to MGSV
If anybody needs proof of Kojima losing his writing ability look no further.
IT'S IN FACT MGS 6
KOJIMO BEING FIRED WAS A RUSE
SILENT HILLS IS CHICO AFTER GENDER REASSIGNMENT
>>340270065
>he still thinks Chico isn't Quiet
>>340270062
it's explained in the tapes why ocelot is off in 5. he hates the entire situation completely, since he's a huge big boss fan boy.
>will not longer be able to say I enjoy the band without people saying i only know it because of Kojima, etc
t-thanks
>two different flashlights
It's pretty obviously Kojima Hills. Someone with a giant ass space suit would have much more advanced flashlight tech. The fact that it looks like what we see in Silent Hill games is a purposeful design choice. Also I agree that looks like Norman Inbreedus
>>340270007
Honesty the way to combat was paced.
At some point it no longer felt like I was fighting for survival more like I was the Doomslayer and it felt rushed as shitplus they removed that awesome L4D style multiplayer which was fucking bullshit, I would not have complained if the just hashed it into DS3 instead of the fucking coop
>>340270062
Ocelot in V was fine, the difference is that he's on your side actively and openly trying to assist you unlike every other incarnation of him we've seen and that makes him uninteresting.
The entire interesting part of his personality is his sneaky deceptive nature, which is absent in TPP.
>>340261379
You mean like the last ruse cruise that went nowhere and did nothing? You're all being fucking mongoloids
>>340264613
Pacman
>>340260134
>Kojima listens to Low Roar
This nigga never disappoints me.
>>340260134
HOL UP
*wastes entire team budget on stupid shit*
I´LL KEEP GOING
*deletes ending from the game*
DID YOU RIKE IT
*gets fired*
>Caring about Kojimbo after the shitshow that was MGS5.
Don't blame it on Konami, too.
>>340260134
y does he come up with these ruses just to disappoint in the end?
hes spending more time on social marketing rather than making a good(and finished) game
>>340270218
>>340271262
I liked his showmanship and eccentricity, even more than him being a liar. There's no excuse for removing all of his personality just because he's not consciously fooling anyone. Ocelot always shows off and drops one liners even when he was around Big Boss, why'd he just stop and become a normal dude in V? Even if he's bored and hates being there he seems like the guy who'd pick fights for laughs rather than just turn into the tutorial character. Kojima had no idea what he was doing with Ocelot that game, he should have ridden away on his horse once he dropped Venom off on the ship.
>>340270007
Because muh fast paced combat for the call of duty crowd
>>340272163
Because all the things you like about him are things he uses to aid his deceptions. Flair, showmanship and theatrics are employed to throw people off his true goal. In V he's straight up guiding Venom and helping him build up Diamond Dogs with no pretenses.
I don't really think you're in much of a position to complain that the creator doesn't understand the character if you can't see the distinction there.
>>340265510
>2 has the worst protagonist in the series
> the worst boss fights,
> the worst story
I know it's hard to follow when it isn't all explosions and two-dimensional motivations, but apply yourself goddamnit.
>>340271842
Kek
>>340268925
Only neo-/v/ thinks V is worse than 4.
If you think 4 is a better game than V, it's incredibly likely that you only played that game while marathon the series and weren't around when it came out.
Someone help me out here
So was PT the silent hill game they were working on?
Is this game going to be the silent hill game? Ima I confused
>>340268982
You haven't been browsing /v/ a lot lately, have you? There are a dozen fags here that hate MGS V and unironically believe it's the worst Metal Gear game. Yes, even worse than 4.
It's ridiculous, Zelda Cycle for MGS
Where the fuck is Kojima getting money to fund this shit
>>340272791
Sony
>replaying TPP after not touching it since December
It's way better when you know exactly what you're getting into. Venom is a much more appreciable character when you're not clinging to the denial that there's the remotest chance that he's really Big Boss after all.
>>340262529
Stop getting me hyped, Silent Hills was the biggest case of blue balls I've ever had. Kojima mentioned he had a lot of nightmares and stress making that game so maybe he wants to make all that worth something.
>I'll keep coming
>E3 is coming up
>I'll keep coming to E3
More news soon
>>340272760
plotwise it's a disgrace filled with filler keeping you in the hopes of something relevant
gameplaywise
it's kinda ok
then it turns into a full blown korean grinder
it didn't do what it set out to just so it reminds us mgs2 exists
and it's a better game than this one
4 didn't have a lot of gameplay, but at least it was meaningful and it PERFECTED the MGS gameplay formula, instead of going for casualized health regenerating wallhacking slowmotion broken animation horse shit.
Is that ok pumpkin? We all hate the movie game, but we hate the phantom game even more.
>>340273106
>we
Don't speak for me, faggot. I don't share your salt over the fact we didn't get to play as muh real big boss becoming ebulz.
>>340272560
I never had a Playstation growing up and just played MGS2 and 3 on an emulator a few months ago.
I can safely say that what Kojima did with Raiden and how MGS2 relates to MGS1 is one of the greatest masterstrokes in gaming and that one thing got me over my gaming fatigue so hard it's not funny.
MGS3 is an amazing stylistic piece, to be sure, but MGS1+2 is an unparalleled gaming experience that I don't think can ever be replicated and I am very sorry that I was not able to experience it in it's time and feel the full force of all those events.
>>340260895
>>340261127
These. I'm not getting fooled again
Kojima's magnum opus was MGS3
>>340273261
Reddit?
Out of the door, line on the left, one upvote each.
>>340264613
This reminds me, will Routine or whatever the hell it was called come out in out lifetimes?
>>340273509
>ebin /v/ has to hate everything meme
Maybe when you turn 18 you'll stop feeling like you have to try so hard to fit in.
>>340273487
>not 2
>>340273552
Sure, simultaneous launch with Deep Down.
>>340273587
Maybe when you'll turn 8 you'll learn you're defending a literal kusoge.
Either that, or when you'll run out of Skyrim mods
>>340273739
>n-no u
Come on, son.
I know you're angry that you didn't get the awesome fanfiction you cobbled together in your head but you really need to stop trying to console yourself with the delusion that everyone should feel the same way.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET IT NOT BE REEDUS
I FUCKING H A T E IT WHEN THEY USE KNOWN REAL LIFE ACTORS IN GAMES
ITS THE GAYEST SHIT EVER
THIS NORMIE PANDERING SHIT NEEDS TO STOP
>>340273975
>I FUCKING H A T E IT WHEN THEY USE KNOWN REAL LIFE ACTORS IN GAMES
i bet you hate mgs then :^)
>Kojima starts the ruse cruise again
I'm hype to see what an unrestrained Kojima can make. I hope it's something horrorish, with Del Toro and Junji Ito involved
>>340273961
>s-stop being d-d-d-d-d-d-delicious? d-d-delusional!
I can do that too, fuckface.
If you think this is what we were supposed to get, you're even more brainwashed by MMOs and shitty AAA games than Venom.
>>340273975
>implying Red Alert 3's live action scenes weren't the tightest shit
>>340262557
>2014 published Hillenbrand the science fiction novel "drones country", a thriller which deals with total surveillance and prediction
>total surveillance and prediction
>total surveillance and prediction
>total surveillance and prediction
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>340260134
That's the definition of overdesign.
>a mask with a helmet inside a helmet
>all the useless yellow buttons
>>340274214
>we were SUPPOSED to get more than this
We got what we got, and I enjoyed it for what it was instead of being salty over what it wasn't.
Being a little crybaby bitch purely because your expectations weren't met doesn't make you right.
>inb4 shit taste
>>340274170
>mfw I watched your pic related and it was actually good
