>Jumps around 3 times
>Whittling down her health
>Nearly got her
>Nope, she rewinds back to full health and sticks me with a bomb
ITS FUCKING BULLSHIT, GET RID OF HER
yeah she's annoying, there's literally no counter to her besides just having good aim
torbjorn turret should counter her in theory but she can just run in and throw her bomb on it
>>340256452
>literally no counter to her besides just having good aim
>>340256325
She is squishy as fuck.
Literally get good.
JUST BUY ORCHID
>it's yet another anon gets savaged by X character and then runs off to complain about it on /v/ episode
>>340256325
>Hook this bitch she rewinds out
>She dashes back into my face
>One shot her with shotgun
So many tracer players are bad but I agree about that bomb shit
>>340256325
>whittling down a 150 hp character
the problem here is that you can't aim for shit
>>340256452
Roadhog hook+combo
Mcree flashbang+fan
Widowmaker full charge shot
Junkrat bear trap
ur literally retart
SHE'S TOO FAST
>she blinks into me
>dome her
lol I have shotguns you limey bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGrMQhowWIQ
>>340256325
You are retarded.
>playing as Reinhardt against Tracer
>>340256452
>literally no counter to her besides just having good aim
>being this autistic
>>340256325
McREEE needs fan the hammer nerf and Widowmaker needs her charge time longer, time between shots longer and cut her mobility cooldown in half. Other than that the game is as balanced as it should be.
Decrease her HP by 25.
There, she's fixed.
>>340256452
Just spray like crazy with Mei and you will slow her down and pop her head off. Easy peezy.
>>340257461
It wouldn't do anything desu. What would have killed her before will still kill her and nothing new will one shot her. She doesn't need it anyways. Just git gud.
>>340257501
>she blinks away once
>she's out of range forever now
now what? remember that she has 2 more blinks and can rewind time
git gud
>>340256882
4 out of like 20 characters have a counter. Wow what's your point?
>people who haven't played against an actually good tracer
It doesn't happen often but when it does it's the most infurating thing in this game, even worse than the autistic hanzo players who somehow never miss an arrow and make impossible shots with split arrow because they have been playing him nonstop since the game released.
>>340258313
Git Gud. Either you're trolling or retarded so that's the only response you deserve.
>die against a character
>OP PLS NERF THEM
Why does this happen with every game?
>>340258713
because the majority of people are retards who refuse to learn, and thus blame their own mistakes on others
It would be nice if she got her dashes a little bit slower. She essentially gets 4 per fight unless she's spooging them all in one go.
Sometimes that damage seems high, like 200hp characters going down in one.
>>340256452
Winston counters her pretty well. Just shield and hold left click in the general direction of her recall.
>>340256325
>shoot her twice
>she's dead
2hard4u?
>>340256325
fucking nooby she can just reset her damage! she just gets rid of the misakes!why don't you try remembering where she was so when she instantly teleports to that location you kill her immediately.
>>340256325
ahahaha u mad bro? git gud
>Get legendary Pharah skin
>It isnt any of the ones that look like an Evangelion mech
According to the people of /v/, literally every character needs to be nerfed.
>It's a two Hanzo's trying to snipe on offense instead of getting on the fucking payload episode
>It's a team keeps running through the center gate on Kings row instead of flanking through the hotel episode
>It's a "I don't want to switch from my 'main' to counter the enemy episode
Kill me
>>340259769
It was the first skin I bought when I got the money.
Only got given the silver one until then.
>>340256325
>Using all her jumps, rewind and ult to kill you only.
The good news is she gets shot dead immediately after you do.
Don't know why people complain about her bomb. It's powerful, but it's her ultimate so what do you expect. Compared to other ults its quite tame.
>>340259769
>Get legendary skins
>Always bastion or widowmaker
At least I'm 250 coins from raptor phara skin
>>340259993
>It's a "I don't want to switch from my 'main' to counter the enemy episode
I despise anyone who has a "main" in this game who refuses to switch them out when need be.
>>340260051
she farms it up pretty quick but it's not really any different than genjis ult.
it's just more emotionally jarring because it's quick DPS.
people want shit that's emotionally jarring to be nerfed and huge burst damage is that way.
>>340258713
this so much. fucking whiny autists can't figure out counter attacks so they'll complain endlessly about how every hero needs to get nerfed. unin-freaking-stall
>Enemy Widowmaker defending on Volskaya second point with a pocket mercy
>Covered by a reinhardt, bastion, and mcree
>Constant headshots, never misses.
>Go in multiple times as Genji/Tracer to try and flush her out without any luck.
Hacks exist already, right? Because I'm 99% person this person was hacking. They had ridiculous accuracy and always knew where everyone was, even when ult wasn't up. Team agreed and the guy's reported by multiple people now at the very least.
>>340257501
Tracer counters that fat cunt
>>340256543
What's the name of that game?
>>340260814
Hacks do exist already. :)
>>340256325
always estimate where she was 3 seconds ago
Git Gud.
>>340256325
The bomb never kills anyone when I stick it to someone.
>>340261237
Dont stick ot to a full health reinhardt unless hes right next to a bunch of low heslth people
>>340261214
this.
it's always hilarious when I do two noncommital bullshit blasts with reaper and get her hp down to 64 and she recalls back to where I'm aiming and I instantly headshot her.
>Want to play Mercy
>Reinhardt
>Then Tracer, Genji, Reaper, shitty Widowmaker
>Playing meme rat
>see tracer being annoying
>throw a trap where I think she might go, put a mine on top of it
>go back to shooting at everyone else
>hear the clinking metal sound
>right click
>dead tracer
Is there anything more satisfying
>It's a "fuck escorting the payload" episode.
I honestly think there are still a lot of people thinking that this game has deathmatch.
>>340261875
i want them to introduce tdm for this reason alone. i enjoy the payload and capture game modes but i feel like so many people are just interested in death match, that not enough people wanma figure out how to get that payload moving and overcome whatever challenges the other team put in place for us.
>>340262172
>TDM
Fuck no. You really want Tracers only?
There's a reason why they said they aren't introducing that mode ever.
>taking a lot of damage as Reinhardt
>Mercy player just doesn't heal me most of the time and I die when I'm up front trying to block enemy damage and attack people
I'm not fucking asking for a pocket mercy here, but holy shit every healer can see the health people are at. What the fuck are you doing?
>playing zarya
>tracer trying to harass me from long range
>turn my back on her and ignore her useless damage
>shields end up regenerating and making her even more worthless
>she gets upset and runs right up to me and starts unloading into my back
>activate shield, easy charge
>turn around and kill her with alt fire
This will happen every single game with a tracer on the enemy team if you play zarya.
It's the fucking best.
>>340262246
i want it to be outside of quick play so the people that want to do that can leave quick play game modes.
>>340260897
Facade
>>340256452
>having good aim
>Soldier 76 ult
>>340258009
Holy shit the match must have been really boring for a PotG that shit.
>>340258713
Blizzard makes a single class overpowered, then proceeds to nerf that class to a level where they are not competitive anymore. They move on to other classes, until the game is unplayable.
This is why people are still avoiding Overwatch entirely. Blizzard's track record of "fixing things" involves destroying everything else in the process.
>>340262850
>playing torb
>build a turret, in the process of upgrading it
>pharah comes out of nowhere and ults me
>gets potg
I take comfort in knowing every player in the game shares the disgusted look on my face every time a shitty potg comes up.
>>340262561
And then everyone will abandon the objective game modes in quick play/comp.
In CoD, about 80% of the people were in deathmatch. shit kills games not designed around it. TF2 didn't officially do it and OW doesnt need it either
>whole opposing team is Tracer
I mean we won but it was the equivalent of someone knocking down a beehive and having a swarm come at you. It was a fucking madhouse.
>>340256325
>can't aim for shit even with enlarged hitboxes
how hard it is to deal 150 damage
>>340263232
Because hitscan weapons have smaller hitboxes than projectile weapons.
>team never picks tanks
>forced to play Rein
Jokes on you, this hero is the most fun.
>>340257501
mei also kills her in one headshot
>>340263214
>tfw you win as a full only X character team
It's a fun feel
>>340258313
>6 on a team
>1/5 of characters have a counter
I fail to see the problem
>Tfw only play Genji
>All I do is play Genji
>Even when teamstacking I play genji
Waga tamashima motooru
>>340263829
Please instruct me in the ways of the Genji.
I can't fucking win, even when I have the drop on other players.
>>340263479
Fellow Reinhardt brother! Having fun smashing the squishies?
>Played against a game that was 2 Tracer 2 Genji
>Still beat them with a single McCree
>>340263919
Instead of sniping with 3-burst shuriken from afar, run up close and shotgun with alternate fire fan toss.
>>340263919
First of all what you want to do is memorize every single health pickup in maps, this will help you immensely.
Aiming comes with time, so don't worry about it, soon you'll just feel exactly how many shurikens you need before the charge gibs the enemy.
The ultimate is actually a bit tricky, it's generally worth it just to use for guaranteed 2 - 3 kills as it recharges very fast, I made the mistake of holding it for that 'opportune moment' but it meant that I sometimes only unleashed it once in a game. Of course, if you have it charged up and you know you can get the drop on the enemy team then you save it. Use as the situation desires.
General rule of thumb: Double tap for 'normal' heroes, tap and charge to kill for tracer/zenyatta. Sword also goes through Reins shield.
Also, get as much weeb ninja Nippon strong music in a playlist as you can, Onimusha, Way of the Samurai, Shogun 1/2, Ninja slayer, etc etc. This will make your warrior spirit burn.
>>340264098
i have fun playing reinhardt, but i have to ask
how the fuck do people kill roadhog on reinhardt? i can kill virtually every other hero no fucking problem (excluding pharah) but roadhog i literally have no idea how to deal with. i usually just kill myself in order to fucking make them die by tackling them off of cliffs in the hopes that theyll get frustrated and stop playing.
>>340263829
Mizu no you ni nagare, brother.
>>340263919
Patience is a virtue. Learn when to left click and when to right click. Jump more. Jump unpredictably. Throw in wallclimbs against projectile users and people who don't look up. Abuse the flank. Wait for your opponents to be distracted by your team. Be the distraction for your team. Know your opponents cooldowns. Know when they probably have their ults. Have an escape route. Kill the support.
>>340264335
Wall climbing is a great tool in fights as well, just as this anon mentioned.
My favorite trick is to climb+use double jump to 'hover' for a second or two above a doorway if I know I'm being followed, no one ever looks up when they pass a doorway, leading to you safely dropping behind them for easy hits.
>>340264313
>get hooked
>immediately charge
>melee
>throw
then just pound his ass
>>340258713
The only hero that needs a serious nerf is mccree though
Zenyatta really needs a buff to his health.
>>340258713
Meanwhile in TF2
>Nerf one character that needed the nerf for longest time
>WAAH PLZ UNNERF MY WIN BUTTON
>>340264313
In a 1v1, Roadhog will always have the upper hand. If you end up going against a Roadhog, have a friend at the ready to fire once you charge him, then hopefully with enough damage done, you should be able to take him out with E before he can heal up.
>>340264629
And Widowmaker.
>>340256325
STOP MAKING SHITTY OVERWATCH THREADS ON /v/
>>340256452
>winston
>symmetra
>soldier 76
>>340264721
50 armor, 100 shield.
No sense in having regular organic health on a robot.
>>340264313
unless you get the drop on him with a charge it's pretty difficult
>Roadhog's wombo combo can almost OHKO Reinhardt at max health
>can easily follow up with a second shot before you are able to respond
>so it's basically an OHKO
Who thought this was a good idea?
>>340263680
Played a whole team of zaryas and won
>My two characters with the highest playtime are Zenyatta (Sunyatta skin) and Reinhardt (Stonehardt skin)
Rate
>>340256325
can't wait for the hype for this incredibly average and shitty game ends. i mean come on, blizzard is one day going to stop paying the shills to promote on internet this piece of garbage right?
>>340257392
What's so hard about it
Keep pressing M1 and kill her in two hits. The range of the hammer is huge.
>>340265052
>Get chained by Roadhog
>Shotgun to the face
>Instantly killed
>>340264616
ive played enough reinhardt to know that this doesn't fucking work, and its hard to say im shit or that im missing when i literally can blow all of my abilities and he still survives. best case scenario, i block his hook with my shield (which happens literally all the time) but even if i get the drop on him he has too much fucking health and the second hes off stun he just eats some shit or whatever and then he shoots me to death.
>>340264753
i wanted to play genji but i always ended up alone and ahead of my team at the objective every time.
dont get me wrong, i fucking love playing reinhardt but god damn he should be at least a LITTLE bit faster than other heroes. i mean fuck, you just make like youre playing oblivion against any aggressive reinhardt with his charge off cooldown and hes done for. i completely understand if someone uses an escape to get away from him like genjis charge or tracer or sasuke but backpedaling is kind of bullshit
>>340263829rightclick + melee + dash
>>340256325
>be genji
>reflect tracer
>laugh
>>340265237
>Charge at a Roadhog the moment he uses his ult
>Knocked back continuously, get chained, and blasted to the face
>>340256452
The turret counters her hard, saying her ultimate kills it is retarded because everyones ultimate can be OP.
Roadhog, Torbjorn, a decent sniper, any hard hitting character with decent aim can counter her
>>340265205
Tracer rapes Reinhardt, this is coming from someone who plays both frequently, if Reinhardt kills tracer then it was either bad luck on her part or she is a shit tracer
>>340265372
this has happened to me a few times, his ult will fuck your shield up too
i just wish i didnt have to rely on my team to kill his ass because i can solo virtually everyone else
>tfw you're only good at support classes
seriously fucking kill me, i'm so sick of playing this shit but i'm so bad at everything else
>>340265432
reinhardt's armor is literally made to counter tracer's shitty pellets, what are you talking about? she dies in literally 2 swings. the second she gets close to him shes dead
>>340256452
>what is the road hog chain
>what is reaper
>what is 76 with good aim
>what is zentanya with 3 orbs
>what is McCree flash bang and fan the hammer
>what is mei
So many counters for this bitch. Get gud
>>340261703
>when she rewinds mid fight into the trap you put down 2 seconds ago
>>340265470
>Tfw feel like the main reason you play the support classes like Tank and Healer is because no one else ever wants to do the job
>>340265372
>HAMMER DOWN as soon as Roadhog ults
>get knocked into the air
>voiceline gets extended until I actually hit the ground
Kinda funny honestly.
>>340256452
>there's literally no counter to her
She has low as fuck health. There are enough things that can oneshot her and stop her from being an annoying twat.
>>340265565
>my face when
At least Tanks seem to be pretty fun except Reinhardt. Zarya is interesting to play and can support others at the same time to save their ass and has an amazing ult.
>>340265090
Zenyatta is the coolest character in the game.
Good work
>>340265678
>At least Tanks seem to be pretty fun except Reinhardt
But Reinhardt is the most fun to play.
>>340256325
>nerf this, nerf that, fuck me with a wiffle ball bat.
overwatch threads are identical to wow forums.
>>340265905
I don't like holding M1 or M2. Even Hammerdown is lackluster because the team is always retarded and doesn't take the chance to waste the enemy team. It's always me alone hitting 5 people on the floor and then die because they get up before 2 die.
>>340265625
>See a Mcree ulting my team along with a bastion incoming
>Hoo boy its time to bring down the hammer
>Roadhog pops me in the air mid-hammer down
>Tfw that moment of salt as they denied you that turns into agreement that the roadhog made the right call
Fun interaction, Reinhardt shield blocking Reinhardt ult can go suck a dick though, its a god damn earthquake not a projectile.
>Tfw you conc rocket an enemy lucio ult away from his team
nothing sweeter
Someone give me 1k gold so I can unlock Zarya's Siberian shit which covers her hair.
>>340256325
A strong breeze can kill her.
If anything I think she needs some small buffs. Her Pulse Bomb isn't strong enough to kill big guys like Roadhog even if you stick him which is kind of bull based on the range of it if it doesn't stick, and it might just be the heat of the battle frustrations, but her reload feels painfully slow at points.
>>340265752
>Play WoW
>Always choose DPS because I'm afraid to Tank in Heal
>Play Overwatch
>Usually always go for Zenyatta and Reinhardt
Feel like I'm not even sure why.
no character will ever be as bullshit as McCree
>dude I pressed E while facing in your general direction, that means I win!
>>340265752
Zenny is really good, reminds me of playing my Disc priest in wow. If only his damage healed teammates.
>>340263680
> tfw it's near impossible to win full Symmetra because a single Winston can ruin everything
It's always fun until he shows up
>>340266373
Symmetra in general is probably the actual worst character. The only thing she has are her turrets, which have no health whatsoever, and her teleporter.
How about this for a change of pace:
Who needs a buff aside from D.Va?
>>340266503
Zenyatta with 25 more health.
>>340266465
her LMB is so damn good though
>soloing Reaper, following him when he tries to wisp away and finishing him
>soloing Zarya and Winstons
>pissing off Genjis and Tracers
so good.
>>340266503
Zenyatta could use something, the other two support are better in almost any situation
I would like to see Symmetra just changed. Outside of teleport everything else is whatever
Reaper seems like the weakest offensive character since McCree is better at close range than him and his teleport is a little too telegraphed
One thing I've noticed about this game is that outside of Zenyatta and Symmetra, I have seen people bitch about every single character in the game in some way. While there are a few things that are legitimately OP, stop being a bitch and switch out to a character that can actually do something or stop playing with pubs that get slaughtered every five seconds giving those characters a chance to actively be a problem.
>>340266465
She's the best Rein counter because her slow orbs and lasers go through his shield (I've killed so many who don't realise this it's hilarious), and her teleporter can save matches. In general, she can destroy 4 of the 5 tanks just by circling them and holding down her weapon which increases in strength as she stays connected.
She's a lot more situational and only really good when defending, but she's not useless. Her only real problem is that her hard counter of Winston obliterates her more than any other counter in the game, and a couple of others like Mei and Junkrat can also mess her up almost by accident.
>>340266770
The only characters I have legit complaints are the retarded hitboxes for snipers and McCree bursting tanks down so fast that you have absolutely no chance to do anything.
She's only good at being annoying and distracting you like a mosquito.
I fucking hate fighting her but she's not really op.
>>340266465
I really want to agree, but I have an 85% win rate with her so I dunno. Once you learn how to properly put up her turrets, it's so goddamn good.
But I only really use her on defense.
>>340264721
Not really because his discord orb cuts literally anyones hp in half making them as shitty as he is.
>>340266887
>my face Symmetra Turret Autism
It's almost as distracting as Winston in his Ultimate.
Is there literally any way to counter a tracer with her ult up and her recall off cooldown? Even the shittiest of tracers can pull off that shit and there's literally nothing you can do about it unless you have a genji who has insane reaction times.
>>340266836
Make the hitboxes as big as the actual character model for hitscan scharacters, and reduce projectile weapons to what hitscan weapons have now. No more retarded arrows killing you a foot away from your head, and widows will have less margin for error.
how are you supposed to deal with tank stacking?
>>340267031
Stack McCree and Lucio
>Playing bastion on KOTH because they have a zarya
>Losing really badly
>Healer calls me an idiot for playing bastion on KOTH
>As soon as we start winning because I can finally kill zarya he accidently walls rides and falls off the map
>We win the game and he instantly leaves the match
Zarya literally has no counter besides bastion.
>>340267002
Hitscan character have the same hitboxes as projectile weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
>>340267031
reaper, lucio, mcree, bastion, mei... all good choices.
>>340265509
Sounds like a shit tracer to me, as tracer I have never been killed by Reinhardt, you can literally just run circles around him chipping away at his health
>>340265052
It wouldn't be that much of a problem if it wasn't for the 20 tick, he can basically hook you through walls.
>>340264508
Oh how lovely! Thanks for sharing your brilliance anon. :D
>>340267125
Symmetra counters her hard.
>>340267031
Zen's actually pretty good against tanks. Discord headshots are 135 damage. It's like shooting them in the head with McCree's revolver, except it has no falloff and is actually slightly faster (unless you're fanning them)
>>340265509
Are you stupid? He literally will never catch up to a tracer, he doesn't counter her at all.
>>340266698
Zenyatta is by far the best support at dealing damage, so if your team is lacking sustain AND damagesuch as when 2 fucks play snipers, and your offense is genji/tracerhe's the best pick.
>>340267125
I play Reinhardt and every Zarya I see I make my bitch. I pin her against the fucking wall and fuck her bitch neck up. She'll never fuck a younger woman again.
>>340267210
Not really, if she shields your beam at all you are going to die before you kill her. Where would you get this idea?
>>340267290
>Reinhart charges
>Turn on shield and get hit
There you go fight instantly lost for reinheart since she does more damage then your swing.
>one shot an enemy Widowmaker trying to snipe me with Fire Strike
>"Do I have you attention yet?!"
>>340265752
Zenyatta is probably one of the scariest heroes to have in the enemy team. He can pretty destroy anyone when played right.
His shitty health and movement is what makes him a high risk high reward character though, they need to give him a slight buff.
>>340256325
>be McCree crouch
>hear tracer
>wait
>press E and M2
WEW they only way she survives if 20 tick is on her side. Which is 50% because the game sucks dick.
>>340267265
>pick Zen vs Snipers when he dies to a single bodyshot
>>340264508
My favorite tricks as genji are to double jump over reinhardts and magically get pulled into their charge, double jump over roadhog hooks and watch it magically snap to me in the killcam, double jump over whoever I'm fighting and watch them melee nothing as I die, and use deflect on a roadhog hook and watch it cancel my deflect and pull me in.
>>340267290
Zarya is canon straight.
>>340267310
>Where would you get this idea?
from all the Zarya's I tear apart on my own?
Zarya players tend to ignore mini-turrets and miss-time their shields, just wait a second for her shield to drop and then circle strafe her like a Dark Souls boss, chances are she won't keep up and you'll get an easy kill.
Constantly kill Zarya's as her even without the turrets.
>>340267335
they literally all try that and i dont ever care i just charge her against a wall, swing at her once and then hit her with my E moving back and shes dead. shes so fucking slow. that doesn't work, man.
>>340267381
Zenyatta gets huge problems due Widowmaker one-shotting him due the retarded damage a fullycharged bodyshot does.
>>340266465
Definitely not, you just need to learn a few things about her first.
Most importantly, don't stack too many turrets, I go for 2 at most.
Don't use your turrets as damage dealers, use them as slowers and distractions, if you're making a turret trap room, don't stack them in one place, put them in different places in the room to distract the enemy while you sit and M1 them.
Symmetra's DPS is crazy once it charges so as long as you can distract them while you charge it for a second or two, you will win most fights.
Also, put down turrets on the ground if you're running from someone to slow them down.
She's hard countered by Winston.
>>340267447
>Tend to ignore turrets and miss time shields
Stop playing against shitty Zaryas, a good one will eat you alive. Her M2 is built to fuck nests up and if she actually shields during any of that your brown ass is done.
Or do you play on console?
>>340267290
??? Both of those characters do 75 DPS, the difference is zarya can get way more health and damage than Reinhardt unless you charge her, which really kills anyone instantly in this game so that doesn't mean much considering how slow it is vs good players.
>>340267561
Does the Shift Skill also affect the balls? I thought it was only her beam weapon.
>>340267497
The only interaction in the game that can be considered 1000% bullshit at all levels of play.
>>340267440
20 tick at work there brah, many times you see yourself pull the deflect off just for the shot to kill you anyway because you weren't on a favorable tick.
>>340266698
Reaper is pretty balanced in my opinion, he'd probably be op with a buff.
Also comparing him to mccree is a bit unfair since he's actually overpowered.
>>340262950
>if you nerf every character in the game, the game cannot be played seriously anymore
Average /v/ user, everyone.
>>340267631
Both, full energy Zarya is built to fuck your face.
>>340267561
PC.
I'm telling you, Zaryas die like flies to Symmetra.
Other tanks have escapes, Winston can jump, Reinhart can rush or shield, D.va can even fly.
Zarya is the only one without an escape mechanism, so if she drops her shield and you circle-strafe her (maybe with some jumping for good measure) it's an easy kill every time because Symettra's LMB increases damage the longer it hits.
>>340267682
>Like the look of the Nevermore Reaper
>See faggots with edgy names playing him all the time
>He's not even that great compared to other OP characters, and he, like Hanzo, offers nothing another character does but better
>>340260157
I have a character I "main", most of the time I want to play that character because she's fun.and she makes the genji mains useless which is always a good thing
But I will change off if I feel like I'm being worthless
>>340256325
at the end of the melting dream
>>340256325
i'd fucked tracer while she lets out those giggles. Makes my dick rock hard those...
>>340267730
>and you circle-strafe her
Why do people think this is a legit tactic? I hate it when I see tracers and other people abuse the shitty tick doing this and then I just switch to mccree or roadhog and one shot these idiots who think they are good.
>>340267730
Brother stop ignoring what I'm saying, if an enemy Zarya can't hold her fuckbeam on your face because you are circle strafing you are playing shit zaryas. A shield at the mid-point of syms void-ray protects you from the brunt of it and you will burn her down faster than she burns you down. With 400 HP and another 400 effective HP your ass isn't going to kill one that can actually deal with your retarded bunny-hopping ass.
>17 loot boxes
>not a single skin of any kind
What the fuck? Is this my punishment for not buying during the beta?
>>340267437
Reading comprehension, i was referring to having 2 snipers and genji/tracer as your teams shitty lineup.
>>340266698
Agreed, reaper is just very lacklustre, his "mobility" abilities don't really offer him any mobility, he works better as defense just hiding in a room until someone walks past unnoticed
>>340256325
>she just used all of her skills
>INCLUDING HER ULT
>to kill one person
>waaaagh nerf please ;(
t. Widow/Hanzo main
>>340267925
I feel you, I keep getting shitty sprays/icons and skins I already have.
>it's a enemy team has a Tracer that's absolutely raping your team but your McCree is beyond shit and isn't even trying to hunt the Tracer episode
God fucking damnit.
>>340268065
>Suck at the game but can hit tracer to bring her to around one third of her health
>Literally everyone else on your team ignores or misses every single shot on her
Why? People don't even try to melee her when they keep missing up close I really don't get it.
>>340268065
Alternatively It's an enemy McCree being healed by a Mercy and fucks your team up because they are to retarded to take care of either of them
>>340267682
>Also comparing him to mccree is a bit unfair since he's actually overpowered
Unfair but it is the case. Reaper having shotguns he should do better against tanks and up close but McCree does better up close, kills tanks faster, and can shoot at distance. When McCree is nerfed Reaper will fair better, but currently there is no reason to pick him in a competitive sense
>>340264906
that would barely help him at all, he is still going to get body shot by widowmaker
>>340268065
Every slot has a character that can destroy her, McCree, Roadhog, Widowmaker, Mei, Zenyatta, and even more that do just fine.
>>340268065
>It's a "You join a match, your team has 3 Widowmaker's, there's no healer, and the enemy team is completely obliterating you." episode
>Tfw 5 or 6 bastion skins
>Haven't even selected him once
>>340268201
Body shot does 150 max. Armor reduces damage.
>>340268213
Tracer will beat Mei if she is able to kite properly
>>340268187
>Reaper having shotguns he should do better against tanks
Are you retarded? Reaper absolutely rapes tanks if he gets close to them.
>>340268278
You are effectively forcing a slot just to babysit Zenyattas ass that no other healer needs.
God now i realize why ypu guys hate dota, youre just bad at competitive games
>>340256325
I personally find Widowmaker to be more bullshit if the person is good. Actually, most of the time, good ones look like an aimbot is being use during the kill cam. But I think that is just the tick rate and aim-assist.
>Hate everything about Tracer
>Play her for the first time in an All-tracer match
Holy shit, her guns just delete shit if you aim for the head. I didn't realize they did so much damage.
>>340268213
McCree is the best and most reliable counter to Tracer.
>>340268286
She really can't, she loses her mobility if she goes too deep, and if she doesn't you can one shot her. Throw in a wall to cut her off and the ability to just not give a fuck and heal to full if she starts winning, and she can't do a damned thing unless she forces you to ice block and then ults you, which means you suck anyway.
>>340268291
I think you misunderstood. I am not saying he fairs poorly against tanks, I am saying McCree does better against them because he can straight burst them down. Hence why I said McCree does it better in the sentence not that Reaper does it poorly.
>Get Tracer down to <40% health
>she hits E
>re-engages from another location
>by the time we get her down to <40% health again she has E up again
>literally unkillable if her player is even remotely competent and doesn't try to engage McCrees solo
I am seriously perplexed as to why they thought giving a backline harasser/flanker the ability to heal herself to full every 15 seconds was a good idea. The amount of raw staying power that gives her compared to other offensive flankers is frankly disgusting.
Remember when "NERF BASTION" was the hot and spicy new meme?
Yeah so do I and now nobody gives a shit because he's easy as fuck to counter.
Literally any of the tanks can rape Tracer, especially Roadhog and D.Va
>>340268346
Zenyatta doesn't need a babysitter because he should be with your line, he's best when you have a solid position and only one maybe 2 flankers.
>>340268446
But the underlying problem is rather that McCree needs to waste almost all his skills to take down a tank leaving him completely open to get fucked.
>>340268278
Oh shit that's a great idea, you can sort of already do this with symetras armor tho.
>>340268346
????? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>340268438
You aren't wrong, its just that if your McCree can't handle it, you have options in every flavor. Baskins Robbins this bitch
>>340268470
>bastion
>easy to counter
Even genji doesn't even counter him anymore.
>>340268470
I don't think dva deals fast enough damage to kill a tracer. A good one, would just E, then blink away.
>>340268470
If anyone needs a nerf, it's Torbjorn and his fucking faggot turret.
I've had way too many POTG's stolen from my by a fucking Torbjorn sitting on his ass jerking off while his turret mows down fucking everyone.
>>340268462
>It takes 15 seconds for me to deal 100 damage to a Tracer
>>340268470
Except everyone was complaining about tracer in closed beta and pro teams consistently used 3 tracer 2 lucio + tank team comps.
>>340268470
>>340268570
Bastion is in a pretty good place right now, for pubs. He's strong if you don't counter him, but not entirely worthless if you do. Also, recon mode is fucking fantastic, 300 hp w/ armor slightly worse 76.
>>340268470
>D.va
>raping anyone
Top kek
Literally every other character out-ranges her and she has one of the biggest hitboxes in the game with the biggest critical hitbox.
>D.va uses thrusters to close the gap
>use literally any movement ability to regain your distance
>D.va is kill
Wew lad
>>340268462
I just played an amazing ass lvl 70 tracer who shut our team the fuck down. she was almost unkillable. so fucking irritating.
>>340268570
I feel sorry for your team if you're so shit that you can't counter Bastion with a character LITERALLY made to counter him.
Overwatchtards will defend this
>>340268607
>Dying to Torbjorn's turret
>>340268665
I actually play D.va to counter good Winstons, she can solo him easily, and also pushes him off his targets.
>>340268685
>Complaining about shit that's old news
Fuck off
>>340268653
Recon mode rifle actually does more damage than s76 but takes 1 second longer to reload.
>>340268609
You're missing the point, a good tracer will recall and fuck off until she can re-engage with recall back up.
>>340268607
Nah, Björn is fine.
What is bullshit is that you're able to double pick a hero, that really needs to change asap.
>>340268685
meanwhile soldier76 rockets are passing through mei shoulders all day everyday.
>>340268570
But he does, sure there are smart bastions, but it's all in the mind games. They usually stop shooting when they see me but i just keep throwing shurikens, and these are a lot of damage. When the think i might not be going, for the reflect, they start shooting. Might not be the super hard counter, but it is one of the best bastion killers.
>>340268685
Because the tick rate is awful, this and "shooter wins" both work for the games favor, but yeah its stupid desgin on both accounts for how much money blizzard has.
>>340268701
>Play Zenyetta
>Barely have enough time to react before his turret fucks my shit up
>>340267730
There are character I struggle with as Zarya (Widowmaker, Pharah and Mcree are trouble) but Symmetra? If you're dropping Zaryas easily with her then you must be playing against trash people. I don't think I've ever lost a 1 on 1 fight against her, as long as you aren't a sperg who wastes her shield immediately there is pretty much nothing she can do against you as you'll always tank her damage and give her back double in return.
>>340268737
No thats fucking stupid, especially in pubs where the useless fucks can't do their job right.
>>340268731
So you've staved off a player from fighting for 15 seconds.
What a great use of a player slot, someone comes in to annoy you and then fucks off for 15 seconds.
>>340268609
>Dash doesn't exist
>Healthpacks aren't every 10 feet for her to go to if her E is down
Problem is that she can disengage faster than anyone can catch up. Its a real problem when you play against a compotent one.
>>340268854
>Play Zenyetta
You're playing the worst support in desperate need of a buff and somehow that is justification for a whole team dying to shit turrets.
>>340267837
maybe because it IS...
>>340268229
the worst kind of episode
>>340268972
>Zen
>Worst support
>>340268291
Game offers me tip "Because of roadhogs large size weapons such as reapers shotguns can be devastating"
>Find a roadhog
>Get the drop on him
>Start unloading shells into him
>He spins around and one shots me
K
>>340268953
And that's because half the cast can mow her down faster than anyone can even react to.
All you need is one correct read on her dashes and you will kill her.
>>340256325
git gud
nerf Mei instead
she can freeze people way too easily
>>340265678
reinhardt is the only true tank though, nobody else provides any sort of damage mitigation as effectively as he does
>>340268685
>people literally play a console port
L O L
>>340269107
just be ready to phantom his hookshot. then you have a chance. Im able to do it somewhat consistently. you can bait his hookshot out too with movement. just strafe around. if you spam E you can phantom before he gets his shot off even if you get caught.
>>340269159
Funny how no one ever picks her.
>>340269145
>Just read her omnidirectional dash and shoot her!
>>340269084
It is
Even though Zen is not a Bad hero.
It's still the worst "support"
Lucio is OP, every team definitely need him
Mercy's ulti usually fuck the other team in payloads
Symmetra's teleporter is literally a big FUCK YOU to the attack team.
I guess you can argue that Symmetra is mostly useless in KOTH
>>340269145
^ this.
I just shoot random areas on the ground as pharah and I even catch good tracers with it.
I hate the quirky IM COOL BEANS look and mannerisms Tracer has, jesus it's so fucking awful.
>>340269214
Correct.
Her health is so low that if you make one correct read she will die and she can't do anything about it.
No other character has that problem, which is why Tracer is an average pick.
>>340268513
It's not like it's a waste if burning his skills allows him to single handedly drop a tank though. They don't exactly take ages to cooldown and he's still able to be dangerous without them. If a Mcree can drop a Reinhardt by himself in 3 seconds flat without the use of an ult then there is a problem.
>>340268685
>people still play blizzshit in 2016
>the counter to a specific hero is a no aim instant win ultimate ability
BRAVO /v/
>>340269005
Really? With shots slowing your movespeed if someone doesn't stand still there is literally no way to circle strafe them, this isn't world of Warcraft you dumbass, if they walk backward while shooting at you all you're doing is running in a circle slowly.
WHOA THERE
HOLD UP
SLOW DOWN
WHOA THERE
SLOW DOWN
WHOA THERE
HOLD UP
WHOA THERE
SLOW DOWN
SLOW DOWN
HOLD UP
WHOA THERE
>IT'S HIGH NOON
>>340269168
While that's true it also entirely depends on situation. When you have a team full of fags going Bastion and Torb Reinhardt is the smarter choice. but half the time I found Zarya to be better because she can survive on her own very well due her shield that recharges very fast and has an ultimate that even if the enemy is playing much better than you can help to make a successful push.
>>340269308
Her voice is one of the most grating things too.
>>340269276
>every team needs the black guy coz he´s so much better
what did jewzard mean by this
>>340268823
that has nothing to do with tick rate, but the ridiculously oversized hitboxes.
>playing as Rein on defense route 66
>enemy tracer being annoying mosquito as usual
>bait her with a fire strike then immediately charge knowing she'll pop out to shoot at me
>crush her against a wall
>emote to complete my display of dominance
>from then on whenever she manages to kill me she emotes at me
Cheeky fuck, but I can appreciate the person not getting salty in chat.
>Payload, Attack
>Tank isn't Reinhardt
>There isn't a Torbjorn
>Healer isn't Lucio
What's even the point?
