Why are indie games so shitty and pretentious /v/?
because shitty and pretentious people make them
>>340192573
JESUS. Just look at that picture.
If Phil Fish isn't the Nu-Male King, then I don't know who is.
>>340192698
Pixel truly is a rarity among rarities.
>>340192573
They aren't as a whole, but the ones that are shilled like Gone Homo, Hurr Story and other SJW libcuck propaganda that gets shilled by Gawker and other shitty, leftist media companies are.
>>340192573
Grim Dawn
>>340193013
TQ is still better
Undertale, Rocket League, Risk of Rain and Terraria are great.
And Minecraft in its early years was fucking awesome.
>>340192573
If you like these games listed you can't complain about pretentiousnous.
>Vampire:Bloodlines
>Fallout New Vegas
>Fallout 1/2
>Planescape Torment
>Any isometric game
>Dwarf Fortress
>Warhammer
>POE
>Halo 5
>Any computer RPG from 1995-2002
>>340192936
amen to that
>>340192573
Bastion, Transistor, Rogue Legacy, Factorio, Gemini Rue, .. plenty of great games out there that aren't supported by large publishing companies. You might want to try the good one's.
>>340192698
there are other indie devs like him.
>>340192573
Check out some of the Devolver stuff (not all of them though).
>>340193098
>undertale
Stopped reading right there.
>>340193549
They're one of the few publishers I actually consider good.
>>340193448
Like who?
I'd like to support more nice people like Pixel.
>>340193098
>Minecraft
>good
>ever
>>340193624
How does it feel to be a hiveminded idiot who can't enjoy a game without caring about its autistic community?
>>340193849
hi newshit
>>340193656
zun
there are plenty of good indie developers, myself included.
most of us are more talented than shitty AAA developers
>>340193849
>he hasn't played pre-release minecraft before notch turned full jewshit.
Get the fuck outta here.
>>340194195
>myself included.
You're probably fucking shit.
>>340192932
Anthony Burch
>>340194195
what did you make?
>>340193656
GalaxyTrail
>>340192573
DIGEST
MY
PENIS
https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=yKUGwlFJAHw
>>340192573
i don't know
Factorio, and Human Resource Machine are pretty fun indie games
>>340193849
>implying that minecraft wasn't great
>leaving empty spaces between greentext
How was your day at /r/gaming?
>bringing up some irrelevant loser for no reason
Why are you cucks so obsessed with these small time losers?
>>340194195
>myself included.
wrong
>>340194350
he made Gender Bender DNA Twisted Extreme
>>340194195
kill yourself retard indies are overrated pretentious bullshit walking simulators
>>340193214
fat autist plz go
>>340194195
Wake up, man, you just shat yourself.
>>340192573
Because publicity. Why the fuck has nobody here seen Rockcock64?
>>340192573
>Why are indie games so shitty and pretentious /v/?
Stop playing the ones made by the "progressive" crowd. Just because their friends are all game journalists giving their shit 11/10's doesn't mean you should be a gullible retarded and buy those games. I thought Axiom Verge, Shovel Knight, Binding of Isaac and Castle in the Darkness were all great games. To know if an indie game even has a chance at being good, just check to see if the devs are knee deep in drama. If they're having a diarrhea aneurysm on twitter, they're probably part of the social agenda crowd, and unstable people like that cannot into vidya.This is true 100% of the time.
>>340192573
>>340192932
>tfw had classes with with his wife
>tfw she's actually really nicetfw she wished me happy birthday
>>340194405
TASTE MY COCK
ASPHYXIATE ON IT
>>340193624
>/v/ HATES IT SO THAT MEANS I NEED TO AS WELL
Because they're privileged children from a 1st world country who expect everything to be given to them.
>>340193656
Toby Fox
>>340195442
it isn funny anon
>>340195183
>v hates it so I have to love it because I'm a massive contrarian faggot.
>>340193095
my nigga
>>340192698
Most rules have exceptions.
>>340194890
That's strange, because Toby Fox doesn't get involved in any drama shit, yet he's pretty much the poster child for the social agenda crowd.
>>340193656
The deveveloper known as Astro Port. Their games could be best described as "an off brand soda as good as the original, but at 5% of the cost."Infact, Astro Port games have been my recurring GOTY nomination for years.
What sets them apart from other indie devs is how little they care about the cancerous tumor on video games known as "muh story and narrative". You get a basic text scroll that acts as the entire plot, and then you're released into the game. Compare that to "cinematic experiences" like Bayonetta, TLOU, Xenoblade, The Order 1886, Undertale, Uncharted, Metal Gear, and Zelda.
>>340192962
Wow, you've got some problems, buddy.
>>340193656
Croteam.
List some good western (because jap indies are never fags) indie games not made by faggots:
Giana Sisters
Shovel Knight
Valdis Story
Aquaria/Eternal DaughterHatred
Divinity: OS
Juniper's Knot
Ori and the blind forest
>>340195960
>You get a basic text scroll that acts as the entire plot
IM SOLD
Looking into Astro Port right now
>>340196220
Freedom Planet?
>>340195442
>underfags.jpg
>>340194938
>filet of phish
>married
What?
I had the same mindset till I started playing Risk of Rain and Broforce with a friend. Had so much fun playing them, honestly made me happier than recent games have, especially Broforce, seeing all those parodies of action heroes and how hilarious it makes fun of action movies
Do you need a friend anon?
>>340193656
Larian
>>340194207
it was still autistic as fuck, why don't you go play with legos
Indie developers know thier target market well, OP.
>>340196220
Trascendence
Starsector
>>340196536
Because it pisses faggots like you off
>>340196470
It surprised me too.
>>340195960
>>340196237
t. Astro Port
>>340196220
>Hatred
okay, but the game is still ass.
>>340193214
>Dwarf Fortress is pretentious
Toady is too autistic and busy planning new features nobody wants, needs or expects to have time to be pretentious.
The fanbase on /v/ is pretentious though
>>340195960
Tell me more about Star Dock
>>340193656
>lone dev
>refused to fall for the early access meme and only released when he felt the game was ready to be released
>5 patches within little more than a week, including bugfixes as well as little bits of content for common complaints
>manually fixes people's broken saves
>free bonus content patches coming up
>>340193214
Why tho?
Because for every indie band/artist/developer/whatever who has talent but refuses to buy into the system for whatever reason, there's a metric shitload of indie bands/artists/developers/whatevers who are indie because they suck too hard to be picked up by a major label/sponsor/publisher/whatever.
>>340196220
Bastard Bonds.Unless pixelated penises make you uncomfortable or something
cause nobody cares about the good people and AAAAA fanboys want people to hate the indie "enemy" so Ubisoft and Activision are the only "good guys" allowed.
>>340196973
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=ASTRO%20PORT
Basically, their games follow a similar formula.
>you have a weapon/giant robot
>there are things shooting at you
>shoot them back
You don't have a plot shoved down your throat. No political agendas or tumblr terminologies or gender issues or whatever. The game doesn't ask you to cry or have feelings or sit and watch a cutscene for 20 minutes on end. Best of all, multiple difficulties and controller schemes, and about 90% of these games can be bought off of steam, on desura or GOG. So no DRM for those who hate steam.
I'm worried that I'm coming off as a shill right now, but I've seen the worst of this industry, so even small stuff like this comes off as a breath of fresh air.
>>340192573
I don't know but, I would like to slap the shit head who pissed off the jap dev so badly that he put in measure to prevent a good translation.
>>340192962
Yeah because the world of videogames was totally right wing conservatives pre-2014, before the SJWs ruined everything, right?
>>340192654
First post, best post.
>>340197804
What measure?
>>340192654
/bread
>>340197650
id rather have a story than play that bland piece of shit though
what are you, like 90 years old?
>>340198159
You do not belong here
>>340196138
>only the neccesary amount of women on the team, don't care about filling minority quotas
>they only care about fun in their games
>cater to superior PC audiences releasing exclusives, highly moddable games with lots of graphical configurations (see Serious Sam 3)
>>340197848
There's no sjw-conservative dichotomy, the actual dichotomy is sjws-normal people
>>340197848
No. Everything was normal until the left decided to shit where they eat.
>>340196138
Croteam rules
>>340198159
If you prefer games with story, then you'll be guaranteed a "bland piece of shit" every time you play a game.
>>340198039
If you try to insert english in the battle mode it freezes. Thus it led to this game not being taken on for a good long while. Hell even the first game had problems with not capturing spell cards with it not saving and bosses had right didn't have an item due to it not being translated correctly.
>>340192573
A game made by a large company is just a product for selling. There is a detachment from it. Plus they usually have a PR team.
A game made by a small team or one person is a "artistic" personal treasure (or turd).
Humans are egotistical by nature and the world today has conditioned them to be more so. So they believe that everything they do is good and worthy of people's time. They are unable to process criticism or realize its potential benefits. When people confront them and argue that their creation isn't a gift from God then they react strongly. Since they can't take criticism and don't know how to argue their point they can only shout petty insults.
So they come off as shitty and pretentious. Usually justifiably so.
>>340192654
First post best post as usual.
>>340198429
yeah because all games with stories are bland, as opposed to games that just do one thing and one thing only for the entire game
>>340193098
What about Cortex Command?
>>340198527
>>340198003
Stop trying to force this shitty meme, you only noticed that post because it was the first post
Notice my posts instead you faggots
where did it all go wrong?
>>340198343
No, you mean sjws-old people, because your definition of sjw includes pretty much everyone born in the last 25 years
>>340196138
When you think there's only ~30 people in the team and the core 6 founder guys are still there, and they're still able to make great games... God bless Croteam.
>>340198242
>only the neccesary amount of women on the team, don't care about filling minority quotas
>the neccesary amount
No you idiot.
A team should hire people based on their qualities, regardless if they are a man or a woman. There isn't any specified "necessary" amount of women required, only skilled people. If they happened to be all men, yet all competent, then who gives a shit.
>>340198696
What definition, i wasn't aware you were a psych
>>340198629
I'll never notice your post. Now, ignore the (You) I just gave you.
>>340198343
>>340198346
Tech has always been liberal. Your views would mean you would have been seen as a weird far-right nutter by 97% of people working in video games and tech.
Technology is about inventing new shit, sometimes even for the sake of it. It's the opposite to the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' mentality of conservatives and the 'everything was better before people had rights' mentality of the alt-right.
>>340194207
It was still in fucking alpha. That's why it wasn't shit.
It's shit now because it's "finished" with no direction or shit to do. Instead they just slapped whatever "features" they could from popular games at the time.
>>340198684
I left my oven on
>>340198576
>yeah because all games with stories are bland
Now you're getting it!
>as opposed to games that just do one thing and one thing only for the entire game
A jack of all trades is nothing compared to a master of one.
>>340198810
No you idiot.
With neccesary amout of woman I was referring to that
There are lots of AAA shit devs that hire woman just to fill quotas (see. Ubisoft)
I'm glad Croteam hires woman because of their qualities, and not to fill quotas and make shit like Polygon happy
>>340198832
Well I can't be certain that your definition of sjw matches that of nearly everyone else who posts on /v/, so if my assumption was wrong then please forgive me
The majority of /v/ however condemns anyone who holds opinions like below as a sjw
>there's nothing wrong with gay people
>women are people
>black people are people
>hitler was an asshole
>trump is an asshole
These are all majority opinions in today's normal youth. They are not by any means sjw propaganda.
>>340199170
Then next time type more coherently, or don't post at all.
>>340198908
>Your views
You're making a lot of assumptions on top of assumptions and making shit up about politics influencing interests, at this point you are talking to an imaginary person
>>340192573
Not all of them are, but they are more susceptible to being so.
Developers with enough manpower to gain the trust of a larger publisher are usually too big to try and force a social issue into their game with no counter without ruffling their own employee's feathers. Supposedly that's what happened with one of the staff that was working on Bioshock Infinite. That person got uncomfortable with the framing of the religious themes in the original and one of the lead devs ordered a rewrite when that person said they'd quit if the game continued in the direction it was going.
As a result you get detached narratives or counterbalanced narratives.
A single person who didn't get the confidence of a publisher probably doesn't have a very large team, and therefore probably doesn't have as much bureaucracy and oversight hindering them from inserting whatever ideals they hold. They are also liable to see their game which they worked so hard on as an individual with too much personal charm and merit because they aren't distanced enough to see through the eyes of the relatively detached public; treating it more like an art piece than a fucking video game.
>>340192654
Okay, but why?
Being pretentious is cost efficient & easy. Quality craftsmanship is expensive & time consuming.
Why are all indie games 2D?
>>340200812
Because 3D art is unbelievably difficult and time consuming?
Do you people realise that any form of art is going to be influenced by the people making it's own personal views and beliefs?
People don't suddenly become totally objective and unbiased because they are creating something.
>>340196220
everything by ACE Team
most of the games by Ice Pick Lodge
the Legend of Grimrock games
the Sanctum games
The Swapper
Volgarr the Viking
Salt & Sanctuary
The Desolate Hope
Treasure Adventure Game
>>340200812
indie games are, by definition, two dimensional
>>340200812
Because 3D games would have the same dimensions as a penis. Do you want the developer to be raped you misogynistic pig?
>>340200812
Because they don't have the talent and want to make something easy to get free shekels off of, if they were good they'd be in a AAA right now. All Indie makers are hacks, people who were fed up with the company they were in, or retards.
>340193214
>if you like video games you can't comment on video games
ok
>>340201080
>two dimensional penises don't exist
>>340201462
It was a joke anon.
>>340192698
I feel so much gratitude towards this man. I want to buy him a beer and give him money.
>>340193214
>Planescape Torment
How is this game "pretentious" in your opinion?
>>340195960
all you said sounds really nice in Carl's voice
>>340193214
How is Halo 5 pretentious?
>>340201740
I want to give him a hearty handshake for created such great characters
>>340193624
I bet you didn't play the game and are just pissed off about the autistic furry SJW shit.
I don't even blame you. But just go play it anon.
>>340201669
>Not taking every excuse you can get to post dicks
>>340192573
>>340202629
you forgot
>is also a serial rapist who whiteknights on tumblr so he can catch women off guard
>>340198684
What is this?
