Publisher
>Hey everyone, buy this game again!
consumer
>HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WAIT TO BUY THIS GAME FOR THE 2/3/4/5th TIME - HOLY SHIT WE WIN AGAIN BROS
Why do people fall for this?
>>340178249
They really like the game I guess?
Never played it myself, is it any good?
>>340178249
I never played it, I want to and I am on the Ps4
The US never got the expanded version of FF12, so getting that plus visual and further gameplay improvements means a lot to people.
And yes, you could play it on an emulator, but not everyone can set it up (despite being so easy).
Are they actually asking you to buy the game again or is this just an underage who has never heard of expansion packs before?
>>340178690
>Expansion pack for a PS2 game
Finally getting FFXII's great voice acting with decent audio quality is worth it.
I might check it out now that I'm old enough to properly engage the systems
>expecting anyone to want to play FFXII ever again
>>340178878
It's my favorite FF, it's fun as fuck
>>340178878
I liked it desu.
>People that never played the IZJS version of the game and people that never played the game at all don't exist.
>>340178249
>expecting that everyone already played a 10 year old game
>>340178249
it's a week before E3 what do you want SE to announce Final Fantasy XVIII due out in 2028
it's just a quick cash grab to fill a gap in the release schedule between FFXIV's next expansion and FFVIIRpart1 so we don't go a calendar year without a "major" FF release
>>340178249
But I haven't even bought the game once, Anon. My brother bought the PS2 version for me 10 years ago, and I've emulated it several times over the last 5 years.
Will probably pirate it again once it releases on PC, or just wait for it to drop to $20.
>>340178249
I never played it for the Ps2 so its a new game for me.
>>340179692
I also bought it to my brother when it came out.
pc when?
>>340179692
>Will probably pirate it again once it releases on PC
Fuck off.
>>340179961
10 years from now.
Nostalgia sells, anon.
>>340178478
I marathon'd the FF games back to back, and I would say it's one of the best.
>Actually replaying JRPGs
>Wasting 50 hours on something you already experienced.
>>340178878
It's one of the best. Incidentally X is one of the worst.
>>340180583
X is great too, at least for the combat alone.
>>340178249
Final Fantasy XII cast are all mudslims.
Prove me wrong.
>>340178249
It is an improvement of a version we didn't get that was already an improvement
in theory you could just emulate it and get roughly the same results though, not the newly recorded music, interface improvements and etc though
>>340178853
They're not rerecording the voices, m8. It's getting new BGM. The voice quality will be as bad as ever.
>>340178249
Because in 12's case, the game was highly compressed on the PS2. Blurry cutscenes and distorted audio.
This will be the definitive version for people who've never played.
>>340179996
>Getting upset at people not wanting to give more than $20 for updated sound and a prettier interface
>>340180705
More than two of them are blue eyed blondes
>>340178249
KH1.5 and 2.5 were really good not just for the visual improvements but also for the formerly japan-exclusive final mix content
same thing with this
really hope they don't charge $60 for it though.
>>340180847
No I want him to fuck off because he's a PCuck
>>340180880
Also,
>Living in a desert.
>Brown skin
>Bazaar Shops
>Black/Brown hair
Wait is it June?
>>340180956
An even more pathetic excuse for getting booty bothered.
>Implying the PS4 version won't be in the bargain bin before the Steam release is announced anyway
>>340180847
>being so poor that 20 dollars is a big deal
>>340178249
Cause new games are shit.
>>340181394
>Spending more money on things than they're worth
This is how you get poor, Anon.
>>340178249
I got this game when it came out because my brother got it as a gift for his birthday and I barely got through half of it. I'll gladly by an improved version now. Why do you think people who buy it have already played it OR have bought it multiple times already? Honestly fucking retarded. There's literally nothing wrong with remastering games.
>>340181394
That FFX "remaster" looks like garbage. For how much more advanced FF12 was, it will probably be much worse.
>>340181456
FF12 was one of the worst games in the genre, bro.
>>340181839
>That FFX "remaster" looks like garbage
Shhh, don't tell him that. He probably bought the game three times.
I don't get the hate towards HD versions of PS2 games.
>>340181839
It doesn't look like garbage just some faces look weird and wrong. It's hardly a problem, it plays good and doesn't have issues which is all that matters. Still the same damn game.
>>340181981
People hate that others are excited for games.
>>340178878
I didn't like xii, but I'll play through it again just cause the stuff I liked were really well done, such as all the neutral/evil characters and balthier, some cool weapon design, and the zodiac summons were mostly cool.
>Why do people buy the car, every year they release a new model of the same damn car.
>>340178249
>been waiting for a HD version
feelin gud
>>340181496
>have a good enough job I could literally burn hundreds of dollars a month if I wanted
Not everyone else flips burgers pleb
Are we gonna be forced to use the fucking job system or can we make a choice?
>>340181839
>graphics are the only thing that matters
Found the pcuck
The game is ten years old, by that time a whole new generation of kids have grown up and are likely playing most of these games for the first time. They may as well make them more readily available with better graphics, audio and trophy support.
Not everyone has played it. I rented it from Blockbuster and some asshole wrecked the disc.
Also, consumers control the market, not demand. If it won't sell, they will stop.
>>340178249
>decent former exclusive game is now multiplat
why not buy it if you haven't played it before?
>>340182293
oh yeah but Uncharted 4 is a master piece
>>340182187
So could I, but I don't because I'm not a child who hasn't learned how to be responsible with his finances.
Do you burn hundreds of dollars a week? Because by your own logic, if you don't you must be a poor burger flipper. Go on, Anon, go withdraw every last bit of your savings and burn it. You'll just make it back with your awesome job, right? What's the harm? You're not poor, are you?
>>340182745
It's gunna be on the Xbone?
>>340183068
wouldn't be surprised.
do this:
>go to playstation's youtube channel
>pic a trailer of a game that you know is multiplat
>magically only playstation platform logos are present at the end of the trailer
>>340178249
FF XII IZJS wasn't released in the West. Has there even been another release of this game?
>>340180774
>>340178853
I seem to recall an interview where they talked about the vocal quality being intentional (or at least semi intentional) because it was fed through a telephone-like line before it was recorded. Can't seem to find the interview so there's that though.
>>340183002
Withdraw what and why, it still stands that I can burn money while still covering my rent bills and food and still save
Why do you think disposable income is called disposable income
And if a price tag of 20 dollars immediately makes you think you have to pirate something then yes you are a poor fag
>>340182881
Not really, it's solid but not amazing
>>340178249
But will it include the best handheld FF?
The game is the worst final fantasy since FF 13 anyways. Smug pepe contrarians will claim it's the best, when throughout the years you can read the general consensus on /v/: ff12 sucks dick
I rather liked it. I was hoping to play it again at some point, but I couldn't be arsed to go out and get it (and the updated versions weren't available my end).
I'm assuming that an updated version is on its way? For PC, perhaps?
whay about the ds spinoff?
>>340183556
>I can burn money while still covering my rent bills and food and still save
So can I, but I'm not going to buy things for more than I feel they're worth, you fucking moron.
If someone offered you a sandwich for $20 that was only worth $3, would you buy it just because you had disposable income and could?
>>340183962
>V being right about quality
Did you see all the overwatch cocksucking the past few weeks
>>340184132
>concept of worth
However you need to justify it to yourself
So does Zodiac Job System do anything to fix FFXII's mess of a story?
>>340178249
I never played it, it's a good chance for me to do so.
>>340184401
>FFXII's story
>a mess
>>340180774
>new BGM
that is great. one of the many problems it has besides story, gameplay and everything else.
pls remove effect capacity
>>340178249
>The 10/10 version of an amazing game gets released with better graphics
not seeing the problem here t bh
>HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WAIT TO BUY THIS GAME FOR THE 2/3/4/5th TIME - HOLY SHIT WE WIN AGAIN BROS
No, it's more like
>this shit is stupid it'll get ported to pc i'll wait for the steam sale thanks for beta testing pscucks it's not like i really wanted it anyway
>Not PC
Durnit.
>>340184812
TBF, the main character of the game didn't exist until a certain point in its development, because devs thought that people (read: young Japanese girls) would not take to an older bloke as readily as a young bishie.
>>340179996
I pirated all the final fantasy games on pc, you mad?
if it's the international version then atleast it's different to the original release but honestly it's worse.
>12 jobs
>6 characters
>locked to each job
>6 jobs you'll never experience for the entire game
>>340185410
>Not PC
Good
>>340178249
It's a version of the game the west never got before (Unless you emulated it)
Also, I've never played it so checkm8 Opie.
>>340185447
The game has New Game Plus for that.Haha ;^)
You bet sweet Vaan ass I'm ready.
>The Death of Lord Rasler Heios Nabradia was but one of many Tragedies to befall the Kingdom of Dalmasca.
>The Air of Hope that had surrounded H.R.H. Princess Ashe's Wedding was now quite lost: Dalmasca had been set adrift at the Mercy of History's restless Tides.
>At this Time, two Great Empires struggled for Dominion over Ivalice: Archadia in the East, Rozarria the West.
>The Invasion of the Kingdom of Nabradia was Archadia's first Step in its westward March.
>With Lord Rasler's beloved Homeland consumed by the Hell-Fires of War, it seemed clear that Archadia would soon mete out a like Fate to Dalmasca.
>The Fall of the Fortress at Nalbina tolled the Destruction of the greater part of Dalmasca's Forces.
>A Counter-Attack was mounted by the Order of the Knights of Dalmasca, ever Brave and Faithful, but against the martial Might of the Archadian Armies, they stood little Chance of Victory.
>Indeed, their defeat was to be absolute.
>Soon thereafter, Archadia came forward offering Terms of Peace. Or, as one might rather put it, Terms of Dalmasca's Surrender.
>Lord Raminas, King of Dalmasca-and my Dear Friend - had no Choice but to accept these Terms. It was, thus, only with Reluctance that He set out for Nalbina Fortress - now under Archadian Occupation to affix His Seal to the Emperor's Treaty of Peace.
>The King had scarce departed His Royal City of Rabanastre when the Remnants of the Order made their Return. And not a Moment too soon, for a terrible Revelation awaited them.
>The Treaty would be signed with Steel and Writ in royal Blood.
>>340183907
REVENANT WINGS WAS A MISTAKE
>>340183907
If it does, I'd expect the story transplanted into the regular XII gameplay, instead of an isometric Line Defense game.
>>340178249
I don't pay for torrents though.
>>340178249
>all the forced contrarianism ever since it was announced
It's sad at this point, really.
>>340185802
>mfw I read it in his voice
>>340181870
Of the Genre or the Generation? Because you are absolutely wrong in both accounts.
>>340186054
>contrarianism
What? XII's always had a very mixed reception.
>>340186218
Genre. It's an absolute abomination of a JRPG, and a complete waste of a game.
But to say that it's one of the worst on the PS2 when shit like DMC2 or Orphan exists is just ignorant.
>>340184825
>that is great. one of the many problems it has besides story, gameplay and everything else.
KILL YOURSELF
>>340185802
I STILL HEAR HIS FUCKING VOICE FUCK ME
40/40 FAMITSU
>>340186443
>Orphan
It wasn't that bad..
Just kidding I haven't played that shit since release. So I don't remember fuck all about it anymore.
>>340178878
FF12 is the peak of modern final fantasy
They actually set out to update the JRPG formula to something modern and that would actually compete in the marketplace.
Too bad all the autistic aspies who play final fantasy got upset there weren't pop concerts or little mermaid songs to sing along with and got upset.
>>340186443
>one of the worst on the PS2
>>340183907
Holy fuck that game was atrocious.
Post your most anticipated remastered track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVYHhcYWttY
>>340178878
I really enjoyed it.
>>340186779
>reading comprehension
Don't you have some "critical thinking" homework to do?
>>340186764
Otaku ruined vidya like they ruined anime. They want devs to cater to their shitty niche taste.
HOLY SHIT, XII ON PC! I can't wait to buy this for the third time!
Really. They release these ports for like $20 and I have the convenience of having them on my PC. It's a win/win.
>>340178249
Never played the international version, so, why not?
>Toriyama's shit-fest ends
>XIV on track to announce 4.0
>XV finally releasing
>XII remaster
Square Enix is slowly winning back my trust.
>>340186764
To be fair 12 did also suffer from being unfinished. Probably the only core entry where it's really obvious that's the case.
Nothing will fix the sense of loss for what could have been with FFXII, but it's got my favourite female protagonist in FF history. EXCITE
>mfw same people who threw shitfit about FF12's combat are now probably singing praises about FF15's action combat
>>340183907
That game was so low it physically hurt me to play it.
>>340187335
Only in story, anon. The ending was rushed, but it was in no way bad.
Content wise, even vanilla XII had the rest of the series beat. IZJS is in a league of it's own.
>>340187487
slow''
>>340187446
which I think may be what gets people to look more favorably on ff12's combat, which was something all the braindead retards complained about back in the day because IT'S DIFFERENT when it was in fact literally ATB with movement. now that action final fantasy is no longer heresy it may get warmer reception.
>>340185861
>>340186798
>>340187487
There's a reason why it was bad. It was directed by Toriyama. He took Ivalice, covered it in shit, and built his waifu-topia shitcastle.
>>340187686
>ATB with movement.
ADB use the right word, don't trigger my autism.
>>340187535
>Content wise, even vanilla XII had the rest of the series beat. IZJS is in a league of it's own.
More than half of it is probably optional, though.
>>340186779
I'm the anon he was replying to, and even I understood what he meant there.
>>340186443
I would like to know what your criteria is for what you'd say is the opposite of "absolute abomination of a JRPG". Please, educate me there.
>>340180583
>X is one of the worst
At least in X I felt like I was actually playing the game rather than just moving my characters from location to location and falling asleep on the controller once the combat started
>>340187686
I'm concerned that it'll get complaints about not being as 'flashy' or 'fluid' as XIII. Also difficulty, if someone stupidly picks a party without a white mage or archer.
>>340187335
Can't wait.
>>340178878
You seriously overestimate how many people played FF12, especially the IZJS. That alone is a reason to get the game because it's not just A re-release, it's a re-release most never got to play. And don't give me emulation talk. For most people that's still arcane sorcery and "doesn't feel right" or whatever.
>>340180583
i'd hate to have your shitty taste
>>340188005
yeah just sitting there pressing X because the combat was so insultingly easy sure is "playing"
at least gambits required thought to some extent, you were probably too stupid to play XII
>>340187801
Yes, which means it isn't shoved down your throat.
>>340188068
I actually disagree, FF12 is much more fluid than FF13. At least in a sense you have direct control so your characters don't get stuck in AoE attacks because they're braindead.
Wait, so is this just IZJS with better graphics?
>>340178878
This guy's got it right. XII is absolute shit.
>>340187446
This struggle is futile. You must know where it leads! Basch
>>340185802
his voice is burned in my brain forever
>>340188136
>too stupid to play XII
Pray tell what deep and complex tactics are required to beat XII not saying the other Final Fantasies aren't brain dead but I'd rather spam quick hit than watch my characters win the game without my input
Most of the west never even got the chance to buy this game a second time since IZJS never came over here OP.
I'm excited.
>>340188005
Go to options, set the battle speed to the fastest setting and turn off battle menu pause.
Oh, and try to make it past golmore before shitposting.
they better fix Vaan's abs
>>340186507
:')
it was a good game to be absent minded though. it played itself.
>>340188136
I think a lot of people are in for an awakening because they probably think FF12 plays itself by default. Yeah sure, that can be the case if you set up Gambits to work like that, but there's nothing forcing you to not play the game like any other ATB FF.
>>340188210
I agree that 12 is more flowing in terms of gambits to player input, but 13 is definitely more fluid in execution. Not that it's a positive thing, but some people might miss the action camera and fast-paced paradigm switching.
>>340187446
I played a lot of FFXI back in the day, and I've people describe the combat similar to it.
If true, I'll like the combat.
>>340188351
>You see guys if you turn off features the game is actually really hard!
>>340188136
>implying that XII is a difficult game
Hahahah holy fuck dude. You can literally drop about 90% of the bosses in the game to 1/3 health without them ever getting a chance to fight back if you spam quickenings.
>next year
>pc release probly a year after
Fuck they gonna do on steam then? We seriously getting a whole slew of spin offs and side games before 12?
Goddamnit it was the last one i wanted. At least this means tactics and dissidia sooner
>>340178878
I have played this game from the start at least a dozen times in all regions
I keep hearing that IZJS "fixes everything" with this game, but does it really? I didn't enjoy XII much at all because the exploration felt really unfulfilling (the fucking randomized loot ruined it for me) and the characters were all basically the same with one loadout (sword&board) being the obvious best and magic just generally being shit outside of buffs.
>>340188810
Vanilla is hard, IZJS is what you describe. You can still play the new game+ at the end of the game if you want some challenge.
>>340188351
I still refuse to believe that you can get anywhere with just gambits, but the elder wyrm in golmore jungle acts as a casual filter. You're introduced to the oil status effect which can't be esuna'd, and there a bunch of other status effects that force player input and gambit adaption.
>>340181839
>>340189002
>characters were all basically the same with one loadout (sword&board) being the obvious best and magic just generally being shit outside of buffs.
It fixes this I think
The exploration hasn't changed
>>340183962
>FFXII
>the worst FF since FFXIII
???
Why do people bitch about remasters so much? If you don't like something, don't give them your money.
>>340189243
>Why do people want things to be good so they can enjoy them?
>>340178249
>the entire catalog is flooded with all sorts of Japanese games that are announced
>none of them are coming to PC
What's the point of even owning a computer? It's 6th gen all over again, all the good games are already on consoles while PC has nothing but garbage.
Might start a brand new game though.
Recommended jobs?
Lv1 or Lv99 mode?
Trail mode?
Grind like hell at the beginning stages of the game?
>>340186963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAsJL5Dt6k
>>340189091
Wow so you have to set a single extra gambit to cure oil? Pretty tough.
>>340178249
XII is one of my least favorite FF games and I still enjoyed the hell out of it. Never got to try the Zodiac version, so I'll definitely be getting this.
>>340189002
IZJS lets you choose classes for each character, with each class having a license board shaped like the zodiac sign it's attributed with. Magic is still fucking OP, but the casters are squishy. IZJS also adds a turbo button, which lets you speed up traveling and combat.
The loot isn't randomized, there's just a percentage on each chest for normal looting and diamond armlet looting.
>>340186963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tjNeaU-xFk
>>340181839
>For how much more advanced FF12 was, it will probably be much worse.
Producer: Hiroaki Kato
Director: Takashi Katano
Art Direction: Ryotaro Takahashi (CGStyle)
Technical Direction: Seiki Iwamura
Game Design: Jun Akiyama
Composer: Hitoshi Sakimoto (Basiscape)
Music Editor: Keiji Kawamori
Sound Effect Direction: Tomohiro Yajima
Movie Direction: Kazuyuki Ikumori
Supervisor: Hiroyuki Ito, Hiroshi Minagawa
Get a bit of Inhouse
>>340178249
So the PC version is coming soon right?
Emulation means never having to worry about a non-HD port, but it could be interesting to get an overhauled game, even if it's just graphically.
>>340189704
>Japan
>caring about PC
>>340189474
You need a handkerchief to cure oil. Then you would need to attack your own party member to get rid of confuse and sleep, cast esuna any amount of times to get rid of sap, poison and blind, use an echo herb on your caster to get rid of silence, and deal with oil+fireball healing at the same time.
You don't have enough gambit slots for that.
>>340189810
Japanese PC ports have been coming unexpectedly lately. Sure Japan doesn't care about pc, but they know it's a market. And again, if they don't no big deal, the game's been playable through emulation for years.
>>340189939
>Japanese PC ports have been coming unexpectedly lately
Ports of old games, mind you, nothing particularly recent.
>>340188342
The most interesting character in the series as far as convictions go.
Dual Audio?
>>340189887
Remedy: Any
Handkerchief: Any (If you haven't leveled your remedy license)
There you go, bro.
>release game with mechanics no one likes
>release a follow-up that fixes the problem
>make it nip only
T-thanks square
>>340186963
...God, fuck, there's just too many. Such an amazing soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIcI70Ve-f0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M5ivckBPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWgc1pSMCMw
Not to mention the Opening and Ending Movie themes too... fuuuuuuck I can't wait.
>>340190084
Yep you're right, like the HD remaster of another Final Fantasy game.
>>340190148
>elder wyrm
>level 23
Nice try.
>>340190162
The biggest fix comes with restraining the license board, something that you could self-impose on yourself without it.
Maybe, and don't lose your fucking shit here, maybe because:
The admittance fee to getting the game has already been earned several thousand times over since you last bought it, people work and make money and can do with it as they please, get a fucking life.
>>340190116
Yes, it's confirmed.
Only retards would listen to the Japanese dub, though. It's bland and, quite frankly, poorly done.
It's about time. Getting a copy of FFXII was really annoying.
>>340190084
>Final Fantasy XV’s PC port would be “far superior” if Square Enix gets around to it
I have a gigantic boner after hearing this news. Ordinarily I only have a little micropeen, but I gained like five inches just hearing this news
>>340190430
>Square
>good ports
Well if you're Durante and want to praise a game for simply booting up as the best port ever, then yeah, Square is pretty good.
>>340190359
I'd like to shake the hand of whoever pitched the idea to have theatrical actors portray video game characters.HIS TIME IS NIIIIIGH
>>340187183
It's PS4 only.
>>340189810
There will probably be a PC port.
Squeenix has been fucking around with porting i would guess in anticipation of XV so that they can make that a good port, unlike what they've released so far.
They're starting to get decent at it though
>>340190672
I agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s0szVTP5fk
For people who have never heard the generic trash that is FFXII in Japanese.
>>340190672FOR NABUDIS
>>340190870
I don't think XII will be any better. It seems like any Square game that's developed primarily for PS consoles has a 30FPS hard cap, while anything was was for Xbox can run at 60FPS. That is true for any game made for PS consoles first, I don't think there's a single Xbox port that was capped at 30FPS.
>>340190672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbu_VLSzMWk
>>340190672
I have a boner for Gabranth talking about making Basch miserable.
>>340190148
Not him, but you'd run out of remedies real fucking fast if you use it for everything. Not to mention being limited by jobs in the IZJS version.
>>340190672
Theater actors get the job DONE. See also:Dark Souls series.
Fuck Nolan Meme and Troy Faker.
>>340191081
Because the bone is trash and if you made a technically demanding game on a ps4 and tried to port it to it. It would end with a sub-20 shitfest. Pushing performance on the One and then porting it everywhere else is easier.
>>340190672
from what i heard, most of the voice actors are new
>>340191382
Stop hating on Nolan the guys great. Nolan as Vashyron alone proves it.
>>340178878
All the people getting baited by the 10 guys that love it for whatever reason are in for a rude awakening.
>>340191437
I meant Xbox as in OG and 360. What I also meant was, FFXIII can run at 60FPS, and it was also designed for the 360. Type 0 is capped at 30FPS, and that was a port of a next gen "remaster" of a PSP game. The Last Remnant was a 360 game ported to PC, and that has uncapped framerate, while FFX HD is a next gen port of a last gen remaster of a PS2 game.
>>340191147
The part where Basch calls him Noah still gives me goosebumps. They somehow managed to convey sadness through a big heavy mask.
>>340180705
to be honest, FFXII setting was a mixture between ancient Mediterranean civilization and ancient middle east.
>>340178249
Boss Theme of The Zodiac Age:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_h-JxjsqGM
>>340191791
>FFXIII can run at 60FPS, and it was also designed for the 360
What? The 360 port of FFXIII runs like shit with inferior textures and models to the PS3 version that NEVER drops a frame and is v-synced while the 360 has tearing.
>>340191802
This is the voice of Gabranth. Is this some next level typecasting or am I just imagining he looks similar?
>>340190976YOUR SHIELD IS SHATTERED
>>340178772
idk what else id call izjs
>>340178878
I don't, that fucking FF11 gameplay, that shitty story, that terrible character design, the worse FF hands down.
>>340188136
>gambits required some thought
>>340192124
there is something about the FFXII boss theme that is so good but I just cannot nail it down.
>>340188810
woah....just like all FF games.....damn
>>340190672
It's even more impressive because they had literally no idea what they were recording in-context. They just sat them in a booth and they recorded lines.
>>340192124
If those are rearranged songs I can't say I hate them. FF10 rearranged soundtrack sucked bad, but this seems to be decent.
>>340193009
It's Hitoshi Sakimoto, he's never written a bad score in his whole career.
>>340190890
>Male voices sound way better in English, Balthier and Basch in particular being top tier
>Females sound much better in Japanese, the english side suffering from fitting their lines to the JP lip sync in these particular clips
>Fran sounds good either way
>>340192124
Who arranged the soundtrack?
>>340185802
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>>340193417
He also plays is safe for most of his compositions. It's the sameface of music.
>>340193417
What was the last game that he's done?
>>340193462
Obviously the original composer, as the FFXII soundtrack is too layered to be arranged by a third party and have even matching quality with the original.
>>340179692
Why is that wolf so smug?
I really liked this game, but my ps2 died half way through and I didn't want to repeat the first 30 hours of the game on an emulator. I'm pretty excited to play this game and not look like muddy shit
>>340189679
I was worried about the graphics and music being poorly altered like FFX-HD. I'm glad that isn't the case.
I'll probably buy it if it comes to PC (likely), especially if the voice acting is uncompressed.
>>340193567
According to vgmbb, Final Fantasy Explorers(2014) is his latest original score besides that he's done three arrange albums in this year only.
>>340192940
>letting 2 people die on a midboss
>using pause battle menu
Nice cherrypick, try posting ultima or elder wyrm next time.
>>340193550
>sameface of music.
>not Uematsu or Sakuraba
You love electric organs, don't you?
>>340194336
Don't lump Uematsu with Sakuraba.
>Demon's Souls fucking A++ OST compared to Dark Souls
and then DaSII, fuck.
>>340194336
Yeah, forgot about Sakuraba.
>>340194427
Sakuraba didn't compose the Demon's Souls OST. It was composed by Shunsuke Kidaa movie composerAnd you can easily hear the difference in quality.
>>340192124
This sounds good.
XII's arranged soundtrack will probably sound better than X's since it was already orchestrated or at least sounded like it.
>>340194735
I know, that's what I meant. Kida being a film composer is probably what did it.
To be fair to Sakuraba, DaS has a pretty good OST and it's more "fun" to listen to, and DaSII's is poor by comparison largely due to the lack of a live orchestra.
>tfw that 30 minute fight against yiazmat
>tfw towards the end he does so much damage it'd oneshot the characters so I turned off all gambits except raising because it wasn't worth buffing or healing anymore
>>340194823
XII OST is a high quality synth orchestra. Staple style of the composer though executed brilliantly with tracks like the Cerobi Steppe.
>>340195035
>30 minutes
try 30 hours
>>340193550
I've always found Uematsu's work to be mediocre, because it mainly relies on catchy melodies. It's like pop music.
Sakimoto's work has so much going on in it, but still comes out as an atmosphere-heavy masterpiece.
>>340195035
>30 minute
In what bizzaro time continuum?
>>340194427
>Sakuraba.
>>340194336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0or0nEy2ps
>>340195236
>I've always found Uematsu's work to be mediocre
I've never seen a more hipster post in all my time here.
>>340178878
It is the hipster pick on /v/ for FF. The hivemind loves it for whatever reason.
>>340195236
Yeah Uematsu is pretty repetitive with whole albums depending on a catchy leitmotiv to carry them. Sakuraba fortunately never went that way.
>>340195179
Did it take that long? I farmed some sasuke blades before to speed it up
>>340190672
>>340195314
Why is all the popular jrpg music these days fast drums with piano and guitar?
Looking at you, Bravely series.
>>340195153
The synth version of the boss theme is much better than both the orchestral version on the OST and the new one, desu.
>>340195236
Remember that Uematsu is from the olden days of vidya when nearly all OSTs relied on catchy melodies due to hardware limitations.
He and others like Yuzo Koshiro are still very good at what they do.
>>340195314
That's straightforward JRPG music, nothing special.. Sakuraba can be good (see certain tracks on Dark Souls, for example) when he isn't phoning it in
It's not going to fix the game and Square Enix's stained repuation that was revealed because of it.
Why are people excited for anything out of SE anyway? What is the appeal?
>>340195314
Yeah that's what I'm talking about when I'm bashing Motoi "Eclectic Organ Hack" Sakuraba.
>>340195345
>I don't like one body of work that came out 30 years ago
>FUCKING HIPSTERSHIT
I don't like The Beatles, but I don't burn albums like you probably do.
Reminder that the cancelled FF 12 sequel wouldve had
Basch be the main character
Basch fall in love with Ashe
Basch getting inprisoned again
Ashe fucking Larsa and marrying him while Basch sacrifices himself to save the world
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-canceled-final-fantasy-xii-sequel-narrative-an/1100-6431040/
>>340195518
in vanilla 12 i went in with 3 characters with yagyu dark blades and it took about 5 hours
i actually just left it afk and let the gambits handle the situation
>>340195345
Dancing mad was pretty good, home sweet home is a personal favourite.
The rest gets old after about 3 minutes of listening.
>>340195596
>Yuzo Koshiro
He's too underrated his Wangan albums are masterpieces wasted on that shitty series. I literally use the OST's from those games in every racing game now.
>>340192940
>overleveling
>wh-why is this game so easy guys?
It's a problem with all RPGs. You can easily bypass the intentional difficulty with grinding.
>>340195540
>I dedicate my life to shit on Japanese games
>>340195415
>The hivemind loves it
/v/ likes it because of Matsuno, you dislike it because you presumably love Nomura or dislike the series entirely, the latter of which I cannot fault you for.
I played Final Fantasy XII once and will never play it again if only for respect for Matsuno.
This bullshit is just pissing on the gravestone.
>>340196143
A lot of the crap people think was shoved on Matsuno for FFXII was, in fact, of his own design. The badass manly Vagrant Story style game never got beyond the idea stage.
>>340195236
Yeah, I think it's more about Sakimoto making atmospheric music which is kinda rare when you think about it because in Japanese video game music it seems to be more about the melody or very specific theme you're going for with. Music that reinforces other things and sits comfortably in the background is relatively uncommon.
>>340195798
That wasn't a sequel, that was the original narrative before Square Enix literally rewrote it because of a demographics poll.
>>340178249
Collector Version?
I can't wait to play this part again.Except I am not.
12 is the best 3D FF games, might even be the best FF game overall. Will double dip on a Steam port of it
>>340196317
I can't wait to explore it's basement again
Sakimoto's orchestral work outside of FFXII, FFTA and VC is pretty darn bland. I've listened to all of his soundtracks in order to find something as rich, varied and evocative as these as 95% of what I found was orchestral porridge just as bad as Sakuraba's orchestral porridge. FFXII, FFTA and VC are great as hell though.
Uematsu is melodic, but not more melodic than basically any other JRPG composer. He's good at restraint, capturing atmospheres with more minimalistic tracks and not composing archetypes as much as other composers. His music works better in-game, but is played in concerts because he's well known.
Sakuraba's losing it, but his good stuff is still incredible.
>>340195636
he did a good job on Baten Kaitos series though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O0XE8w5glY
>Battle system is too much like an MMO, and the Gambit system essentially does all the work for you
>Uninteresting and impersonal story
>world full of non-human races, and a party of only humans except 1 bunnygirl
>Vayne is a dull politician who just talks too much but doesn't even say anything interesting, and is so far removed that we don't even know why he is the main antagonist. No one in the party even has a personal vendetta with him
>Vaan and Penelo are entirely useless
>Lack of character interaction. It's awkward to see a band of characters that barely seem to know each other, even at the end
>Licenses a shit
>Environments are boring
>Game feels incomplete with sidestories that go nowhere
