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HOW IS THIS FUCKINGAME EVEN POPLUAR
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HOW IS THIS FUCKINGAME EVEN POPLUAR
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>>340167520
"""""""""""""lore""""""""""""
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PC gamers don't have anything else to play.
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>>340167520
Its quite simple, people play it because their friends are playing it, get suckered in to buying skins, and then refuse to put the game down lest the $1000 spent on skins be a waste.
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>>340167520
>awesome power
>awesome
toppokeki da
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>>340167938
this, league is like WoW after vanilla/BC, where you just log in to stand in stormwid or ironforge doing absolutely NOTHING, because there was no games to play and nothing to do
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your ebin cropping isnt even funny and you're literally complaining about nothing
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>>340167520
It's a time killer. Literally nothing else. The reason the newest character has less Lore is Riot thinks (THINKS) No one wants to read when they could just hop into a 30 to 40 minute match and click around. I've played since Beta, and always enjoyed the work they put into lore, no matter how bad it was. I know people who play now who don't even know that lore exists on the characters. Riot is just putting their resources where there is more interest.

Almost like it's a business or something.
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League has lore?
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This happens because people are too noob and casual for dota
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>>340167520
Because it's free. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>340168340
It had when journal of justice n champion judgements were around
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>>340168340
It does, and some people actually care about it too. I remember seeing streams with people playing while roleplaying as the characters.
Cringe to some, awesome to others i guess.
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>>340167520
Game itself isn't bad,just full of toxic gamefags
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>>340168524
>>340168542

Weird

I sunk way too much time and money into that game
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>>340167938
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>>340167520
>teemo
>One of the first characters
>has a little short story length of lore
>Aurelion
>one fucking paragraph
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>>340168497
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>>340169027
Mad cuz I'm right?
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teemo is also stronger and more useful
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>>340167520

>lorefags
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>>340167520
>Now, he is forced to wield his awesome power
>His awesome power
>Awesome power
>Awesome

I have no words.
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why are doturds always so angry?
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>>340168307
What sort of business constantly fucks with their current userbase in hopes of attracting new users?
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>LoL becomes so bad even it's biggest dicksucker Dunkey leaves.

I never understood why people would play this over Dota 2.
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>>340167520
Most video game lore is cringy in general.
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>>340170145
>Thinking it's always only Dota players who think League of Legends is a fucking shit game with shit developers.

Why? Aren't people who don't play Dota allowed to know and discuss how fucking awful League is?
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>>340170017
Being able to forge stars would be awe inspiring, hence awesome.
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>>340170363
>>340170145

If anything, the biggest whiners about League are League players themselves.
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>>340170245
Not enough waifu
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>>340167520
well they are remaking the lore and they have a allot of written lore for aurelion sol its not shown on the launcher but on the website
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>>340170245
I never understood why people play Dota 2.
>>340170363
>>340170465
>this damage control
kek
Why do you kids have such shit taste? All mobafaggotry should be banned.
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>>340167520
STAR FORGER
T
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F
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Aurelion Sol actually DOES have long-form lore, it's just tied in with the Targon event and kept on their website instead of the client, like they've been doing with most new characters now, which is retarded.

If you're gonna criticize a game at least do it right.
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>>340170465
Yeah it's because the game is completely unbalanced trash. The matchmaking is all fucked up now. Not because of this dynamic queue everyone complains about, but because no matter what every ranked game consists of you winning a bunch of games in a row, then riot pairs you with people haven't won in a year and you lose.
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I mean the real question is, how the fuck do we kill this game?
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>>340170826
>I never understood why people play Dota 2.
Because Riot nerfed my waifu into uselessness.
I also stopped playing dota for the same reason
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>>340170017
>he can create stars
>this inspires awe from those beneath him
>therefore its awesome

Are you retarded?
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>>340171036
Just like WoW, Riot's doing a good enough job killing their game themselves.
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>>340170854
Yeah line Azir has two pages of lore but in client it's another paragraph.
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>>340167520
Well I play smite. The lore is gud.
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>>340170570
1920:1080 is also dominant.
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>>340168108

That was actually proper use of "awesome"
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>Introduce sweeping changes to change the meta
>One champion becomes horrendously OP to the point he must be instantbanned
>60% winrate
>Same champion becomes nerfed to the ground next patch
>40% winrate
>Wash and repeat

This is why I laugh at people who have "mains"
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>>340171191
But the lore is already established by religious folklore.
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>>340171036
Casualize the game to normalfags who won't spend a penny on the game instead of the whales with 1000+ games and hundreds of dollars invested.

>>340170854
This desu.

>>340171191
Smite lore is literally mythology. Of course its good.
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>>340171191
The lore is good because it already exists from hundreds of years ago, and hasn't been made-up by the developers.
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>>340171429
Look at that joke, so far up in the sky
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>>340171516
Do you suffer from severe brain damage?
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>>340171489
>>340171429
>slow clap
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>>340171293
I have been playing Gangplank since he was a Q spam trash.

He was nerfed 5 consecutive times after his rework, and I still have 100% winrate on ranked games with him.
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>>340170017
>I have no words

I don't doubt it.
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>>340171614
?
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>>340168791
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>shitty RTS
>shitty RTS
>""realistic"" FPS
>shitty RTS
>kickstarter indie game
>shitty grinding MMO
>kickstarter indie game
>shitty grinding MMO
>kickstarter indie game
>""realistic"" FPS
>vaporware MMO
>shitty grinding MMO
>shitty grinding MMO
>kickstarter indie game
>shitty walking simulator DLC
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>VN
>kickstarter indie game
>F2P racing shovelware
>F2P racing shovelware
>kickstarter indie game
>kickstarter indie game
>shitty RTS
etc etc etc

>0x10c
lel

I think you get the picture.
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>>340171593
No,do you?
It should have been fairly obvious that it had a hint of sarcasm.

>playing mobas for the lore
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>>340171593
Do you? Because the joke is apparently so far above your head its obtained orbit.
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>>340170223
Under normal circumstances I would say a bad one, but League is the most played Moba in the world, and one of the single most played online games, so while I don't agree with it it's apparently working for them. I guess to answer your question, the only business that would do that is one that is so successful it doesn't matter to them what happens to their fans.
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>>340171293
Or the classic riot double mixup.

>champ has 40% win rate for 3 years
>rework champion
>within a month said champion has a 60 percent win rate in 2 roles and is hyper cancer tier
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>>340168340
the deepest
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>>340171710
kek

Better than no games
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>>340171710
So "indie game" is a genre? What kind of game play do "indie games" have?
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>>340171681
ya i dont get it either ? ? ?
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>>340167520

>putting back stories on MOBA characters when there isn't even a fucking story mode. All you do is kill creeps, shit on towers, and destroy bases

MOBA players are fucking retarded. The epitome of the worst of the worst gaming communities. None of it makes any sense. Not even Blizzard is bothering putting too much backstory on anything in Overwatch because how would it even make any sense or have any relevancy to the game's structure?
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>>340171857
Did they actually simplify Cassiopeia's lore? Fucking why?
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>>340170017
Awesome is used properly there. Just because people say awesome all the time doesn't make the word instantly cringe worthy. It's like how kids sue the word 'epic' for eevrything, so suddenly that means nothing can actually be epic? Clearly you're retarded. Forging stars inspires awe, so it's awesome. Pick up a book, faggot.
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>>340171881
Pixel art \ Late 90s graphics, made in Unity, gimmicky, incomplete, buggy, alternates between platforming \ CRPG \ RTS.
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>>340171681
I think it's pretty obvious that he was saying that the lore is good with a slightly joking tinge.

That being said, hi rez did take the lazy route lore and champion-wise.
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>>340167520
I hate mobas now but
>mfw remembering playing teemo
>mfw playing singed
>mfw insta-gibbing people with veigar
>mfw dual lane pushing with sivir
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>>340171710
>N-No t-those don't count
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>>340172045
yes and at this point it would be easier to make her a character from shurima
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>Jhin is a meticulous criminal psychopath who believes murder is art.

Who writes this shi.
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>>340172128
Not him.
>pixel art is gameplay
>A game being made in Unity is gameplay
>The state of being incomplete is gameplay
>Being buggy is gameplay
>That last bit actually is gameplay, but skewed in a way to suggest ALL Indie games are hybrid platformers, Computer RPGs, and Real Time Strategy
That last bit is the only thing that pertains to his post, but is also an outright lie AND sounds pretty fucking awesome.
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>>340172563
Jhin is actually one of the better written characters in the game.
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>>340172563
I don't see what's wrong with it.
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>>340168791
>World of Darkness
>Cube World
>Star Citize
>Mew-Genics
>Starbound
>0x10c
>Starforge

Couldn't be bothered to check all the other shovelware on this list, but all the above games either don't exist or are unplayable.
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Hate how people generalize MOBA as dota and league.

Dota doesn't suffer a lot of the problems league has when you call it an ARTS
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>>340172896
Starbound is out brah.
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>>340172563
Jhin is actually exceedingly well written. A lot of how he behaves is how psychopaths actually behave in real life.
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>>340172896
>Don't exist or are unplayable
You mean aren't/will never be released or are unfinished as hell.
Cause all of those technically exist.
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>>340167520
>>340168971
Aurelion does have a lot of lore but it's not in the client for reasons unknown

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/mount-targon/aurelion-sol.html
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>>340167520

It was nice when there was ward wars, but since they took it out I no longer have any interest in it.
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>>340172830
He's shaco without crazy.
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>>340172563
>Not wanting to achieve perfection and slaughter enemy teams with his calm voice
I guess it's sorta edgy family but goddamn that dude is fuckin awesome
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>>340173135
>Supports are the only people that ward
>this is their job
>w-w-w-well everyone should ward! its a team effort
>take away the one thing that made support fun
>no one plays support now

If supports could do more now than be the bottom bitch for their adc, I would play again.
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>>340172996
Dude. A genre name is a genre name. It's a MOBA. It does not mean shit, but it classify a game. ARTS does not work because it limit the genre to Top down games like LoL and DoTA but does not include Smite, Awesomenauts, Monday Night Combat or Battleborn or Paragon.
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If retards think jhin is good you haven't seen dotas hero designs
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>>340167520

>words

Bitch if I wanted to read up on LoL lore I'd go to their fucking site and do it. Make your point and fuck off. This game is popular because a bunch of no life retards dedicated what little of an existence they had to mastering it like second nature so they could compete and win stupidly large amounts of money.

If you think anyone who actually plays the game has read 10% of the lore in this game you're fucking autistic.
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>>340171293
>main Vladimir
>he's been nerfed to hell and beyond
>still find him OP as fuck
>always wreck everyone's asses with him
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>>340172634
How fucking retarded are you? Yes graphics don't affect gameplay but no matter how much you deny it they do signify a quality of product all 90% of the games on that list looks like burnt piece of shit.

Unity fucking does affect gameplay you moron, it affects performance, it affects what features your game can have, it affects quality of product, it affects player interaction, it affects more or less everything.

Oh sorry, what was I thinking, of course even if promised and necessary features aren't added in the "final" product it doesn't affect gameplay, after all who needs all the features when you are a PC player and have superior imagination? You can just add those physically with mods anyway, right?

Great point again, I don't really mind not being able to play the game continuously or coherently, I mean, 5 minutes of janky not-acting-as-intended gameplay vs 10 minutes without crashing to desktop, who really minds right? All that matters to me, the superior PC player, is the gameplay.
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>>340171710

If you think trackmania nations forever is f2p shovelware, you've obviously obviously never (Obviously Never)played it.

Trackmania 2 stadium and canyon are BOTH fucking fantastic and they're only $20 games that are often on sale and have good demos. Just fucking play them. They're FN and challenging.

You are also wrong about basically everything else on your list but I'm too lazy to correct you about about the RTS games right now.
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>>340173017
Right, forgot I was talking about PC exclusives.
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>>340172634

>Not him

You are him.
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>>340170017
(You)
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>>340173517
LeEbin no mechanic spam to win hero

Nice shit Invoker ;^)
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>>340171710
>mental gymnastics

how are you enjoying your $400 meme brick?
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>>340172563
Jhin is actually pretty well written and has some nice little touches in his design. When you play as Jhin you can hear an echo in his voice lines as if he is standing on a stage making a performance and an audience is watching him but when you play against him you can hear him say the same voice lines without the echo, seeing that it's all just his imagination and he is indeed deranged
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>>340173679
>vladimir
>spam to win

It's a dotard alright
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>>340173521
Yes, they signify a product quality, but that wasn't even related to the question you "answered", you mongoloid.

Yes, Unity engine affect performance, but how well a game runs is performance, not gameplay, you can say it runs like ass but not that is plays like ass based on frame rate and the like.

Now you're just trying to stab people for (You)s with the third line, you're skewing your words because you didn't answer the Question.

See above with line 4.
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>>340172353
>from shurima
but I want Pentarina to have a lil sis
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>>340173490
Yeah I haven't because they all blend in to the murky brown scenery.

Also Dota designs just pale in comparison to leagues.

Only good design is Enchantress.
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>>340172634

Crpg Crpgis Crpgisclassic rpg, Crpgisclassic rpg not computer.

Also play warlords battle cry or dawn of war 2 for RTS / rpg hybrid

They They'd on Theydonthave Theydonthaveplatgorming tho, sorry.
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idk tell me why the witcher 3 is so popular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyKzRNmSJmc
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>>340173626
Fun fact, the unique User IP count went up when I posted that. And I can assert to you, that I am
>>340172634
but not
>>340171881
You're welcome to believe otherwise, but that is the truth.
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>>340173706

I got a $1300 PC for Christmas last year and I use it to surf 4chan. I noticed recently the game that has everyone abuzz in excitement is a port of a fucking PS Vita title about getting Asians naked. and all my friends are saying how great the new Uncharted is and they are all playing Overwatch on consoles.

To imply there is a gaming platform more meme than the PC is straight retard Anon. Steam is pushing meme games out like a catholic bunny.
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>>340173741
No cost Qwas that damages and heals?

Must be League Kappa
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>Have 70 champions
>Have like 10 champions i always play
>Never ever read the lore around them because nobody cares
>Somehow an issue

Okay?
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>>340173821
Oh sorry, I expected sasuga PC players to know an engine affects more than the framerate.

As for everything else, if you like gameplay instead of video games themselves that much why don't you just jerk off over documents of mechanics design? Don't even need to scrounge for shovelware to have fun that way.
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>>340173841
>Dota
>20 minutes of VA work
>references other heroes, lore and items
>custom announcers add even more

>League
>like 4 minutes of VA work
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>>340174118
>Being proud of playing a pay2win game for autists
>Not playing dota 2 instead
>Too autistic and casual to play the real moba

L M A O
btw, nice sandbox/ranked Q.
niggers
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>>340174137
This is my final (You) to you, Anon. Have a wonderful day, and I hope you pull a head out of your ass, preferably your own.
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/v/ is a Dota board league cucks
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>>340174341

>playing a moba

You both lose in this scenario. But it's fun to watch the slow kid pick on the cripple. Continue.
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>>340173865
Was this post made by one of those Finger Family, Dora Surgeon game generating Chinese bots?
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>>340174341

>P2W

I never payed real money for Lol autist

>Playing DoTa 2
>Playing the game with 1/20 the playerbase
>Playing with Russians and autists

LOL no thank you
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>>340174463
Dota is an ARTS :^)
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>>340174331
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRRofGLTsv8
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>>340174463
Can't even argue desu. As much as i like dota mobas are literal cancer.
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>>340171230
chinese and russian, famalam.
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>>340174563
>1 champ
Tell me when more than a hundred get that much VA work.
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>>340168791
Nice false flag, faggot
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>>340171710
i hope you realize that people only bought ps4 for bloodborne and a xbone for cowadoody
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>>340174518
Dota is bigger, when was the last time your queue didn't hit 30 minutes? Oh wait enjoy your auto fill.

Also where's your stats lolbab. Dotabuff shows more games played in Dota compared to any site that'll show games played in League.
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>>340174341
>pay2win

Is looking fabulous somehow a requirement for winning?
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>>340174458
No wonder there are so many retards here it is impossible to discuss anything.
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>>340174563
/boop/

Champs great, shame he's shit against pretty much every assassin or anyone with hard engage.
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Only braindead subhumans play this
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>>340172563
Seems fine to me.

That dude in Bioshock was pretty cool... Sander Cohen. That guy was my kind of crazy.
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>>340174518
>implying u amerilards are better than russians

Either way i don't get why people are so concerned about foreigners in dota. they are only a problem if your mmr is low enough to have them.

But i guess coming from a LoL faggot, can't expect him to be good at a real game.

Tfw u can't deny me
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>playing a MOBA

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/4e/Undying_real_loser_01.mp3

Superior ARTS coming thru
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>>340174331
how does it feel to get so BTFO?
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>>340175071
>ARTS
>Posts a MOBA
???
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>>340174723
Considering Riot is slowly working through the roster adding vo lines with reworks, and the fact that 90% of the champions were made when they didn't have a massive budget for voice high quality voice actors, I can forgive them.

>>340174859
This. He's anivia, but way worse.
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>>340174801
>Runes
>Champions

?
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>>340173002
how would you know
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>>340175074

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/e/e0/Drag_inthebag_01.mp3
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>>340175156
As an Anivia main you're right. its really stupid you can't toggle his Q stun like you can with Anivia so at least you have a chance to escape. Only thing that can have people back off of you is your ult.
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>>340171052
>Wyvern
Good taste.
Her voice makes my dick so hard.
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>>340175341
>main

Only retards do this.
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cool, lol thread
in 30 min steam offers new deals
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>>340171230
>8gb ram, 2 cpus, win10
Most steam users are laptop shitters.
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>>340175410
Not him.
This isn't Overwatch where you gotta switch Heroes constantly just to survive in some situations.
This is League of Legends where you only don't pick your main for 2 reasons.
1: someone else filled the role first
2: It got 1 of the 6 ban slots.
Then you pick one of your secondaries, which most players have 2-3 of.
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>>340174784
>Dota is bigger
I always knew Dotards were delusional beyond help but this one just takes the cake

Dota is so fucking dead that Dotafags need to come into League threads just to get a discussion on their game
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>People complain about the lack of lore
>Ignore all the extra shit Riot's been doing lately.
Just last champion with Taliyah, Riot released both a big ass origin story thing of her meeting and training under Yasuo in the mountains,
and then they had a whole site with stories based around each of the Shumiran champs.
I mean, sure, it's a shame that they completely removed Summoners and the whole point of the game itself, but they're certainly still giving some thought at least to the champions and how they are/act beyond the game.

>>340173679
>spam to win hero
Vlad's not all that spammy outside his Q.
All his other spells need very proper timing, lest you end up sitting there just helping them finish you off by removing your best escape/cutting your health by 10-20%.
Even his Q has some not spammy work to it, since you usually want to bait the enemy right as you're about to get the two stacks/empowered q.
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>>340175708
BTFO
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>>340175708
Stats don't lie, enjoy your queue times.
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>>340175410
She's the only champ I find fun to play.
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>>340167520

LoL's lore is literally a copy of a copy of a series that ended full retard (Age of Sigmar). It was never great to begin with.
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>>340175948
Stop talking out of your ass. My queue times are 1-2 minutes and I am pretty highly ranked, whereas in Dota 2 the queue times are usually 5 to 10 minutes and it doesn't have role selection in the queue
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League of Legends' universe could incorporate stand-alone games, the lore is actually cool.
Too bad it's stuck behind a shitty MOBA where the devs don't change anything unless 99% of the players complain or if an e-sport "celebrity" complains about it.
Remember how much time it took to actually fucking nerf the Godyr build? Actually, hold on, it isn't even fucking nerfed. They merged the 2 most cancerous items of the game into 1 item and then re-added a shitty Warwick item, but considering that Warwick is beyond the veil of uselessness, it's only good for Yi and Udyr.
Really though, fuck League of Legends. The toxic community is probably even worse than the devs. They even fucking sold themselves out to some shady chinese internet company like how Moot sold 4chan to some shady chinese guy.
Dota 2 is as cancerous as League of Legends, too. Die once in early game from a faggot enemy axe in bot-lane of radiant side and you become useless unless you steal kills and farm in the jungle except that farming in the jungle is an invitation for enemies to ass-rape you even worse
Heroes of Newerth quickly became Blizzard's aborted child. Dota 2 players don't even need to go through the tutorial because the game already has many similarities to Dota 2, including hero abilities. Gladiator and Kunkka, for example (inb4 "but they both drew inspiration from the original dota")
Smite is somewhat decent, because projectiles do not actually home in targets by just clicking them. You actually need to hold left click and AIM. This is why Smite doesn't have a huge community compared to LoL and Dota 2.
But there was a really, really sweet knock-off of League of Legends that was DC-styled. It was a MOBA, but it was actually fun. Some terrain was actually destructable, and you could actually buy items from near turrets in order to be able to stay in lane without having it ass-raped while you are gone or waiting for a reskinned animal with special effects. (1/2)
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>>340175708
>dota the #1 game on steam


>league releases no stats and any stats on third party sites show less games than dotabuff when checking for the same factors

why do people blindly follow an idea? Bet you think dota is clunky and toxic.
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>>340175948
>>340175920
>>340175708
Who needs a bigger fanbase if your 80 extra gorillion players are just a bunch of autistic niggers like (you)

anyway, stay casual faggots.
tfw u can't deny the facts
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>>340167520
>caring about lore in moba

Literally every single MOBA has shit lore.
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>>340175645
For ranked maybe.
But ltely i've been just playing a bunch of different champs to get gud with them and nab their chests.
It's oddly refreshing just moving on from one champ to the next after getting a decent rank.
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>>340176162
In League you can't deny at all KEK
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>>340172128
Doesn't even describe 10% of indie games. Good job, anon.
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>>340176116
(2/2) Then the devs shut it down because of lack of funding.
Fuck the MOBA genre, it's like trying to entertain children with dead horses.
I'd proudly take to play another game constantly other than ANOTHER FUCKING MOBA.
Yes, I am really salty and really pissed off.
I want to play something else, but too bad these games got so many dollars and big communities because they run on potato PCs.
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>>340176242
DOTA had nice lore

How Roshan stole the aegis from Zeus when he left heaven.
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>Trundle used to be a little shit that clubs niggas while taking a curse for his people
>is no a notArthas barafag
fuck you you ruined everything
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>>340167520
How does this shit explain that he has to fight among pirates, ninjas and magic fairy midgets in some shitty forest?
Unless LoL is ran by said space-faring empire
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>>340176119
>>340176162
At this point I'm thinking whether this is just some extremely elaborate bait or if you are actually clinically retarded
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>>340176242
That's not the point

>Literal demigod, maker of stars
>Objectively worse stats than a 2-foot-tall cat thing
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>>340176382
(3/3 surprise) And the problem is that almost every other cool multiplayer game is hardware intensive, IE : Overwatch
These games got such large followings and are extremely profitable because anyone can play on them due to an option of settings ranged from having it look like shit towards having it look great.
I really want other multiplayer games that are not MMO or another damn MOBA, but are not hardware-intensive either. TF2 is an unoptimized mess, Don't Starve Together will never have actually renewable rocks, which forces server owners to have to add mods to keep people to join, Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 are mostly dead, Payday 2 is a DLC-fest where only rich people can afford going on with the latest updates and shit, and so on.
All I really want is just a non-MMO non-MOBA multiplayer game that is not hardware intensive. Is that too much to ask?
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>>340176678
It used to be that every champ was binded to the game by contracts made by summoners, but now not even Riot fucking knows.
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>>340175164
>by the time you reach level 30 you will have all the runes you will ever need if you are not an autist,
>free champion rotation ensures you will have enough shit to play for a week.

You do know that "p2w" came from shitty shooters that had paid boosts like wall hack, aimbot and extra armor, right? You can shit all you want on lol, but when people talk about p2w it's usually people who hate on lol without ever playing it.
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>>340175164
Oh god! The runes! You are so right!

What a terrible idea to make them only purchasable with ingame currency and not with real money. And the pricing politic for the tier 2 runes (1 IP) is so unfair.
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>>340167520
What's the matter, OP, don't you like memes?
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>>340176734
I never understood this meme

At least in Dota pretty much everyone is a overpowered anime character

I wouldn't be suprised if league released a character that is literally RnFS
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>>340175164
You can't buy runes and having a lot of champions doesn't mean you can actually play them. Most Challenger smurf players usually just play one champion to get to their own rating

LoL champions are actually much more complex than Dota 2 heroes excluding a few obvious examples like Invoker so champion knowledge is much more important in League
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>>340176692
No,
u're the one playing lol

Either way every time people post valid arguments LoLfags always burt out the "WE HAVE MoRe PLAYERzZ XDXDXD" and bring up the "nice q times dotards".

Seriously. Go put your massive playerbase of mongoloids up your ass if you care about it so much. Q times in dota are never long anyway unless u're a pro player on NA

there's a reason why LoL has more players and it's because its a game for casuals, literally a braindead monkey could get into LoL. Dota is not the same. get it right you dense motherfucker
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>seriously defending LoL
either the new is taking over or the falseflagging is getting out of control
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>>340172128

No. Indie means independently funded aka without a publisher. That's literally the only criteria
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>>340175948
plat3
screenshot taken 2 hours ago
2nd option is fill
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The Rune system is fucking stupid.
>literally buying power
>burden of information
>confusing as fucking for new players (I've been playing for 2 years and I still don't understand it.)

If Riot removed runes, and balanced the game accordingly, I would be completely fine with that.
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>>340167520
what the fuck is teemo? a fuckin giant rat or somethin
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>>340176949
There is different style of Pay 2 Win. LoL is a 6/10. DOTA 2 is a 1/10. Dungeon Keeper Mobile is a 10/10.

LoL block heroes and give an unfair advantage to old players compared to new ones. If a old player made a new account and just played high rank match he would be worst than anybody else because of the runes and talents.
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>>340177354
meant for
>>340176079
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>>340177227
Dota 2 players are like those Jehova's witnesses. Nobody fucking wants to talk to them but they still come and knock on every single fucking door even when they're blown the fuck out and told to fuck off
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>>340176949
>Tried to get into LoL
>Loved the concept of zyra
>Nice she's on the free heroes of each week or whatever its called
>That week is over
>have to play some retarded hero for like 30 matches to get enough goypoints to buy JUST ONE FUCKING CHARACTER.

Why is this even allowed?
why can't i play the hero i want without having to spend time playing shit i don't want to?

enjoy your game jews
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>>340177406
>a fuckin giant rat

your typical LoL player
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>>340177482
How else is Riot supposed to make money to make more content for the game?

Oh wait I forgot that they own the biggest online service for buying pc games and also have multiple other games for generating revenue.
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>>340177482
>Why is this even allowed
Because it's game with a free to play structure, is that really something you can't grasp?
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>>340168497
>playing dotard

This is what happens if you are too noob and casual to play a real genre but don't want to admit that you are casual so you play LoL 2.0 while pretending that you are somehow better than them.
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>>340177709
>>340177740
by selling cosmetics you autistic mongoloids.
IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO GRASP?
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>>340177227
>Nobody plays Dota because Dota is the better game
Wow nice argument, enjoy the (You)

:)
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>>340177482
>want to get the soul of cinder boss weapon in DaS3
>have to play the game first
Why is this allowed?
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>>340177406
A Yordle, a race with gender dimorphism due to retcon. Where males are small hairy rodent like things. While females are smurfs.
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>>340177482
You are supposed to pay like $20 for a level 30 account off a thirdparty website instead of going through that shit yourself.
They come with enough grindpoints too to buy some champions.
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>>340177869
Nobody would buy skins. I haven't bought a skin in several years.

Especially when the best player in the world has this whole agenda of never using a skin.
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>>340177709
>>340177740
I can get another god with about 10 first wins of the day in Smite.
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Aight i'm done arguing with mentally challenged faggots. enjoy your game that's slowly getting killed by riot's down syndrome.
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>>340176467
>DOTA had nice lore

No it didn't. It had fanfic tier lore as a mod.
When Valve took over the lore took a nosedive.

Seriously, you have Terrorblade which is a demon so bad he got sent to doublehell which he then conquered.

>>340176734
As if the stats matter as well, it's the same shit in any MOBA, all of them have retarded stats.

Also you have basically tiny pieces of shit killing gods in all MOBAs as well.
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>>340167520
>friends tried getting me to play this
>all they do is bitch and moan that they have a shitty team every game.
>still silver for the past 4 years.
How do people never give up
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>>340178943
>TB WC3 model was illidan aka the Original EdgeLord
>TB in Dota 2 has the edgiest lore
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>>340179332
>How do people never give up

It's like an abusive husband. They stay for the slivers of "good times" they have. It gives them a rush when they finally win.
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>tfw League is finally dying
>tfw Dota is dead already
>the MOBA meme is almost over
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>>340179710
I like Heroes of the storm. It's more casual than LoL and Dota but is also more fun.
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>>340179994
>more casual
>than
>LoL
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>>340179710
>Dota is already dead
LITERALLY GROWING EVERY YEAR
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>>340180113
As in, a new player does not need to read guides to actually play the game. No item buying, no slow as fuck characters, faster games.

Casual mean "I dont have time to play a long time" It's not a bad term.
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>>340180321
I was saying its funny that it is more casual than lol
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>>340167938
wrong

>>340167520
they fucked over the dota 1 forum and basically turned it into a giant billboard shilling their game when it was new. then they were pretty much the only big dota-like game (aside from HoN) until Dota 2 came along.with streaming becoming big, they'vebeen able to use bots and normies to keep the game at the top for so long as well, giving it pretty much constant exposure.
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>>340180614
LoL is the most popular game in the world, but it still require a lot of "known" things, like buy orders and so on. It's popular because it's popular. People play LoL because other friends play LoL and so on.
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>>340175975
shut up luke
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>>340179710
And instead you get the "hero shooter" meme which is somehow better.

Hell SC2 is barely alive still so I dont see lolbabies nor dotards going away, I just see less studios trying to hop on the ASSFAGOTS badwagon.
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>>340180614
So why aren't you in tournaments winning millions if it's so casual?
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>>340167520
What is it that's making everyone leave LoL? Is it really taking that hard of a hit or are people just exaggerating?

Also, SMITE is pretty fun.
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>>340167520
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/mount-targon/aurelion-sol.html
here's your lore, they no longer put it into game
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>>340181340

Overwatch

Not even joking, peopole are leaving LoL for Overwatch.
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>>340167520
>Season 1-3 will never come back
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>>340181887
I actually believe they may run some kind of legacy servers, the demand is there.
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>>340181340

What this guy said >>340181787, and also frequent mismanagement by Riot (removing soloque, nerfs no one asked for, terrible tournament production, etc).
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>>340181787
Not the same crowd. Hell, most people who play LoL cant even play Overwatch on pc
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>Riot keeps "updating" character back stories in patches
>paragraphs of lore and world building get turned into 1-2 sentences of trash
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>>340177843
You mean LoL is dota 2.0 yet somehow infinitely worse

Also >real genre
Nice meme, go back to point and clicking on fps and button smashing in fighting games
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>>340178943
>hating on terrorblade
His writing is fucking great because it triggers idiots like you.
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>>340182341
Ah yes, generic golden fullhelmet guy with glowing eyes.
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>>340183887

I'm serious, check the forums or even Reddit
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>>340167520
It's easy to play and you get used to it fast.
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>>340167520
It's the only game shared between all my friends.

It's fun playing as 5 and dicking around in normal games.
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A lot of the new lore is on the website. They just released a short story that had Nasus, Taliyah, Sivir and Xerath
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>>340178943
TB lore is tongue-in-cheek as fuck. You anger has blinded you.
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>>340185489
Some people does not mean "everybody".
Of course you will have people who play LoL that play Overwatch.

You also have people who play Counter Strike that play Overwatch, you have people who play MMO's, Racing game and ect.

It's a big release so every game will lose some players to it.

It's no where as big as Lineage and WoW for example. Unless you have some graphics that show a drastic drop in players in LoL the same day as Overwatch release, it does not mean anything.
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>>340178073
Bitch are your forgetting about the bandle race fuck off.
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>>340185961
Where is Rift on this chart?
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>>340167520
its a free and easy game that any normie with half a brain can play
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>>340167520
the reason why Teemu and Sol are on the same level is because Teemu has seniority
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>>340167520
Fools fell for it early on. It was a fresher take on Dota, which I was completely burned out on for one. I tried it. I thought it had some good ideas during the beta.

Then the power creep happened. Then the "Balance" happened. The Metagame.

Only retards stay on and play this absolute drek.

All the things this game did was accentuate the inherent problem with DotA and similar games:

One side. Snowballs out of control. And stomps the other.

Nearly every time. Only game where I've seen matches become close more often than not was HotS.

Because people have shit taste. I mean "if my friends play it, it must be fun right?"

The fact that this sort of game design could be considered a sport is beyond stupid. It's embarrassing.
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>>340168340
who here actually saw the Noxus vs. Ionia stream live
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>>340172729
>Every FPS game
>Team gets rekt without even a chance
>I still try to get kills here and there, maintaining a solid score
>"Team, get your shit together!"
>"Why are you so salty anon? We're having fun! xD"
>Tries to votekick me and fails
>Enemy team rolls over my team
>My whole team: "GG"
Sometimes, I wish I could strangulate people through my monitor.
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