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What went right?
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>>340157221
Chao Garden and Sonic and Shadow levels.
That's about it
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>>340157221
Everything except kart racing and mad space.
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>>340157310
>Chao Garden
yes
>>340157334
>Everything except kart racing
you suck a dick

Also, City Escape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6NaZrPQGfY
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>>340157248
>>340157320
>>340157359
>>340157386
>>340157424
>>340157574
>>340157748
>>340157794

LE BAZINGA XDDD

>>>/out/
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>>340157221
>the soundtrack
>the Sonic+Shadow levels (imperfect but fun)
>Chaos Garden
>dumb shit cutscenes
>dat final boss
>dat FINAL boss
>dat ghost boss
>Sonic's arms are blue
fun game/10
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Everything except Eternal Engine.
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>>340158069
aren't* blue

>but fun
typical sonic fan activity
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I'LL USE YOUR-
CHAOS CONTROL
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fuck off unless you have something to show the class aaron
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LIVE AND LEAAAAAAAAAAAARN
HANGIN' ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW
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>>340157221
replayability
music
hidden items
sonic and shadow levels
all round level design
half decent story
chao garden
multiplayer
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>>340158034
Fuck that got me good
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Metal Harbor was fuckin' great.
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>>340157221
>What went right?
The decision to create a more streamlined game after the abomination that was SA1's "open world" feel
The removal of the adventure field
The removal of loading zones in the middle of levels
The removal of Amy as a playable character
Pretty much all the Ark levels. Even the mech ones
Better LAST storyline
The boss battles
The VAs, while largely the same, did a much better job this time arouns. It's the only sonic game with actual good delivery.
Chao World
Multiplayer (seriously, it's fucking dope as a drinking game)
The theme songs are significantly better. Some are even catchy
the ending

It's definitely not the least flawed 3D sonic game, not by a long shot, but there's enough that works and makes for good replayability (by far the best sonic game to all A rank) that I'd still argue it's overall the best 3D entree. Yes, I've played Generations.
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>>340158895
Pretty spot on.

I went back and played all 4 dreamcast/Xbox era sonic games and SA1 is fucking terrible, but SA2 has some nice charm to it and some of the levels are genuinely super fun. Heroes was disappointingly much worse than I remember it, and Ow the Edge was ok?
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>>340157221
Chao Garden, Sonic and Shadow levels, excellent sound track.

I enjoyed the treasure hunting stages except Mad Space and the Eggman temple ones.
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They dropped the fishing levels.
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>>340158895
Oh, and what this guy said >>340159327
How could I forget that? The fucking was fucking aweful.
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>>340159478
The fishing.
FISHING
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>>340157221
Chao garden.
Great music.
And you went fast.
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>>340158895
Yup
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Late 90s/early 2000s was a different era.
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>>340157221
It doesn't matter whooooo is wrong or who is riiiight
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So most of us are obviously in consensus that SA2 is the better overall game, but which one has the better music
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>>340160837
Adventure 2
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>>340160837
Emerald coast has the best music

But sa2 overall
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>>340160837
They have completely different styles.

Most of SA sounds like it could easily fit on a genesis game.
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>>340160837
That's really hard to say. I think Jun Senoue outdid himself with directing 2's music though.
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>>340160837
SA1 had more variety, SA2 was mostly guitar shit
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>>340160837
>great tracks in SA1
Emerald Coast (primary)
Twinkle Park exterior
Speed Highway (suburban)
Red Mountain exterior
Red Mountain interior
Lost World (snake chamber)
Final Egg
Open Your Heart

>great tracks in SA2
City Escape
Wild Canyon
Metal Harbor
Green Forest
Pumpkin Hill
Aquatic Mines
Mission Street
Pyramid Cave
Eternal Engine
Meteor Herd
Crazy Gadget
Final Rush
Radical Highway
White Jungle
Cosmic Wall
Final Chase
Egg Golumn
Cannons Core 3
Live and Learn
It Doesn't Matter 2.0
Unknown From M.E. 2.0
Throw it all Away
E.G.G.M.A.N.
Supporting Me

SA2 has more tracks that stick out as memerable. As >>340161516 pointed out, SA1 has better variety in its level music, but it cheats by reusing a bunch of Sonic 3D Blast genesis tracks. Also, the theme songs in 1 are far more cringe-inducing.
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What the fuck happened with the Heroes models?

Did they even try?
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>>340161963
I hate Heroes' underlying game engine so goddamn much. It would've been GOAT if it controlled like SA2 did.
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>>340161963
It had to be made with the PS2 in mind.

Sonic Adventure DX was planned for a PS2 release and the game literally couldn't run on the console without tanking the frame rate
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Not much. It's pretty mediocre over all.
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>>340161963
3D sonic has never looked as good as he does in SA2DX
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Sonic games are only good on reflection, after seeing how bad the current release is.
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I fucking hate the writing for boost sonic.
His delivery is forced as fuck and he's never funny.

He was best here, and not just because Ryan was a good VA, but because they weren't trying to make him HEH HEH TOO GOOD FOR YA LET'S GO FAST!
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>>340162526
One of the guys on the team has said that part of the reason he acts more mature in SA2 is because when they were making the game, they had in mind that the characters had aged and they were portraying a young adult rather than an early teen.

But then heroes decided to make him 15 again so now it just feels off
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>>340162526
He was still great in unleashed though.
In fact, everything about sonic's design,voice acting, and writing, was pretty much perfect in unleashed imo.
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>>340163147
Ehhhhhh I mean he was better than in the more recent boost games but it was still a but cheesy for me
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>>340162526
Yeah he was serious and it looked fine since it wasn't Sonic 06 tier drama.

>>340163147
That's because the comic relief was chip, in the newer games they don't have any non evil character that appears constantly do and say wacky shit so they use sonic which i think is awful too.

At least it's very likely we will never hit Heroes level of corny dialogue though.
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Why could Metal Sonic not defeat Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles /v/?
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>>340161963
What i hate the most about Heroes/shadow the hedgehog models is how they all look oiled in game.

>>340162098
I wonder why they don't use the rails movement of SA2 in newer games.

Rails in that game where always fun.
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I legitimately like the Sonic, Shadow, Eggman and Knuckles stages.

For Tails I only like Mission Street and Eternal Engine, and the only Rouge stage that doesn't bore me to death is Security Hall.
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>"Knuckles and Rouge stages sucked."
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Chao Garden
Fastan levels
Shootan levels
A few of the Huntan levels
Bosses

A little janky but overall it's a pretty good game
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>>340158204
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE power
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>>340162526
Serious Sonic > Goofy Sonic.

He was always serious in the classics anyway.
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I'm not done with you y-
SONIC WIND!
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Sanic/Shadow levels were OK.
Music was cheesy but fit the mood.
That's it.
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>>340164849
>He was always serious in the classics anyway.
Wat?
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>>340162526
>>340164849
I thought OVA Sonic was the best Sonic.
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>>340165068
"Oh, for God's sake"
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>>340165108
This

The sonic twitter is always the personality I associate with an ideal sonic personality as well
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>>340158895
>The removal of Amy as a playable character
SA1 Amy with a bit more speed would've been more enjoyable than the treasure hunting (barring hard mode) and mech (barring Cosmic Wall) levels.

>Pretty much all the Ark levels. Even the mech ones
The ARK interior and exterior are when the game completely falls on its face. The only decent levels are Cosmic Wall and maybe Final Rush if you like all that automated grinding. All the rest are complete ass.

Agreed with the rest though.
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I feel like Rust does Sandboxes pretty well. The key to a good sandbox MMO or anything is that you have to make the players really feel like they're earning everything through hard work. Then they attribute value to their digital progress and won't act like wonton retards.

>play rust
>build a base next to a few neighbours
>at first we are hostile
>constant back and forth battling
>we finally get sick of losing all our shit to each other and to other invaders
>sign a peace treaty
>soon we develop into a town
>then a village when more people join
>chaos turned into order out of the sheer desire not to lose our hard work

That's the key, Of course we raped and pillaged other stragglers and clans forming that posed a threat. But that's for them to deal with.
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>>340165280
Crazy Gadget is my favorite Level...
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>Sonic and Shadow were the only good characters meme
>People who unironically dislike destroying everything in sight as Eggman
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>>340165473
YOSH
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>>340165436
HOW DO YOU AVOID THIS SHIT? I ALWAYS END UP GETTING CAUGHT AND LOSING MY FUCKING RINGS, IT'S ANNOYING AF
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>>340157221
BIG
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>>340165473

I guess it was fun a couple of times.
A third of the game though is too much.
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>>340165571
Funny, I replay Eggman stages a lot more than Sonic and Shadow's stages.
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>>340165571
This.
Most of the mech stages just don't have the magic of Gamma's Hot Shelter or Red Mountain.

Weapons Bed and Cosmic Wall are legitimately good.
I can't think of a single Tails level I enjoy to this day but I'll concede that Mission Street has a nice theme.
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did anybody actually like searching for emeralds and shards though?

>my friend didn't get the unlimited oxygen power up and had to do that swimming level at the end of the game without it
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>>340157221
chao garden
sonic and shadow levels
knuckles and rouge levels except a couple real shit ones
shadow died at the end
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>>340165704

I find it gets boring quick. Gamma's campaign in Sonic Adventure was short and didn't interrupt the other stages.
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>>340165828

It would have been a lot better if the radar wasn't gimped.

I wonder if there's a mod for that.
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>>340165828
>did anybody actually like searching for emeralds and shards though?
It's the best multiplayer mode
>who cares about the mult-
No, stop. SA2 multiplayer is clutch
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Who /All A Rank/ here?
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>>340165828
Hard mode was legitimately decent and should've been the basis for the main gameplay instead of "run around hoping the RNG pings"
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>>340165798
>>340165840
I'll agree with this though.

Gamma's story as a whole was 10/10 and is easily the best thing about SA1 for me. It makes me wish for SA3 just so we can have an Omega story in the same vein.

His theme is fucking great too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2sOpyF1nF4
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>>340166068
100%ing Adventure 1 is harder
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>>340165828
If the radar wasn't fucking shit, I would like those stages.
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>>340165540
You hide in shadowy areas.
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>>340166150
Weapons Bed/Cosmic Wall > Red Mountain/Hot Shelter > the rest of SA2 mech stages > the rest of Gamma's stages

Those early Gamma stages are just embarrassingly small
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>>340166316
>Those early Gamma stages are just embarrassingly small
Good, it means they drag on less.
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>>340165436
>>340165540
Hardest 100 ring A rank in the game.
Well, canons core is pretty bad too.
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>>340166316
It's weird, I'm not usually a storyfag, but I didn't actually mind the stage length because I really liked his character arc.
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>they bumped up the score requirements for Cosmic Wall in all ported versions
it's the one level I need A ranks in.
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QUICK!
CLAIM YOUR MAIN!!!
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>>340167190
Dibs
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>>340167190
C H A O S
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>>340167190
>tfw picking chaos and purposefully choosing aquatic mine so he always drowns before he gets the pieces.
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>>340167280
>It's a "I pick metal sonic and a rails level" episode
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>>340167190
Daily reminder that this fucker is banned in the competitive scene
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>>340167190
Amy
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>>340167469
Metal is not any faster on rails
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>>340167987
Press B next time
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>>340167469
Metal is, with a skilled player, objectively the best character on any speed map
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>>340167932
"Just wait 10 minutes"
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>>340168407
That's a cute hedgehog
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>>340157221

City Escape.
The Finalhazard.
Bat boobs.
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>>340167190
But that version doesn't have my alt skins
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>>340166068
I got pretty damn close on GameCube.
Then I got to Cannons Core.
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>>340168782
ALL YOU PEOPLE
CAN'T YOU SEE
CAN'T YOU SEE
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>>340168921
Upboated
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They just needed to fix the camera and allow all six characters to play through all stages, or at least all of Sonic and Shadow's stages. You don't really get to appreciate how fun Knuckles and Rouge are unless you've hacked them into City Escape or Radical Highway. It really feels like the Genesis games, replaying the same levels but being able to climb walls and glide.

Also, just the right amount of level of cheese.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Ky59flBIar
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Who /Knuckles in Sonic's Lost World/ here?
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>what went right

Chaos did.
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>>340167190
Since Chaos is taken, Shadow I guess.
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>>340169779
Honestly, upgrades were one of my favorite parts of the Adventure games. I hate how in every game after SA2 the characters aren't pimped out by the end.
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>>340170231
https://youtu.be/c6ax9jfI_kU
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>>340170453
>Unregistered Hypercam
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>>340170453
You know I thought of this immediately after posting. Good job anon, you read my mind.
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>>340170453
>that writing on the tombstone
Maximum Kek
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WOW HE'S FAST. HEY IT'S NOT HIS SPEED HE MUST BE USING THE CHAOS EMERALD TO WARP
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My name is Shadow, the world's ultimate life form.

There's no time to play games, FAREWELL
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>>340167190
>yfw holding B with Amy makes her invincible
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>>340170453
Honestly considering going through all the sonic paradox shorts and taking out all the good ones and compiling them into one video, because 80% of them are bad, but some are legitimately funny.

How autistic ally mad do you think they would get at me?
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>>340162276
uwotm8
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>>340171348
He looks like a fucking cartoon.
In SA2 his quills had nice definition and he wasn't shined up like a fucking solar panel
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Wait whats the difference between hard mode treasure hunt levels and normal?
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>>340171791
Hard mode has the emerald pieces in set locations, so the challenge is more puzzle platforming using skills and the level-up items. It's technically harder, but more fun because you're not just mindlessly running around waiting for your radar to ping.
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"That blue hedgehog again of all places.."
"I found you, faker!"
"Faker? I think you're the fake hedgehog around here, you're comparing yourself to me, ha! You're not even good enough to be m-"
"I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS"
"There's no time to play games, You won't even get the chanc- I'm the coolest!"
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>>340171498
Man do the Sonic Heroes models make me vomit
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>>340157221
>What went right
Erm, the speed stages and the Chao Garden I guess? I know that sounds like a hot meme, but they /were/ the most fun parts if we're honest. The other stages weren't as offensive as people made them out to be but I have a hard time believing that anybody out there would highly rate a game of pure Egg Walker stages.

I think I'm just salty because the mechs are clunkier than Gamma's smooth movement in Adventure 1, plus Knuckles and Rouge control like a dream and have awesome movesets but are stuck with emerald hunting. Their moments in Cannon's Core were their best parts in the game precisely because they weren't stuck with these open empty areas with just "find 3 of X" as the goal. Their gameplay is technically fun as fuck, it's the emerald hunting itself and the level layouts that put a damper on it.

The kart racing was the tits though. More of that please.
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>Jump scares in a Sonic game
FUCK THOSE GHOSTS
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>>340162526

hes always been a sarcastic jackass though. thats what made him different from mario
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Reminder there is probably a Sonic Humble Bundle coming up.
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>>340172198
They look like Matel toys
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Well, Sonic, normally. Until they switched the platforming into 3D. Now, he goes all over the place and you have no control over it.
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The next Sonic game will be
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Best Level track for each character, go:

Sanic- Pyramid Cave
Tails- Hidden Base
Knackles- Wild Canyon

Robotnik- Cosmic Wall
Edgehog- Can't remember
Rouge- Security Hall

Sonic's levels had the best tracks overall imo. I have to wonder why the sonic music is so consistently good when the games go to shit.
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>>340172120
>"There's no time to play games, You won't even get the chanc- I'm the coolest!"
10/10
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>>340172198
Sonic Heroes in general made me want to vomit
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The 25th anniversary is just a few weeks away, the announcements and teases are slowly trickling out, and we might have a heads up on one announcement. According to a poster at Reddit, there might be a Sonic Humble Bundle on the way.

The bundle in question seems to be as follows.

Pay what you want (single combined key)

Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic Adventure DX

Beat the Average (single combined key)

Sonic CD
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle Mode
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I

Pay $10 (single combined key)

Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed Metal Sonic
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed Yogscast
Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed Ryo Hazuki
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode II
Sonic Generations
Sonic Generations – Casino Nights
Sonic Lost World
Sonic Lost World – NiGHTMARE Zone

Second Week BTA Bonus (single combined key)

Sonic Spinball
Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine
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>>340172198
Just play the PC version. It looks better.
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1. Chao Garden
2. Soundtrack
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>>340173737
>platforming with a keyboard
Nopetown, USA
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>>340173825
You can connect a controller, you nitwit.
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>>340165108
This is the correct answer
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>>340173825
>keyboard
?
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I guess I'll just post it, then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hmIEAlkPTk
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>>340173737
Not by much though.
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Rogue's theme
https://youtu.be/XHb6sza5mZs
That's all.
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>not the last pic from Argento
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>>340174310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3efbFgPLC0
Rouge music is so good
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>Playing as Team Rose
>"DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, BOYS! THOSE WERE THE eeEEEAAZY ONES!"
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>>340175328
Deepest lore
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>>340175328
"We're not going there, are we?"
"Yes.

We are."
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>>340158119
Fuck off Chris
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>>340175479
I know, right? Why can't he accept Sonic's arms ARE blue?
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>>340157334

>Went to the top of the level
>Had her drill kick straight down the level
>Watch them bat tats flap
>Masturbate
>Finish by the time she come down

Good times
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>I'll beat you!
>Do you think you can beat me?

What the fuck did he just say, Eggman? Jesus christ who writes this tripe?
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>>340175613
oooh de ando
AHHHH DE ANDO
oooh de ando
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>>340175067
>music in Sonic are always good
How they dew it?
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>>340175608
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>>340176171
These fuckers made my day every single time I came to visit
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>>340177087
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>>340177151
How the fuck is that Chao doing the shuffle
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>>340177072
Hngh
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Treasure hunting stages would have been significantly better if the first hint was given automatically and didn't cost you points.
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Sup faggots
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>>340177465
casual
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>>340161963
>Rouge's tits are smaller in Heroes

no, they failed miserably.
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>>340177610
I can't help it man, figuring out what the hint meant and using that to guide me was just so much more enjoyable than running all over the level waiting for the radar to turn green.
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>>340177520
YOU SON OF A BITCH

YOU RUINED EVERY SINGLE RACE I PUT MY CHAO IN AND MADE ONE OF THEM KILL THEMSELVES

YOU BASTARD
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>>340177520
>see this fucker
>don't think much of him
>he suddenly gets off his ass and moves at light speed
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>>340177520
Is this the Saitama of Chao?
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>>340157221
Everything
Refditors that claim the Tails/Knux levels were anything but great need to go and stay go
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>>340177675
You know what else is smaller?
https://e621.net/post/show/910032/2016-absurd_res-amy_rose-anthro-argento-boots-bulg
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>>340161516

That's why I love Rouge's music so much.
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>>340177072

Do you have one of dat ass tho?
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>>340176171
I hear it.
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>>340178051

That's Wiener.
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How long before it's cool to scan and upload a doujin for the author?
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>>340178657
Chacron confirmed Secret Boss
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>>340179767
>Wiener vs Chacron
>Saitama vs Boros
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>>340178782
When they stop selling it.
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What artstyle do you want for the next sonic game?
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>>340179926
I had in mind that Flash from Chao Karate would be Boros and Chacron would be Saitama though

Omochao is Genos
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>>340180020
Anything but Lost World's.
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>>340175608
Impressive
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>>340180008
How long does it take generally?
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>>340180020
I miss the Heroes art style.
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>>340180235

Then who's Garou?
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>>340181028
Wiener
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>>340180490
Dunno. That's just my general thought on it.
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>>340181141
>asshole who's not so much an asshole that breaks limiter and gains great power

I'd buy that.
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>>340157221
Very little.

>mfw /v/irgins hate genuinely good games that only prefaced the downfall of a series, like MGS3 and RE4, but fucking love SA
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>>340181492
2bh I like MGS, RE4 and SA.
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>>340181492
>MGS
>good in the first place
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>>340181770
Oaaaah here we go
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>>340181652
MGS3*
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>>340167190
TIKAL
I
K
A
L
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>>340166068
All I'm missing achievement-wise is playing all level 4 multiplayer stuff.

Probably gonna re-do all emblems one day, lost my savefile.
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>>340169241
There are mods that let you play any stage with any characters.

It's fun. Playing Metal Sonic Adventure 2 is a blast.
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>>340166068
I just need to A Rank Tails/Eggman's missions,
but then I remember I have to get 100 rings in the 2nd mission so I just end up not doing it
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>>340180020
cell shaded
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>>340181652
I can respect that.
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It's funny how in 2010-2011 when Colors and Generations came out everyone was like "YAY SONIC IS BACK FINALLY GOOD GAMES AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WELCOME BACK SONIC" with some solid games coming out in 2012 and everything seemed fine. But then one mediocre game in 2013 and one awful 2014 game that's not even a part of the main series are enough to make people go back to being to the "SONIC IS DEAD" attitude.
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>>340184148
>5 years with no games worth mentioning
>not dead
It's like Megaman fags all over again.
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>>340184148
They were that bad, anon.
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>>340184148
Sonic is fucking lucky he even survived 2006, a game like that would have killed any other series.
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>>340184148
That's because
1) They took the entire series in a new direction (Sonic Boom)
2) They shat out something even worse and less finished than Sonic 06 (Sonic Boom), and
3) They proved that they have no idea how to please gamers (Sonic Lost World and Sonic Boom)
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>>340157221
It was ok. The physics made it fun to dick around in, and speed runs are fun to watch. Otherwise, the controls are messy, treasure hunting is awful, and the camera sucks.
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The ARK Sonic/Shadow faceoff was pretty cool.
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>>340187440
>tfw you couldn't use that boss fight to farm a ridiculous amount of rings
Oh well, at least the Chao Mission in Radical Highway is great for it.
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>mastering the drift in kart racing
>using shadow's car
Poor man's Initial D right there. Loved the kart racing.
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>>340157221
It solidified a dedicated autistic fandom for Sonic lasting until even today.

At the expense of nailing the coffin shut on his integrity.
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>>340157221
Everything
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Chao Garden for mobile devices.
Setting up a schedule for a workout routine will generate a standard blue chao egg. Sticking with the routine will reward you with either animals or chaos drives. After a certain point, 1 or 2 weeks, of working out, your chao will be able to breed with other players chao. Colors and stats are taken from both parents into the newborn chao. Finally, chao races and karate will have a bit of a ranked system in order to prevent an uber chao from destroying a newborn.
Thoughts?
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>>340182763
>make a pc port
>dont bother adding online multiplayer
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>>340190071
>is filled with pay2win features like Premium Onyx Chao that gain a +500% to all stats and can only breed with other Onyx Chao to ensure only Good Goys have them and are able to bypass the paywall threshold
No thanks, I know how this Mobile Dance will go.
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>>340190358
have to buy fruit for chao to even have them participate in races or fight.
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