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Daily reminder that if you have even a single hour of this bitch, you need to kill yourself.
>>340146236
but her ass phat
More accurately, if you have a single hour of playtime for this game, you need to kill yourself.
Play something that requires skill
>>340146236
Spotted McREEE
>>340146386
It is beyond doubt at this point that Overwatch IS the future of arena shooters.
Soon come the clones to ape it, but the standard has been set.
Why can't we play this game in third person?
>>340146336
this 2bh
>>340146521
Can't snipe like a bitch in 3rd person tho;-D
tfw keep getting 1-hit by fucking widows right as I turn a corner
there is nothing worse than playing against a good widow
bitch is impossible to kill
>>340146521
gameplay advantage of being able to see behind you
>>340146236
A good Widow can fuck your team up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4
>>340146698
At that point you have 3 options:
>pray that your teams sniper can outplay her
>keep eating shit
>get lucky and sneak by her
The problem is that Widowmaker has no counter except another Widowmaker.
>>340146913
Most Widowmakers don't play like that. They instead pick a location where the flankers can't get to and snipe from there for the rest of the game.
Why is she wearing so little clothes?
>>340147331
Because she don't even feel the cold.
>>340147535
And why's it pink?
Shouldn't it be some camo-color to make her less likely to be seen?
And why does her animation short show a red back spider, and not a widowmaker?Or are those the same thing?
So many questions.
>>340146236
All the pro teams run her because she is the best choice
literally if you pick hanzo instead of widow kill yourself.
>>340147706
>All the pro teams
Oh, so, fucking NO ONE then?
I swear Widowfags are the Sonyggers of Overwatch.
>>340146698
>>340147001
If your sniper is shit you have another option rush her with winston. but yeah
>>340147786
The people who matter pick her yes. because she outplays hanzo hard. also free wall hacks and 1 shot on most 200 heroes in the head
Is this a Bastionfag-thread? Because I know you people don't need any actual skill to play.
>>340146515
But its not a arena shooter its a moba fps.
I can't remember Quake had Ults or CDs.
Even Rapha calls it a moba/mmo fps.
www.twitchpointtv/esportsarena/v/69140965?t=08h39m50s
>>340147818
>rush her with winston
Really only works if you get her by surprise.
In most maps, she'll see your leap, and either grapple towards teammates or turn and fight. And if she drops her venom mine and starts spraying, she can win that fight.
Ideally, that distraction gave your team a vital 10 seconds to move up, but most of the time you just wasted 30 seconds doing nothing but forcing the WM to go grab a medkit.
>>340146236
What you gonna do about it, big boi.
>>340148041
>max of 12 players in a game at once
>MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
i hate everyone
>>340148041
>people actually believe this
it's an arena shooter you fucking mong
>>340148150
>>340148134
Even a Quake pro called it a moba.
What more evidence do you need?
>>340146236
When a was a gerrl, I had fear of spiderghs
>>340148213
many PRO GAMERS have called it an arena shooter.
Quit being autistic
>>340146521
Hopefully as a weekly brawl mode but nothing permanent.
>>340148041
The key elements of a Moba are creeps, lanes and some sort of core/ancient.
Overwatch has none of those things. It's an Arena Shooter.
>>340148213
I have no problem with them calling it a multiplayer online battle arena, I have a problem with it being called a fucking MMO. MMO implies a massive amount of people in one server, that's what the fucking word means.
>>340146236
I have 3 minutes as her. Am I safe?
I have like an hour and a half. What are you going to do about it?
>>340148264
>literally nobody called """""pro gamer""""" because the play a moba fps competitive
Give me a source I have proof you have nothing.
>>340146698
Foolish gerrrrl.
>>340148292
>It's an Arena Shooter.
Do arena shooter have classes? Ults? Cooldowns? Abilities? Object modes? No?
>>340146698
>>340147001
I tend to go monkey on their ass but I agree. I don't know which makes me angrier, their sill or my lack of skill to counter Widow them.
>>340146515
>>340148150
overwatch is not an arena shooter my dumb friends
quake or unreal tournament is an arena shooter
you can call this genre hero based shooter for now.
>>340148484
it's a fucking moba the game has more stuff from league and dota than it has shooting elements.
>>340147631
She is like the Punisher, you see the pink in the horizon and give up all hope of a decent game
In fps games in general does no-scoping with a sniper have any penalties like the shot doesn't go where you aim at or it does less damage and such?
>>340148564
Depends on the game. In TF2, your shot was pinpoint accurate but you couldn't charge it or get headshots, so it only did 50 damage compared to doing 150-450 for proper charging/headshots. Most other games I've played have the shot doing full damage but having insanely bad spread of you're not scoped in. Overwatch just has her have a rapid fire machine gun if she's not scoped in.
>>340146515
>durr I am so retarded
What's the hardest defense team comp to counter?
I think Bastion/Reinhardt/Mercy, Widowmaker, Torbjorn and McCree is one of the hardest ones I can think of. Mainly because it requires a shitload of teamwork to counter. Every time I try to take down one of the four groups, one of the other ones always inevitably takes me out while I'm distracted.
>>340148646
ok thanks
>tfw 2 hours Widowmaker
>tfw only ever play her with the assault rifle, haven't touched sniper mode once
>high risk frantic fighting throwing venom mines everywhere
its fun as fuck
>>340146236
>Widow is countered by
Winston, Reinhardt, Genji and Tracer
>McCree is kind of countered by
Zarya
ITT: Bad players who cry about Widow.
>>340146236
But I don't.Hanzois much morefun.
>>340149103
Genji and Tracer are debatable, they can flank but Widow can shut them out really easily if she pays attention and shoots back at them. Reinhardt can only counter her in the sense that he can shield and keep her from being able to do her job. Winston is the only somewhat reliable counter but even then she can headshot him as he flies through the air and then he'll be unable to take her down with his lighting before she rapid fires him to death.
>>340148458
>It's a moba
Does overwatch have creep camps? Lanes? Items? Towers? Nexus? Minions? No?
>>340147631
She was brainwashed to kill her husband, black widows kill their mate.
She has a grapphilng hook, that's her version of a web
She has a poison mine like spiders are poisonous
She has a big butt like spiders
Her pre order costume is black widow themed down to the black widow red bowtie
She's French, stereotype of French women being very sensual
Her skin is purple because of her slowed downed heart or whatever
Clothes is to match her skin, as well as a stylistic choice on her design, not everything needs to be realistic, though she probably sticks to shadows and is very far away from any target since she's a future sniper.
>>340148484
MOBA shooter.
What's wrong with MOBA?
It's a good.
>>340148458
so why don't you call it an RPG because it has abilities, you bozo?
>>340146521
sauce pls
I saw a gif of this the other day and the OP left me hanging
>>340146521
>not posting the wholeanimation
Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble with Widowmaker?
She's made out of paper mache.
She can get the jump on you once. When you're aware of her position you can rush it with almost anyone with decent mobility and crush her.
If she's a good player then you might lose the subsequent fight or they'll keep changing positions. But the same could be said of any character.
Don't know why I bothered responding. These threads are always made by babies who recently got killed by one character or the other and don't have the skill to counter.
>>340149462
because there is no character progress and you don't roleplay?
>>340149562
>>340149562
>because there is no character progress
like in a moba?
>>340149206
And for good reason, those arrows might as well have been plungers, dat hitbox so big senpai.
>>340146236
I want jinx type character.
>>340149819
>levels earned in game to get more powerful
>item builds
>>340149206
SEE that which is unseen!
>>340149925
so you're saying you agree that overwatch is not a moba?
>>340149903
Punk Tracer
>>340149984
>>340149925
what's wrong anon?
suddenly quiet because you managed to KO yourself?
>>340150194
If characters having skills is apparently the defining feature of a MOBA, then Halo: Reach would be a MOBA, no?
>>340150873
yes
tf2 is a moba as well
can't compete with people who get daily steroid injections into their wrists and take meth in pill form to practice 72 hrs str8 with total disregard for their own lives.
huh i aint no gaymer
>>340151156
dude what
>>340151265
>Multiplayer
Check.
>Online
Check.
>Battle
Check.
>Arena
Check.
>>340146236
>Complaining about Widows when 95% of them are too retarded to notice the Reaper than just teleported next to them.
>>340150634
anon please>No mod tracer
>No teddy boy tracer
>>340146236
Learn to pick counters.
>>340146336
Also this.
>>340146236
Not even in my list, I'm fine.
>>340147331
>let's pretend it's 1910
I'm so glad I got this on ps4 so I don't have to deal with tryhard sniper faggots ruining every game
torbjorn and symmetra's turrets on the other hand
>>340150634
I do like crazy grills , be better if she had more guns or crazy about guns...
I wants a footjob by punk tracer
>>340152015
what websoot?
>>340151156
But tf2 has no special or ultimate attacks everyone has specific job but pretty much equal
>>340152312
http://masteroverwatch.com/
>>340146698
D.va/Winston
D.va kills her fast. go for headshots once you bop into her.
>>340151609
What exactly is supposed to counter this bitch
>inb4 edgy deathman
>>340152543
Edgy Deathman, a good Genji or a better Widow
>people getting buttblasted over what the genre of is
>I'm just sitting here enjoying the game
>>340146236
blame blizzard for giving her aim assist now all the autist think their helping push the obj by hiding in the corner
>>340146521
>play reinhardt
Problem solved
>>340152503
>D.va kills her fast
If you manage to boost next to her without her noticing, you have to stop because if you touch her while boosting, you knock her away from you
Your damage is dogshit so shooting head for 5 seconds might work but she'll just hook away and destroy your mech with her SMG
It's busted
>>340152543
Winston.
>playing as widow
>win first stage of koth
>next round 3 chimps fly out of spawn and smash my ass open
it sucks that I can't play as ass lady anymore but at least I made them mad
>>340152543
Winston hard counters her. He can leap right up to her, drop a barrier, fuck her up, then leap out of there.
Roadhog also counters her if you can get close enough to hook her
>>340146236
Why?
>>340152790
knocking into people causes 50 damage
>>340148965
Why not just play Soldier 76 and use his helix rockets instead of venom mines
>>340149494
Looks like Minus8 to me.
>>340152950
Only fags play her.
Widowmaker is just too strong. Her charge being TOO FUCKING FAST (enjoy your bodyshots with 150 damage each second), her SMG dealing 130 DPS (heh), hitscan weapon. Man, do I hate her.
>>340152790
Her hook is on a 12 second cooldown.
D.Va's boosters are on a 5 second cooldown.
Shave off a solid 2-3 seconds off D.Va's cooldown if you approached the Widowmaker properly and shaved her health off with the guns that actually do great damage at their optimal range.
You literally can follow her wherever she hooks to, and she cannot kill you with her assault rifle in the time it would take for you to kill her, due to your 75% armor pool.
D.Va counters Widowmaker pretty hard, assuming she is played properly.
>>340149426
Spiders don't have poison. It's venom. (Ingested vs injected) Isn't it even called a venom mine? Edumacate yourself.
>>340146698
I dont understand. Play D.va and charge into her location with your reflector up.
If you ram into her thats good but you dont have to. Finish her off with shots to the head. Shes likely a jumpy mofo at this point so keep that in mind.
Teams that always try to counter a sniper with another sniper dont always succeed you need to use aggression tanks like D.va.
>>340148368
man, normal skin WM would had been perfect
How come people hate playing against Widowmaker but not Mei? I am seriously confused.
>>340154362
Mei is ez. A shot or two to the head and she's in the dirt.
>>340154362
Mei is too easily counterable by many characters
>>340154362
Because Mei sucks shit while widow is one of the absolute strongest heroes in the game.
>>340154362
Mei is simple. Her melee-range makes her an easy target for anyone.
The only way Mei can get you is if she manages to freeze you before you notice her.
>>340146236
why so mad?
Overwatch isn't a MOBA because it doesn't have lanes or creeps and it doesn't take 30 fucking minutes on average to win a game.
It's a shooter with lots of classes named "heroes" that have 3 to 4 special abilities. That shit was most likely taken and inspired from MOBA's, but it doesn't mean it's one.
>>340146913
gahdamn that motherfucker gettin off! holy shit!
I've lost count of the amount of loads I've blown to this bitch
>>340155587
STOP FAPPING TO MY WAIFU
>>340155161
Hating widowmaker is just a meme, like how everyone hated,or still hates mei when the game barely came out. People just gotta git gud and stop getting outplayed.
>>340155161
That icicle shot thing also does a surprisingly amount of range damage, so she's not JUST melee only.
>>340146236
>8 hours with Widowass
Feels good m8
>>340152918
>jump on her
>she jumps away herself
>gets healed by the pathetic damage you delt
>snipes your hot monkey dick whilst you are useless
>>340147090
and that is still a good widow that is still fully capable of shutting down a team.
>>340155868
Nah but she has to HIT with the icicle. And that she can only do if you're frozen.
Unless she's gud.
>>340149549
If you go to OW forums (bad decision), you will see at least 15 threads daily with 300 replies where people whine and cry that she is OP and should be gassed.
>Like sniping
>can't even have fun with Widow because she's so fucking disgustingly easy
I want to strangle the piece of shit that designed her. it's like sniperfags wet dream
At least I can still get good with Hanzo
>>340146236
>Oh hey, its another episode of "Overwatch character x is shit based on my anecdotal evidence of random games instead of giving an explanation as to why."
You could have said this about mei's ice walls or mcrees fan the hammer but you chose one of the most balanced characters because you felt jaded losing to some widowmaker earlier
>>340157132
>like sniping
>like
>>340157498
>balanced
>Full charge deals 150 damage
>Full charge in one (!) second
>Rifle is insanely spammable with a non-existant reload
>Literally wallhacks for 15s that's easy as shit to charge
There's a reason she's picked in every
>competitive
game you know
>>340149549
I can tell you've never actually seen a good Widowmaker before
>>340157646
Don't forget she can launch herself into the air and kill someone before they can even react
cancer here
she's my most played hero by far. idgaf. I only ever play sniper in TF2 as well.
if it makes you feel any better I don't go sniper if there's already one on my team
>>340157690
I dunno. If she plays anything like >>340146913
or she's slingshotting herself in the air and consistently sniping your entire team that way then she deserves to win. She's just a better player at that point
her gun isn't hitscan so it isn't that easy to snipe if the enemy knows you're around and spam a and d. she is pretty good if you catch the enemy unaware though.
This is going to be a retarded question, but how do I type to all in a match?
>>340158198
/m
/match
>>340146698
>no one mentions genji
GENJI is the BEST widow bully
when my team is on defense and doesn't have a widowmaker yet i'll pick her.
>>340158315
>not d.va
>>340155759
Your waifu a slut.
>>340148041
>>340148150
>>340148134
>>340148213
>>340148484
>>340148264
>>340148316
lmao you people are actual living embodiments of the "bitter argumentative nerd" stereotype
>>340158198
You can also press TAB to switch to all.
>>340158198
Press tab after pressing enter
>>340158135
>clearly the player is just too good. the character isn't broken at all.
yeah okay
>>340158194
>her gun isn't hitscan
>>340158198
You can press tab in the chat to switch between channels.
Alltalk isn't the default channel to contain filthy-mouthed idiots (which I hope you aren't)
>>340158467
it's not, retard.
Rate me, /v/.
>>340158421
>>340158428
>>340158502
Thank you, I don't think they mentioned it at all. Thought it was a key like T desu
>>340156992
She is kind of overpowered. Her sniper rifle has a fast fire rate, tons of ammo and it only takes 1s to charge. Unscoped it's a fucking AR that does 13 damage per shot (76's does 15)
She has insane mobility, 200 HP and an ult that gives team wide map hacks but doesn't have a map wide tell despite less powerful ults from other characters having map wide tells (and in the case of d.va, A massive warning symbol ontop of it)
Like, if you're complete garbage at aiming a sniper you'll probably not be great, but her kit is absurd for anyone who's even mediocre at sniping in other games like CS:GO or even TF2
>>340158515
>widowmaker
dropped
fucking uninstall
>>340158467
She seems unfair when you compare her to other snipers in other fps games because a team based arena fps can play drastically different, especially with the variables of every hero like in overwatch. A lot of characters already have a lot of sense of mobility. Plus if you're a decent offense character you should be able to easily flank any widowmaker since they can't do shit at close range. A lot of people don't consider range being a huge factor for each hero in this game and thats why i think we see so many people getting potg as the edgelord reaper.
>>340158515
virgin
She just doesn't click with me. I get the point of snipers in open world games, but I can't wrap my head around having to camp in these small as fuck maps.
>>340159081
at high level play the game boils down to whose widowmaker is better
this game has a lot of stupid shit, but widowmaker right now is undoubtedly the stupidest
just look at this shit and tell me it belongs in this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9PPqIWYwII
>>340146913
why isnt anyone on the opposite team just SHOOTIN HER FROM INSIDE THE SPAWN POINT?
shit, when the enemy team is doing that to my team i just go bastion, camp with the spawn point wall in front of me and mow everyone down. Not that difficult
>>340159215
Rushing a Widow as Lucio by skating along side the wall to get to her is so much fun
Half of them don't even expect it and I end up either killing them, or pushing them off their little campsite.
>>340159380
Because then he just moves out of the line of sight and waits for you to come out, genius
>>340159578
which would solve the problem of her snipping your teammates as they spawn.
>>340146698
>baby's first FPS
Seriously, if you think she's that hard to handle either your team sucks or you suck.
Here, I'll list all the ways you can easily counter a good widow
>flank
>avoid
>counter snipe
>block her line of sight with Mei
>knock her off her perch with Pharah
>block her shots with Reinhardt
>charge her with DVa with shield up
>leap onto her with Winston
>shield bubble with Winston
>shadowstep across her line of sight and get behind her with Reaper
>deflect with Genji and ream her
>hook with Roadhog (depends on distance)
>spam her with Junkrat
>harass her with Symmetra charge shots
I'm sure there are more that I'm missing but that's most of them. Most of the cast has some way to counter her and if one person on your team can't do it you're going to lose anyway.
Bitching about widow is just as valid as bitching about Bastion. They are why tanks and characters like Genji and Reaper exist.
>>340158515
>honzo
>mcskill
>widow
You do whatever you want senpai but, dang those are some annoying characters to fight.
>>340146515
>arena shooter
Am I to old to be here? Does anyone remember what arena shooter means?
I don't claim to know what weird genre it falls under, but by Crom is it ever not an arena shooter
Imagine a first person shooter without snipers.
>>340146236
BEND OVER WATCH
>>340160291
The perfect utopian fps
>What are counters
>>340146336
>>340151609
>>340146534
What is it about Widow and Hanzo that attract the most useless shitters imaginable?
95%< they're complete shit and useless. Even worse when a healer/tank switches to them for some retarded reason.
If you're gonna be shit, at least act as a fucking meat shield.
>>340162685
Please tell me there is a youtube video of this.
There must always be a Widow and a Hanzo on your team, and they must be shitters
It's just the way it is
>>340148041
>But its not a arena shooter its a moba fps.
Yeah no.
There's no creeps, buildings, itemisation, levelling or versatile playstyles on heroes.
Each hero can only do 4 or less things and their gameplay is extremely narrow.
>people literally believe there's any complexity to drafting in Overwatch
My sides have reached a new dimension.
>>340157132
>Hanzo
>Git Gud
Won't take you long with his 3 foot wide arrow hitboxes.
>hanzo
>aim anywhere near the feet with the scatter arrow
>one shot on most heroes
T-thanks
>>340163748
Sniper characters attract shitters
Shitters like the idea of being able to kill people from long range without actually having to be involved in major conflict with them
>>340146236
SMELLY
PURPLE
FRENCH
PUSSY
>>340163748
Bad Blackwidows and Hanzos feel like they're good by killing enemies while being almost completely out of the fight. Basically pussies.
These are also the same people who will almost never contest a payload or zone, even if it costs them THE FUCKING GAME, because they don't want to die.
You know what pisses me off the most in this game?
That this fat bitch can contest points even in her ice block.
Literally why? It's fucking 4 free seconds worth of time, and often enough for the rest of the team to come back.
OFFICIAL OVERWATCH MAP RANKING
>GOD TIER
Dorado
Route 66
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
>GOOD TIER
Hanamura
Hollywood
Volskaya Industries
>OKAY TIER
Lijiang Tower
King's Row
Numbani
>SHIT TIER
Ilios
Temple of Anubis
Nepal
>>340165975
She's Defense. That's her job. She's built to contest payloads and objectives well.
>>340158315
I've tried too many times to reflect a sniper bullet for a headshot but they always miss
How does Reaper even counter Widow? Presumably whoever says this means teleporting behind her and meatshotting her ass but your tp plays a sound effect which the widow can hear and charge a headshot on you while youre immobile. How? In any other scenario your range as Reaper is laughable and Widow will eat you up.
>>340146236
I wish you fucking faggots would direct your criticism towards the game designers who unironically put her in the game as powerful as she is, and not the players who play her
>>340166073
>>340166121
>it's okay that she takes absolutely no effort to be effective at all and sucks all the fun out of the game for everyone involved!
mei is a class for shitters who want to play an FPS without any of the aiming or positioning required. how anyone at blizzard thought w+m1 pyro clone needed stuns and godmode as well I'll never know.
>>340166394
by not teleporting right next to her you dumdum
>>340166073
>actually fucking putting Chokepoint: Gibraltar that high
>>340159370
Thoe shots seem pretty sick and hard to nail, I couldn't do that
>>340165975
>whoa why does this character's ability let her do things that are entirely within her role, and I daresay, the whole point of her character design?
>>340166073
>God Tier
Dorado
King's Row
Temple of Anubis
>Good Tier
Lijiang Tower
Illios
Volskaya Industries
>Okay Tier
Hollywood
Route 66
Numbani
>Shit Tier
Nepal
Watchpoint Gibraltar
Hanamura
>>340166593
>There's no reason to have any of the other defense heroes because Mei outclasses them all in their individual aspects
>>340166073
Allow me to fix that.
>GOD TIER
Route 66
llios
>GOOD TIER
Hollywood
King's Row
Nepal
Lijiang Tower
Dorado
>MEH TIER
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
Hanamura
Numbani
>UNDISPUTED SHIT TIER
Temple of Anubis
Volskaya Industries
>>340146386
>Play something that requires skill
I love this shitty argument. I'm having fun, why do I need something more complicated for the sake of "skills"
>Snipers shut down 99% of the bullshit people can get away
>Some reason /v/ hates them
I don't get it.
>>340148484
You fags are going to end up making this game harder to categorize than fucking Bayonetta/Devil May Cry.
>>340166073
>God Tier
Dorado
Ilios
>Good Tier
Volskaya
Lijiang Tower
Numbani
Nepal
>Okay Tier
King's Row
Hanamura
Temple of Anubis
>Low Tier
Route 66
Hollywood
>What the fuck were they thinking Tier
Gibraltar
>>340166073
Okay tier
Dorado
Temple of Anubis
Volskaya Industries
Bad tier
Hanamura
Lijiang Tower
Route 66
King's Row
Shit tier
Gibraltar
Hollywood
Numbani
Nepal
Ilios
>>340146386
So play nothing from this decade basically.
I never did try Bloodline Champions but there ya go.
>>340146236
Just had a game with a Widowmaker bitching at the whole team for not defending while she just ran away and didnt defend the cart. Even bitched at me, as a tank for dying while I was literally the only person defending the cart, by myself.
Widowmaker should just be removed from the game 2bh
>>340166804
>Snipers shut down 99% of the bullshit
such as? what does widow counter that can't be countered by something else?
>>340146236
I have 2 hours on every character and another 6 with those I like.
>>340152772
I keep forgetting he can see behind him..
>>340157132
Remember to spam more than Junkrat.
>>340167202
Only hard counter to roadhog is Reaper.
>>340167202
>Genji listed as a Roadhog counter but not Mei
What
>>340167202
How is roadhog a counter to tracer?
I shit all over him and the length of the hook windup means he never pulls me in
>>340152630
As well as a good bastion and Roadhog for the hook
>>340167202
>All the shit thats flat out wrong in this image
>Mei countering Torb
>A MELEE RANGE ONLY CHARACTER COUNTERING A FUCKING TURRET
Its like they just randomly assigned counters.
>>340167202
Yeah it feels like genji and hanzo were put on as counters for no reason other than sympathy for being terrible. In any situation where hanzo is listed as a counter, widow is much better in every possible way
>personne n'échappe à mon regarde
>>340167202
>mei
>no tanks
>torbjorn countered by mei and reaper
>zenyatta
>no widowmaker
>reinhardt countered by roadhog and zenyatta
>mcree countered by anyone
>widowmaker countered by 76
stop posting this
>>340167202
No Widowmaker under Zenyatta's counters?
He has no advanced mobilility options and is instagibbed if her charged shot grazes his toe
>>340167458
>genji
>terrible
Genji is a fucking beast in the right hands
>>340167406
>Can use a wall to render its view worthless
>Mei's health pool and alt-fire can let her exchange fire with it and kill the turret if left unattended
I can see why she'd be listed.
>>340167294
Sustain damage dealers can fuck him up, if he misses the hook, especially Zen. To guarantee the miss all you need to do it is to have Rein
Anyone feel just straight up useless as D.va? I feel I may as well just play monkey and give em the dik
>>340167458
>Yeah it feels like genji and hanzo were put on as counters for no reason other than sympathy for being terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-SE2Qeqj1g
Hanzo's not so great, but good Genjis are a fucking nightmare.
>>340146236
So easy to counter. I'm only pissed you shitters crowd up my team with this woman whenever a decent widow maker joins the other team.
>>340166073
>GOD TIER
Dorado
Route 66
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
>GOOD TIER
Hanamura
Hollywood
Numbani
>OKAY TIER
Ilios
Temple of Anubis
Nepal
>SHIT TIER
Lijiang Tower
King's Row
Volskaya Industries
>>340167679
Nah. Dont play her like a pure tank. Try to always fly behind the enemy and fuck them up from there, then fly away when they pull back. she's excellent to harass, and pretty good in area with pits
>>340167679
I can't help but feel the same. Her dash is good but christ her regular guns are dreadful.
>>340167202
>no widow counter to Zenyatta
litearlly impossible to play Zen against a decent widow
>>340167294
I honestly never have issues with reapers, beyond deathblossoms outta nowhere
Piggly Wiggly is a better shotgunner
>>340167629
See thats the thing, it requires him to miss the hook so its not a hard counter its a failure on the part of the player. Reaper is the only character who can 1 v 1 Roadhog and come out on top. Everyone else just has to pray to god they dont get hooked or its game over.
>>340146236
>not exclusively switching to purpleass to bully dwarfs and turret mains
its like you don't like to have fun
>>340168148
>Purpleass
>Instead of Hanzo
is 50% force win rate a myth or meme?
>>340168003
>her regular guns are dreadful.
Her guns are fucking strong up close, which is where you should be
>>340148213
mobas are isometric RTS knock offs.
>>340167768
Seagull really makes Genji shine as a character.
Is this footage from the early beta? I notice Symmetra's shield buff is 50 instead of 25
>>340168197
>Hanzo
>Instead of Widow
Why downgrading?
>>340168217
It's Blizzard balancing.
>>340168217
Yes its what shitters tell themselves.
But then I play with a full group of friends so maybe in pubs its worst.
>>340146236
You mispelled it kiddo
*a single hour of overwatch
Ftfy
>be the hogger.
>Self heal that negates the need for healers
>Hook basically makes every encounter an auto win unless you're going up a tank.
>Q to blast entire teams off the side of the map.
He is literally the only viable character for matchmaking with randos
>>340168197balistic arcs
>>340168310
Hanzo has:
>Team wiping ult
>His shift can literally do what Widows ult does
>Multi shot for blasting niggers trying to hide out in rooms
>Superior mobility
Widow has
>...
>A scope that serves as crutch for bads who can't aim
>er..
>...
>A nice ass?
>>340168438
What do you use after the hook, the spread shot or the other? I can never 1-shot like the other Roadhogs, feelsbadman
>>340168438
no good skins though
>>340168535
You cant be serious nigger. Widow is a far better sniper and got the best ult in the game. He she is the most mobile of the two. This aint even my opinion, its known facts agreed by the pro-scene
>>340153919
In order to jump the widow you need to get to the back line, you know past all her dps teamates as a giant mech suit as she is bodyshotting you
>>340168691
>Overwatch
>pro-scene
>>340147818
A fight between widow and Hanzo is pretty good. While it is easier to aim with widow, hanzo can reliably mark her snipers nest and see her through the wall for prefixing as well as scatter arrows to secure the kill after getting a body shot. Most my friends try and say widow is better, but I say she's just easier
>>340163862
there is a youtube video of this
>>340168535
Hanzo has
>low range
>low utility
>decent damage
>virtually useless ult
Widow has
>long range
>high damage
>high utility
>one of the best ults in the game
>>340168953
There are tournaments, so yes, there's a pro-scene. Skills or not, just like Heartstone.
>>340168290
yeah. Genji was a fair bit stronger back then with the Symmetra 50 shield, but Seagull still makes him work in current competitive games.
>>340168587
>Hook>M1>Melee>Dead
>>340168598
>not wanting to be a Sharku instead of a Piggu
>>340167361
Nigger, bastion doesn't counter widow you dumbie
>>340168535
Hanzo has:
>Travel time on his projectiles
>Inferior mobility (the fuck are you on?)
>Easily avoidable ult except in very niche situations
>Mediocre recon
Widow has:
>No travel time
>Can scale vertically and horizontally
>Ult that the other team can do nothing about but live with it
>>340168217
I've been able to maintain a 40-50 win lead so far but yeah, I don't think there's people with win/lose ratios higher than 60%
>>340169039
>low range
Learn to arc your arrows scrublette, he doesn't use hit scan like Widow
>low utility
Literally wrong
>decent damage
Negatory, his arrows do more damage than Widow's boolets even at full charge
>virtually useless ult
You're a waifu fag, we get it.
>long range
Same range bae.
>high damage
Less actually
>high utility
Literally her only utility is her ult which Hanzo does on his shift and a spider mine that will never kill anyone.
>one of the best ults in the game
Who are you lying to?
>>340146386
I bet you play mobas you little casual piece of shit.
>>340156064
>she jumps aways
>your jump colldown is like a third of hers
Follow her?
>the play of the game is an ult
>the player's actual shooting prior and after the ult is laughable
>>340169306
>this is what hanzo players actually believe
>>340167679
Dva is ment to survive and harass, constantly applying pressure.
>>340169130
>Ult that the other team can do nothing about but live with it
Kill her?
>>340169306
Are you seriously downplaying a 15 second wallhack compared to a "oh it's hanzo's ult, better walk 2-3 yards to my left"
>>340146236
this game has become cancer to /v/. there needs to be a new board for this, ala /mlp/ so the rest of us will be spared from this cesspool
>>340169447
so is winston
