What do you think it will finally take for people to admit digimon is better than Pokemon?
A single thing that makes Digimon good and not just an edgy rip-off would be a start.
Probably a good, stern, blow to the head.
>>340120582
>Memebattle
>>340120582
A natural, genuine change of opinion.
These answers sound like Cards Against Humanity cards
>>340120582
A traumatic life event that alters one's personality
>>340120582
And you care because?
Anal sex
Brainwashing
It would take Digimon being good.
>>340120582
Consistence in developing good games, rather than being most miss and occasional hit. Pokemon main games are always good, if formulaic. Digimon has some great games but none of them really play alike, and it's too hard to stick the franchise given how spotty it is about releasing a new, constantly enjoyable game.
>>340121610
More demand = more digimon.
>>340122508
>turn digimon into a soulless rehash
No.
>>340122974
Would you be fine if that demand increased but people still enjoyed Pokemon?
>>340123065
It's already that except no organization in how to sell it's soulless rehash
>>340123485
No, there can be only one.
>>340120582
I've played some pokemon games in my time, I've also played digimon world 1. Therefore Digimon is the better series because Digi world 1 was a godlike game.
>>340123827
And is that really some sort of cosmic rule?
>>340124178
Yes.
>>340124493
According to what?
>>340124971
My benis
a good game.
>>340120709
>edgy rip off
Alright Im almost positive you a trolling but I'll take the bait.
Digimon - Boy's Tomagachi
Pokemon - Fucking Pokemon
At the end of the day they both "ripped off" SMT.
>>340120582
Its a war we lost long ago. It comes down to personal taste and pokemon had more variety to appeal to a larger audience and better advertising. Digimon could easily reboot seeing we're in a "digital age" and I'm hoping whatever Appmonsters is makes a breakthrough in phone games rather then be p2w garbage.
>Bandai
Right, not happening.
>>340125710
only americans think the two are in any way comparable anyway, in Japan they don't really compare the two
as for me
pokemon = for adventuring
digimon = for fapping
>>340126107
>in Japan they don't really compare the two
THIS
The entire "rivalry" never existed and was only a fabrication made in Western school playgrounds due to word "mon"
digimon is like k-mart pokémon
>>340126403
That would be Beyblade
>>340126107
>digimon for fapping
>when it's porn is shit
Why even give the fanbase lady devimon when seemingly all they want to do is fap to young gay boys and muscly furries. Or the fox.
>>340126509
>implying I don't fap to kemodigi
>>340126358
pretty much, the only time the two are put together is when it was deliberate
>>340126107
I understand.
>>340126769
nah mang I fap to the likes of JagerDorulumon
>>340121059
>taking a name and just switching one of the words with "meme"
>>340120582
Lol. Op, everyone knows DQ Monsters is the best mons games
>>340126831
have you ever considered fapping to Millies??
>>340127182
2overthetop
>>340125710
yeah pokemon ripped off SMT so much that Atlus made Devil Kids.
>>340126831
My stament stands, digimon is wasted on its fanbase.
>>340127410
more like it only exists due to its fanbase
have you seen tri or CS? basically pandering to the max, it's the only way it survives
At the final moment Greymon digivolves and hands Charizard his ass.
>>340127482
Tri has been pretty crap so far and CS/NO are nothing special.
So no, my statement remains. Sure they can live off of them but the digimon fanbase is as bad the nostalgia fags of Pokemon that will eat Go up
>>340127750
That's what happened in the actual episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcz2vHLqtNw
>>340127843
you just agreed with me though
basically the non-furry fanbase of Digimon is now otaku-level since they don't even care about the toyetic aspects of the show
I mean sure they had the glory days on Xros Wars but somehow Toei Bandai plundered the success
>>340120582
The most you're really going to get people to admit is that Digimon is stronger than Pokemon in a power level sense.
>>340128227
What non-furry fans?
>>340127396
>SMT (as Megami Tensei) : 1987
>Pokemon 1995
>"Pocket Monsters" : As early as "1989 or 1990".
You decide.
>>340129024
the otaku fans
>>340129024
Me, I know I'm not one. (Yet)
But I just sperg out on every monster collector I can play. Digimon (and Pokemon) being Monster Collectors.
>>340128980
I don't know, it's weird. Pokemon are either really weak or really OP. There are Pokemon that can either get shredded by any Digimon, like Pikachu or Talonflame, and then there are Pokemon that can obliterate any Digimon without batting as eye, like Arceus and Palkia.
>>340129442
most of the Digimon's OP stuff are relegated within the Digital World though
there are only a few instances where Digimon appeared in the real world, mostly relegated to the anime, and even then only the strongest ones do (i.e. Diablomon, the Xros Heart army, etc.)
>>340129154
The Japanese ones didn't watch xros wars. No one did because of the time slot change. And because it was shit. American otaku are more likely to be fujos so I guess your right about the non-furry part.
>>340129442
>any
Pokemon power levels are inconsistent
On one hand you have the interpretation of an Omnipotent Arceus on the other hand you have Arceus who nearly died because of "silver water" in the movie.
The strongest Digimon would be Zeedmillenniummon who is a multiversal entity that can casually warp time and space and mere presence wipes out entire universes. It was only defeated because of it was tsundere for a protagonist. Pokemon Pokedex may be ridiculous but one Digimon can flash a beam of light capable of pulverizing stars and shit.
>>340129814
>The Japanese ones didn't watch xros wars
kek
please time travel anon, /m/ was having a blast and was surprised it was doing so well, in fact it managed to make the brand alive
also the time slot change wasn't on the "dead zone", it was an hour later so it's relatively safe
>>340120582
Not happening, Game Freak knew that the winning move was a consistent series with consistent mechanics that are backwards compatible with older games, without ever retconning or leaving out anything apart some secondary stuff that didn't even affect battling.
Apart the gen 3 schism that is, because they overhauled the data structures so they would be future proof.
>There are people out there who seriously believe Pokemon X Digimon would be a good idea that could "make sense"
Digimon Adventure 01 and 02 are superior to the Pokemon anime.
>>340129839
>Pokemon movies/anime
Completely not canon.
>>340130008
well yeah, the OS era of Pokemon anime was shit
I disagree on 02 though, I feel like at least OS era was entertaining unlike the shitfest that is 02
>>340130030
>games and anime and the various manga series have their own canon
fix'd
there is no "singular" canon
>>340129912
Considering the director of CS blamed Xros for how shit it performed that they can't ever go for kids anymore, I won't.
The toys were shit too.
>>340130205
>director of CS
so pretty much a nobody? Xros saved Digimon because back then it and Pre Cure were the only Bandai toys that managed to go upwards
and say what, did the fag just forgot about the Digica Taisen cardass? It was pretty much the money maker of Digimon back then
So yeah, it's probably some faggot not knowing what to do with Xros Wars mons and decided to blame it on the show
>>340129442
Read some of the profiles.
Arceus is the alpha not the omega.
Though the Creation Trio and Mega Fug are your best bet but some Digimon are absurdly op.
Omegamon X can literally see the future and counter any attack.
Zeed was mentioned.
Ulforce Vedramon / Future Mode may not be the strongest by canon but he's a meta game joke and probobly could *telaport behiend u* nofin personel
Alphamon can attack so fast it's impossible to register.
too many to list but fuck.
>>340129442
>>340129839
Lorewise, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina should at least be universe level considering the "literal incarnation of time/space/whatever" thing they have going on, as well as universe creator Arceus.
In practice, though, everyone in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum just says the "world" will be destroyed without explaining what that actually means. I think someone uses the word "galaxy" once but that's as far as it goes.
Then besides those four, every other Pokemon in existence is far below planet destroying level. Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza are life wipers, Zekrom and Reshiram are country level, and Xerneas and Yveltal affect an unspecified radius with their nonsense.
>>340130440
Arceus can obliterate Mega Fug though by virtue of there can be more than one Arceus but no more than one Mega Fug
And like I said, you forgot to realize that most of the Digimon profiles tend to limit all of those to the Digital World.
>>340130440
>taking digimon profiles at face value
Yeah, I'm sure vikemon can punch so hard he bends time.
>>340130440
Adding to your post there's also how going by game canon, all Pokemon get one hit KO'd by Sheer Cold.
Sheer Cold is described to be a move that freezes the opponent in Absolute Zero.
Omnimon, MetalGarurumon, Vikemon, and AncientGarurumon are capable of either flash freezing their opponents in that temperature or just firing a giant blast of it.
Not to mention Tri Alphamon shrugged it off.
>>340130730
the problem is that you have to bring the pokemon into the digital world first
>>340120582
Probably nothing. While Digimon is certainly not dead, Pokemon is one of the most popular game series in the world, with a rather loyal fanbase. In addition, many people find the smoother art style of Pokemon to be more appealing, as opposed to Digimon, which has stuff like Kabuterimon (favorite one tbqh), designs that are unappealing to some, especially Pokemon fans who use over the top Digimon designs (see wolf man with pants and scarves) as examples of why they don't like Digimon.
TLDR, nothing short of the death of Pokemon or it's fanbase will change it.
>>340130871
That isn't the case (I honestly don't recall them mentioning that a Digimon's power is weakened when it steps into the real world).
Plenty of Digimon ventured into the "real world" and were still capable of what they normally managed to pull off in the Digital World.
Quartzmon engulfed the entire Earth in Boy Hunters, Vikaralamon rampaged in Tamers, and when Lucemon from Frontier was entering the human world everything started to resemble the "fractal code" as seen in the Digital World.
>>340130373
>trust in the word of some anonymous person that actually likes xross wars
>or the person that works for the digimon company and worked on even the xross wars story games (which were the least awful of the lot on the ds)
>>340130594
>and Xerneas and Yveltal affect an unspecified radius with their nonsense
Actually, it says that if Yveltal dies, it goes into a cocoon, and it completely kills everything on the planet by instantly shucking all life out of them for energy to create it. After an unspecified amount of time, it hatched and is reborn.
Basically, even when you win against Yveltal, you lose.
>>340126107
This poster is correct.
>>340130603
>Arceus can obliterate Mega Fug-
you made him cry godamnit anon
>And like I said, you forgot to realize that most of the Digimon profiles tend to limit all of those to the Digital World.
Digimon are typically limited to the digital world yes, in fact they cant leave unless the Digital world overlaps with earth. Unless they decide fuck all else and break the rules on this. It's inconsistent.
>>340130619
We dont know but if we're arguing in pokemon animu then why not cherry pick all the way.
>>340130730
Fissure is an earthquake but so is earthquake. What about Horn Drill and Guillotine? If we're bringing Pokemon logic into this its just more confusing.
>>340131693
Does that include Ghost Pokemon and Magearna?
>>340131693
>shucking
Sucking*.
Liking Digimon is like enjoying Superman: I cant get down with it because there usually isnt a sense of danger because of how OP everyone is. Losing? Just fuse. Losing after you fuse? Fuse some more. That fail? POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.
I must say for a power level thread on /v/ nonetheless this has been quite civil.
>>340131693
>kills everything on the planet by instantly shucking all life out of them
Gives a whole new meaning to "the world is your oyster".
>>340131790
>anon realizes shonens are shit
>on other news, the same man is surprised by the fact air is a fluid and water is wet
>>340131460
>anonymous person
>not going to the archives of /m/
And yeah if you are using the games as a gauge for the show then you really are fucked. The Digimon Story games are terrible, and that includes Cyber Slut, so he shouldn't really be harping a series when the game series he works on is shit on principle.
You probably mistook Digimon Story: Super Xros Wars to the Digica Taisen which was a hit.
>>340126107
> pokemon = for adventuring
> digimon = for fapping
Faggot, have you seen /vp/? It's nothing but waifufags everywhere. At least Digimangs are more fun to watch because the MC don't just get trumped by faggot trainers every new series.
>>340130619
Well, Superboy once hit reality so hard that he broke it. Which reminds me, the Pokedex is also hilariously full of lies.
>>340131729
it's consistent in the anime portrayals at least
in Adventures the mons are weakened
in Tamers I think it's due to some third party power
in Savers it's the whole plot point
in Xros Wars they get severely weakened that only super strong mons can survive
>>340131272
those were high tier mons though
>>340132234
personal tastes anon, not talking about the fandom
of course both have degenerates, but for me I get hard on with kemodigi
>>340132319
The Pokedex is hilarious, though.
>>340132180
You're not presenting anything to help your argument other than opinions.
I usually like Pokemon designs better but I have a huge soft spot for this Digimon for some reason. Idk, it's adorable.
>>340132234
Maybe he's talking about the Yasuda characters. Yasuda draws intentionally sexy characters while Pokemon characters aren't deliberately meant to attract cock (although they do regardless).
>>340132508
>opinions
>literally pointing out where to look for
really the only problem is whether or not the archives used by /m/ would go back to 2012
also
>calls out on opinions when it's the DSfag also claiming his opinions
>>340132561
my rulebook is that you can't really say "A Pokemon looks like a Digimon" when a Digimon evolves into either a husbando, a waifu, a mecha, or a combination of the three.
>>340132561
This girl, Merilyn, was designed as fapbait.
Hilariously enough, the more plain girl has more porn last I checked.
>>340132664
No I mean the human characters (none of the beasts in Pokemon or Digimon), such as the protags of the newest game.
>>340132803
Ah well I mostly focus on the mons than the humans in either franchise
>>340132664
Anon, you are telling me to go look at the opinions of people that have a similar bias as yours. Surely you see the problem here.
>>340132767
Wasn't she only a very minor character in a movie? I'm talking soley about the games so I was thinking Sabrina, Cynthia, etc.
>>340132860
Yeah I can understand that, I mean there's the flower digimon girl for digimon and Meloetta for pokemon, so they both have waifu mons I suppose. I was just referring to human ones in my original post though, Yasuda draws stuff like this (DS2RB)
>>340132767
It's like they just bumble into success like they did with Pokemon originally.
Red and Green were bugged as all hell and still extended the life of a dying hand-held.
![[RyRo]_Digimon_Xros_Wars_-_10-11_(1280x720_x264_AAC)_[6D9A7BB1].mkv_snapshot_42.17_[2012.05.26_22.51.52].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zLHno2S.jpg "[RyRo]_Digimon_Xros_Wars_-_10-11_(1280x720_x264_AAC)_[6D9A7BB1].mkv_snapshot_42.17_[2012.05.26_22.51.52].jpg")
>>340132897
>opinions
>telling to go look for a fiscal report of Bandai
Xros was a success that the only reason it can't be implemented in the games is due to their unique stuff, and even then they get acknowledged in games like Re:D and the Adventure PSP game
here, have X4K doing Kuuga's pose
>>340133057
Yeah I know Yasuda's stuff
>>340133264
>I know Yasuda's stuff
Oh good.
That's a pretty robot, why is it so shiny?
>>340133192
How dare they fuck up my boy Heracross like that. Those Fearow and Emboar combinations are great though.
![[RyRo]_Digimon_Xros_Wars_-_10-11_(1280x720_x264_AAC)_[6D9A7BB1].mkv_snapshot_42.12_[2012.04.03_01.26.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YA2Wr9O.jpg "[RyRo]_Digimon_Xros_Wars_-_10-11_(1280x720_x264_AAC)_[6D9A7BB1].mkv_snapshot_42.12_[2012.04.03_01.26.04].jpg")
>>340133385
muh obari homage
Xros Wars is Digimon embracing the ridiculousness of Digimon and mixing it with Super Robot
>>340133264
>unique stuff
Why can't they just ignore it like the card game did?
Seems really unnecessary to force this shit.
>>340133268
That V mon and Sableye look like they can be genuinely real.
>>340133549
From what I can recall the drawings were made by an Anon from /vp/ who took requests of what Digimon and Pokemon should said Anon mix.
Heracross was combined with this
>>340133192
>emboar/cho-hakkaimon
Dick, no.
Digimon is too inconsistent. The rules change every time a new installment is made.
>>340133652
force what
>>340134192
Force the anime methods of evolution.
In hyper Colosseum they dropped that shit fast and so you got some interesting evolution lines out of it.
Ranamon just straight up turns into sakuyamon no problem unlike fairymon here who needs to jogress with her.
>>340133723
He looks kinda like beelzebub from SMT
>>340134615
problem is the mons in XW are all obvious fusion mechs, with specific names like Shoutmon X4 and such
there are evolutions, but mostly one single steps (Shoutmon -> OmegaShoutmon) and are implied to be "years into the future" evolution, and there's Shoutmon (king) ver.
>>340120582
A digimon game thats actually good?
>>340126932
>not meme slap
One job
Terriermon and Lopmon are the only good Digimon in all of existence.
i used to be rank 9 out of 500,000+ registered users in pokemon. ask me anything
competitive scene has stopped being "pure" around mid-4th gen, and you honestly shouldn't bother if you're thinking of going into competitive battling
>>340135620
Can you see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon toast crunch?
>>340135653
life cereal is the best. brown sugar variant sucks
>>340120582
Gens 1-3>Digimon>the rest of pokemon
>>340136393
nigger, gens iii-v was the pinnacle of the series. i and ii weren't bad. it started getting bad as soon as gen vi hit
>>340126107
>not fapping to both
>>340136501
and even then I'd argue VI has some of the best designed mons in the franchise, didn't help a certain Capcom employee started doing designs on that era
>>340120582
Yokai watch > pokemon > digimon
Alright. Enough shitposting. Rank the starters.
>>340136801
Here's the template.
>>340120582
A good Digimon game
maybe it will happen, in another decade
Because now even the Pokemon anime one-ups Digimon
Funny I was recently arguing with a pokefag that Greymon would beat the shit out of Charizard. Also CS was a good enough game.
charizard isn't even considered that strong. average height is also 5'7
pokemon is furrshit digimon not
>>340140934
>digimon isn't furshit
>>340120582
Everyone admitted they knew Charizard would lose and accepted it. Digimon being a better franchise is sadly not the case
Didn't they learn anything from Charizard vs Greymon?
>>340141619
Digimon is a better animoo. Digimon sadly doesn't have that many games except for a couple fun fighting games. That being said I don't see the appeal of pokemon rehashes in any case, but I guess to each it's own.
>>340141764
>Digimon is a better animoo.
I'm a huge Pokemonfag who thinks Digimon is dumb "muh powerlevel" horseshit with no depth, but even I agree with this 100%.
>That being said I don't see the appeal of pokemon rehashes in any case
I think it's very unfair to call Pokemon as a franchise "rehashes".
The gameplay of the mainline games is more or less the same, yes, but each generation adds enough new elements to gameplay to keep it fresh, while staying true to the core mechanics that drew so many people in in the first place. And that's ignoring the numerous spin-offs, such as the Mystery Dungeon games.
