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So /v/, is our bro Estinien surviving this patch? http://ww
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So /v/, is our bro Estinien surviving this patch?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10409653
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>>340108143
>So /v/, is our bro Estinien surviving this patch?

I can't imagine that they'd waste Alphinaud's speech at the end of last patch to just kill Estinien off.

It's Aymeric that's going to die.
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>>340108948
Fuck, this makes a lot of sense. I wish neither of them died, both are cool.
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>>340109227
The instant Aymeric said he was willing to kill Estinien I knew he was going to die.

Also he told the WoL he wanted to get a drink with him....and we all know what death flag that phrase set off last time.

;___;
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>>340109762
Ayymeric got a lot of death flags and got stabbed already, it's not happening.
They would (sadly) never kill the fujo favorite.
Estinien is going to die and take Krile with him.
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>>340110216
No way Krile is dying. She's becoming a fan favorite and she's involved with the Warring Triad quest.
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>>340110216
>Estinien is going to die and take Krile with him.
>Moenbryda-ing Krile

There's no way they'll pull that move TWICE, also Krile's taking Minfilia's place as the 'other Echo' user, there's no way they'll kill her.

I'm telling you it's going to be Estinien and the knife in the gut was just a red herring to get you to let your guard down so it'll hurt twice as bad when they actually kill him off.
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So I'm trying to level my MNK, but it seems the overall fastest way right now is to just do the dailies leveling dungeon. Nobody does fate parties anymore.
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>>340110436
Perhaps not now, but it's going to happen before 4.0, like the Roe Poochie.
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I skipped all the dialogue and cutscenes because I was in a rush

Can someone give tell me the story as short as possible?
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>>340110695
your character is the mary sue of light

there has been a war for a long time for Dragons vs ishengardians

dragons were actually betrayed and everything is a lie protected by the holy church "plot twist" the human are the real monsters

your character and alphinaud were going to make peace between the two factions

the big bad dragon is ultra mad and wants the war to keep going so he attacks the "peace conference" and summons a whole bunch of dragons, hence "the horde"

that's it
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>>340110695
>Can someone give tell me the story as short as possible?

The ancient Ishgardians betrayed and killed a dragon for her eyes because dragon eyes make you really powerful, one of her relatives (Nidhogg) got ultrapissed and declared war on Ishgard and has been fucking them up ever since

The Elezen Pope's predecessors lied to the people about what their ancestors did in order to maintain power

The WoL and allies are trying to broker peace between the two sides but Nidhogg is determined to fuck things up
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>>340110436

>becoming a fan favorite

How? She's spoken maybe 4 damn times.
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>>340110534
>killing a Lalafell 'hero' character

This will never happen. I was fucking amazed they even killed Teledji-Adeleji and made it extra brutal
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Consider the following:

>Unukalhai is Alisaie in disguise
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>>340111512
Felt so good.

I was mad as fuck that we didn't get to kill Yuyuhase too.
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New class when
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>>340111731
4.0
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>>340111718
>I was mad as fuck that we didn't get to kill Yuyuhase too.

Oh, don't you fucking worry. I'm pretty certain we'll settle Ilberd's hash along with his two little bitch boys in the next expac.

That little cunt Laurentius is due for full scale Redbellies gangbang. I bet Buscarron knows a few guys who know a few guys.
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>>340112095
>>340111718
>>340111512
>Not mad to not be able to kill the faggot, Dorito
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>>340112104
Yeah, go back to the /vg/ thread with the rest of your degenerate kind.

>>340112231
>Dorito
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>>340112104
Lightning hair should be genocided.
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>>340112104

Are all the hairstyles they have this shitty?
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>Invincible Plot Armor Tier
WoL, Alphinaud

>Could possibly die but the chances are extremely rare
Cid, Alisaie

>Could possibly die but odds are not high
Y'shtola, Krile, Y'mhitra, Raubahn, Kan-E, Merlwyb

>50/50 odds
Yda, Papalymo, Lucia, Artoirel, Hraesvelgar

>Not long for this world
Estinien, Aymeric

>Face/Heel Turn Tier
Urianger

>Must live on as a warning to others
Thancred
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>>340112926

>Implying any scions will die
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>>340111371
>Cute lala
>Character from a previous FF
>Bullies Alphinaud
What's not to like
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Alright guys, what server is the fullest right now that I can go to.

Balmug and Gilgamesh are full, what's the next best that isn't full? Cause Leviathan and Behemoth are also stuffed.
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>>340114710

You want a full server.
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>>340114538

>Character from a previous FF

Is that meant to be impressive? Do they share any qualities at all besides a name?
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>>340114905
But I can't get in, so what's the best option.

>inb4 more cheeky stuff and someone says 'uninstall'
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>>340115075


Unsub
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>>340112926
i dont think they would waste the time to rez those scions just to kill them again. unless sacrifice or something
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>>340111371

>Cute fem Lala
>Great design
>Bullies Alphi

She won me the 1st second she showed up. She's SO fucking cute.
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>>340115241
Yeah I guess I won't get help here, only retarded responses.
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>>340115502

I'm from EU so I don't know the american servers, you should try asking on /vg/.

pd: Ragnarok best server.
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>>340115471

>fem Lala

It is? How can you even tell?
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>>340109762
What if they both die?
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>>340115471
>lala
>cute
I only see a rodent.
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>>340111512
They better give Papalymo more screen-time I swear to god
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>>340114959

they both have cat ear hoods and have no issue putting fuccbois in their place
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>>340115953

Good God, how horrifying.
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disappointed that Zurvan the Demon isn't in this patch?

don't worry. he'll come in and kill/incapacitate von Hydrus halfway through the trial and he is the real fight
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>>340109762
oh I loved the small PTSD WoL showed when aymeric told him that
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>>340115953
>that horrible face
Get a better PC
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>>340115953
How does a lala take the dick?
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>>340116190

yeah i know. if they drop ps3 support the game may not even run on my toaster any more

good thing they're full of shit

>>340111612

also in my headcanon. look up what Unukalhai is and the lore gets deep
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Have someone fucking die god I'm still fucking salty the potato queen didn't die.
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>>340116356
no kidding, cant believe they had the balls to kill our bro hauchefant but didnt have the guts to kill the useless potato queen, it could have been a great tale about revenge.
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>>340116356

i'd put money down Ysayle will come back. She's far too not dead to not come back
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>>340116261

ecstatically
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>>340116261

Usually they're size-queens.
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>>340116261
I'd imagine it looks a lot like those meat stands you see on the streets in some cities. Just a hunk of meat on a pole, spinning in place.
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>>340108143
I'm really hoping that the Estihogg we see towards the end of the fight isn't just his "do these mechanics or die" move. I want that form to be his entire final phase.
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Gee I sure hope Nidhogg's Rage isn't gonna cause too many ragequits in learning. Get it? Ragequits.
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>>340118616
I'm on Balmung, I guarantee I'm going to end up ragequitting at least two or three Final Steps groups, because 80% of the players on our datacenter are boosted animals
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>>340116867
>She's far too not dead to not come back

She evaporated into aether. She's dead as fuck. You'd need a Bahamut tier Primal to bring her back as a thrall like he did Nael.
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>>340118943

she has the echo, and she had a supercrystal with her
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>>340119027
Minfillia had echo too.
Her physical form is gone, she's just residual energy now. You'd need a power to coalesce her into being, so either make her a primal proper (which won't really be her anyway) or have a primal materialize her.
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>>340119027
Maybe she got absorbed into the not-Lifestream and is now a part of the Mother Crystal.
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>>340119263

>Minfillia returns
>"Nice to be back everyone. By the way I found someone you may know swimming through the aether"
>It's Ysayle

Screencap this
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>Making people remember the difference between Raiton, Katon, Huton, Suiton, Doton and Hyoton is fine
>Fire/Fira/Firaga is too confusing
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>>340119378
They'd pull Louisoix out of there long before they'd pull Ysayle. The scions don't even know her besides being a hose to Shiva.
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>>340119592

Louisoix would probably fight being summoned as he knows what damage it does
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my theory for the tweest:

Hraesvelgr gives us a 'prove you can beat my brother' trial. after we kick his teeth in we get to talk to the real Shiva. she gets killed by Estinienhogg and we see an awesome dragon battle. Nidhogg wins. later, an ascian and the warriors of darkness takes hraes' eyes
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>>340108143
Someone's dying, that's for sure

WoL's life is almost nice again
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>>340119974
Ameryc has been putting deathflags on himself as soon as 3.1 started. My money's on him dying too.
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>>340108143
I dont think so, given how the patch trailer looks, you are killing off the dragons who supposedly supported you to begin with. One being whats its name that Lady Ice heart loved, he seems like he is pissed that you are going to kill Nidhogg.

I dont think he will survive, I think the song that plays at the end is the music for the fight, something sad, and we already known he has a human/dragon hybrid phase 2 in the fight.

Im going to guess he gets killed and takes Nidhogg with him into the life stream to finally get rid of him, now will there be a patch where you bring him back to life? Or perhaps Lady iceheart being alive "you know she is" and able to enter the life stream and exit, she could bring him back, you never know.

But my guess, hes gonna die and we are gonna cry.
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>>340120294
>cry
>for Estenien
Haha nope.
Very few characters in XIV even have the capacity to sufficiently endear towards themselves, Estenien certainly isn't one of them and neither was Haurchefant
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>>340120098
Why do all of my elf men have to die
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>>340112926
None of the Scions are dying. We lost Minifillia already (thank fucking GOD) but if we don't lose Estinien or Aymeric I'll be surprised.

36 hours left boys

>>340115471
Krile a best. Glad to see someone else recognizes it.
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>>340120615
To make way for all the new Highlander NPCs you'll get to know and love in Ala Mhigo.
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>>340118824
absolutely savage

also Primal datacenter is way worse than Aether
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>>340119942
Or a potato will take the eyes while mumbling about how they'd make the perfect power source for Omega Weapon.
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I'm going to go on a wild guess and say no one will die.
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>>340120758

not even Nidhogg. he flies away and gets captured by the Garleans, who think at first he's Bahamut
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>>340120583
It will be what he does in the cutscene after you do Final Steps, its going to be something long winded, long speech, sacrifice junk.
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What's a good gun for a Gnath cosplay?
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>There's no dyable Dreadwyrm weapons for some reason
I bet Nidhogg weapons are just Dreadwyrm recolors then
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>>340121119
Rav gun is the obvious choice.
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>>340108143
Fucking hope not, Hated that edgy faglord since the Dragoon Job quests. Fuck ass tries to kill you, then thinks all is well in Heavensward? Na fuck off
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>>340121639
>Sup bro, wanna go on a journey? I swear Nidhogg won't take me over again
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>>340111371
Because it's a potato that's not a little shit cunt
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>>340121218
Well fuck. That means I have to farm Rav.

At least it "should" be easier with the new ilvl? And at least I've beaten it before. How does the weapon work? Just do the fight 10 times and get tokens or until the weapon drops?
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>>340121737
YOU'RE NOT EVEN THE BEST DRAGOON YOU ASSHOLE! I CLEANED THE FLOOR WITH YOUR ASS!
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>>340121854
The new Rav EX meta is 1 tank, 1 heal, 6 dps

He dies in 3 minutes 30 seconds, you push the adds, and he dies during swift liberation.
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>>340121854

Rav ex is the second most broken extreme fight because of gear next to Leviathan, except skipping phases is a good thing on him

the dps requirement is now effectively so low as long as only 1 person dies to final liberation you're fine
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This is the first patch I'm going to be able to play at launch. What should I expect? I don't play with my FC, or anyone really, so DF it is. Is it going to be a total shitshow?
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>>340120583
>neither was Haurchefant

Fight me you motherfucker
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>>340122273
>What should I expect?

Servers breaking
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>>340122273
Unlock your expert dungeons asap
Get into the new void ark asap so you can enjoy learning the mechanics with everyone else
If you have people you can do ex trials with, get into the nidhogg fight asap
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Behemoth or Tonberry
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>>340122459
tonberry if you're oceania/sea
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>>340114959
Krile can talk to moogles and this Krile can see them...

They're both uh... short? And have an association with a magical crystal?
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Have you ever had trouble with a solo instance? I failed to slay axebeaks in the DRK 35 quest like three times before I succeeded, and even then I used every ability and barely survived. I guess I should have whipped out my chocobo but I felt like that was pussying out.
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>>340122969
Oh! And they both have dead grandfathers
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>>340123041
I failed the Coerthas quest when you fight the inquisitor a bunch on my first character.

Then I failed the level 20 GLD quest on an alt.
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>>340122275

Man, seems everyone was bawling their eyes out over horsefont. Might have impacted me were I paying closer attention to the story, but it can get hard to distinguish where the worthwhile parts are vs the shit filler only worth skipping.
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Holy shit.

Best guy Thancred lost all his magic. I know that has no impact whatsoever in the story but it just pains me to see him like that.
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>>340123456

He had magic?
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>>340123495

teleporting to aetherytes is magic
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>>340123495

He is a bard and a Ninja, so basically his songs and chakras
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>>340118943
>>340116867
I fucking wish she come back. Best looking girl in the entire game and her Japanese voice is delicious. Such a waste.
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>>340123889
He's not a nin.
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So who here is going to try against all odds to get a house come Tuesday morning?
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>>340123889

he's just a rogue, just as paplymo is a thaumaturge, yda is a pugilist, etc

y'shtola seems to be some sort of super white mage now though
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>>340122273
I STRONGLY recommend doing the main quest ASAP, since people love shouting spoilers a few hours after it's released. After that i would recommend doing Weeping City since learning raid mechanics right after the patch hits is a lot of fun.
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>>340124123
I had a house once, I sold it off in a week because there wasn't anything interesting to do with a personal house and it was actually right by our FC house so people were actually there to see it. Housing was a mistake.
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I just wish Estinien wouldn't die so we wouldn't lose the only DRG character the game has.
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Just started on Lev and the first thing that happens is that i meet a friend, having fun with this tbqh. Can't say the same when i tried other MMO's like wildstar
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Is Alisaie ever going to be relevant?
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>>340124414
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>finished HW
>started DRG quests
>Estinien shows up
i guess WoL can time travel too
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>>340124482
She showed up at the end of 3.1 questline spying on Urianger and Elidibus consorting in the Gubal Library. Since then not a word, although they said she'll be coming back the last PLL, just didn't specify when. I imagine she'll be a part of whatever's cooking for the next story arc.

Also shitter who hasn't done Coil detected
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>>340124539
Techincally, yes, the echo lets you do that.
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>>340124534
Well i meant relevant characters. As in, recurring main quest characters. We have pretty much all classes except for DRG now that Estinien is a double nidhogg
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>>340124534
She drank the dragon jew.
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>>340124482
something is cooking up with that, they showed her listening to that traitorous cunt of a sion talking with that bad dude at the library
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>>340124534
Ewww, she was gang raped by heretics. I have no use for used goods.
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>>340124769
>Heustienne was figuratively raped.
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>>340124641
>hasn't done Coil
I'm sure someday I'll have the patience to wait two hours in DF but for me and others like me it's a case of way too late to the party.
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>>340108143
I want Estinien to die because I think it'd be interesting for the next batch of DRG job quests to have to find the next Azure Dragoon
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>>340124641
>>340124797
Speaking of Urianger being a traitorous shitter, i bet he's getting coerced by the bad guys because they said they have some sort of way to revive Moonbryda. Then again i don't see how him betraying you would work since he gives you most EX primal quests and is involved in the Warring Triad.
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>>340110216
>killing off the only non piece of shit Lalafell in the game

they wouldnt fucking dare
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>>340124964
What do you mean the next? You are an Azure Dragoon. If you did the DRG quests prior to HW they even go to the trouble of changing some of the dialogue to say "hey there's actually two Azure Dragoons!"
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>>340111731
4.0 will bring red mage (DPS) and samurai(TANK)confirmed, and obviously some sort of healer
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>>340124969
The betrayal reveal, then the reveal that the Ascians were using him, will get tied up in one series of cutscenes, and your relationship will be tidy all over again and he can sit in the Waking Sands for eternity.
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>>340108948
>It's Aymeric that's going to die.

what if they die together
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>>340124964
>that guy in Camp Dragonhead that was Estinien's foster dad/mentor will never be reconciled with him
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>We anticipate that access will be congested immediately after the maintenance
You don't say
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>>340125168
I wish they would have the balls to actually make something interesting, I fucking hate urianger and actually wish he would be a legit traitor, but he probably will double cross the bad guys and everything will be ok, fucking pussies
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I just realized that we still didn't get a dramatic helmetless Estinien reveal. If Ayymeric dies i can see him taking of his helmet and placing it on top of his body or something.
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>Fall in love with hot human chick
>no conceivable way for me to fuck her without breaking her
>Just eat her instead

such is life as a wise old dragon
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>>340125049
>only
eat shit
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>>340123495
all scions have super duper magic skillz
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>>340125365

ooo there's a twist. Shiva is an Ascian
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>>340125365
>Just eat her instead

Fucking dragon logic.
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>>340125196
>“What’s the relationship between Aymeric and Lucia? Lucia has feelings for Aymeric. Aymeric on the other hand never notices that and doesn’t seem to show much interest.”
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>>340125062
They had to retcon a lot of shit with DRGs for this expansion. Dragoons went from these mythical ishgard fighting force to slightly more efficient peasants fighting against Dragons
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>>340125321
They could just replace him with someone else in TWS. They could rewrite the EX Primal dialogue, it's not like it's hard to write someone saying "oh shit garuda's back, go do everything."
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>>340125365
>Eat my human waifu because we are too different
>Even though humans can transform into dragons by drinking their blood
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>>340125062
sure, but the next actual Ishgardian Azure Dragoon who gets the Eye of Nidhogg. WoL is a special case. He's not actually an AD they just call him one because he's just as powerful as Estinien.
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>>340125365
You are now remembering manually that Hraesvelgar eating Shiva was SHIVA'S idea and she had to talk him into it.

Shiva was a vore fetishist and died living the dream.
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>>340125321
But the thing is, Elidibus is kind of an enigma.

He's an Ascian, but isn't exactly working with Organization XIV. he's shown to be perfectly reasonable at times, having polite conversations with Minfilia and the WoL.

He has his own intentions and may or may not actually be a bad guy.

Reminder that Elidibus is the only ascian that isn't named after a scion of light from XII. Instead, he's the Lucavi for Serpentarius/Ophiuchus (Zodiark) from Tactics
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>>340125631
Pretty sure we're going to destroy both eyes so that problem will be solved. Or the WoL will keep one to kill Ascians with.
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>>340125240
I hope he comes back to talk Estinien out of his DRINK DEEP OF MY RAGE form like my shounen animes
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This seems like the most desirable spot
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>>340125715
That reminds me, who gave the Ishgardians the idea to rip out a dragon's eyes and eat them?

Did they come to that conclusion themselves, or were the Ascians behind 9/11
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>>340111015
>your character is the mary sue of light
Really? I had no idea a character I made and am supposed to roleplay is a Mary-sue
>there has been a war for a long time for Dragons vs ishengardians
Ishgardians*
>dragons were actually betrayed and everything is a lie protected by the holy church "plot twist" the human are the real monsters

I didn't know elves were humans
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>>340125872

well we're still short a few great wyrms. Bahamut, Tiamat, Hraesvelgr, Nidhogg, Ratatoskr all accounted for. 2 more are missing
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Got a refund on overwatch, should I resub or what? I've got nothing to play.
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>>340125872
I mean, the game's plot up till this point is basically "ASCIANS DID IT" so idk
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>>340125995
>Got a refund on overwatch
You disgust me
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>>340115075
>But I can't get in, so what's the best option.
Yes you can get in, create a character during off peak times, like right after a patch, or really early in the morning
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>>340125872
>who gave the Ishgardians the idea to rip out a dragon's eyes and eat them?

Well, they lived together with the dragons and the dragons you speak to in the story tell you that the source of a dragon's power lies in their eyes so they probably just heard about it from a dragon and put two and two together.

>tfw the storyline outright tells you dragons are from space
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>>340125961
Shinryu will be one. Maybe Fafnir for the other.
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I just wish the playerbase would stop fucking dying off, if I didn't have to wait 5-30 minutes for it to match me with someone else who wants to do ANY piece of fucking content in this game, it would be a pretty decent game, but as is I can't fucking do anything without ridiculous wait times. Forget about even trying pvp. I'm one of the few people who actually like doing pvp but fuck waiting 50+ minutes for a single fucking match
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>>340126240

isn't Shinryu a super dimensional dragon? I'd just assume that Shinryu is Midgardsormr's real name
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>>340125961
Considering they used Norse mythology names that have nothing to do with dragons then it wouldn't surprise me if they used a couple more.

Nidhogg is the great serpent below Yggdrasil and is sometimes drawn as a dragon.

Ratatoskr is a fucking squirrel but they named a dragon that.

Hraesvelgr is the great eagle atop Yggdrasil.

So yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the last 2 dragons were Yggdrasil and one of the deer (like Dvalinn)
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any 4ch guilds on balmung or gilgamesh?
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>>340126081
Really fun for 3 days until you realize you'll never be good enough to be pro when a competitive mode is released.
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>>340126457
>any 4ch guilds on balmung or gilgamesh?

None that aren't a gathering of fucking degenerates who want to pretend to be little girls while RPing sucking on dicks.
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>>340126457
Ultros was where the main 4chan guild was I think.
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>>340126457
kill urself my man.
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>>340111371
Her coat is going to become iconic in time and a premium cash shop item. I think she'll die eventually, so that they can sell it, but its too soon right now. I don't think she's even a major player in this patch, since she's more heavily involved in the Warring Triad subplot which is in intermission during 3.3, than the main story.
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>>340125818
28, 29, and 30 are really great with the waterfall right behind it
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>>340124950
You could literally not watch a video, create a party finder, and have people join for the free and easy poetics, shit it's like 1300 for a carry and shouldn't take longer than an hour.
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>>340126916
Marketboard is too far
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>>340126903
She's a character introduced sometime later in the story and she's Minfilia's best friend.

So of course she's going to die, probably to bring back that slut.
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>>340108143
I hope not. The fact that all the people who went missing or died in 2.55 save Minfillia are fine still pisses me off.
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>>340110695
>>340125959

Remember that you can go back and watch all the cutscenes in an inn room. You'll miss some quest dialogue, but everything important should be there.
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So, will Heavensward go free after the next Xpack comes out? I'm not familiar with how MMOs work in that regard
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>>340127141
You seriously thought the scions were going to stay 'dead' offscreen?

I mean the nice thing about bringing them back is that they actually become relevant and got nice outfits. 2.0 was done on the assumption anyone actually played 1.0

I didn't care for Y'shtola prior to 3.0
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>>340126696
but ultros is dead as shit I need to find a more populated server man
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>>340127289
I thought at least one of them would. I guess Minfillia counts.

I'm more pissed about Nanamo.
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>LGBT-friendly FC
What
Why
How does this even work
What does this even matter
Do they just spam "Im gay" in chat all day and pat themselves on the back?
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>>340126317
What? I actually grinded pvp this whole weekends for 3 full sets of 180 gear, hell even crystal tower doesn't take me more than 20 mins in queue as a DPS
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>>340127289
>spats and thigh high boots.
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>>340127432
pretty much

I got invited and joined one for a friend at one point and it was just 100% drama and circlejerking the FC leader
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>>340127473
Cats are not for sexual.
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>>340124641
>Did you just hear some weird squeaking noise like someone wearing weird rocket plateau boots is eavesdropping on us?
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>>340127318
I play on Ultros and it seems pretty populated to me. Do you expect great throngs of people and huge party finder lists at 3am?
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>>340127536
What?

Cats are for nothing BUT sexual.
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>>340125130
I'm actually really worried about new jobs.

Based on tidbits of information they've said since the last expansion:

>Designing three jobs at once is too hard so we won't do that anymore
>Dropping a new job in the middle of a regular patch cycle is too hard so we won't do that anymore
>Designing branching jobs like SCH/SMN is too hard to balance so we won't do that anymore

I think at the absolute least one of the roles is getting screwed over next patch. It won't be DPS because that's consistently the most popular. It won't be tank because tank is the least played and new tanking classes pad out numbers.

Unless Red Mage is is real and truly able to break the trinity, functioning as both a damage dealer and healer equally which I don't think they're competent enough to pull off, I really think they might skip a new healing class next expansion.
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>>340124641
I hope Alisae gets a costume that makes her stand out from Alphinaud
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>>340127614
I expect normal levelling dungeons to not have 20 minute q's at 7pm on a saturday, is that too much to ask
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>>340127673
>Designing three jobs at once is too hard so we won't do that anymore

Did they say that?

After NIN they said they weren't going to add classes between expansion.
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>>340127673
don't forget

>support role would be a good idea but I don't want people to feel bad about being retarded so it probably won't happen
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>>340115696

Where? Behind the potato?
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>>340127729
That's what you get for playing DPS.
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>>340125818
Man I have no fucking clue where my fc house is. Based on the map it should be 28 but I don't recall there being so much water over there.
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>>340127797

you'd have to change the entire dynamic of parties to make a pure support viable

also as someone who's always preferred support-hybrids, pure supporters are leeches who want to be patted on the back for essentially being a buff bot. even worse than Sylviehealers
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>>340109762
I don't think Aymeric will be killed off there's also the whole subplot of Lucia who is obviously in love with him.
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>>340127673
This game has so much potential for a lot of FF jobs people have always wanted to be, but the dev's are monster pussies about balancing and developing so we don't have to worry about anything about that.
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>>340127920
You're probably in a subdivision. Those maps get flip or turned 90 degrees and the plot numbers start at 31.
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>>340127797
Why do people want supports so badly?
A deep-seated fear of being called out for not pulling their own weight and playing support gives them an excuse to blame the rest of the group?
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>>340127432

I once had a stupid argument with some faggot about whether Yuri is a category of porn.
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>>340128074
I'd only like support because it would open up more job options without being homogenized.
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>>340127673
You can't make an effective hybrid class in a game where a specific party composition is necessary and enforced. If they are really half/half "jack of all trades", then no one will bring them because they are just watered down versions of things other classes do better. If you let them specialize into one or the other, then it's the same as just having two different classes.

There's only so many ways to make a class about playing whack a mole with health bars.

>>340127797
What would a support role do that other classes don't do already?
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>>340128221
Is it?
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>>340108143
>maintenance for an entire day
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>>340128245
Even on the chance they did add a support role, they would have to be able to deal damage anyway so they can do solo content, which would carry over into dungeons. Essentially they would just be another DPS with more buffs/debuffs than others.
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>>340128426

so like a bard?
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>>340125454

Well yeah but so does like the entire landmass of Eorzea.
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>>340128426
They could just be on the level of bard, having garbage DPS in comparison to other DPS but still enough DPS to matter.

And then shove Bard to Support
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>>340128073
Nah it was 28, I had to check. Never realized the bridge to it is angled to the side and it's surrounded by cliffs with water way down below.
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>>340128342

Yes, just like 'nekomimi' is a category of porn.
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>>340128515
I sure love getting dual bards/mch's in dungeons. Sure would be fun with yet another class that's only really useful for 8 man content.
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>>340119378
>Minfillia returns
>Pray speak with me at the waking sands
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>>340128670
but MCH can actually do a shitload of damage now. They make BRD look like shit.
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>>340128709

It will be
>Mor Dhona
>Bar area
>Solar
>portal to Hydaelin's realm
>Activate stone to materialize Minfillia.
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How will the new houses work? Are they adding more sub wards?
Will I have to log in the moment the servers pop up just to have a tiny shot at buying one?
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>series with 90% fucking awful stories
>mash all the worst elements together and put it in your MMO
>there are still people who actually find a way to care about the plot

Unless you're underage you have literally no excuse.
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>>340128835

why in the fuck is the Solar its own zone?
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>>340128848
I think so
& yes

hope you like getting up at 3 AM PST
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>>340128670

Hey c'mon bards can do plenty of damage, senpai.
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>>340128778
Something I learned from recently leveling brd and mch is that any remotely decent player will destroy your average shitter regardless of what job you use.
Unfortunately most of the time you get shit players and at 60 when gear offsets their lower dps you barely ever see one.
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>>340115471
I was actually pretty excited to see her for the first time. They teased her so many times up until she finally appeared.
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>>340127729
I thought DF was across multiple servers, not just the one you're on.
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>>340128974
More concerned with all the deaths.
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>>340128992
The thing is MCH will do better damage AND better support

while the BRD will refuse to do their one job
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>>340128974

the wipe was to what, the tank pulling too much or the first boss?
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>>340116261
Just like stuffing a turkey.
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>>340128974
>Duration 23min
Shitters and fuckups
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>>340124203
It's kind of weird, since Y'shtola's signature move is Collective Unconscious, an AST skill.
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>>340129228
Oh yeah, I have no idea why there are so many Bards that don't even play foe's before boss pulls.
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>>340129176

They didn't DPS the orb down during winged lion, instead focusing on the 2 adds that show up.

I forget why the summoner died a second time.
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>>340129096
my entire dataserver is dying man
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>>340112926
>Aymeric

Please no. The Elezen are a lame race but but the folks from Ishgard have treated you the best, I don't want to lose another one. besides, who would be the next Ishgardian figurehead if he dies?

>Estinien

I dont exactly want to see him die, but he brought this on himself and I'll be pissed if he takes Aymeric with him.
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What's the best strategy of getting a house when the servers come up? Like is there any specific place I should log before the patch?
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>>340129282

No it was because of >>340129392 which was a bit of a surprise since they seemed to know mechanics.
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>>340108143
>killing off the best-voiced character
I certainly hope not.
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>Actually prepared for once and bought as many Shiva tears and Levin orbs as I could plus some chili peppers or whatever.
>Mfw something will go horribly wrong and I've wasted a bunch of millions on nothing.
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>>340129765

its pretty sound. but you will have to sell those things before the casuals log on after work or the price will plummet. don't get greedy with 2 million gil pricetags. selling 5 for 1m is much better
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>>340129658

Log out near one of the ward-selection areas, obviously.

And not in a city.
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where are ya'll logging out?

cant decide if I want to do the new beast tribe first or get started on the MSQ so I can do nidhogg EX asap before all the decent players clear and I'm left with shitters
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>>340125818
I think I ended up with a fairly good location, close to the market board.
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>>340129619
>besides, who would be the next Ishgardian figurehead if he dies?
I dunno, maybe the badass warrior chick who's been literally at his side the entire time?

Still, it'll be lame if we lose him. Especially after that really awkward, out of nowhere assassination attempt that was handwaved almost instantly and meant practically nothing.
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>>340129919

he'll get injured again but not die. sorta his thing
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>>340129765
Thanks for the tip :^)
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>>340129919
I don't think Ishgard would let themselves be ruled by a moderately ranking former Garlean spy
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>>340129619
Emmanellain of course.
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>>340130116
Shit, I'd totally forgotten she was a Garlean.

Does all of Ishgard know that, though?
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>>340129889
>quit like a week into 3.2
>wont have the ilvl for early clear parties
>will be stuck in shitter hell forever
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>>340130326

Better shell out a few million for crafted 220 gear senpai :^)
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What's the best small house locations in Mist?
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>>340130326
>wont have the ilvl for early clear parties

Nidhogg EX is going to be ilvl 220 to enter, so who gives a shit.

the weapons are probably only going to be 135 anyways and people are only going to be doing it for this thing
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>>340130326
Farm unlocked Midas, do one 24 man, get your weekly tomes piece, you're done.
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>>340109762
Wait who said that? It's been a while
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>>340130569
>Nidhogg EX is going to be ilvl 220 to enter
I'm i216. Goddamn it. Maybe if I cap tomes and get a 230 piece from the new welfare dungeon.
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>>340130846
>Wait who said that? It's been a while

Haurchefant then Aymeric
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>>340130861
>I'm i216.
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>>340130861
you can also get a piece from City of Mhach raid while also getting the Mhachi farthing once a week, which I assume is upgraded to turn in for Illuminati Gobparts to upgrade Lore gear to 240
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>>340131001
>Haurchefant will never cheer us up with hot cocoa again
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>>340130861
>tfw I only just got to 205 tonight by blowing all my eso on caster gear
>tfw won't be able to play nignog with FC until everyone's already done the fuck out of it
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How long before maintenance? Can I get a roulette in?
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>>340131076
I should've just stayed unsubbed
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