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I'm considering re subbing to FF.
Stopped playing shortly after heavensward
Should I do it?
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>>340105726
do it
re-sub me on the way too
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>>340105726
Have they done anything to address why you left in the first place? If so, go for it, if not then pass. Are you invested in the characters and story? If so then resub and get caught up, otherwise pass.
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do it, catch up with what time you have for the next patch, you've only got a few hours
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>>340106194
I don't know. I'm actually just lonely and am hoping to meet some people to play with
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Well there's a quarterly catch-up patch dropping in about 24 hours so now would be a perfect time to do so.
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>>340105726
Wait until Tuesday to sub, servers are down all tomorrow to apply the patch
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>>340106331
>I'm actually just lonely

Take your ass to /vg/ please.
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>>340106331
Then by all means go for it, just stay away from the /vg/ FCs and cliques.
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>>340106358
How many times have you posted this picture today?
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>>340106331
Go to Idyllshire and join whatever guild you see on chat that's recruiting. Just make sure they aren't multilingual (especially french).
If they end up being a bunch of shitters who don't even clear content then you can always leave and try again.
I personally found myself a sweet guild with a mansion in Limsa Lominsa this way.
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>>340105726
3.3 looks promising. New dungeon, new 24-man raid, beast tribes, relic continuation. I'm probably missing a few things.
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>>340106331

>MMO
>playing with people
Unless you consider mindless raiding and having people scream at you for not DPSing 'correctly' as being human contact, then FFXIV doesn't have any. Its still essentially a single player game with the option to join a free company.
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>>340106545
not that kind of lonely, the literally no fiends kind
>>340106589
i've never been to /vg/ anyways, but thanks for the advice. Go figure people from 4chan would be POSs
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>MFW I resubbed earlier today

I don't know why I keep coming back.
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>>340106358
I'm so tempted to make a dragon healslut.
That or a potato tank.
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>Play game
>Laugh at my potato summoner
>Actually start to meet a few random faggots in cities
>Start making money
>Buy a house
>Meet neighbours

Game was comfy, shame there's not enough content and weekly quotas aren't the thing for me.
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>>340106331
What server are you on? I moved servers due to having the same problem and am having more fun because of it.
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>>340106770
I fucking hate this game yet I keep coming back and whenever I do I end up play three days in a row sometimes.

I hate my life.
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>>340107027
Lamia, apparently
I also have a level 50 monk that has quest gear on some other server, but I don't recall what server.
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I own a PSQuad now and this game has long been on my radar. As someone who has never really played an MMO, is this worth a look?
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>>340107309
I'd recommend transferring to a more popular server, it's much easier to meet people on them. MMOs just aren't worth playing without other people around.
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>>340106997
Game has enough midgets messing up my positional.
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>>340107524
what server(s) would you recommend?
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>>340107457
Give the trial a shot. You get to go more than halfway to the level cap, and you get an idea for how jobs actually play.
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>resub
>have this crazy notion that I want to heal
>start leveling Conjurer
>leveling through dungeons
>level 28 and bored out of my fucking mind

This happens every time I try to heal in an MMO
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>>340107673
What I generally hear is,

Gilgamesh or Balmung if you want the absolute highest population and can deal with some cancer

Leviathan or Behemoth if you want a highly populated server with slightly less cancer.
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>>340107457
14 days trial.
It's kind of shitty since you can only reach 20 and at that level you use 3 skills at best though.
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>>340108053
Apparently 3.3 is upgrading the trial to level 35.
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>>340107673
Balmung if you are a degenerate, Gilgamesh if you are a redditor.
Ultros or Leviathan if you are fairly normal.
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>>340107673
I just moved to Balmung personally, though I've been avoiding the /vg/ crowd. It's got a real MMO vibe to it what with all the people speaking in public. The stipulation being that it is the unofficial RP server. I've never really had it forced on me.
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>>340108037
You have to be up very early in the morning to get into Gilgamesh. I've been trying to get in there for months but just decided it wasn't worth it and stayed in Famfrit.
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>>340105726
Nothing's really changed.

Nor will it ever. The reasons you quit are still there.

There is no change possible in this system, but that of numbers increasing.
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>>340108037
>>340108146
>>340108168
Balamung or Lev seems good to me, then.
I don't really RP but I don't mind it
Thanks.
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>>340105726
Nah, go play Eve Online instead, it's much better.
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>>340107917
CNJ is the most boring leveling experience out of all of the jobs, no contest.

Try SCH instead. You have to get ACN up to 30 to do it, but it's worth it.

>>340108053
3.3 lets you go up to level 35, at that point you can get your job crystals.
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>>340108435
I'm going to switch to Astrologian when I get WM to 34
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>>340106997
Make a dragonslut.
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>>340108571
Whm master race is much better.
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>>340108309
I play both anon. they are so different that they don't really compete with each-other for my playing time.
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If I've been unsubscribed since 3.1 what should I do first?
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>Tfw I will never get gud at Monk
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>>340109257
Unsub
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Is the community still toxic when it comes to end game EX trials and raids? I'm probably never going back.
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>>340105726
Do you like to lewd?
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>>340109257
Stay unsubbed.
>>340109291
Hit things on back.
Hit things on the side.
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>>340106752
Hey i might be looking for someone else to play this game with. Not a fag or an erp retard.

What server were you on and what level range?
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>>340106147

Not him but If I'm interested in gifting a sub to a friend how would I go about it
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>>340109714
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>>340109925
see
>>340107309
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/8006549/
is my character
if i do end up changing servers, does anyone know how much it is?
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>>340109951
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>>340110079
10$ for server change afaik
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>>340110079
Look on mogstation, it should be around $14 or 24.
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>>340109763
>Hit things on back
>Press wrong button and fuck up rotation
>Hit things on the side
>Tank moves enemy before attack hits so I miss my positional
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no. fuck off shill
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>>340108285

Can confirm. As long as you're not sticking around in one place for too long like the Quicksand you won't be bothered and even then..

For some reason, dudes can tell when you're there to quest/level and it's probably in the clothes somewhere. They don't fuck with you unless you fuck with them first.
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Does anyone here like elezen...?
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>cant remember my squeenix ID
>go to check it
>sends me to password recovery
>get password changed
>still no fucking clue what my id is
Help
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>>340110079

Eighteen dollary doos. If you got more than one character then make sure you know who it is so you don't have to spend another eighteen just to get that other character.

One payment gets as many characters as you can carry as long as they are three days old at the least.
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I quit playing a few months ago. The game is pretty stale and even the new content is nothing special, I doubt I will ever re-sub again.
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>could just barely afford to move from Ul'dah pleb housing to Gridania comfy housing after patch
>logical part of me says this is a stupid fucking idea because I could lose everything, and have to hire an extra retainer to even do it
I guess I could try to get someone to pay for my current plot but I have no idea how I'd do that at this point.
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Can't wait for my server to feel alive for one week then go back to being dead
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>>340110079
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2799413/
Here's my character. i'd resub if i had one or two other people to play with but i'm far from end game. Only really interested in playing WHM though.
Here's my steam if anyone's interested
http://steamcommunity.com/id/2008879
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>>340109763
Are you the Mylen Ploa I see in Limsa a lot? Thats a rare name.
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>>340110828
This basically.

Unless you're mentally ill and enjoy only RPing then it gets boring.

Will say I actually had fun leveling and doing what content they did have with people I met on there. The class changing system is great. Housing and Guild housing is also neat.

But the weekly lockouts and pattern bosses just got really annoying. If they didn't have lockouts people would be max geared in a day there is so little content it felt like.

Not to mention the PvP is non-existent, and when a queue does pop it's pretty terrible.
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No. The community is shit and the devs don't listen to the players. There is no real endgame and everything is just an endless world boss and fate grind.
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I keep getting bored with it but every now and again I go back for catboys.
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>>340111356

FFXIV is a great single player game. I'd even go as far to say its the best main series FF game in 15 years.

But as a multiplayer game, it suffers the same fate as all WoW clones. Shitty gear ladders and raiding. With no actual human interaction besides 'heal plz' and 'attack my mark'.

I quit the game 20 days after it launched. Then was suckered into coming back for Heavensward, only to quit before even finishing all the quests. No idea why anyone is playing anymore to be honest.
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This game would be 100000x better if they would let you fucking redo story quests for every class you level up.

Having to level up through dungeons and fate grinding for secondary classes is the fucking worst.
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>Sephirot 'farm' parties
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Tempted to go back to FFXIV, but is Tree of Saviour any good? That's F2P now
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>>340112108

Combat is good. But the quests and EXP cards kill it.
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>>340112108
it runs like complete trash no matter how good your computer is
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>>340111850

Thinking about it that would be the tits. I mean, are you eating though? Are you putting on the ring after level fifteen?

The trick is also to do the duty roulettes because while I don't know how it goes NOW that the level cap is 60, I do understand you're supposed to get fifty percent experience for your secondary classes.

Even then? You get an armory bonus depending on how far away your secondary class is away from your highest leveled class.

There's ways to make the pain less so. If you got alts like me, it's easy to work on something else and then go back to that character and duty roulette for your daily rewards.
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>>340112783
Boost leve exp, problem solved.
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>have a sub that expired
>cant play the free trial part of the game on an alta indefinitely and join the same free company that my main character is in to talk to my friends
>cant buy gametime with gold
>cant rename my pets
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>>340109937
Easiest way would probably be to pick up one of those prepaid cards and give it to them
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>>340107917
i love playing heal in ff14 actually. playing dps was much worse in the boredom department
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>>340111726
Some people enjoy MMO treadmills like that.
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>>340107917
If you want more to do then you should have gone SCH. Hell you could have even gone AST to depend on the Heart of the Cards. I gotta say, I'm leveling up my SCH and it's pretty fun though I'm not looking forward to the micromanaging I'll have to do with my fairy later on during harder content. Looks like we should switch places.
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>>340113383
fairy heals by itself even on obey, you just have to manage its minute long cooldowns or micro the heals in specific cases, put on cleric stance and DPS and micro the fairy while casting ruin and you're set
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>>340106672
Fat loots from treasure map bonus rounds
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>>340111126
Marry me
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I can't git gud at healing. Feels like you can't play the class without macroing like every second skill. Or at the very least all your damage dealing spells. And I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or if its a connection thing, but my experience with macros in this game have me having to press the skill multiple times to get it to work.
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I dont wanna sound like a poorfag (even tough I am), but does anybody has a spare time card?, i wanna get back into the game so bad
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>>340113383
I'm only going to level 34 with WHM then switching to AST.
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>>340113150

True. But the issue with all these WoW clones is that the people who like those just end up going back to WoW.

MMO developers need to realize that you won't kill WoW by copying it. You need to make an MMO that focuses on everything that WoW doesn't. To capture that huge chunk of people who want to play an MMO, but are tired or WoW raiding/gear treadmills.
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I really liked healing in XIV as WHM and SCH. Are there any other MMOs that are similar?
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>>340113543

Noted, thank you.
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>>340113671

Babysit me!
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>>340113950
there's a pretty good guide on the forums listing a bunch of macros for the fairy and creative targeting to make dps and healing easier, google how to train your faerie for it
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who Siren here?
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>>340114324
>Siren, Shiva, Garuda,etc all have big titties and/or butt
>playable races are lightning tier
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>>340114575

what do you think the crystals are for?
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>>340107006

I haven't been on in like 2 or 3 weeks. I use to love this game but I got so burned out recently.
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What's the word on cactaur server, I can't get a straight answer from the people there about its population and what the community is generally like
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>>340113836
Not the guy you were replying to, but I agree with this.

I really enjoy XIV for what it is, but that's mainly because there isn't anything more interesting out there.

When franchises like WoW get as big and genre-defining as they are, they'll never be "killed" by anything else. They'll exist for a long time, and eventually only kill themselves.

Which WoW is doing. XIV has a lot of WoWfugees.
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>tfw don't know what furniture to put in my mansion

why is designing homes so hard
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>Tfw this game will never again be as good as the first half of 2.0's lifetime

Heavensward was been a piece of shit all the way through. Hopefully 4.0 will fix it but I doubt it.

Now I know how vanilla wowfags feel
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>>340105726
I played this for a bit on a free weekend but lost interest, now I hear Triple Triad is in it and I used to love playing TT on a forum back in the day. Is TT rewarding at all for you or your FC in this game or is it just a side game?
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>>340116489
>is TT rewarding at all

lol

loooooooooooooool
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>>340116489

pretty much a side game, but you can earn stuff from the gold saucer with it, though there's more efficient ways of getting gold saucer points now
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Is it known what the patch notes for 3.3 meant by

>Adjusted aether current locations

I've only just begun the Heavensward content, and I rather enjoy the silly hide-and-seek of finding the aether currents in the world. It would be a shame if they became trivial to reach.
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>>340115782
I don't believe that.
I maintain there's a market for a well-supported MMO with consistent, short, content-dense patches.

Remember how busy Mor Dhona used to get in 2.1/2.2? It's busier than Idyllshire has ever been that's for sure.
If they hired on a shitload more staff and had different teams constantly churning out new stuff this game could have easily killed WoW. SE failed by using it as a mere cashcow to fund XV and VII:Re, blissfully unaware they'd make more money in a year with 2 million XIV subs than they would selling XV at retail.
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>>340116729
>>340116732
OK thanks for the heads up, won't waste money on it then.
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>>340116832

>mfw XV fails and they'll be forced to pour more money into XIV
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>>340116786
Guessing that they're more visible or something.
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Hildibrand better be longer this time.
Though I actually enjoy the School stuff more.
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>>340113671
Why do you say that?
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>>340116786
A lot of people think otherwise.
It's easiest to just /shout in the zone, "hey faggots if anyone here has a two-seater flying mount I'll give you X Gil to ferry me to the aether currents".
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>>340116832
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but
>If they hired on a shitload more staff and had different teams constantly churning out new stuff
I feel like this is a bit harder than most people think. XIV gets content every 3-4 months. While that does leave a lot of space for drought, it's a lot easier said than done to, say, cut that in half and pump out 2 dungeons, a trial, new kinds of content, more quests, more MSQ, and a big raid on top of shitloads of smaller changes every month or two.

That being said, the content XIV is currently getting is not being managed well (diadem, lords of verminion), and the current modus operandi of "get better stuff by doing old irrelevant content a bajillion times" is not working well for player retention.
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>>340116786
It was pretty bullshit that some of the currents were hidden several sidequests deep into a totally one-off chain of sidequests that you were never told could possibly have led to it.
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>>340118090
Obviously you can't just throw more people at a problem unless that problem is how to best start an orgy.

A large component of XIVs current issues is the failure to innovate and a general lack of direction. Yoshida is a man clearly promoted beyond his abilities and the game is flailing under him because he has no idea what to do with it within the scope of his limitations (ie. Staff)
Verminion was just a bad joke taken too far and released at the worst possible time, but Diadem and PvP stand as testament to that ineptitude.

Yoshi is an oaf and the dev team is critically understaffed.
Until these things are remedied nothing is going to change, least of all the relic because that's the only way they know how to get people to run obsolete content.
The solution is horizontal progression which they might be trialling with Palace of the Dead but I guess we'll see what happens with that- if it's the remedy this game needs or just another of Yoshi's boobish blunders.
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Which server should I be on if I'm US east coast (more or less)?

I followed a friend into the server he chose, and he chose extremely poorly. I get something like 500 sending/1k receiving to it, which made the MSQ-required Titan Hard fight much harder than it needed to be.
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>>340119058
Staff isn't so much of a problem as you imply it is. If they're still able to push out as much content as they are as often as they are, then the problem isn't it in the staffing. The problem is in the lack of innovation and the misuse of content. They don't seem to have any idea how to inject any form of meaningful longevity into the content they introduce and THAT is one of the largest issues with the game.
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>>340116832

>I maintain there's a market for a well-supported MMO with consistent, short, content-dense patches.
>Remember how busy Mor Dhona used to get in 2.1/2.2?
>used to get
You just described the exact reason content driven MMOs don't work. People jump on, rush through all the content (which takes 1-3 weeks), then quit.

While back in the early MMO days with games like UO, RO and SWG, people would spend literally years running around barren areas. But because the game didn't have set content and quests, people were more inclined to talk to other people and find something to do. Do more PvP, search for items that took more effort than 'complete dungeon three times', etc.

Someone basically needs to make an MMO which has the open ended world to explore and user generated content like the old days, but with the improved graphics and combat of newer MMOs. So sad because Tree of Saviour could have been this with its Diablo style combat. But it caved under the pressure and went for set quests and locations.
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>>340111984
>Sephirot 'farm' parties
For what it's worth the fight isn't very good. I like the aesthetics and SAY MY NAME, but unlike Thordan, it's almost impossible to recover from any mistakes and even as a party of veteran raiders we ended up wiping a few times to stupid shit when somebody didn't pay attention. It's kinda silly. Yoshi-hack said Thordan was an oddity in the difficulty department but then they roll out this T13-tier encounter. I don't hate it, but it's extremely annoying to farm.
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>>340119347
I use pingzapper to fix some ms issues and it works like a charm, helped me deal with a lot of issues being caused by lag, not just the move-out-of-aoe mechanics.
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>>340119058
I like Verminion, though
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>>340119058
I completely agree. I think not much will change for the rest of the 3.x patch cycle, but 4.0 will really showcase whether or not Yoshi actually wants to turn the game around, or whether he's content just making it an infinite gear treadmill with fanservice out the ass.
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>>340119796
And that's fine, they clearly put a lot of effort into Verminion.
The problem is that effort would have been much better spent elsewhere.

>>340119787
I still need to learn SephEx to get a weapon to challenge double Nidhogg EX.
How difficult is it to learn for a healer?
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>>340110724
i do i play as one normally but they look kind of goofy when you're playing nin
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>>340119951

thing is given how far ahead they plan this stuff, his predecessor included, we may just now be getting to the content yoshida created or approved

granted implementation could have been better for many things. Diadem remains this day the shining shit jewel in the crap diadem of wasted potential
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>always on the lookout for XIV porn
>all I find is disgusting western shit
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>>340120003
>How difficult is it to learn for a healer?
There are these adds called Binas that when killed, do raid wide 3000 damage

In the 2nd phase they'll spawn in waves of 3, with an add called a cochma that does 10k damage when it is killed.

In the last phase, 4 binas will spawn while the boss is doing a 10k damage raid aoe, then both tanks have to soak a tankbuster each, which the have to be holding the binas through. You have to kill the binas before the boss does another 10k raid aoe

Have fun.
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>>340113836
not him but i haven't played wow in 4 years until blizz gave everyone WoD and some game time recently, honestly i think im more happy with ff than i am with wow even though ff does have it's fair share of problems
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>>340120003
>How difficult is it to learn for a healer?
It's not really more difficult than any other raid-level fight, you just need to learn the script. There's much less tank damage than usual and a lot of raid-wide damage you have to be prepared for instead, then phase 3 alternates between fuckall and oh god why did people take cumulative 30k damage each in 5 seconds.
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>>340120312
This. There is nothing on sadpanda besides western shit. How does that happen?
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>>340120312
what anime is that?
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so i just got sch to 60 and im trying to learn smn now can anyone give me some tips on the rotation and what cross class stuff i should be using?
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>>340120421
>All that AoE
Time for lightspeed Helios spam.

Thanks.
Also I'm only i188 so I'll have to blow like 2 mil on crafted gear to hit the minimum threshold.
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>>340120803
Girls und Panzer.
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>>340120312

People in Japan are too busy playing a better MMO and drawing Ogre porn. No really, DQX is doing way better than FFXIV in Japan. FFXIV is being kept alive by the western market.
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>>340120807
>rotation
>SMN

It doesn't work that way. SMN is entirely priority based.

100% uptime on dots (Bio, Miasma, Bio2) and shadow flare
If that's taken care of, you're spamming ruin and using your Aetherflow nukes.

Aethertrail is were the class gets hard. Your goal is to entire dreadwyrm trance with 3 aetherflow stacks, and cast at least 1 Fester during it's duration.

Since Aetherflow is on a 60 second CD and you can extent your aethertrail attument stacks up to 90 seconds idealy, you want to space out your 2nd and 3rd Aetherflow nuke so that you can hit Aetherflow, then enter trance.
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>>340120807

crossclass: raging strikes, quelling strikes, swiftcast

typical opener:

raging > Tridisaster > (click Contagion) Painflare > Fester > (contagion should have cast by now) Bane if aoe, Energy Drain if single target > Rouse/Spur/Enkindle > Dreadwyrm Trance > Ruin III until you have 3 seconds left > Deathflare > Spam Ruin 1 because you're worthless for 20 seconds
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>>340120312

Have you tried looking on Pixiv? There's not a lot of it, but there's definitely FFXIV porn. Especially of Lalafells and Catgirls.
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>>340121214

mostly male lalas
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>>340121008
> FFXIV is being kept alive by the western market.
This doesn't feel right. Japanese community seems far stronger from the unofficial census and online activity. I didn't have a chance to compare it to DQX, but it certainly can't be right that western XIV playerbase is bigger than the Japanese one.
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>>340120963
Is there a new GuP season? I don't remember this character.
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>>340121008
why the FUCK won't square bring DQX over

They've expressed interest as early as 2014

Is it doomed to the same fate as PSO2? I mean, we don't even have an unofficial English patch.
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Does the Duty Finder work across data centers?
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>>340121545
No. Each Data Center is isolated.
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>>340121545

no. thank god too. the language barrier was the absolute worst part of FFXI
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>>340121426
this is one of the things pc fags should be making a petition for i would love to play DQX
i just want SE to remember that the game has fans in the states in general
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>>340121178
>click
Realistically if you're playing a pet class at a high level you should hotbar your pet skills.

eg.
/micon "Summon II"
/ac "Summon II" <me>
/hotbar pet "Silent Dusk" "Selene" 3 2 <t>
/hotbar pet "Fey Wind" "Selene" 3 2
/hotbar pet "Fey Caress" "Selene" 3 3

^this sets shift+1,2,3 to each of Selene's skills upon summoning. I have a one for Eos too.
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>>340121401
Movie.
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>>340121708
Wait disregard that <t> not sure why that's there.
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>>340111126
I'm on balmung too, as long as you're not an ERP fag you can join my FC and chill with me and like 5 other bros who I met in game. It's a pretty small FC and we intend to keep it that way.
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>>340121740
You could post the whole scene :^)

https://my.mixtape.moe/xlvahk.webm
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>>340121708
im the guy he was replying too i have my pet skills set to R,T, and Y
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Can you transfer(for NEETbux) from one main server to another? Like from a server in primal to aether or vice versa? Wanna go to Lev really bad
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>>340119692
God I would love a modern game that game me the sense of open wonder that RO and DAOC did all those years ago.
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>>340122320
>Wanna go to Lev really bad

Why? Primal data center has some of the WORST players I've ever encountered. It's so bad.
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>>340122320
the paid server transfer lets you go from any server to any other server
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>>340122372
>fellow DAOC bro on /v/
jesus christ we're old m8
midgard represent
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>>340111126
im on balmung also though i believe im in one of the /vg/ thread guild off shoots though every one seems pretty nice,it's a little dead some days though
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>>340107618
Lizards are midgets, too.
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>>340121301

SquareEnix has never officially announced active subs. Within the first 3 months of ARR coming out, they touted that 2 million people were subbed. But of course, this doesn't take into account how many of them bought the game, then quit. People estimated anywhere from 450k-700k people remained after the first month.

Since then, we can only go by speculation and estimation from people outside of SquareEnix. As SquareEnix only announces how many people have ever had a sub, not how many are actively playing the game.

https://inanage.com/2015/12/17/ff14-subscription-number-speculation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/33cc1k/latest_lodestone_population_survey_730k_active/

The most notable number in there is that there's less than 150,000 players who have remained active since the game launched. That means of the 5 million people SquareEnix keeps touting have subbed to the game, not even 0.1% of them are veteran players. You can praise FFXIV for having a ridiculous number of new subs over time. But 99% or more of them eventually quit the game before a new patch or expansion.

On the other side, SquareEnix has been quite vocal about how Dragon Quest X remains at about 300,000 active players every month. Like clockwork. And that's for a game that's only available in Japan.
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>>340122490
Hibernia stronk
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Is excalibur a high pop server? I can never find it open for new characters
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>>340121214
Links tobeh senpai
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>>340122649
i really wish they would bring DQX over i hear people compare it too ff 11 which i loved for the short amount of time i got to play it

that being said i enjoy 14 too even though it's vastly different
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>>340122842
I'm on Excalibur. It's an active server but not a crowded clusterfuck like Gilgamesh
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>>340121426

A combination of SquareEnix bureaucracy and not wanting to advertise a second MMO. No really, that's the reason. The head loclaization director said they don't want to spent the 'effort' to localize Dragon Quest X. But he also said the same thing about Dragon Quest VII on 3DS, and that recently got announced. Then there's Yoshida, current head of FFXIV and one of the main producers of Dragon Quest X. He came out and said "To release Dragon Quest X in the west, we would have to radically change the way it plays." In other words, he thinks that only a WoW clone like FFXIV would be successful in the west. Which is of course stupid since MMO fans are screaming for any MMO that isn't a WoW clone. And that would be the major advantage DQX has.

Hopefully with the increase in DQ games being brought over, and DQX being announced for release in China, the game might finally be released to the rest of the world. But I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd say the best chance we have of playing it is piggy backing on the Chinese server or someone hacking the Chinese server and taking the source code to make a private server.
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>>340122842
Excalibur is ded.
Almost all the good players have transfered away.
There's still plenty of people but I wouldn't call it high-profile anymore.
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>>340120312
Just have to look a little harder, my dude.
There's also an FFXIV thread up on /d/ right now.
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>>340123104
Filled with god awful western fanart.
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>>340121178
What the fuck NO
That is the WORST SMN opener ever holy SHIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
Do you have any idea how much DPS you're losing by using ED over waiting for a second Fester? Why the fuck would you blow Tri-disaster outside of DWT when it has a 1 minute CD and should always coincide with Aetherflow, so you can throw a Fester into your DWT?
Holy shit, never give SMN advice.
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>>340123000

>game launches
>two of my friends will only play on Excalibur
>spend two days trying to fight the server queue and 3102 errors to make a character
>finally get a character made and my friends just went and made characters on Coerl instead
>after playing three weeks of the game, complete all the content on three different characters and quit
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>>340123376

how much dps are you losing by not having DWT up when Voiced Req is up?
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>>340123481
None if your BRD's using BV properly by having it up as you go into DWT.
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>>340123104
>western shit
Exactly what he didn't want.
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>>340123376
teach me how to play summoner senpai
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>>340123746
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19oKu4Isuu8rn4v5Lc4gjQhTkXSZFcmnPrcFJWVSKlvU/edit
This is your bible. Read it.
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I'll resub soon just because I really liked HW story and want to see how it ends.

If 4.0 or the next xpac, whichever it is, doesn't change up the game a fair bit I doubt I'll stick around. I think the game needs more open field content, they need to drop PS3 support and come up with content that isn't just another beast tribe, another primal, another 2 dungeons to replace the last 2 you roulette everyday.
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>>340123389
My internet crashes constantly and that 3102 error is the fucking Bane of my existence.

Hey SE, if someone logs into your servers maybe take that as a signal you should disconnect any characters still in game which are linked to that account.
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>>340109763
Also
>Never use Tornado Kick unless right before phase change
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>thought I had another day to finish shit before 3.3
>maintenance in 6 hours
Shite
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Can you make a macro to charge your chakra shit with one button press? It's just annoying doing that shit between pulls. Then doing your form shift aswell. Honestly made monk less fun to me, even though technically they are good skills.
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>>340125720
>tfw I don't need lore anymore
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>>340126120
>that feel when I have to cap lore to clear i205 before patch
I blame Yoshi for making the game boring as shit and Alexander having a sadistic loot system that gives me no motivation to continue once I've seen the last floor.
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>>340125720
>didn't cap lore a single time and subbed.
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>>340126525
I want to fuck some of these cats
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https://youtu.be/kbvv0rgrT4k
>3:22
>That Broil sound effect
Man why did they change it?
Tonberry noises>frying pan

>>340126525
Me either.
Fuck I haven't even done AmdaporHM yet, the scant tomes I've accrued are from gnath quests.
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>>340126767
That artists draws great cats.
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>>340127142
Oh man they are cute.
Especially that short black haired ninja cutie.
I may just change one of my retainers into her.
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>>340127142
Actually can you post artist name / links?
About to pass out
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>>340127431
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=12209353
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>>340127525
Wow, thanks senpai!
You're the best. Now I can make a qt NIN retainer.
And have her be topless
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>24 hour maintenance
FUCK
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>>340122990
> Which is of course stupid since MMO fans are screaming for any MMO that isn't a WoW clone.
People said the same thing about Black Desert. Now its dying a slow death. People don't know what they want but we do know anyone that tries to be different will fail.
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>>340106770
I resubbed last week. All I've done is mini cactpot each day, leveling roulette twice and A8 three times. I really don't know why I did and I hate myself for wasting that $13.
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>>340127770

People don't know what they specifically want. But they do know in a general sense that they want something that doesn't copy WoW. Just the games that have come out so far aren't good. Outside of the character creation, Black Desert is a pretty forgettable game and didn't really deviate that far from the typical MMO.

If an MMO came out that was drastically different than WoW, and was also good, it would become the next big thing.
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>>340127770
Black Desert isn't REALLY something different, though. It's a theme park pretending to be a sandbox.

Eve shows that the niche is there for an MMO that isn't WoW.
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>>340128435
You ask for too much which means it isn't going to happen. Trying to be different and be successful is way to dangerous with how many MMO have fail with being different than WoW. The amount of money to make a MMO would be better spent on a single player game.
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>>340128690

>Eve shows that the niche is there for an MMO that isn't WoW.

This pretty much. And EVE has such a steep learning curve and harsh PvP system that its amazing it has as many players as it does. Now imagine a typical land based MMO that still caters to the general public, but does things WoW doesn't. Would probably surpass FFXIV, Wildstar and Old Republic combined.
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who /good looking tank armour/ here
about fucking time too
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>>340128435
The thing is, like the other anon said, MMOs are massive time and money sinks, hence, the sub fees/cash shops for the vast majority of them.

They need to be successful, or they'll fucking destroy whatever poor developer gave birth to the thing.
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>>340128953
>EVE has such a steep learning curve and harsh PvP system that its amazing it has as many players as it does.

That's largely because the community is surprisingly accommodating to new players. They realize how quickly their game would die if they were dicks.
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>>340128836
The market decides what succeeds and what fails; make a good game and it will be profitable.
The problem is most MMO games are garbage, WoW-clone or not.
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>>340129053
>tfw 99% of 3.0 caster gear looks fucking stupid
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>>340129185
The Chivalric coats were cute.
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>>340129185
It's been pretty alright but yeah it could be better.
BLM gear is pretty cool and so is the Midas caster gear. Lore should have actually looked like Shiva's leotard armor and the new Mhachi disco pants are pretty neat.
The 185 dungeon caster gear is also pretty sweet.
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>>340128836

>You ask for too much which means it isn't going to happen. Trying to be different and be successful is way to dangerous with how many MMO have fail with being different than WoW.
MMO developers also don't have to make a game with an Old Republic/FFXIV level budget. MMOs used to be very low budget games. Look how well RO did with a budget smaller than a single player game. If the game is fun, people will play it even with Atari level graphics. Oh wait, that's exactly what Dwarf Fortress is doing.

I honestly would love a 2D MMO with the building and crafting focus of Terraria, but better combat and animations. And really, that wouldn't cost anywhere near a WoW clone. If Vanillaware could make a game like Dragon's Crown for 1 million, someone could make a solid 2D platformer/MMO with hand drawn sprites for a couple million. As long as it isn't just shit like Maple Story.

>The amount of money to make a MMO would be better spent on a single player game.
True. And I'm one of the biggest advocates for single player games. Mostly because online communities have become so toxic, you can't even sustain them. Old Republic and FFXIV were both full of meme spouters and gold spammers from day one. Tree of Savior is even worse. I fear what the next big MMO will be like.
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>>340126525
>>340126984
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>>340129279
Pity the rest of the crafted gear which matches the chivalric sets is ludicrously expensive.
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>>340129185
I loved the 115 clown outfit, only need a better hat, like witch or dusk vigil.
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>>340129164

I donno. In the low level areas everyone is nice. The minute you leave those areas though, you just get attacked non stop and world chat is just people calling you a newb.
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>>340129170
>The market decides what succeeds and what fails; make a good game and it will be profitable.
Just because you make something good doesn't mean it will popular. And that the biggest issue of all this the danger of making a MMO and losing money or don't save a lot of money and make a single player game.
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>>340129334
The Midas caster gear, the Law/yasha gear, and the replica allagan stuff are the only 3.0 coats I can stand, honestly

All the hats look silly as hell

Maybe I just have shit taste
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>>340129170
FFXIV is probably just breaking even considering the lack luster content and resources going to XV. Not to mention XIV isn't getting around 500k so that has look bad to SE investors.
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>>340129775
The more witch-like the hat the better.
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>>340129170

>make a good game and it will be profitable.
There are plenty of good games that don't get popular. I think you mean 'Make a game with a large enough marketing budget and it will be popular'. Like you recently saw with Overwatch.
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>>340129831
The financial reports have said for the past few years it keeps being profitable so I'm assuming they're not too worried at this time.
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>>340125729
Really wish they'd make chakra charge all 5 at once when you're out of combat.
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>>340129831

If FFXIV has the estimated 400-700k subs each month, its definitely making money. Just not as much money as SquareEnix wants.

Remember, FFXI was the most profitable game SE ever released and it was sitting around 250k subs for years. If FFXIV is making double that, it must be making a profit.

And this is all just more examples of why they should be releasing Dragon Quest X as well. It already had 300k subs a month in Japan. Even if it only got 200k subs in the west, it would still be making FFXIV level profit.
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>>340129515
That's why you join a corp or ask in the Rookie Help channel.
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>>340129775
The vampire outfit is fine.
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>>340130182
>Dragon Quest
FF is more popular in the west. Will DQX even have people turn their heads?
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>>340130307

FF is more popular because of one of the biggest marketing campaigns in gaming history. While Dragon Quest has had almost no marketing in comparison.

Even overlooking that, even underfunded, unadvertised Korean MMOs get attention when they release in the west. The MMO community is always so desperate for a new game. There's entire sites devoted to just which MMO is coming out each month as the ongoing trend in MMOs is to jump on one, rush through the content in a month, then jump into the next one. Dragon Quest X being from a major company would probably get plenty of attention at launch. Plus there's more DQ fans in the west than people realize. At least 500k core DQ fans given how well the games sell.
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How is machinest? Thinking about coming back now that heavens ward has been out for awhile I never played it.
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>>340130615
I've never played a DQ game but I'd like to play X. The female ogres make my dick hard.
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>>340130836

Hopefully we'll be able to play on the Chinese server. And hopefully it'll have an English translation for all those Hong Kong Ching Chongs.
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>>340106770
I find FFXIV to be like comfort food. Even if boring its still soothing enough to play to fill time. Most of my recent sub has been dedicated to farming HW beast tribe dailies and roulettes everyday for the i210 Anima.
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>>340129185
I'm still salty. My SMN is on a perma-Glacial Coat glamour. I just really want nice simple/comfy coat glamours as well. Not just overly intricate mage robes.
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>>340106331
Which data server you play on?
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>>340131496
I want to do that, but the most interesting content in this game is the ex primals and to challenge them you need to be somewhat on top of your gear which means expert roulette which means i lose motivation and quit until the next patch.

I haven't done Midas.
I haven't done Seph/Thordan.
I haven't done either of the new dungeons.
I haven't even done the School/Mandeville quests

The realisation that I'm spending 2 hours of week undergoing virtual torture for gear that is rendered obsolete in less than 6 months just undermines my enthusiasm.
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How quickly can you get a relic weapon now? Longinus Zeta is the best looking spear in the game.
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>>340133249

the zetas would probably take about a week of in game time. i don't know how fast the light-gathering stages are now
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>>340133249
Getting the base relic is about 2 hours between the fetch quests and the trials
Atmas are RNG so it's hard to say, shouldn't take more than a few hours
Books will go fast since you can do the dungeons unsynced and they cut down the kill counts
Alex goes fast since you can do the maps at 60, materia can be an issue since low level materia isn't as common as it used to be
Lights is where things slow down. You can either run Ifrit story mode for 8 lights every 30 seconds or tam tara normal for 48 lights per 4/5 minutes unsynced
Zodiak can be problematic if you don't have crafters. You'll also need 80k company seals for the bombard cores
Zeta step was a joke when it was released and it's even more of a joke now thanks to unsynced ifrit/tam tara normal
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I wouldn't mind playing XIV but anytime I look at FF games there's little things here and there that really affect my time playing it.

The biggest one is simply Blue Mages. Ever since they were added to the game way back when I always enjoyed the idea of stealing and using monster spells/abilities. I really liked how it was handled in XI with it thematically you spitting up spells and holding back from turning into a monster on top of the wide array of spells and stats junctioning.

Of course I doubt I'd see depth like that in any later FF MMO incarnation, but to have access to something like that again would really get me into it.

Also Strago best BLU.
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God I have such a urge to restart, find a guild, and grind again. Done it 4 times now and each time I quit because the end game is so mind numbingly boring and there is no PvP to fill the void either.
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>>340135302
You won't on XIV that's for sure. It's a generic themepark "WoW clone" with the Final Fantasy name brand slapped on.

Not going to lie, probably one of if not the best clone out there, but I still can't find a reason why you'd play this over WoW.
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>>340135542
There's PvP.
It just sucks complete ass.

The game just isn't designed for it. Ideally they should wrench all PvE skills from PvP and come up with ~10 unique PvP skills for each job and balance it around that.
You're ostensibly turning the game into a shitty moba, but it's better than what the PvP currently is.
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