>suddenly zero interest on the topic
What happened?
>>340049669
It was a fad.
Nobody actually wants vanilla servers.
>>340049669
Blizz gave it some lip service and the fans forgot that they have a tendency not to deliver.
>>340049669
Everyone who actually wanted to play migrated to Kronos and petitionfags never could change anything anyway.
Faggots thought this would lead to legacy servers.
Denial in the highest form
It was just a pr stunt blizzard pulled like anybody with a brain thought
No one wanted it. They just wanted to scream at Blizzard to give it to them.
i just like petitions
>You think you do, but you don't.
Blizzard is trying to make the most out of Legion's release in two or so months. They can't just throw away that sort of commitment/investment.
When their subscriber count follows through with the traditional xpac release pattern that is akin to one step forward, two steps back, they'll finally turn their focus to the vanilla server project.
It was the flavor/topic of the month. Most people don't actually want to play vanilla. Just be apart of the community that complained about it.
Most people that actually played WoW also know that spamming frost bold and Shadowbolt was never the peak of WoW, no matter how many shitposters kicks and screams about it.
>>340051095
I think a Vanilla server would be extremely popular for about a year and then quickly die off because there'd be nothing to do. Two years tops on them.
no updates from the supposed meeting that was supposed to take place.
>>340050149
This, I hope you didn't actually fall for the meme, anon
>>340049669
It was obvious from the start that they would never make any announcement before Legion. Now that the meetings happened everyone is just waiting for after Legion comes outand flops
Meeting between Morhaime and that fat weeb happened a while ago.
Meeting with the Nostal dev team just concluded. They'll be releasing more info on it soon.
>No new news about the topic
>hurrr why isn't everyone discussing the same old shit over and over
I see the Blizzdrones are taking a nice advantage of the lull to rewrite history and establish the narrative though. Have fun with your 500k subs total by the end of the first month hype of NotTBC
>>340049669
suprise, no one actually cared to begin with.
people just wanna be angry at something.
>>340049669
Kronos 2. Meanwhile everyone with mental functionality knows vanilla was awful and we've been playing on Atlantiss for a long time now.
>>340050149
first post best post
>>340052217
>vanilla was awful
>cataclysm is somehow better
>Everyone bandwagons on vanilla petition to the point where it makes news sites and trends on social media
>Blizzard eventually releases a classic server as a response
>Nobody cares, a few people play and it dies within a month
>Ends up being a huge waste of time
>We knew you wouldn't, we told you you wouldn't, you insisted you did, but you didn't
Allen Brack was right all along. Now Blizzard is never, ever going to listen to the communinty again. Good going, /v/.
>>340052217
Kronos 2 is literally dead. The downtime and the lag has killed it.
>>340049669
Discussion burned out because we're waiting on news.
Either that or everyone just switched to kronos
>>340049669
Exactly the same amount of real interest in a proper vanilla server, tons of hype then it dawns on everyone how shit and boring it would be.
>>340049669
No point talking about it until Blizzard announces Legacy.
>>340052653
I see loads of comments like these, but how can anyone be so delusional?
One can only imagine the reason being them never having tried Nostalrius, or plain and simple defending their retail WoW as somehow superior.
People were playing Nostalrius non-stop for more than a year, closing in on 2. Most of my friends played more than I did, and I only took a break of 2 months in an entire year.
And it's not like we were a minority. The server was fucking exploding, and frequently crashed early in Nost's lifespan, until server upgrades happened.
Were you even there?
>>340054021
According to Nost's own stats, the player count peaked then nosedived.
And this is on a *free* server, imagine how much worse it's going to be when people are forced to pay a sub.
>>340054021
you dont have any perspective into how "tons" of people work.
It was not that popular through all the time, it was dead for most of it. And given that anyone playn vanila played there the numbers actually are just a ridiculously small minority.
>>340049669
We're waiting for them to announce it.I bet that "ex-employee" who started the petition was actually paid by them to stall this shit so everyone forgets about it
>>340054021
>muh anecdotes
>>340051881
>They'll be releasing more info on it soon.
That's what they always say.
And it's always the announcement of an announcement.
>>340049669
the shitposters decided to use battleborn and overwatch threads instead
>>340054415
>>340054520
That's a great angle to make it sound small, but you completely disregard the fact that it was a private server, i.e. something only very dedicated fans even knew about - exluding the wave of twitch viewers that rolled in near the end of it.
Blizzard's brand name on top of such an undertaking would lead to enough people to justify putting in the work to such a server.
>>340054767
(You)
>>340049669
im just gonna leave this here
Nobody actually cared, unless you think all those petition and McRibs threads were made by genuinely concerned parties.
>>340049669
Didn't nost just have their meeting yesterday? pretty classy time to bring this back up.
>>340054809
>something only very dedicated fans even knew about
AKA the only people who are even interested in vanilla WoW.
>>340051494
Except there's no welfare gear in vanilla. so you literally have to progress through all four 40 mans if you want the top gear.
>>340051095
Don't want to sound autistic, but wouldn't Kael'thas know more about magic and be more proficient in it than Jaina? High Elves taught humans magic, he's more long lived and he's a direct descendant of the Highborne who led the elves over the Maelstorm.
>>340055045
>if you dont talk about it you don't care
kill yourself
>>340054903
When did "giving money to companies" become a mark of pride? Why do you think you're superior for paying for a facebook game?
>>340054021
>plain and simple defending their retail WoW as somehow superior.
That is the one and only legit reason why they won't release legacy. In their prideful eyes; releasing an older product would in some means imply that their current product is somehow inferieor.
But that is not the case. People just want to play a version they have more fond memories of. Haven't you ever played with Lego's and got that nostalgic feel trying to build random things like when you were a kid? It's the same thing.
If they released legacy at the same subscription fee, they would not be losing any money. They would be gaining more profit since those interested in Vanilla are not interested in current version.
Blizzard is just stubborn and are pushing their shitty product to the ground. WoW WILL die one day. Maybe, maybe then they will release legacy.
>>340055217
Are you implying the only people who'd play on official vanilla legacy servers are people that took the time to look into private ones?
I wholeheartedly disagree.
But we're arguing things that have no basis to prove either side wrong. We'll have to see.
>>340055267
Probably, but Kael'thas was fucked over in Tbc because tbc babies needed a boss for that ebin loot.
Kael'Thas died in Wc3:Frozen throne.
>>340055432
>>340050324
This is the short answer here, Blizzard is seriously fucking up by not capitalizing on the free PR wave. They SHOULD have put Nost team on the payroll full time with few of their guys slanging them and started cracking the whip to polish up the server. instead beat case scenario they release a fine legacy server in 8-12 months.
Unless they shut down Kronos, im sure as hell not leveling to 60 again....
The sub money isn't even an issue to me, rhey are just taking too long to act and Kronos is filling the demand just fine
>>340055432
I think that's also one of the questions Blizzard is asking themselves in their meetings about the whole thing.
How do they sell the idea to the masses without sounding like modern WoW is totally fucked?
It might spell the end of some people's jobs if retail WoW fails.
>>340056057
>How do they sell the idea to the masses without sounding like modern WoW is totally fucked?
By not hyping it. Don't advertise it. No official statements or announcements. Create it, release it and people will come.
Those not interested in it will not hear about it or won't care. At this point there are two groups of people. Those who play current version WoW and those who want to play Legacy. Release Legacy and those who want to play will come. Those who enjoy Legion will keep playing Legion.
I don't understand why people think that just because Blizzard would release a Legacy server would somehow split their userbase.
>>340055514
Even the people who played on vanilla private servers aren't interested.
>>340051571
https://twitter.com/NostalBegins/with_replies
>>340056382
>Those who play current version WoW and those who want to play Legacy.
are you saying people who play current wow wouldn't want to play vanilla at all? I'm sure there's a few.
>>340056057
You know vanilla servers would also be retail, right?
>>340056551
I'm sure there are. So they could do both. But then they'd have to pay two subscriptions.
Different versions, different sub bases. Release it as a separate game entirely. A reversioned IP.
>>340056462
I am one of those people. I am interested. And so are all my friends I played with.
All of the above indicates that you're retarded.
In addition to that, all the people I only met on Nostalrius that I talked to about the issue, also said they would pay for legacy.
You should stop being wrong some time.
>>340049669
>what happened?
Anyone actually interested fired up Kronos and realized how much shittier Vanilla was with a few notable exceptions. Class quests, the world not being an over designed chronological mess, and the difficulty requiring people to actually interact with each other were all positive. Vanilla's garbage balance and class design was terrible.
The lessons to learn from all this are that cataclysm's zone redesigns suck, and that people want progression options beyond "the latest expansion is the only one that matters." Pretty sure if they retooled Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor to restore the original zones and gated Raid tiers at about 3 month intervals between releases, they'd go back to printing money. I'm thinking that's what they're trying to figure out at the moment: trying to drill down to what made Vanilla great without including shit like warriors sucking to level because heroic strike is garbage on-next-attack shit with shitty rage generation in general.
>>340056678
the ex-dev guy suggested they do a box collectors edition, and morhaine seemed pretty onboard with it. I'd be on that like flies on shit (literally)
>>340056668
I meant current retail WoW, I thought that was easy to understand from context. Sorry for not clarifying.
>>340051635
Hail Blizzard.
>>340056668
What does that have to do with anything?
Just like literally everything on the internet, it had it's 15 minutes of fame and people stopped caring because some nigger jumped into a cage with it's ancestor and got it shot.
Overwatch threads will disappear once the new hot game on the market comes out. Just like people will stop caring about the 1080 once the next card is announced.
>2016
>Thinking anything has staying power beyond 2 weeks
>>340056738
>I am one of those people. I am interested. And so are all my friends I played with.
Whoa dude 3 people are interested you really showed me
>>340056802
>box collectors edition
Stop. It's only 9AM and I haven't had my coffee yet.
>post yfw Blizzcuck releases a Collector's Edition Vanilla Remastered edition
>>340056829
People say vanilla servers would hurt retail WoW, as if they wouldn't be part of the retail service if they are introduced. The last thing that's going to happen is official free to play vanilla.
>>340049669
Gamers are like SJWs or Black Lives Matter. They only care about an issue until something else comes along. Even if the company comments on it officially at this point, the majority have already moved on to another issue.
>>340057006
Even one person is enough to counter your initial argument, retard. You should reread your own post to understand how I did actually show you, not like it takes any effort when you're so wrong.
>>340049669
What's there to talk about? We have "soons" and "internal talk" and the usual Blizzard stuff.
>>340057159
Filtered.
>Nost never did release their code for free
>>340057142
"Retail wow" refers to the current modern patch and expansion, you fucking retard.
>>340057308
I'm right, you know
>>340057320
Why should they? I've spent time working on a Vanilla server (which unfortunately never launched because the head admin who was going to pay for the servers flaked) and it is a shit load of work. Giving out their code would not solve the base issue here. People want a legit server to play on without fear of being shut down a year later.
>>340049669
They thought they did, but they didnt
>>340057497
Because they said that they would if the server was ever shut down. Having to go to another server is bad enough, let alone seeing "is this quest broken?" every 20 minutes in world chat.
>2016
Who the fuck still cares about wow in any form?
>>340049669
Shilling period ended
It was all false controversy to get people talking about Blizzard
>>340057023
Found the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS4g2rkZwLI
>>340056049
>Wasting money on paying untalented hacks
>Free pr
>>340057378
Just an idea here, but maybe nostcucks would be taken more seriously if they weren't literal retards who don't even know what the words they use mean.
But maybe redefining "retail" as "new thing I don't like" also works, I don't know anymore. Try starting a petition or something.
>>340057497
Because they make the argument that they only did all this work for the love of the game and community, and if they really cared about anything like that, they would release the code to enable copies and improved versions popping up. What makes it worse is that they said they'd do it, but still haven't.
Which is fine in my book, until they throw in the towel. But seeing as there's conversation going on between them and Blizz, they should hold on to the source until things are cleared up.
>>340057320
They'll likely release it if Blizzard ends up not cooperating with them. They just need to be on good behavior if it's a possibility that Blizz will actually work with them and maybe bring official legacy servers.
>>340049669
even if legacy servers were announced it would take YEARS to actually get going, no way in hell blizzard would use a fucking stock CMaNGOS with hack fixes as their server.
>>340057320
It's not time yet, they just had their meeting with blizzard, if things still dont' go their way they still can? it's not like the code has an expiration date.
>>340050324
They will shut Kronos down too, once enough people hit max level
>>340057190
Hey, whatever makes you feel better about being wrong about your dead vanilla servers.
>>340057613
>Having to go to another server is bad enough, let alone seeing "is this quest broken?"
Exactly. It's a never ending cycle. I'm sure there are countless people who have played on private servers over the years only to have the server be shutdown and their progress of a year or two lost in a moment. Exactly like Nost.
You can create as many knockoff, faulty versions of Vanilla as you want. But they'd all be taken down.
People want a reliable, official server that they know won't go under in a year. And they are willing to pay $15/mo for it.
Can we all agree wotlk killed the series? It completely dumbed down most of the game
>>340057190
More people are not interested, your argument is invalid
>>340057878
Which will end up being ruined by extra patches just like RS06 was. There's no way to win.
>>340057787
>improved versions popping up
Yeah, only to be shut down by Blizzard again.
See,
>>340057878
>>340057775
>Just an idea here, but maybe nostcucks would be taken more seriously if they weren't literal retards who don't even know what the words they use mean.
Oh, the irony.
What is available right now on retail? WoD. Until Legacy servers exist, which they do not and we do not know if they ever will, "retail" = the current updated state of the game. In the current context, retail = WoD.
Fuck off, you fucking retard.
>>340057914
That is true for Overwatch as well, how is that an argument?
Just because not the entire world wants to play something, doesn't mean it's not profitable.
>all the pathetic bilzzdrone cucks itt defending nuwow
>>340049669
Because theres not much else to discuss about the topic, there's were threads for weeks about it and it was discussed to death.
Were all just waiting on the Nost's team meeting with blizz and further news.
Just wait until legacy servers actually get confirmed there will be a ton of
>YOU THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T BUT YOU DID
threads
>>340055267
You beat me to it. Autistic disclaimer and all.It's okay anon, we're all autistic
>>340058302
pic somewhat relevant
>HAHAHAHA NO LEGACY SERVERS NOSTFAGS BTFO
>>340049669
how long do people typically talk about something after it dies? a week? two?
>>340057994
You are acting like every private server in history got shut down, which is absolute bullshit.
Take a look at the private server scene some time.
Sure, they feel like shit to play on, but many of them have gotten takedown notices and just ignored them. They're still online, even the most popular ones.
Nostalrius laid down their arms at the first sign of resistance, which is of course kind of hilarious, since they're from France.
The point is, if everyone had access to quality code like theirs, the entire scene would benefit from it - and in turn steal Blizz's opportunity to capture the profits.
>>340050340
>Blizz schedules meetings to discuss legacy servers
>Told Mark they had the source code
>Wants to discuss with Nostalrius devs how they got things working the way they did
>Nostalrius meeting next month
Fuck off retard its happening
>>340049669
people went to private servers to play the game.
I started on kronos right before the server got shut down for 2 weeks and switched over to TBC excalibur fun server and having fun!
>>340058412
your picture is completely irrelevant
>>340057883
Yes
>played nost
>there is challenge leveling
>low level dungeons aren't a complete faceroll
>need CC on some pulls or just to be careful not to pull an extra group
>start on a WOTLK server after nost died
>can solo elite quests
>dungeons are a complete faceroll
>dungeon finder
WOTLKbabbys who say otherwise are complete idiots. TBC was the peak of the game.
>>340058412
Your right though. Were going to get threads of one or the other.
Also I remember this thread sides were in orbit.
>>340049669
Waiting to hear the details of the meeting that like just happened. It's not that there's 0 interest it's that we're in a slow news period.
>>340049669
>People make a ton of threads on /v/
>"STOP THIS! GET OFF /v/"
>People stop spamming threads on /v/
>"Ha ha! told you no one really cared!"
Die.
>>340058667
Everything you listed except dungeon finder also applied to 2.4.3 wow
>>340058578
This. I still there there is a decent chance for something.
>>340057865
Exactly. So stay away, scrub faggot.
>>340058471
Show me Vanilla server with absolutely zero bugs, and all raids, dungeons, quests (both normal and class), instances, PVP, etc. all working at 100%.
protip: You can't.
Go play your shitty makeshift servers, no one is stopping you. We want legit, supported servers that actually work.
>>340058667
I agree with you, but please keep in mind that private servers are not an accurate representation of past WotLK iterations.
The stats used on mobs and bosses are all handcrafted by those private servers, there have been many cases where something is severely undertuned (or overtuned).
It might just have been the server you tried.
>>340057840
basically this, it's like a blackmail hanging over blizzards head mostly.
>>340058906
There has never existed a bugfree server, not even the official Blizzard ones meet that criterium.
That was not even the point of my comment at all, so I'm not sure why you're talking about that.
I am also on your side, I want proper official legacy servers and never stated otherwise. Was there a mixup?
>>340058906
Even blizzard servers have issues, but I agree, I'd rather have something functioning at 95% efficiency at the least. I play on Excalibur, and there are definitely aspects about it that I hate. Like x2 experience rates, online shop, and for some reason the community is particularly toxic for some reason.
>>340058801
I'm playing on hellground and they already un-elited all the vanilla mobs =(
>>340049669
Im just waiting to see if anything happens. Should Blizzard backpedal and launch "legacy" servers of theyr own ill leave it like that (i wont support Activision Blizzard with my money for all the shit they have done and got away with)
Should Nostalrius go back up the way it was i can go back to wasting my life.
>>340049669
>nostcucks overcrowd one place like the vermin they are and are mad when they get exterminated
seriously, there's at least 2 other perfectly similar servers to choose from (so 3 in total when nost was still around) and they all pool to one place.
>>340059301
Sorry, I did misunderstand our post a little.
Giving out Nost's source code to other people would be beneficial to everyone. I agree. However because they worked so hard on perfecting Vanilla as much as they could. It earned enough recognition both by players and Blizzard (enough to legally threaten them). Personally, I didn't play on Nost.. but I heard it was the most perfected server to date. But all their hard work is what got them their foot in the door at Blizz HQ.
Just by giving way all their source code nothing would change. Sure, you'd have a huge rush of new, and better quality servers. But none of them would be legit. None of them would have real technical service, patches, nothing. People want official Legacy because they know if Blizzard dedicates to it then it'll be for forever. Not just a 1-2 year thing and then, hey.. this random guy who made a server for fun with Nost source code randomly decides to shut down the server. People are afraid of that. That's the whole issue behind all of this. Reliability. Blizzard is reliable. Random people who make servers for fun are not. Nost was an exception and this is shown by the fact that they're fucking communicating with Blizz directly as we speak.
Legacy is coming, just be patient.
>>340059486
True, even original Vanilla had bugs. But Blizzard is a huge company and the truth is, even though Nost came close enough to original retail Vanilla (enough so to gain recognition by blizzard), no one could ever get it as close to perfect as Blizz themselves.
>>340060265
Why do you have some hatred towards nostfags? I can't think of one good reason as to why you would hold a grudge against that specific group of people...
>>340052653
>Allen Brack was right all along
Well yeah. MMO players don't know what is actually good for them and the game. Every single fuck up in a mmo can be tracked down to devs listening to the fans.
>>340060037
>Playing a game Blizzard put man hours and money in to
>playing a "legacy" verison of the game
>refuse to give the creators money
And you wonder why they pulled that shit game down
>>340060265
>at least 2 other perfectly similar servers to choose from
I can't find any other servers with 1x XP rates. what are you talking about. wait, are you suggesting kronos is an option?
You think you want it, but you don't.
>>340051881
>Mike Morhaime having a 5 hour meeting with a bunch of criminals
I dont even understand anymore, why the fuck?
>>340060849
>Rip SWG
>>340049669
Blizzard flatly said they would never make a legacy / vanilla server. A "pristine" server is nothing like what we want. What more is there to talk about?
>>340049669
The human race is doomed
>>340049669
most of them moved onto Kronos server and calmed down.
>>340061098
Its so they can explain in detail what is going to happen to them if they ever release the source code
>>340060739
>people should enjoy things in the way I want them to
>Blizzard can do no wrong and disputing the word of god is blasphemy
It's the blizzdrone mentality. You can check the official forums if you want to see how a terminal case of it looks.
>>340060940
How is it not an option? The downtime's all but done. Latency isn't great all the time but it'll do.
>>340061098
Dont be so dramatic fag lord, its fucking video games
>>340061117
I still remember logging in on Dantooine that fateful day...everyone was pissed and people left in droves.
I was too dedicated and played NGE for years.
I don't know why. At least SWGemu is almost done.
so I got a free month from the movie and I used to play up until half cataclysm.
The plan is to level a warrior from scratch, gear myself from heroics or whatever they're called now and maybe do a little pvp if the gear curve isn't too steepwho am I kidding right?
Am I going to find groups for heroics or are they obsolete thanks to the raid finder thing?
Will I get into raid finder easy as an undergeared tank or am I better off going dps?
All I want to do is find a couple people to farm heroics for a couple weeks
Instead of putting up vanilla or pristine servers, why don't they just fucking listen to the playerbase and improve the game they're already making?
>>340062334
You're 11 months late. Very, VERY few people are going to be interested in interacting with you at all unless you have full 715/730 gear.
>>340062554
Because that takes work, too much work in fact.
The petition really made a difference.
There was no way Blizzard could ignore all those signatures.
We did it, bros. We actually did it.
>>340058578
>Nostalrius meeting next month
It's actually happening any day now. The meeting was said to be happening in the beginning of June.
>>340061974
Cash shop.
>>340052653
>Blizzard is never, ever going to listen to the community again.
thats a good thing maybe they wont listen to the lowest denominator and not shit up wow for once.they should just make the game how they want it and not submit forum posters constant complaining
>>340062554
Because they dont want to lose the neo-wow playerbase
Pristine would, in theory, be current game fixed (although their proposed fixes are nowhere near enough) while still having the LFR LFG pleb shit servers for their dicksucking drones
>NOST WAS SO PERFECT GUISE
>rockbiter weapon also triggered flametongue
>>340062607
Fuck, I hope at least the leveling experience is fun
what about the pvp?
I've hear you can get a full honor set in a few hours
how does it fare against arena gear?
>>340060876
Dont get me wrong. Im all for supporting a developer. I even have physical copies of the game and the first two expansions. Even payed a fair share of subscription fee back in the day.
But Activision is almost as bad as EA when it comes to business and i wont support them untill they change(likely never gona happen)
>>340062242
It's pretty playable right now.
>>340062801
>next month
https://twitter.com/nostalbegins
Try next week.
>>340062925
>I hope at least the leveling experience is fun
Pandaria is absolutely going to smack you in the face with culture shock, but once you get past that (and past the whole GOTTA GET TO MAX LEVEL GOTTA GET TO MAX LEVEL mentality) it's great.
Draenor isn't very good at all because they cut so much. Spires of Arak and nuNagrand are "alright" but the rest is trash.
was vanilla really that good?
>>340062801
The meeting just happened yeseterday, the post about what it was about is this week.
>>340063519
You must be 18 or older to post on this board.
>>340062814
Where?
>>340063519
you think it was but it wasn't. the lore was great but the mechanics of the game were terrible
>>340063094
Yeah, I'm aware. But I need my space combat, and JTL is very far off from being completed. I don't even think they have Jedi fully implemented yet. I'll probably wait until they're done wiping servers. I think they only got one more scheduled one
>>340063519
literally me
>>340049669
>What happened?
Overwatch came out, and suddenly the world switched from "fuck shit, kill Blizzard" to "I love Blizzard. I buy all their games. I want Tracer to fart on me"
>>340063797
>tfw tracer will NEVER fart in your face
its not worth living tbqh
>>340056057
Make PTR_Vanilla_build and never leave PTR status for vanilla.
>>340062126
criminals are criminals no matter what medium they conduct themselves in you shitposter
>>340063797
>>340063885
>giving blizzard money
I'd call you summerfags but the majority of /v/ has given up and is killing the video game industry right along with you.
>>340062917
To be fair shamans could use any buff they could get :^)
>>340057852
B. Nostalrius source code and database won’t be released
We acknowledge the help that the emulation community provided to us by creating MaNGOS and our initial objective was to release part of these sources to help improve the current emulators - without our special anti-cheat and some other critical features.
Our custom anticheat had unique functionalities that allowed us to detect and track any kind of hack / bot in a generic way. We believe the anticheat that we made was able to detect and was able to block all of the known threats, and releasing our code would allow the development of more powerful cheating tools that would be more difficult, if not impossible, to detect. We have spent countless hours to fight people making money from exploits, cheats and traffics: the last thing we want to see now is people getting more money from wow hacks because of us.
Some voices in the emulation scene wanted to legally force us to release the complete source code if we chose to only publish a part of it. As explained above, the anticheat is not something we would reveal in any case.
A second important point is that keeping the sources private could be useful at some point during the discussion with Blizzard. They proposed to discuss together and we want to have all the chances on our side, for the community we represent now.
Furthermore, if official legacy servers were to be released at some point in the future, the emulation would become, in essence, obsolete for our community.
>>340063116
>>340063543
Oh shit. I haven't been keeping up with this for a few days.
It turned out that actually very few people were interested in Vanilla and it was just a handful of extremely vocal Nostalrius players using proxies and bribing e-celebs to support their cause.
>>340066619
And you have evidence of this.
>>340066619
Lol this MoP/WoD/Legionshill !
>>340066619
>actually very few people were interested in Vanilla
On the off chance you aren't either:
A: Retarded
B: A troll
C: Uninformed
D: All of the above
The majority of WoW's userbase unsub'd between TBC and WOTLK expansions. Meaning, that after those two expansions their population had a drastic decrease.
People love Vanilla WoW. It's not a, "handful of vocal nost players"
If that were the case then Blizzard wouldn't even have considered holding meetings with the Nost developers.
The hell you talking about? There's demand for it
People are waiting to hear back from Nostalrius, who went to Blizzard HQ in Irvine just recently for a meeting with Morhaine, the WoW dev team, and the community managers.
No one wanted vanilla servers
>>340068410
>you may not vote in this poll
Real fair, blizzard.
>>340068410
Who took this poll? Depending on who the sample is, 40% is pretty significant.
Even if it's not, it's not like 40% is a meaningless portion and your insecurity is palpable
>>340068410
>830 people is indicative of what millions want
And this my friends is why you cant trust all "statistics". Its bullshit.
>>340050149
I was saying it as soon as the threads started popping up. Big surprise, it's dead.
>>340054021
>people were doing x on Nost
You can not speak for anyone but you and your butt fucking friends. Stop acting like Nost was anything special in a decade long sea of private servers that people joined, finished, and moved on from.
>>340068886
Exactly, so fuck off with saying Nost meant anything.
>>340050324
Is Kronos II even up? I leveled a bit a few weeks ago, got around level 30 and then the servers went down for week(s?). I just gave up.
>>340068956
>See molten WoW
>Feenix
>Emerald Dream
>All private servers die and hyped completely gone
>Nost servers pop up
>"I..It's completely different guys"
The delusion was absurd. We'll have another private server in a few months that /v/ will join on and than get bored (you know, what happens with literally every private server) while the fags making threads act like 12 year olds do when they read about Anonymous.
>>340063519
This is literally me, except I don't have shit genetics so I still have hair.
>>340068410
Well it's MMOC forums so what do you expect. Only The Instance podcast has more Blizzard apologists.
Killing the server completely killed my WoW itch
Maybe it'll come back but I doubt it will, that was a nice wakeup call for me to give up MMOs
>>340069320
BTFO
>>340069968
I could write a thesis about those three tiny paragraphs.
Here is the key difference between people who want Vanilla and people who don't.
People who want vanilla have experienced both WoW and neo-WoW
People who don't want vanilla have never played actual WoW before and can't even imagine what it was like.
>>340068410
>More than half of the people want vanilla servers
>just shy of that would even pay money for it
>"no one"
>>340051881
Nothing is going to come from this. At all. The writing was on the wall after Kern posted his recap of what happened. All we got was clarity on things we already knew, they still had the source code being the biggy.
However we got the same bullshit that has been said for a while now, it's just too hard to implement by flipping a switch. And when it comes to the details on why that's the case, or why their server hive is structured to be this way, or if it's just B.net 2.0 being the fucking road block. We're still left with nothing but, we've been listening, and no we're not going to do anything about it.
Meeting with Nost serves no purpose because they already had the source code, so how does meeting these guys circumvent the issues that are being acknowledged but yet not openly detailed?
>>340069968
he's right, though
>>340070438
Only 30% ready to pay full price
Opinion of others people, specially the ones who would play only if it will be free doesn't matter
>>340063723
no, next wipe is the "final" wipe and then its live, at least on the only authentic swg server anyway.
feel free to correct if i'm wrong
>>340070386
the key difference is one chromosome
>>340068410
>830 voters
L O L
>>340070631
First of all replying to some cuckwad replying to Nostalrius doesn't prevent them from making content for their next expansion in any way shape or form.
Second if they hadn't replied people would have continued to ask blizzard about it. That's how twatter mobs work.
Last there's nothing stupid about wanting vanilla WoW back, or having the option to play it since it was the objectively better version of the game.
>>340051494
It was going strong for 3 years and still was up until the plug was pulled.
>>340049669
time passed
>>340070807
He seems to socialize just fine on the forums.
Must be a troll post.
>>340070807
Blizzard shot themselves in the foot by looking to maximize dollars than keeping a legitimate design philosophy. WoW already was casual enough in terms of the MMO-scape, but allowing shit baggers like him/her/it believe that a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, somehow should cater to their little bubbles is fucking insulting.
Games like Elder Scrolls, Gothic, Witcher etc, exist for these people.
>>340071251
In his mind forums are somehow single player.
>>340070807
only raids were for a smaller minority of players, fucking EVERYONE played dungeons, so his 1% point is bullshit unless he thinks raiding is the entire game, which it is not even close to being
>>340071304
Just like MMORPGs are somehow single player.
So, did the fire this guy?
>>340070702
I'm still waiting to hear where this was posted and what kind of people took the poll.
I'm pretty sure no matter what it is it's completely invalid because of that plus the small sample size, but it's still a pretty significant chunk and saying it's "nobody" just seeps of blizzdrone stockholm syndrome asshurt.
>>340071251
I'm not sure. Check his armory and decide.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/wyrmrest-accord/Tanald/simple
The guy doesn't do anything.
>>340071524
>only raids were for a smaller minority of players
Only they weren't. The whole "1%" meme refers to players with very high end gear. That's not raiders in general, that's people who had every single little piece of gear or cleared raid dungeons far before anyone else.
Almost everyone raided if they could.
>>340070916
>free server
>chinese and bots
>one private server in a long line of other unsuccessful private servers
I wouldn't even care if you faggots didn't keep acting like Nost was special. Do you not realize that retards acted like the "big" private server before it was special? And the one before that and so on? Where are all those servers now?Answer: They are all dead like Nost
>>340071990
Nost was first server with more than 3k online, and it's was first severthat worked and wasn't permanently in lag with online more than 1k
>>340072226
and the servers before them had their own shitty "milestones". They are also all gone and forgotten. You celebrating the number of chinese bots on Nost is the same as people celebrating the number of bots on ED or Molten WoW. It's the same shit being regurgitated every time.
>>340071524
>>340071826
Additionally this meme (as I'm going to continue to call it) was central in Blizzard/Acitivision's shaping of future expansions for WoW. Crybabies would cry about players who played more than them because they had the misfortune of rolling on a PvP server when they didn't really want to PvP.
In other words casual players expected to be as good as hardcore players in PvP and whined constantly about it until Blizzard started cutting out world PvP and forced all players into arenas and battlegrounds and shit. So PvP servers because PvE servers simply because casuals couldn't deal with the idea that they couldn't compete with someone who played more than they did.
Where in the rest of the world is this true? In what other multi-player game is this true? If you started playing Chess tomorrow and had a match with a Grand Master who has played many more hours than you you're going to get stomped. Is that a flaw with the game? No, the Grand Master has put more time into learning the game and getting better at it. This is not a dose of reality that some people like to be reminded of.
It's why Final Fantasy XIV doesn't have any world PvP. It's why WoW doesn't have any world PvP. It's why everyone is rewarded equally despite not putting in equal time and effort. These games are literally for nobody but casuals anymore. When they say "Hardcore Raiding for Everyone" they mean "A Hardcore Game for Everyone Except the Hardcore."
>>340072647
I don't understand why you're so intent on shitting on bots when 70% of the retail playerbase are soapbox and honorbuddy subs as well.
>>340051635
>shitt ing on GamerGate
Reminder it actually accomplished something. Stay salty tumblr/feminists niggers ;3
>>340071251
I'm a asocial person myself, so maybe I can shed a little light on this. Posting on internet forums is a whole different ball park from actually interacting with people in real time.
It's hard to explain, but basically being put in a situation where you have to interact with a person without being able to slink away can make you feel even more awkward and asocial than you would with just dropping some random post on a message board.
I still want vanilla servers. It just becomes tiresome to repeat the same old shit. Blizzard just need to get off their stupid asses and JUST DO IT.
At least that meeting with Morhaime recently shed some light on their interest in understanding how the Nostalrius team beat the issues to do with the original client.
>>340072859
Not him but what did it accomplish again?
Vanilla had a special feeling. Got up to level 30 on nostalrius before they shut it down. I found the slow leveling and need to party up refreshing.
But desu Burning Crusade is 100% better than Vanilla. It does everything right and improves the formula.
>defending ActivBlizzard
>pissing on free servers
I keep forgetting /v/ is full of mindless brandrones, and kiddies with parents credit cards. >>>/biz/ards are cancer, and do not belong on /v/.
>>340072857
Because I don't give a fuck about retail and don't play it. I just think the people who were making all those Nost threads and acting like it was god's gift to the world were stupid. And my reasoning was that those same threads were made for every private server before Nost for several years. It's a cycle.
>>340072980
>Burning Crusade is 100% better than Vanilla
>killing world PvP
>smaller world
>queues
>resilience
>smaller raids
I liked BC's world, dungeons and music but otherwise it was the biggest downfall. If they had kept Vanilla's formula for those other things it would have probably been the best expansion for any MMORPG ever.
>>340049669
People have moved on to other private servers. Currently playing a blizzlike TBC server and I never want to play vanilla again.
>>340073140
>Shit on ActivBlizzard
>also shit on retarded Nostfags
I'm sorry that your drop in a bucket server got taken down, I'm sure it was going to change the world.
>>340073165
So your a shitposter. Gotcha buddy.
>>340073323
>your
>>340051881
>We can't answer questions because, uh, um, jet lag!
>>340073302
>drop in a bucket
>10+% of active to retail
>1 of many active independent servers
Okay pissant.
>>340073165
Vanilla WoW was the shit dude. It was the apex for the biggest game ever. It went to shit after a couple years but it was still the apex. What's hard to understand about that? What's hard to understand about people wanting to play that again?
>>340049669
>Remember goyim, you don't want vanilla!
>>340073358
>you're
Learn proper engrish nigger. Go back to church.
>>340058687
>Your
>Were
Christ.
>>340073323
I'm glad you've shown you don't have any actual retort. Don't worry, a new private server will crop up and retards will be posting the same threads they did for Nost.
What a wonderful life.
>>340067367
That's incorrect. WoW suffered it's biggest drop when Cata started. Vanilla is trash by the way and no one I know that played vanilla thought it was better than mists or cata.
>>340049669
A gorilla died.
A TBC or Wotlk legacy server would be preferable than a vanilla one.
Anyone else agree?
>>340073581
I wanna kiss Bambi
>>340073424
>1 of many active independent servers
Yeah, no shit. That's the point you retard. Nost is one of many and it was nothing special when /v/ is always shitting their pants over one private server or another. Try spending years here and seeing the same threads made year after year with a different private server name. They always think they are special.
>>340073492
Try not to get your tears all over me. I enjoy private servers, I just think Nost fags are delusional. I never had any impression that Nost was special while playing it and the threads people were making about it were carbon copies of the threads people made for the big private server before it, and the one before that, and so on.
All I have ever said is that Nost threads are shitposting general. It's not exactly a point worth arguing when we have an archive of people going "Emerald Dream is the biggest private server ever, Blizzard can't ignore this, look at the population numbers, hold me /v/ I'm crying".
Do you have any idea how many times /v/ has been spammed with "X" private server is super special? It's the same as 12 year olds that get giddy when they read about Anonymous. It's just delusions and wanting to be a part of something.
>>340073707
Don't know about WotLK, but the best TBC private pvp-server with 1x rates (until Corecraft, never ever) right now is probably Hellfire.
Why are wowfags so obnoxious
>>340049669
Still waiting.
>>340074115
>It's just delusions and wanting to be a part of something.
You're probably right but them wanting to call attention to the older version of the game is a positive thing for video games in a sea of DLC and SJWs and other anti-consumer bullshit. There's nothing really wrong with making a thread about something like that, especially when most threads are e-celeb cocksucking and blatant shilling for blizzard.
>>340074437
>conveniently ignoring the hundreds of fromdrone threads per day
>>340074563
I clearly wasn't.
>>340073668
fucking kek
>>340074115
Nost was vast improvement over the other feenix based servers by far.
>>340074437
>Nost is super special you guys
>holy shit this server is one of a kind XD
>guys you have to join this is the moment you've been waiting for
It's just blatant faggotry and you can replace Nost with a number of other private servers and you'll find /v/ threads that look near identical to each other. I don't give a shit about private servers in general and I thought Nost was fine, but all the people acting like it was some sort of miracle child were retarded and they continued to act like Nost was the first of its kind.
It gets a little grating when you only have a two month grace period between "HOLY SHIT EVERYONE X SERVER IS AMAZING", X dying, and than "HOLY SHIT EVERYONE Y SERVER IS AMAZING". It never stops and Nost fags were just obnoxious.
overwatch came out
>>340075105
Yes, and the big private server before Nost was a big improvement over what came before it, and so was the server before that, and the one before that.
What a stupid point. Did you really think that meant anything. How does Nost being the improvement over its predecessor mean anything when before Nost, the last server being spammed on /v/ was the best out as well? It means nothing. They are spammed all the same and they die all the same.
just saw the movie
pretty meh
nice cgi orcs looked nice
but otherwise mehanyone got a link for the prequelbook?
>>340072965
Getting a shit ton of untalented people fired. The ones who didn't like or play any video games and wanted to push their shitty "the world is one village" agenda by shaming games that tried to be outside the comfort zone of a liberal arts white guilt fascist.
Now they are out in the streets making "art" of fat people and trashgendered people. And probably telling 8 year old boys to be gay.
>>340075130
I mostly agree with you but I just think it's an odd thing to get your knickers in a twist over considering the overall state of /v/.
>>340075523
That's pretty cool.
>>340075314
>improvements mean nothing
uhh, what.
want to start playing on kronos, whats the differance between k1 and k2 tho?
>>340074415
Keep waiting because they pretty much gave an answer and it wasn't one people wanted to hear
>So what can we do to capture that nostalgia of when WoW first launched? Over the years we have talked about a “pristine realm”. In essence that would turn off all leveling acceleration including character transfers, heirloom gear, character boosts, Recruit-A-Friend bonuses, WoW Token, and access to cross realm zones, as well as group finder. We aren’t sure whether this version of a clean slate is something that would appeal to the community and it’s still an open topic of discussion.
>>340076625
keep up..
>>340076470
Yes, when I'm arguing that /v/ spams threads for every new private servers that stands above others, it is irrelevant to note that Nost improved upon other servers when that same shit goes for all the other servers that were spammed here
Example,
>Emerald Dream is the best server, it has X players which is more than any other so far
dies
>Nost is the best server, it has Y players which is more than any other so far
dies
All I've argued is that Nost threads were garbage as they were identical to the threads people made about the servers before it. Nost being an improvement is part of my argument, because for every server before it, people would always make threads saying that
"Bu..but this server is different, it's an improvement over the others".
Is this really that difficult to wrap your brain about? Did you even comprehend what I was saying when you brought up improvements or did you just see Nost hate and immediately retort with garbage?
>>340076886
yeah that says a lot about the progress they're making
>we had another meeting!
>...it went well!
>they're very passionate!
>we've said the exact same thing in every post!
pristine is probably what you're gonna get
>>340077089
lol the only reason people give a fuck about nost is because it allowed them to play vanilla wow with a decent connection (not blizz quality obviously) and no xp boosts or p2w shit. People love vanilla wow, tehrefore they loved nostalrius. That's all there is to it, calm down.
>>340055267
Jaina was mentored by Medivh's mom and the most power mage in warcraft, Aegwynn. Also taught by Antonidas.
>>340077225
>That's all there is to it
>only reason
Yeah, I'll take your word for it over the entire archive of /v/ private server threads because you obviously speak for /v/ which has only one opinion and means of sharing it.
Honestly vanilla was great because we knew nothing about the game
The sense of wonder was lost, even if Blizz did make legacy servers, most of you wouldnt be able to play in them because vanilla was too time consuming
WoW may not be great right now, and wod is/was terrible but still the best MMO in the market
Legion will most likely be decent and will lure in more people from the movie hype so maybe the community will improve a bit
>>340078098
Vanilla is just an immensely better game than what Blizzard offers now. No loss of a 'sense of wonder' changes that.
