Why exactly aren't you hyped, /v/?
it's not really 4k capable.
>Nvidia
I'd like to actually have a DX12 capable card if I'd upgrade. And considering it's not out yet, I don't know what other meme technologies they've implemented, like their patented 87,5% VRAMworks.
Cause I don't really care about PC gaming.
Cause the rx 490 will likely have better tech and be the better buy
Why would I buy this overpriced garbage when nvidia will make it shit anyways
>800e
Cause I'm getting the 480 meme card instead
>>340042690
>Nvidia
also expensive
Because it's a maxwell refresh
Not really a big upgrade for me at this point.
>>340043462
This. I think it's reason why I'll pass.
>>340042690
because i'm a poorfag so the RX 480 looks like a better option for me
is the mid tier version called GTX 720?
is the low tier called GTX 480?
Because I just bought a 390 and don't need a new card.
>>340044082
you can still be hyped about something you won't buy.
>>340042690
Friend of mine went out and bought 2 EVGA 1080s.. said hey might as well upgrade my cpu..
Buys that overpriced 6 core they just released. Buys 32gb of gaming RAM.
Still waiting on his GPUs, wont be here till end of June, his 6 core is causing him problems..
I will never get this mindset.
I have an old i5 at 3.4ghz and a 970.
Hit 60 on everything
r9 480 x 2 is cheaper than 1 x 1080 and performs better, that's why.
>>340044219
How many games do you think will utilize croosfire / SLI ? It will be a headache to try get good fps with 2 card conf in most games. Either buy 1070 or be happy with one 480 and later upgrade to vega
>>340044205
it's autism, bro.
What is the purpose of card that is several times more powerful than the average multiplat requires
>>340044205
He wants to play 4k resolution, and for that he did the right thing. I got 5820 recently and have been happy
>>340044219
I used Crossfire for 2 years and SLI for a year.
Don't bother.
>>340044370
Maybe so. Hey if i had the cash i'd probably do it too but i'd at least wait a bit and i wouldn't buy a CPU that isn't gonna be used to it's fullest by any games...cept maybe arma but lets face it, you'd need 22 cores for arma multiplayer
>>340044454
To run it on higher than 1920 res , or VR (Sim racing with VR is god tier)
>>340044219
>Crossfire
Are you a fucking idiot?
>>340044484
I have 1080p, why the flying fuck do i need 4k for GAMING?
>>340044505
Maybe people use the CPU for other tasks than gaming only? I do photo editing, but I'm certain there are many who do video editing or 3d/CAD
>>340044454
Don't you wanna play at 5K like all your popular friends do goy?
>>340042690
Because I don't have money.
Poorfag
>>340044465
He has a 1440p g sync monitor
>>340044550
well you don't need 4k.
but some people demand the highest quality and if they have to money to do so why not
>>340044550
4k gives better resolution / better pixel density with bigger monitors, you get more surface area. You can either have a 23" close to you, or a 32-40" a little bit further.
>>340044582
He doesn't. I'm aware of what they can be used for.
Waiting for aftermarkets to appear and benchmark, then waiting to see how the 480x handles in comparison to the 1070.
Simply not worth it, unless you don't care about money.
>>340044062
Slightly underrated
>>340044205
>his 6 core is causing him problems..
How?
>>340044703
This
>>340044703
1070 > 980ti > rx480 > 980
The RX490 will "hopefully" be closer to 1070 spec with its 300 USD price point, but it will take time for that to appear.
>>340044658
If you actually game, chances are your eyesight is abysmal
>>340044363
Why exclude MultiGPU?
>>340044738
not knowing BIOS tweaks or incorrect driver(s) install
>>340044798
I don't wear glasses and have been gaming for 20 years. What are you talking about?
>>340044806
because it's a headache to set up
>>340044872
>Plug them in
>Play game
???
>>340044738
I'm not too sure. I think he put a slight overclock on it and the temps are spiking even on idle or some shit.
All i know is I haven't played a single game with him since he got it cause he's always dicking about doing god knows what with the bios.
>>340043657
>>340044806
The crossfire and SLI support is very minimal, not many games benefit from it very well, it's headache and painful process.
>>340044918
Again, I'm not talking about those.
>>340044903
A lot of problems can occur using multigpu set-up.
Also, >>340044918
tired of buying stuff
>>340044905
Maybe he hasn't upgraded the drivers? You know, the CD that comes with every mobo purchase.
>>340042690
It's already outperformed by AMD.
>>340044968
I'm talking about the DX12 feature that AMD showcased mates. Called MultiGPU. Not Crossfire, not SLI, MultiGPU.
>>340044980
I sat and watched him build it, guy knows his shit and did indeed install and upgrade the drivers.. he's one of those guys who knows just enough to be dangerous
>>340044976
Better go back to playing with friends in the woods then >>>/cgl/
>>340045001
In a benchmark with crossfire as opposed to actual testing?
>>340043462
Basically this I guess, still only 30 fps at 4k and on lower resolutions it doesn't matter since cheaper ones will perform just as well. Its marketed as better than 900-series but it still won't do what it promises.
niggas think they can see higher res, literally a waste of money especially if you dont stream and record at the same time
>>340045021
I'm not finding any info on that
>>340045268
I'm sorry that you're retarded?
>>340045232
I hope your trolling
>>340045232
You can if you have a wider monitor. Also, downscaling can get rid of jaggies without having to resort to AA
>>340044626
Why shed out money for all the other stuff but not for a 4k monitor? Not that there are that many good 4k gaming monitors anyway.
>>340044905
If the temperatures spike to the extend of shutting down, there has to be a problem with the CPU cooler. There's no way to set it to heat up that much in software.
>>340045289
You're claiming AMD has come up with something "new" regarding MultiGPU, don't show any evidence/source, and call other people retard when a google search doesn't bring any results?
Are you sure you're old enough to be here?
>>340045340
Quite simple. More money than sense. Don't get me wrong the guy is a total bro but I could slap him when he spends £150 on a new keyboard like 6 months after he buys the first one.
He'll go out and buy a new monitor soon im sure
>>340042690
>Nvidia's new meme card.
>Hype.
Because I'm not buying into jew tactics.
>>340042690
Can't afford it, only work as an intern which means no pay unless I get hired.
I am. Read a few great articles on the new arch and advancements made with the 1080. Seems really cool.
I'm not buying one any time soon because the gpu I have now is fine for me.
I'm quite tempted to get the cheapo no drivers special 480 because I'm poor as fuck but in my heart I know it's stupid because of the whole nVidia sabotaging every game with their bullshit.
>>340045382
It doesn't shut down, i just have a funny feeling he'll never be happy with his PC output.
Some people are weird, I know a bit about computers but not a huge amount. He reads tech blogs and watches youtube shit all the time.
He'll never be happy with his temps
>>340045642
Well eventually there will be newer API (Vulkan) to replace DX, but so far only few games support it, and the process will take time. What's good about Vulkan however is that apparently AMD will have some lead over Nvidia in it. You could buy RX480 for 230-250 now and then later year replace it with some vega card? idk
>>340045459
t. jelly poorfag
>>340045642
>I know it's stupid because of the whole nVidia sabotaging every game with their bullshit.
That's not working well for them anymore. There are amd games like hitman and nvidia games like doom that has the 390 on par with theirs. Never mind the dx12 games where amds 300 series beats the 900 series on.
Either way the 490 will be better than the 1070 likely around 300 bucks so I'm not getting stuck with nvidia shit for 3-4 years.
>>340045419
>You're claiming AMD has come up with something "new" regarding MultiGPU
No I'm not.
>don't show any evidence/source
Because it's pretty common knowledge? It's even on the slides and shit.
>and call other people retard when a google search doesn't bring any results?
Yes, because the most basic google search gives information on that.
Let me help you.
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dx12%20multigpu
>>340045784
Jelly? man I get all the shit he doesn't want for free lol. I have a build better than i could ever afford myself
How long till the evga non founder 1070? I need to play witcher 3 on it instead of my 770
>>340043657
Cuck nigger degenerate.
Killyourself.
>>340045783
Buying cards to tide me over until there's a good keeper isn't viable for a poorfag like me
>>340045842
>That's not working well for them anymore.
Maybe, and hopefully it keeps up because fuck that whole nonsense in general, but the cynic in me says they're going to come up with some more bullshit to make AMD cards under perform again
>>340042690
I only buy midrange and superior architectures.
>>340045897
Well apparently not many know about it (whatever) since you're not getting a lot of responses
Because the RX 490 rekts 1080.
>>340046054
That's a stupid way to measure that. I'm not going to respond to something that's already known or common knowledge either, I'd be more likely to respond to new information because that's actually valuable.
>>340046043
You could wait for RX490, with luck it could be out within 2 months. It should be closer to 1070 spec with price tag of 300 USD
>>340045696
it's a six core, it'll run hot as fuck unless on water. mine idles at 25° thru 34° thru it's cores, on water.
that is with shit running in background, just browser open.
my cpu/core 4 is always the hottest.
>>340042690
Consoles keeping it back. Who cares about it? No game will push it. a 700' series card can still run most games on max settings just fine.
>>340046117
Where'd you get this? I figured the 490 would likely get HBM2 (A big maybe) but there's no way it'll be 10 flops. More like 7-8.
>>340045021
Given how shit SLI/Xfire have been in the past, why would you believe DX12 multi-GPU support would be any different without evidence? Again, the responsibility is still on the developer to optimize for it, which is rare. If you're buying two budget cards on blind faith that multi-GPU setups are "improved" you're a sucker and exactly who AMD is targeting.
>>340043760
I am kinda pro nVidia and I am super interested in the 1070, and will most likely get the 1070. But I really want to see what the 490x is looking like. I don't necessarily mind paying a bit extra for nvidia cause they do have a lock on the market with all the game works and tesselation stuff. But AMD gets amazing performance for the price so this will be a tough decision. In absence of any information though, I'd choose the 1070.
Its the perfect time anyways because i can't really think of a very demanding PC game that I'm looking forward to this year. Battlefield 1 will probably require some high-specs to make it look like the trailer, but I'm having difficulty caring about that game. But performance on BF1 will be a great way to decide what card to buy.
>>340046438
>why would you believe DX12 multi-GPU support would be any different without evidence?
Assuming there is no evidence, because now it's integrated into the API and doesn't require AMD/Nvidia to release drivers to fix that shit constantly.
>Again, the responsibility is still on the developer to optimize for it, which is rare.
That's not really an "again", previously it was up to the GPU manufacturers really.
>>340046163
he's crazy man.. we had to stop playing Dying light because his fans were too loud. He went out and bought all new fans, a new cpu cooler and a new case the next day. That was like 3 builds a go
>>340042690
There isn't a piece of software to justify the upgrade.
>>340046406
Complete conjecture, nobody has any deets.
>>340046620
You're right, you should aim to be the first to buy 2 RX480s and post the results of your findings on youtube.
>GTX 1080
>8 TFLOPS
>EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS
>Rx 480
>5.7 TFLOPS
>ONE HUNDRED NINTEY NINE BURGER BUCKS
NVIDIOTS = BTFO
NVIDIOTS = BTFO
NVIDIOTS = BTFO
>>340046620
>That's not really an "again", previously it was up to the GPU manufacturers really.
ANd the game developers, since a lot of games featured 0% SLI/Xfire scaling. If the game doesn't support it you're fucked regardless of how many GPUs you have. Even if you manage to force it in Nvidia inspector or something you'll still get microstutters out the ass.
>>340046750
>you should aim to be the first to buy 2 RX480s and post the results of your findings on youtube.
Why?
>>340046759
They're for very different crowds
>>340046810
>ANd the game developers, since a lot of games featured 0% SLI/Xfire scaling.
That's not a logical conclusion.
>If the game doesn't support it you're fucked regardless of how many GPUs you have.
It was up to the GPU manufacturers to make it supported, not the devs. This is irrelevant info.
>>340046829
Because you're certain it will work, based on theory. If you're so certain of it, make a video so rest of ppl can laugh at you.
>>340046759
But 8 is more than 5.7.
AMD won
>AMD
>wanting random games to just not work
Atleast the winters get cold by me so nvidya helps
>>340046896
>Because you're certain it will work
I don't see why you think that.
>>340046965
What did they win? A free haircut?
>>340047048
total biscuit
>>340046648
I'm the same way and i understand, trust me he's just wanting to protect his investment. sooner or later he might come to terms and just say fuck it, but i doubt it haha.
I monitor my temps and clocks like a freak too.
that pic i posted has my GPU fucking clocking itself up just because i opened snagit to take the snap-shot and it has me going fucking silly cause normally my gpu idles at 135MHz lol.
>>340046890
>That's not a logical conclusion.
No, it's a fact. Most games simply don't work. Occasionally it's patched in later but it usually runs like shit. You get hoigher FPS but microstutters. I actually fell for the SLI which is why I try to warn people not to do it. Buying multiple GPU's unless you actually need them for doing work-related things is retarded. Multi-GPU setups are simply bad for gaming and never worth it, and it would take a hell of a lot of evidence for me to belive this gen of GPU's are any different.
>>340047165
You're assuming the only people that have any way to make the game perform better in any way are the devs, which is not true at all. Hence why it's not a logical conclusion.
>>340047267
Fine, believe the magic of DX12 and buy two GPUs, then post your results. Someone needs to fall for the meme first I suppose.
It's too expensive for me and I already have a 3DS. I hope that the new AMD GPU will be cheap and good though. I want another HD5770-like GPU and I can't stand Nvidia jewery.
>>340046908
Yeah, but not 4 times more.
>>340047360
>and buy two GPUs, then post your results
Why do I need to do that? Fuck you mate, I ain't buying something just because you want results. There will be benchmarks anyway.
Just realize you're fucking stupid and that it wasn't the devs that made Crossfire/SLI drivers.
>>340047489
>Just realize you're fucking stupid and that it wasn't the devs that made Crossfire/SLI drivers.
It's obvious you've never actually used Crossfire or SLI because you still don't understand that SOME GAMES DON'T WORK. THIS IS 100% OBJECTIVE FACT. Some games feature 05 or even slightly negative SLI/Crossfire sclaing. Again, this a fact, do not try and argue this. It has nothing to do with drivers or GPU's but the simple fact that the engine either doesn't support it at all (idTech 5) or the dev was too lazy to enable. Sometimes you can force it but it goes to shit. Again, I have SLI so I know what I'm talking about.
I also fell for the multi-GPU meme. It's really shit.
But AMD isn't saying "buy 2 RX480's" they're just saying the price/perf of their cards blows nvidia out of the water.
>>340047736
>because you still don't understand that SOME GAMES DON'T WORK.
Why do you think this? Because it's wrong, the part about me understanding that obviously.
>>340047736
>It has nothing to do with drivers
lolwat. Drivers don't affect performance? Really?
>>340047840
It's kind of amazing how someone can just go on the internet and tell lies. I have an SLI setup. You don't. That much is clear, since nothing you've said is accurate.
>Why do you think this?
Because it's a fact.
>>340048016
>Because it's a fact.
How do you know it's a fact? What did you to really check that I really think that? What are you basing it on?
Because, to be even more clear, I know some games don't work with SLI/Crossfire. So it's not a fucking fact.
Electrical engineers are the worst
>>340048016
>It's kind of amazing how someone can just go on the internet and tell lies.
Are you implying that saying that drivers can affect performance is a lie? Because that's completely stupid.
>>340048229
>Are you implying that saying that drivers can affect performance is a lie? Because that's completely stupid.
Are you retarded? That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying devs are important to determining whether SLI/Crossfire is even available. Drivers have fuck all to do with the conversation, I'm not sure you've been following the plot. SLI/Crossfire support is usually implemented in a game patch.
>>340048112
Idtech 5. Wolf TNO has 0 SLI/Crossfire scaling because the devs refused to implement it. John Carmack has openly stated id would never support multi-GPU setups because he thought they were worthless. While this is true, it proves that if the devs don't give a shit then you can't scale.
>>340044002
It's much higher performance to dollar ratio anyway from what we've seen. 2 of them will only be around 400 bucks which will be almost exactly the performance of this garbage and still cost significantly less.
gonna buy a 1080 just as soon as the cheaper partner versions are released.
They sure are taking their sweet time
>>340048519
>I was saying devs are important to determining whether SLI/Crossfire is even available.
With "It's kind of amazing how someone can just go on the internet and tell lies."? How? Because >>340047840 doesn't even mention that. So, what "lies" were you referring to? Quoted the wrong post or something?
>Drivers have fuck all to do with the conversation
That's pretty much what it started with mate.
>SLI/Crossfire support is usually implemented in a game patch.
kek
>Idtech 5. Wolf TNO has 0 SLI/Crossfire scaling because the devs refused to implement it. John Carmack has openly stated id would never support multi-GPU setups because he thought they were worthless. While this is true, it proves that if the devs don't give a shit then you can't scale.
Yeah, I think you don't know how the reply function works, because all of this is fucking unrelated to what he said. I guess the only conclusion to get from this is that you didn't actually know it was a fact, and had no idea what the topic was about in that post. Makes sense considering the rest really.
I kinda am. But I might still slug it out with my 760 for awhile and wait for pricing to drop a bit.
$600 for a graphics card is kinda ridonk, IMO, considering that's a little under two weeks pay for me right there.
>>340048780
Are you quoting the wrong post? Nothing you've said makes any sense to the conversation. I don't think you even know what the conversation is about.
>>340048919
>Are you quoting the wrong post?
No.
>Nothing you've said makes any sense to the conversation.
It actually does.
>I don't think you even know what the conversation is about.
The lies was about you(?) implying >>340047840 said something about the devs, when he didn't. And the fact part in >>340048016 says that you(?) think it's a fact that >>340047840 thinks that games always work in SLI/Crossfire, when that's not true.
I hope that clears it up. Clearly you didn't get what >>340047840 said, even though he was pretty clear with >>340047840
>the part about me understanding that obviously.
>>340049130
Pretty much everything you implied was incorrect. Just leave the conversation, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>340049242
>Pretty much everything you implied was incorrect.
What did I imply? I only directly said things. If you're taking implications out of it, it's your problem.
Anyway, it's clear that you really didn't realize >>340047840 was talking about me understanding shit, not the game performance or whatever. So now you're trying to imply that I don't get what it was about. You're pretty fucking shallow, and this just makes all your opinions sound even less based in reality.
Same person as >>340047840 obviously.
i can still max everything I play with my 970 and I don't plan on moving on from 1080p any time soon.
>>340050052
You could max everything on 2k as well. And nothing can max anything on 4k as of yet.
>>340050052
>>340050272
There are some games that won't max on a 970, on FHD and QHD. Hitman and GTAV come to mind.
>>340042690
no hbm no 4k terrible dx12/async
no Nvidia Jew
Because the 480 will do just fine on 1080p and $200 less.
>>340042690
Cause the 199$ pricetag for the 480 is so fucking tempting.
No way am I dishing out 600 fucking bucks for this shit, when it can't even run 4K properly.
the same reason why no one is hyped for vr, no games that requires it
>>340042690
>look at wallet
>$800
>look at gtx 1080 prices
>$700
>look at 1440p 144hz monitors
>$600
maybe one year /v/
>>340043601
The Current Nvidia cars support DX12 you fucking flaming turd.
Would you do your fucking research for once instead of shitposting?
I've been playing Rise of The Tomb Raider in DX12 for the past few months on my 970.
>>340052212
I was talking about actual support, not just being able to play them. Enjoy those asynchronous shaders.
>>340042690
I am very hypedat the price drop other video cards will get.
No thanks I'm fine with AMD new meme card. Their driver used to be terrible but it's decent now.
>>340042690
>Can't output 4K at 60fps
>Nothing about it is better than its cheaper little brother
Because it's shit?
