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>no mods >no community servers Blizzard is digging themselves
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>no mods
>no community servers
Blizzard is digging themselves an early grave at a slow rate. This game will NEVER last like TF2 has if they don't open up the options for the community.
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>>340028857
>no mods
>no comunity servers

>implying the overwatch playerbase cares about any of those
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the game will be dead regardless since it's so boring

they need to release a new hero every ~3 months
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>>340028857
Alright man, I mean, Im still going to keep playing, but eh new games come out and people move on, but right now its a blast lol. If people don't want to play thats completely cool, not everyone has to like everything and that's OK! :3 Just play what you like and most importantly have fun!! :3 :3
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>>340029461
>>implying the overwatch playerbase cares about any of those

Of course they won't once they start to move on to the next game to hold their interest.

Blizzard are already showing that they're working at a snails pace with post game content and updates. Eventually people will get bored.
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the game is already dead, nobody plays it.

nobody except for r eddit, and if your from there you need to die and leave this web site immediately. fuck all of re ddit.
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>there isn't even a proper way to input sensitivity

>tournaments are being played like this
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>>340028857
Anon, why do you try to bring down the enjoyment of other people playing games they like? Can't people just play the game and enjoy it right now? Why cast doom and gloom on the fanbase? You don't like it so others shouldn't or something?
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>>340028857

I want my Lucio parkour maps.
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>>340028857
Because tf2 had so many mods on release right?
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>>340028857
Fuck people who play as Mcree, Reaper or Hanzo. They are the scum of the earth and should be taken out back and shot.
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>>340029797
>nobody plays it
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>>340029717
>it'll die any day now, j-just wait and see

7 million units sold in 1 week.
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>>340029872
>Because tf2 had so many mods on release right?

TF2 was bundled with Portal and Episode 2 while also having private servers.

It's stupid to try and use this "but TF2 at release!". Especially when Overwatch is a heavily marketed AAA game from Blizzard priced at 40-60$.
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>>340029823
>surf servers filled with lucio
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>>340030046
>makes a rebuttal about the mods complain

>replying by putting the goal post all the way to the back and starts talking about bundling and pricing
Wew
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>>340029797
Is there something wrong with your "r" and "e" keys anon? Also, are you okay anon, why are you so angry :3 ?
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>>340029717
> working at a snails pace with post game content and updates.

aaaand here we go
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>>340029873

>tfw i always play mcree, reaper or bastion
>infinite tears no matter what

It shouldnt be this easy to trigger people but i fucking love it
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>>340028857
>Everyone is watching the rocket or something taking off
>Bastion is checking that MEKA unit's backside reactors
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>>340028857
i just want custom maps
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>>340029717
>Blizzard are already showing that they're working at a snails pace with post game content and updates
>game has been out for almost two weeks
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>>340028857
I only want mods for some Lucio jump maps.
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>>340030342
if people are clamoring for new content already then it probably means the base game is boring af
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>>340030693
Except most people aren't doing that.
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>>340030693
>if people are clamoring for new content already
Name three people clamoring for new content.
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I actually hoped they would add some new content while it was still in beta. The game, though fun, is pretty small. I mean you can go through all the content in a hour or so, damn.
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>>340028857
those characters are pandering to retarded teenagers so much I want to vomit
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>mfw the first major 'content' release will be 1 map and like 20 skins
>ha ha don't forget to purchase some loot boxes to play dress up with your favourite waifu!
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>>340030046
>wanting mods in a competitive team based shooter

I personally dont give a shit and would rather not have to deal with the inevitable exploit mods
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>>340029642
We'll see who falls for this.
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>community servers
>muh Temple of Anubis 24/7 fast respawn
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>>340030950
>I actually hoped they would add some new content while it was still in beta.
They added a bunch of characters while it was in beta
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It's Blizzard. They'll survive on brand loyalty.
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>SJWs get massive buttmad about Tracer having an ass
>ignore the fact that the only two japs in the game are actual ninjas and the korean plays starcraft
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>>340031325
>not having god-tier luck
Level 30, ~9 legendary skins
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>>340031219
Battleborn friend detected
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>>340029797
>when you mash your keyboard angrily too much at internet boogyemen
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>>340028857
You don't understand the Blizzard model. They sold the game to people at full price. That's it, they're done, the in-game purchases are insignificant secondary revenue. People will lose interest in the game before the year is over and it'll be safe to pull the plug on online functionality.
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>>340032464
>pull the plug on online functionality
this is how i know you're trollin
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>>340032161
Koreans play Starcraft dude. You're reaching with that particular one.
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>>340032612
Koreans haven't played Starcraft since 2011.
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>>340028857
Overwatch is a 7/10 game for kids

They added a Cash Shop, so you can be sure it is a dead game anyway
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>>340028857
muh MLG e-sports scene!
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>>340028857
I agree let's have some pony mods
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>>340032464
screen capped for proving literally objectively wrongness in 1 year.

Yeah, im sure blizzard is going to pull the plug on its first new IP in 17 years. /yawn
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>>340030758
Me. I'm tired of playing the same maps over and over again. More maps is all I want though, I dont care if blizzard makes them or if they make community servers with custom maps.

If they release a $15 dlc map pack with 5 maps in it then I'm never playing the game again. Fuck that shit.
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>>340032267
Level 45 here, 5 of them. One of them is Punk tracer.

I want to die.
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>>340029797
>battleborn shill tries to project
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>>340033000
Trip dubs!
Fun fact: Trip dubs only happen once every 11.000K posts. The average posts per day on 4chan is 2 million a day for a total of 32 million a month!
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>>340029797
>Randy this desperate
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>no skin mods
>no genderbent models
>no Touhou revamps
>all the SFM porn is getting removed

why does Blizzard hate fun
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>>340030758
my friend
this guy >>340033000
your mom
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>>340032267
>Level 50
>2 Legendaries
For some reason the game just LOVES to keep throwing duplicate shitty sprays for Widow at me.

Like, just fuck off. I'm not going to play that boring, shitty hero when I have Rein, Mei, and Mercy to piss people off with.
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>>340029983
>7 million units sold in 1 week.

Yes and?
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>>340030183
Your rebuttal was retarded becase you basically say
>well mod support didn't matter since it didn't have it day one LOL

>>340031425
Yes you prefer no content instead.
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Maybe if they removed that retarded fucking Forced 50 the game would be decent to play
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>>340033884
>For some reason the game just LOVES to keep throwing duplicate shitty sprays for Widow at me.

it's intentionally designed that way to make you want to buy chests
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>>340034203
good thing I'm already accustomed to the crippling disappointment that is League of Legend's embarassment of a crate system, and will never spend a cent on boxes from any game.
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>>340028857
>it's been out a week
>'DOA!'
>'IT WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS TF2!'

Why is /v/ so desperate for good games to die?
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>>340033884
Given the gathered data about lootboxes that's actually literally as unlucky as it's possible to be. You can't go more than 25 boxes before the game just throws you a bone and gives you a guaranteed legendary drop.

So, yeah, for only two legendaries at L50 you got about as shafted as is possible. Ouch.
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>>340034161
as in if the game didn't have a shitty match making system we all decided was a shit system for an FPS back during MW2? why do they still push this shit
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>>340034161
>Forced 50
I wonder when this meme will end and you shitstains will take responsibility for your losses. Jesus fucking christ, you act like you have zero agency in whether you win or lose the game. Either get better or shut the fuck up.
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>>340033884
>I'm not going to play that boring, shitty hero
It's dumb you allowed the possibility of skin drops influencing your character picks in the first place. I mean, there's always that guy who plays the character he sucks at just because he got a crapshoot legendary but literally what the fuck
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>>340034120
Never said didn't matter, hell all I said was tf2 didn't have mods straight off the bat, although it is more modder friendly. Nice try at grasping for straws to comeback
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>>340029601
>>340028857
Game is not even out for 2 weeks fucking cucks
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>>340028857
>ActiBlizz
>giving any kind of control to the community
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>>340030758
yes I'm definitely clamouring
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>>340034749
which is why its going to be shit. they're trying to DMCA the porn now too.
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>>340033204
cool
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>>340034576
>not even out for 2 weeks
>people already getting bored because blizzard has such a tight leash on how much fun you can squeeze out of the game, you have to wait for blizzard mandated fun patches
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>>340034836
>that's a bad thing
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Can anyone actually prove the
>Forced 50
or is everyone just salty because of their loses?
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>>340034990
>being a puritan cuck
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>>340035002
Go check your win/loss rate right now.
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>>340034291
it's call guaranteed replies, anon
>OP makes outlandish claim
>dozens of rational people come to tell OP he's an idiot
>OP thinks he's popular because people showed up in his thread
kill yourself, OP
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>>340035002

Forced 50 is the standard practice for pretty much all team-based games.

Can't leave the shit players in the dust, it's bad for business, goy.
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Why is there a competitive mode when it has even less depth and skill than tf2. Seems they are getting ahead of themselves. Pubs seem fun though
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>>340035842
Because eSports are no meassured by the quality or depth of a game but how flashy and marketeable it is.
Why do you thing the League hype came from past season 3?
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>>340034526
what?

I just don't like Widow. The game throwing shitty sprays and her worst skins at me isn't influencing the fact that I still don't like Widow.

Now if the game was to throw literally everything but Reinhardt's legendaries at me, THEN I'd be upset.
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>>340035002
I'm salty as fuck about Forced 50, simply because I KNOW I didn't lose to good teams for a lot of them.

a good 20% of my losses are on KOTH Ilios from teammates dominating the game, then deciding we need Widowmakers that never enter to contest the zone is a good idea.
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>>340034314
>level 25
>1 legendary
I'm fucked aren't I
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>>340028857
TF2 needs mods because it lacks variety. When was the last class added? When blizzard starts pumping out characters there will be no question which game has more variety.

F2P communities are almost always cancer as well.
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>>340030342
>>340030259
When was the last character reveal or map reveal? Like Feb or March?
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>>340035002
>>340036229
>people thinking forced 50 is real

Lmao holy shit, I've been in Dota 2 generals for years and this shit is so funny.

>ME OOGA, TEAM BOOGA
>when I win I deserve it, when I lose it's because of muh team / forced 50%
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>>340036251
When did you get it? If you got it at L25, then yeah. If you got it before then, well, maybe not.

I got one legendary around 12-13 and didn't see any more until at least 30 - but that box had two, so it was okay. Since then I've more or less normalized, although I think I still haven't seen a legendary in fewer than 10 boxes so my luck is below average.
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>>340036504
Do not pay attention to the shill.
Forced 50 is one of the oldest mechanics in LoL matchmaking and every pro above diamond has a 170/169 or so w/r.
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>>340028857
Call me when there's a custom server with this map
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>>340036656
fuck, I want to play tf2
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>>340034161
>forced 50

Just leave any shit matches you're in. No reason at all to stay.
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This is so entertaining, watching fags screaming left and right how the game is weak and has no chance of long term survival, even though it's already obvious it has already became succesfull.

>durr i know the game will fail in a month
>hurr i'm /vro, i'm better than blizzard in predicting that

mfw reading through all the hysteria
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>>340036821
Easy XP. If the match starts going to shit, I just swap to someone I'm bad at and start practicing.

Plus, when I tried that shit the first few days, I got that shitty leaver penalties.
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>>340036821
Is there actually any penalty in Overwatch for leaving?

Wouldn't it just count as a loss?
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>>340036821
Leaving matches after the hero select phase imposes a queue time penalty and an XP penalty towards your next game. Don't do it.

If you get queue'd into a losing game you're even supposed to be getting backfill bonus XP but it seems that may or may not be working right now.

>>340036925
>just swap to someone I'm bad at and start practicing.
This man gets it.
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>>340036656
>tfw get sniped everytime I drive the tank
I just want to have fun
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>>340036504
Forced 50 is real.
However to surprass it you need to apply superior skill consistently in every single match you play, but even then you will still lose a good chunk of your matches, especially in games like Overwatch and Dota where your team actually matters.
It's not like in CoD where one guy can farm a bunch of shitters, get a nuke and auto win.
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>>340036331
If you think TF2 needs more classes you don't get the game at all.
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>>340036925
>Easy XP

Who cares? To get some more shitty sprays, avatars or a recolor?

>>340036939
>Is there actually any penalty in Overwatch for leaving?

After a couple of abandons you get a -75% xp gain for a set time, that's it.

>>340036991
>Leaving matches after the hero select phase imposes a queue time penalty and an XP penalty towards your next game. Don't do it.

When I play there is no queue time penalty, only XP penalty, which I couldn't care less about.
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>>340036331
>When was the last class added?

Does chess needs more pieces?

Overwatch isn't entirely balanced around a set numbers of classes. In fact the balance is a mess and the entire system revoloves around counterpicking your enemies and picking around your team.
It's not like in a MOBA where you have to dedicate yourself to a hero pick, you can change hero at any time.
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>>340036939
There is a penalty. You end up with these really shitty queue times, and I dunno what else, since I just took a break after the first one popped.

I'm assuming that when Ranked starts up, it'll also fuck your MMR if you leave too much.

>>340036504
F50 is real, you shitter.

how else would, barring massive outliers, players trend to 50%?

Even when I spam my shittiest characters, after 5 or so losses, i'll start a win spree thanks to getting players and opponents that are miles better/worse respectively.

>>340037127
I like to imagine that the different loadouts in TF2 comprise the different classes, with different playstyles. Bomb-demo vs Sword-demo, and the like.

>>340037175
>Who cares?

You DO realize that XP is pretty much all we have to work towards right now? Why would I leave, and take XP penalties, when I can just take that time to sit through and practice my wallriding on Lucio, or how to actually not give myself motionsickness on the cancer that is Tracer?
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>community servers
Since you are mentioning TF2, have you SEEN the state of community servers there? Dodgy advertisements everywhere asking you to enable the fucking HTML motd or you get kicked, and if you make the mistake of not forcefully blocking them via hostsfile then you must sit through half a minute of an ad for Kleenex every round. Advertisements aside, 1% of community servers are actually standard no-bullshit rotation, the rest is trade_minecraft, cp_orange and 32 man 24/7 single map servers. And since the game is free the community is a cesspit of children and slavshit hackers to boot. All trading did was further fill it with narcissists

>muh mods

It's a competitive game and the only thing you'll be able to do if ever is modify existing skins that only you and others with the mod will see.

Like how TF2 blocks all non-pure materials whenever you play on the in-shambles competitive mode
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>>340037330
>You DO realize that XP is pretty much all we have to work towards right now?

I don't care about the pointless cosmetics where 98% of them are bad. Especially when you can't even see the recolors or legendaries apart from at the victory screens (which I don't even watch).
If they implemented a worthwhile progression system then maybe I'll start to care about XP, but as it stands I couldn't care less.
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>>340036331
Even Blizzard acknowledged that TF2 variety is about weapon sets,not classes.With different sets you get pretty much a different class. Overwatch simplifies this by making a new Hero from scratch.
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>>340036331
>TF2 needs mods because it lacks variety.

It has a bunch of equips for each class in the game that change their gameplay significantly, you have so much variety in trying out different combinations.
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Ever notice how people that claim there is a forced 50% are also the people who complain like retards when they loose?
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>>340037423
>it's a competitive game

Lol
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>>340037592
>if I use a meme arrow and make a quirky response, I am correct
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>>340037437
well, seeing as how I've been shafted on getting unlocks for the characters I want, I care about XP and getting these "pointless cosmetics".

So, you can go ahead and fuck off with your high and mighty ideas of this shit not mattering. You're the minority, and, honestly, nobody gives a fuck about the minority.
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>>340037518
>Ever notice how people that claim there is a forced 50% are also the people who complain like retards when they loose?

Forced 50 is real in the sense that game game tries to balance both teams in terms of skill. No idea how people can't realize this.
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>>340037330
>F50 is real, you shitter.

It really isn't.

It's a coping mechanism for players who can't fathom the fact that they're not high impact or are just flat out bad. This is why you see so much team blaming, but never any 'gee I sure got carried that match' posts.

>how else would, barring massive outliers, players trend to 50%?

Maybe if you play solo it's reasonable for there to be a 50/50 chance you will get competent players or shitty ones, there's no deep underlying algorithm that wil ensure you win or lose, that's just fucking moronic.

I have a 72% winrate after 252 games only queing with one other, sometimes 2 other people or alone.

Do you think maybe you're just an average player who gets average winrates anon? Of course you won't admit to it.
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>>340037663
>So, you can go ahead and fuck off with your high and mighty ideas of this shit not mattering. You're the minority, and, honestly, nobody gives a fuck about the minority.

Sorry I hurt your feelings princess.
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>>340037423
How can it be competitive when it's been out for two weeks?
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>>340033204
the two zeros after the 34 don't count as dubs retard.
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>>340037727

Back when I used to play assfaggots (LoL) this is basically what happened.

>win 3 games in a row
>get team that can barely ward and top or mid goes 0/5 in 15 minutes.
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>>340028857
There's only one bad thing with this game and that is the tick rate. I don't need more MLP servers, TF2 had enough of those. Keep the cancer out.
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>>340037175
>After a couple of abandons you get a -75% xp gain for a set time, that's it.
Actually you have to fix your matches finished/quit ratio. It's brutal unless if you grind AI fights.
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>>340034472

>matched with same level players for 2 hours, get on win streak
>suddenly matched with entire teams of players double my level

Uh-huh. Sure no forced 50 blizz shill.
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>>340037727
>>340037784

>Forced 50 is real in the sense that game game tries to balance both teams in terms of skill
This. So much this.

If the game realizes I'm an absolute shitter trying to play Tracer, tanking my winrates, the system will trend towards giving me better teammates/worse opponents to try and balance things.

>I have a 72% winrate after 252 games only queing with one other, sometimes 2 other people or alone.

Ever think you're an outlier? Or the fact that multi-queuing has ALWAYS fucked with matchmaking and trying to balance games? Communication with people you know, and play with, generally lends itself to rather large advantages.

Hell, when I was 6-stacking, I went on a 40 win spree over 2 days. Now, I'm playing these fucking tournament meta Double McCree/Winston comps like crazy. Yet if I party up with my shitter friend that doesn't play, we run the full gamut of "what the fuck" in games.
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>>340038010
>Actually you have to fix your matches finished/quit ratio. It's brutal unless if you grind AI fights.

Good thing I don't care about cosmetics or XP.
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>>340028857
>Hey, welcome to our server which has thirty seconds of adverts and the chat is spammed with our useless information!
>Good thing

>TF2 didn't have mods for years.

Neither of these matter, especially so early in the game's life.
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>>340029642
That's probably the wisest advice in the thread though. Playing the same game for 5 years looks to me like missing a lot of opportunities.
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>>340038045
>win a bunch of games
>mmr goes up
>get matched into higher mmr
>lose because you're not actually as good as new mmr indicates
>mmr goes down
It's almost like it's just a normal matchmaking system and you have an inflated sense of your own ability.
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>>340038141
I was only correcting misinformation.
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>>340035002
People will anecdotally bitch about games past that they felt they "carried" but sadly couldn't meek out a victory. However, the matchmaking where you join in on a losing game and have the loss count to your profile can be irritating (need backfill/loss prevention on that).
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>>340038171
This is what Forced 50 is, you dumb cunt.

If you're winning too much, you play better opponents, and, conversely, have worse teammates, dragging your winrate down. It eventually leads to a 50% winrate.
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>>340038171
Idiot, understand that at higher mmr's you're forced to play against pre-mades even if you're soloing, and there's no way to fight that in this watered down team game.
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>>340033637
>no Touhou revamps
This makes me sad.
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Daily reminder that if you use a mic to relay the enemy's position to your team, you're doing a great job and are far better an asset than your usual silent player

Stop being shy, faggots
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>>340028857

>PCMR shitposting to be contrarian
>Forgetting the game has two console ports

It's not going to die just because it's on both consoles. According to the amount of bitching Halo gets I guess Overwatch became the best multiplayer FPSes for both, because they never exactly had any choice.
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>>340037784
You can't actually 100% ensure 50% w/l, but you can influence games.

If you want to say that a "fair game" is one where the mmr difference is less 10% in each team, you can stack the other team with some mmr much higher than yours, and maybe 1 turbo shitter and still have the mmr's be similar.
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>>340028857
>I cannot play/enjoy a game unless I can change it
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>>340034203
Doesn't explain why others getting good shit. The system is definitely not true random, it doesn't seem to be intentionally rigged for lootboxes
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>>340038679
Variety is the spice of life, anon.
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>>340038171
Your argument would be true if the system always matched completely equally skilled players with one another, but it doesn't.
It generally matches 1-3 good players with 4-2 bad ones.
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>>340037784
>I have a 72% winrate after 252 games only queing with one other, sometimes 2 other people or alone.
Have you considered the fact that you might be better than most players?
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>>340038734
>Doesn't explain why others getting good shit. The system is definitely not true random, it doesn't seem to be intentionally rigged for lootboxes

Probably like Valve chests where getting rare stuff is super rare.
I'm talking over 1/250 chance.
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>>340029801
im not sure what this means, you can adjust sensitivity in the game options
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ITT: F50 deniers

Here's a thought, for those still sane enough to read this post after that bait opening, how about we stop pushing statistics based "fun" into our games and instead go back to more organic, social "fun" in our games?
Like having a regular hangout where everyone knows your name etc. With some basic admin features to weed out shitters and retards for friends to hop in, and so on.

Y'know, like the old days? No more bitching about the matchmaker and retarded teammates there then.
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>>340038892
I was talking about variable chances of getting rares depending on the previous openings
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>>340038837
>Have you considered the fact that you might be better than most players?

You're literally supporting my point.
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>>340029797
>nobody plays it
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>>340037784
Post profile link or it's just bullshit.
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>>340039038
I'm a different guy. Forced 50 is real though. There are exceptions for very good players like you, but in most cases getting better will just promote you to a better players bracket. The systems are pretty much the same for ranked and unranked, you just don't know what MMR you are in unranked plays
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>>340038837

>only queing with 1/3rd, sometimes half the team

No shit sherlock.
This is why 6v6 by default and finding custom games is impossible in this game, a matchmaker to try and retain players by making retards feel like winners at least half the time.

You should be allowed to get a single digit win rating, like as a basic human right, or the entire system is too obviously playing you as a product to be owned.
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>>340029983
>7 million units sold in 1 week.
There are some indie games that have achieved this. Stop acting like 7 million between 3 platforms is anything special. It is actually somewhat low for a game as promoted as this.
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>>340038837
Sorry, I misquoted you anon. My bad.
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>>340039283
I forgive you
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>>340039218
>There are some indie games that have achieved this
Okay, I'll bite. Name one. Hell, name one that achieved half of that in 1 week.
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>>340039481
Undertale. Your move.
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>>340039501
I'm not interested in meme-battles
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>>340028857
Offensive: mccree, reaper
Defensive: hanzo
Tank: roadhog,reinhart
Support: Mercy
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>mfw Overwatch will die before TF2 will ever be.

Enjoy your 40 bucks.
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>>340039501
I know this is bait but Undertale achieved nowhere near 7 million. The only one I can think of is Minecraft.
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>>340039218
>Stop acting like 7 million between 3 platforms is anything special
It is a lot, for a new IP and not something like GTA V.

>>340039501
Undertale hasn't even reached 2m on Steam right now.
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>match premades with solo players
>give the premades an exp boost
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>>340028857
>caring
Why do people make 685845 threads about how overwatch will die? Go play some games you like already. Or create threads about games you like, you bitter fucks.
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>>340039501
>Undertale

hohohoho, undertalefags are THIS delusional?
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>>340039756
When Minecraft started to sell it wasn't even near modern levels of popularity. I doubt infdev sold 7 million in 1 week or 1 month.
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>>340039927
Whoops, misread his post then.
In that case literally no indie has achieved that
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>>340039218
>There are some indie games that have achieved this.
Like?
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>>340040042
Bad Rats
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>>340040073
Touche
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>>340038983
This is exactly why I want a server browser.
The current state of the game just feels too antisocial, there's almost no interaction other than some bantz with a random you'll never see again
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What would you do with Mercy as your slave?

There was another SFM Mercy bondage picture posted earlier but I stupidly didn't save it.
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