This is a 1998 PC game
really makes u think...
>>339977184
I never finished that one, how was it?
>>339977265fun
>>339977184
>enrique the gay pirate, susan the blonde bimbo, some bitch that really doesn't want to be there right now, and edwin's older brother
I fucking love Might and Magic and its goofy setting.
The 80s truly were a magical time.
>bows, the game
>>339977265
its like diablo in 1st person and open world
dem slutty mm8 dark elves
>>339977775
>first town has no bow trainers
>1998 was 35 years ago
>>339977825
not at all
>>339977986
how its not? you fight hordes of enemies all the time
>>339977184
>>339977928
>People born in 1998 are old enough to post on 4chan
>>339978437
>people born in 1945 are old enough to post on 4chan
Is World of Xeen worth playing?
>>339979047
Yes.
>>339978071
Diablo is all about loot and randomly generated dungeons while MM focuses on exploration
>>339978591
>people born can post on 4chan
>>339979668
>people can be born
>>339979256
Does it offer anything over the other games?
>>339977184
A pretty fun one too.
Never beat it, always got lost but I still loved it.
>>339979976
Exploration, puzzles, two worlds.
This is a 1993 PC game.and a damn good one too.
>>339980491
I will play this someday. How bad are the controls?
>>339980660
Just like most older games it's kinda awkward at first, but you get the hang of it pretty quickly.
so this... is the power... of the PC...
>>339980491
1992
>>339980784
>that awkward period where console games looked better than PC games
>>339977184
This is a 1992 NES game.
>>339980660
If you ever played System Shock 1, it's like that but a bit worse. Nothing unmanageable though. Just make sure you read the manual to learn how to use the default cursor for everything instead of the specific ones on the left side of the screens.
>>339979769
>people
we having this thread again? okay
World of Xeen is best Might and Magic you plebs!
Fight me irl!
>>339981036
This is a 1992Macintoshgame
>>339981036
woah...
>>339981196
give me tips for this game
>>339981489
Keep playing until you win
How can we make dungeon crawlers popular again?
>>339981378
This is Literally Me.
>>339981378
Where are the pixels?
>>339981798
actually buy them for starters
>>339981305
Thanks for the late night raffs guise
Dungeon crawlers looked dull to me till I actually picked up Etrian Odyssey yes and loved them. What others should I play? A great soundtrack is a big plus. Eases the repetition.
>in before blobbers
>>339982453
Do you want turn based or realtime ones? Grid based or no?
>>339978373
Apparently this is something like an MTG tbs? Sounds tempting
This is a "PC" game from 2004
>>339980660
It was made before WASD was standard. That's really the problems with most games in the early to mid 90's. Since there wasn't standards yet so for a lot of people it's hard to get into them since how everything controls doesn't line up to how you play nowadays. But once you get an idea on the basic controls you should be fine.
>>339982859
It's also worse than its predecessor.
>tfw been playing older PC/Dos games recently
There's just something special about older PC games with bad control schemes.
>>339982859
And now I can run it on my Atom 2 in 1.
Glorious.
THE MANDATE OF FUCKIN SHIT UP
might and magic 6 might look kind of silly but it kicks the ever loving shit out of todays RPGs
>>339982671
No preference. Mostly enjoyed EO for the sense of exploration and building my party. Its also nice when the stats/buffs are somewhat intuitive. Referencing a guide sometimes ain't bad. I just don't like Needing to pour over a guide to explain systema that could/should have been explained in game
>>339981489
you can win the game with the standart party but if i remember correctly the knight is totaly overpowered.
klick enemies until they die.
dont die yourself.
give all of your party members a bow.
dont forget to equip your characters with items. you dont see the item stats but you see the effect of the items on your character sheets (its an old rpg).
save often. this is an oldschool rpg. traps are unfair, monsters are unfair and everyone in the world hates your guts.
savescum mining.
[/spoiler] git gud [/spoiler]
>>339983940
and like in every other m&m you need a sorc in your party if this is your first playthrough for cast light and all seeing eye.
>>339983475
MM6 is gridless and easy to get into and you don't have to do a lot of manual reading to figure out the systems. Grimrock 2 is good if you want a modern realtime dungeon crawler. I recommend avoiding the wizardry games until you are more experienced with dungeon crawlers. They definitely require you to read through the manuals and are pretty tough.
>>339977535
MM always had the best portraits. Well, after it started to have portraits, I mean.
This is the best 1998 game.
this is a 1997 PC game
>>339981196
But Sheltem is my true lord and commander in a totally no homo way.
This is aBETRAYAL
>>339984494
This is Ultima IX if it was good
>>339979769
>people can make other people pregnant via an act of intimacy
>>339984494
I genuinely want to play Ultima 8 because the edgy grimdark story sounds strangely fun.
>>339984772
Huh, so that's how that works?
>>339977184
This is a 2000 PC game.
>>339977184
beautiful
>>339984721
Have the guys remaking u9 with Morrowind said anything lately?
>>339984903
The platforming is shit, but the story actually is interesting. If only it wasn't rushed
aside from underworld,1/2 what's the best Ultima game?
>>339984494
Is sp00ny still relevant?
fa/tg/uy here, when he isn't forgotten he is widely ridiculed there. Some guy keeps res-posting the same img of him with lines from his 5th ed review.
>>339985004
This is a 2001 PC game
>>339985207
He's actually livestreaming footage for an upcoming review on Chronicles of Mystara on his channel right now
What is it about early 3d PC games that is so damn comfy?
>>339984721
Whats a paladin?
>>339982983
>download key rebinder
>suddenly a lot better experience
Sometimes it's necessary.
Don't know how it is done in Ultima Underworld, but Looking Glass Studios games had a weird default control scheme in games like System Shock or Thief where you had the standard wasd and x for moving backwards which made the whole thing pretty unintuitive. I figure you'd have to use a third party program to rebind the keyboard to something less awkward to use.
>>339984121
>I recommend avoiding the wizardry games
Its like you hate fun
>>339977184
Betrayal at Krondor (93) and Betrayal in Antara (97) are both better
>>339977184
This is a 2016 PC rpg.
>>339985470
I'm not entirely sure
This is a 1997 PC game.
>>339985596
Tribes is better than both of those
>>339984903
That game had such a potential. The premise is amazing, but unfortunately the game was rushed out the door.
>>339985776
And Street fighter III is better than tribes.
I sure do love comparing genres that have nothing to do whit one another.
>>339984351
That's not
>Baldurs Gate
>Brood War
>Fallout 2
>Unreal
Dang looking at all the games from 1998 that was a really good year
>>339985473
Been a while since I've played those games but if I remember A and D was more for turning than strafing. And it really only was around the late 80's early 90's when developers started making games with mouse in mind. So they were still trying to understand how to make games with a mouse.
Honestly I love that. Back when standards wasn't a thing so everyone was trying to make games with their own way of controlling thinking it's the best way to do it.
Ultima Underworld is the best of these sort of games, either that or Wizardy 8
>>339986129
You forgot Thief
>you will never play Ultima Underworld for the first time again
a-at least we have underworld ascendant coming out soon right?
>>339986425
haha
>>339985368
The giant cluttered UIs are like a big hug.
>>339985368
less screen space?
>>339985596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60Hnh4-v6E
>>339985368
> Not mid-late 2D
>>339986850
goddamn that music I should play it again
>>339986653
It was platonic love at first sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f5MpBhqD88
Getting out of that fucking Soul Maze was satisfying as fuck in the first game.
>>339978071
By that description doom is also like diablo.
But in any other description they are totally unlike one another.
this is a x
picture of y
this is a PS3 game
>>339987419
let me post another time so I can post a pic of my dick and write "your mother's food"
>>339982993
I don´t know who you are or what you do but I instantly love you.
Is Amiga the definitive way to experience dungeon crawlers?
>>339987583
>let me post another time so I can post a pic of my dick and write "your mother's food"
sorry i insulted your meme
>>339977184
>this is a redundant thread
>>339977184
Got this game in '03 and dropped it like a sack of anvils when I realized you can't see your weapons
>>339987697
Pretty much. Why pick anything else when Amiga Ishar's graphics will make sweet love to your eyes?
>>339988062
I have never seen someone mention Ishar games on /v/ before. Weird, because I don't think there was anything wrong with them and considering a whole trilogy was made it's bamboozling why it's never recommended or mentioned in rare dungeon crawling threads we have occasionally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60Hnh4-v6E
This is a 2002 PC game.
>>339988708
Now THIS is a fun game. Just started playing this and Ultima Underworld on gog, and my God, we need dungeon crawlers like these to make a resurgence.
>>339985368
>comfy
taste really is subjective
>>339987265
totaly forgot how awesome this was...
>>339988708
is this arx fatalis?
This is a 2016/2017 PS4 game. #4theplayers
>>339989086
Yeah
>>339987974
You should have figured that out when you were playing as a party of 4 people.
>>339986653
>we will never get games that start by introducing the main characters like they were some well-known celebrities ever again
Fuck this gay earth. This never fails to make me smile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTBIYOtK-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5XjRBTEpU
>>339988708
It's too bad Arkane is Bethesda's bitch now.
Are any of the Wizardry games playable (reasonably, for a first time player) without graph paper notes and shit? I want to jump in and have fun without it being a huge burden.
>>339989962
the mm5 intro was the best of the series
>Alamar you misguided mechanism! You'll destroy us all!
>HAHAHAHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vLSoU0E07M
>>339990624
Try out 4.
>>339990624
Start with Might and Magic 3 instead. I think wiz8 is the only one with an automapper and the game is tough.
>>339990885
Don't turn him away from dungeon crawlers forever
>>339990624
You should probably start from 6 onwards, 1-5, and especially 4, might be a bit much if you are not used to such games.
>>339978437
>I started lurking 4chan aged 13 (now turning 21)
>people born in 2003 are now old enough to shitpost on 4chan
>>339990885
Oh, you
>>339981798
pander to lonely otakufags, oh wait thats what every DC does on the Vita
>>339990730
This, and the intro of Clouds is the reason I badly wanted them to make a Might and Magic point and click adventure.
>tongue in cheek humor - check
>terrible voice acting - check
>amazing pixel art - check
>good puzzle design in the game - check
But oh well. It's a shame you miss out on both intros if you play World of Xeen instead.
>>339990624
Nah.
You can make your maps digitally, though.
>>339991516
Seriously, though, Demon Gaze is a boring piece of shit with wonky character designs, unlikable personalities, and a really shitty story. On top of all of that, there's no real sense of adventure, and even what atmosphere it has is fucked in the ear when you read player messages. After the 50th "*huff* Fran" I just dropped it
>>339990157
every might and magic winter themed track is so comfy
>>339977775
They balanced bows in future games.
In 7 and 8 not everyone can be xXeLiTeSnIpErXx420. Hell you're lucky if you can make expert if you are not a weapon based class.
Name sone non weebshit japanese dungeon crawlers
>inb4 dark souls
>>339992135
play through M&M 1-7 and Wizardry 1-8
>>339992135
King's Field
Etrian Odyssey, in that you only see your characters in battle
Shin Megami Tensei
and that's all I can think of right now
>>339985473
I think it came from the fact that they were also working on aircraft simulators and shit.
Speaking of early 2000's PC games, there's one I remember playing as a kid but can't remember what it actually was.
I played it around 2004, I think, not sure when it came out.You had to choose a type (I remember skeletons and elementals were two) for your army/state, build up your city state and go out and conquer other areas. When you beat an enemy you could make units and structures based on your enemy's type. Think it was a 4X game.
Anyone remember it? I've been trying to find it for years but can't seem to remember it.
>>339981798
Innovative dungeon design
More original traps and puzzles
Make it feel like an adventure, not a chore
Include the need for ropes, lanterns, picks, stones, 10-foot pole etc.
Develop a decent combat system that is neither too mechanical nor too arcadey
Monsters that make sense in a ecological view
Interesting loot that makes sense, so no legendary armor in a normal room while the big boss room holds 12 gold pieces
The tech is there to take what was great about dungeon crawlers in the past and elevate them to a better level
>>339992135
Dark Spire retro mode
Strange Journey to a lesser degree, totally worth it for that HUMANITY FUCK YEAH GOD BLESS AMERICA route though.
>>339992243
>Wizardry 1-8
select the best two games and I'll play them
>>339992481
>Dark Spire
My black acquaintance. Dark Spire is GOAT.
>>339981798
Have only one player character, the rest of your party are companions. Then make sure every area is chock full of party banter. This is not a novel idea for dungeon crawlers, but I feel many rpg players are discouraged by how impersonal and soulless your party feels in most dungeon crawlers.
>>339992545
Play the dark savant trilogy
>>339992135
Shadow Tower Abyss
Aw shit man. I don't know who started these stealth pc dungeon crawler games but I got that itch
Best moment early on.
>Ironfist Temple Of Baa
>Make your way to the main cathedral hall
> Hit up the altar and grab the gong
> SUDDENLY SKELETONS EVERYWHERE
and thats how I discovered the secret passageway in the back. Also FUCK THE LAIR OF THE WOLF. Fucking furfag lords and their instakill strikes.
>>339986527
UA looks great though.
>>339980660
It controls good, I was playing it for a while last year and when I went to play CSGO I kept hitting x to step back cause I thought I was playing underworld still
This is a 1996 PC MMORPG
Anyone got a mega for this?
This is a 1999 pc game
>>339993690
Pass me what you're smoking
>>339994229
I could compress it and upload the GOG installer for you after I get back from thegym
>>339994157
>Meridian
Aw bitch. It always felt like Daggerfall: The MMO. I fucking love it.
>>339994573
Sure m8
>>339994652
http://openmeridian.org/
>>339994652
>>339994732
Alternatively https://www.meridiannext.com/
dont open this image
Doom RPG is the best mobile dungeon crawler
>>339984494
Lord British is dead and stay dead.
>>339994732
>>339994835
MY DICK
How's the playerbase? Are there enough people, or is it mostly deserted?
>>339977265
Fucking fantastic, one of my favorite games to date.
>>339985154
Ultima 7.
>>339990885
>>339994732
>>339994835
which servers are the most active? or are the official ones?
>>339995031
the second one (server 105, first one is 103) seems to have more players. There's also a German server (112) http://meridian59.de/
They basically all use the same code base (since the game is open source now)
>>339995178
There isn't really an 'official' server anymore. They released the source code and closed down
Also there's a launcher/updater that lets you choose between the three servers and their configurations. You can also choose between the classic client and the new Ogre client. I still prefer the classic one
>>339994964
>>339992545
SNES of 1-3 is pretty fun. There's a spell that lets you see the map that you are uncovering. PSX of 1-3 has a button for just seeing the map so you don't have to deal with wasting spells.
They are still annoyingly hard. and you might want to save state before leveling because you normally lose stats
This is a reboot of the old franchise that was made by Lord British himself.
>>339995445
Is there a way to extract the portraits from MM6?
>>339995008
Doom RPG was incredible
I was on NG+ something crazy like 10-12
Is there any way to play it today? I tried last year to emulate it but it didn't work
>>339995890
I think you can emulate it with some java program. You just need doom rpg.jar
>>339996057
The problem is finding the actual .jar legit, I looked everywhere and every one was either corrupted or on a fucked up dodgy website
>just installed and started M&M6 on my PC
>power supply dies
>pretty sure it shorted out because not enough power coming to my new room, which I found out as it kept turning off randomly for a while
>don't know enough to be able to tell if I need to get the exact same model or what model I can replace it with
>even if I do it'll probably get fucked
>>339996284
Dungeon crawler truly is the most hardcore RPG subgenre
>>339996284
Get a 600w, if you know nothing about internals something basic like a corsair cx600
>>339996503
I have a 600w, thermaltake. It's actually a replacement of another one that just died a month ago, but that was after many years of service and before I moved into this new room.
>those old dungeon crawlers where you had to track your steps with pencil and paper
>>339996983
I liked it how Legend of Grimrock gave you a compass and the choice to turn off in-game mapping.
God, the second game was amazing.
>>339996983
>that dungeon crawler that had a rotating map
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB BETHESDA
>>339987693
Just doing my part and enlightening the plebs on the best Total War game nobody played.
>>339986198
No I didn't.
>>339997652
Faggot.
>>339996942
I'd recommend going 100w over what you actually need, PSUs don't cost that much as they go up but it's better than taking a risk.
>>339997680
1v1 me fag
>>339996983
My only problem are the secret areas. Played Phantasy Star a few years ago and don't remember how you are meant to find those. Outside of just running into every wall hoping for the best.
>>339997218
I really would love to play it but I really hate real time Dungeon Crawlers. Feel they are best played in turn based.
>>339997761
I'd win let's do it
>>339997842
this is a 2014 ps4 game
>>339977184
>this is a 2015 pc game
Best intro coming through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjCuYXnyYkw
>>339977184
Looks like shit, to be quite honest, family.
>2004 was 50 years ago
>>339980961
pc were way more expensive too
>>339998729
>2016 was 2016 years ago
This is a 2045 PC game
>/v/ talking about something other than witcher or bethesda games
Brings a tear to my eye.
>>339998514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f9JXA9F6_A
>>339980491
>tfw learning lizardman speak with the mute prisoner
>>339985658
Post character template, faggot.
>>339998921
>The year of our Lord Anno Domini 0 was 2 million and 16 years ago
>>339985220
and it's the fucking bomb! brb reinstallin'
This is a 2000 RPG
>>339999959
I was just thinking about continuing this earlier today. It's just such a pain having to switch between the party because the AI is kind of dumb with their abilities.
>>339978373
YES YES MWHAHAHAHWas the expansion any good
>>339999308
Of my Apostate Edgemaster? No way.
I really appreciated the game's sense of humor when it assigned a motherfucking Crusader to me as a companion.
>>340000375
I'm disappointed you didn't make a party of half naked orcs. If you're gonna play a gay game you might as well go all the way.
>>340001307
I might be tempted to do that if the game was actually gay, but it's rather family friendly even compared to most games out there. So recruiting defeated monsters is more fun. A shame I couldn't seal the deal with the giant worm.
I find it fucking hilarious that there is an option to switch between the naked and not-naked title art, but no option to change the resolution. The dev truly had his priorities straight.
>>339977184
This is a Skynet...
>>339997950
Naughty dog
>>340001765
Play his homo fantasy football game next
>>340002963
Kek. Soccer or handegg?
Nah, but really, I was only curious about this game because some people compared it to Geneforge, which I fucking loved.
>>340001823
kek
