Bullet sponge simulator 2016
>>339962805
Seems like you never used the chaingun, gauss cannon or super shotgun.
Upgrade your weapons.
Also enemies being bullet sponges isn't a problem when you can just stay on the move and chip away at them. Bullet sponges are annoying when your movement is shit and all you can do is shuffle around waiting for the enemies to die.
>>339962805
You clearly never played the game.
>>339963824
It was really annoying in some smaller areas.
>>339963925
I did, finished it on ultra violent and nightmare.
>>339962805
> Bullet sponge
1/10 bait, I still replied.
Everyone who has played the game knows you're full of shit.
>he never used the gauss cannon
>he never used quad damage
>he shot pinkies in the face
>>339964159
So you know what you said is horseshit, right?
>>339963720
First post best post
>>339964221
>pinkies in the classic levels
>>339964159
Then you're a stupid faggot who has no idea what a bullet sponge is. You're bad at video games, and any and all opinions you have are hereby discarded.
You'd have had a better time just admitting you suck.
Did anyone else think the Rocket Launcher felt weak as fuck?
>>339964607
the default chaingun, shotgun and rocket launcher all were peashooters until upgraded.
>Dat mobile turret upgrade
>>339964607
it's designed more for AoE strats then skillshots, especially with remote detonation.
>>339964607
Yes, the shrapnel shit makes it better, but also damages you quite often, the lock on is complete garbage and the stationary upgrade for the gauss and turret upgrade for the chaingun make every other weapon obsolete, except for the super shot.
>>339962805
>Bullet sponge simulator 2016
Nope. This game takes the whole cake.
>>339962805
Bullet Sponges are a staple of DooM.
Not having them would be something to complain about, not the other way around.
>>339964895
Yeah, but enemies take a lot more to kill than in the originals.
>>339964221
The gauss canon is pretty weak.
And pinkys actually arent one of my problems in the game.
>>339965084
No they don't.
>>339965301
You clearly never played Doom 1 and 2
>>339964529
>suck
>beat the game on ultra violent and nightmare
choose wisely
>>339964690
The mobile turret upgrade is one of the very few things feeling powerful.
>>339965186
>gauss cannon
>weak
How?
I found it to be the strongest weapon overall with the chaingun, excluding the insta-kill weapons.
Daily reminder that nostalgiafags are cancerous shits and their opinion on anything is completely irrelevant.
>>339965186
>The gauss canon is pretty weak.
You never played this game.
>>339965403
I have and the gun damage to enemy health balance is very, very similar to the originals. Doom 2016 as a few advantages, however, in the form of headshots and the chainsaw/bfg being one-hit kills.
>>339964159
Stop using the pistol
>>339965568
I don't honestly think they're even fans of the original Doom games honestly, at least the ones claiming that D44M is slow. The speed is almost as fast as original Doom when you hold down the sprint button. They seem more like faggots that only played mods or some shit.
But those faggots seems to have forgotten that you had a sprint button in the original Doom and that you didn't always use it.
In terms of movement speed, Doom 1 and 2 was quicker, but in terms of pace in combat, D44M is faster since it relies on speed to avoid things with enemies generally being stronger and smarter than in the original.
This doesn't mean that D44M is better than the originals, they're just a bit different from each other. I do hope that a potential sequel will have a pure SP experience.
>>339965787
Yeah, there is absolutely no reason to use the pistol if you're accurate
>>339965994
Good post, I agree
>>339966039
>there is absolutely no reason to use the pistol
Could've ended it right there.
>>339965535
It isnt bad, but the upgrades are pretty useless.
The assault rifle with micro rockets was more useful in nearly every situation
>>339965186
>The gauss canon is pretty weak.
Wrong.
>>339965787
God fuck, what a shitty weapon, the normal shotgun wasnt that good either and I was so happy to get the machine gun.
>>339965994
>at least the ones claiming that D44M is slow
Speed was fine, having stuff like haste rune made it better though, levels like argent tower break the flow though and I have no idea why they thought that level was good level design in the first place.
>>339965994
And just to add before some faggot get butthurt, I am not saying you don't use speed at all to avoid shit in the originals, in larger rooms with more enemies you definitely had to use sprint and avoid shit but a lot of the time you could rely on simple zick-zack movements to avoid projectiles.
Or at least I did.
Finished the game today
It was actually really fucking good, and the runes that sped up glory kills + speed boost from glory kills made it a blast
>>339966384
>levels like argent tower break the flow though and I have no idea why they thought that level was good level design in the first place.
I dunno, I didn't mind it personally but I can see what you mean. I am guessing they just wanted to switch things up a bit to make sure the game didn't feel too repetitive or something like that.
>>339966585
Its a good game, but some enemies just take too long to kill.
>>339966320
>It isnt bad, but the upgrades are pretty useless.
You're dead wrong, whether you meant the Gauss Cannon or Chaingun.
So, best level?
my only gripe with this game is the fact every fight is wave based and it gets super boring after awhile
>>339967078
The only enemy I felt was slightly annoying to dance around was the cyber mancubus, everything else felt right on the money.
I feel like the only glaring flaw of modern Doom is the level design, the levels themselves work fine enough, easy to understand which way to go and plenty of secrets.
The flaw comes that every large scale battle area looks way to much like a deathmatch arena, you're pretty much never unsure of when a really big fight is going to happen, and I feel like that kind of ruins it. The original Doom IMO was far better at making ambushes harder to discover.
>>339965186
that's not how you spell rocket launcher
>>339967078
>just take too long to kill
the cyber mancubus for me, revenants if far away and baron of hell
but baron gets a pass because baron
>>339967157
Agreed, I wanted something like cleaning an entire hall of possessed, but that wouldnt work in later levels because lol AoE and penetration on literally everything.
But I feel like putting that early in the game would make normal people complain about how hard it is to clear that.
>>339967318
I honestly like the battle arena designs, the verticality in some of the areas feel great.
>>339967503
with the way it ended hopefully we're getting an expansion that fixes the problems most people had with it or just d55m
>>339965186
>didn't use charge mode
>complaints gauss is weak
>>339964607
No.
That fucking thing is a fist of god against demons.
Hands down my favorite, and most used weapon, followed closely by super shotty.
Remote detonation makes it a god tier weapon.
>>339967604
I paid 30€ for it and completed it in 10 hours, I cant say I regret it or that it was to short I just want more, especially after that ending, why doomguy didnt kick Samuels ass is beyond me.
>not using gauss rifle to jump further
>>339967776
i got mine as a gift but if i spent the amount my friend spent on it for me then yeah same no regrets at all i'm having a blast replaying it on harder difficuties or just running through it with the rich get richer rune on just wish mp was more active since it's enjoyable
>>339967130
Really hard to pick for me.
Either of the later lab levels, or I am Vega probably. I didn't care much for hell levels.
>>339968049
but what about the titan realm when you first get in there and there are huge hands everywhere or the later later level with the icon of sin
>>339967637
I did, but it was never that useful for me.
>>339967503
cyber mancubus and cyber demons are the most annoying for me.
>>339968218
Irrelevant to me.
I am judging maps based on the fightan content in them, and I found hell levels to be seriously lacking in comparison to the lab levels.
>>339967761
Remote detonation is great for killing smaller demons, but I prefered using the plasma gun heat wave for that.
>>339968049
The Hell levels were my favorite.
>mfw seeing the Dead Simple homage
>>339969162
Heat wave forces you to get pretty close to the enemies and is utterly useless against bigger demons, whereas the stun bomb is a god send against shit like pinkies and hell knights. Thus, I rather used missile launcher to dispatch shit like imps etc at range, and shotty up close, instead of wasting upgrade points on the heat wave.
The fully upgraded Super Shotgun is OP as fuck and none of the enemies were nearly as bullet spongy as in TNO.
Those goddamn Pinkies in the classic maps though. I kept dying like a filthy casual in Halls of the Damned. Their movement and AI is broken as fuck in those maps though. They keep getting stuck.
>>339962805
more like Brutal PainKiller RPG 2016
How much harder is Nightmare compared to ultra violence? Is it just increased HP on monster?
>>339963824
>Upgrade your weapons.
Am I the only one that finds even the idea of something this stupid being in a fucking DOOM game?
>>339969651
you die literally in two hits.
>>339969702
>>339965186
>The gauss canon is pretty weak.
Gauss canon is one of the most powerful weapon in game. Plasma mode can kill nearly anything in one shot. Hell knight, Cacodemon, Revenant... Manucubus is two shot at most, Baron maybe 3.
> machine gun becomes useless aginst anything stronger then spooky skeletons , micro missles are useless
>rocket launcher is underpowered
> I keep forgetting I have the plasma gun, weakest weapon and only use it as a last resort
> normal shotgun is good , but made useless by the super shotgun
> chaingun is underpowered
I like the super shotgun and Gauss gun though
>Bullet sponge enemies
Am I missing something?
I am playing on UV and everything dies at about the same rate as they would in Doom.
Do enemies get more HP on Nightmare or something?
Haven't even really bothered with weapon upgrades yet and just finished the FoundryI just got it
>>339969923
>> chaingun is underpowered
HAH
>>339969826
Man, I've never played Doom 64 and the new Doom has me in the mood.
Should I just play it vanilla inOpenEmu?
>>339969702
>Am I the only one that finds even the idea of something this stupid being in a fucking DOOM game?
Nah. It's a nice touch, it allows the game to throws 10 time more demon and more powerful demon at the end of the game without getting ridicilous. You have to be more on your toes and keep moving but aren't feeling too weak either. Many upgrade have downside, so many time you just use regular firemode and alt mode are a welcome strategic bonus.
I was dubiosua t first, but it works pretty well.
>>339969923
>chaingun is underpowered
Yeah until the turret upgrade. that shit tears through hordes
>>339962805
What the fuck is with this game's lag.
I can play games like Bioshit Infinite at max settings but I cant even get this fucking game to run.
>>339969923
>micro missles are useless
They're good on Pinkies and Hell Knights. And when you fully upgrade them with the Rich Get Richer rune, you can rain down serious hellfire.
Plasma Rifle's stun is good for the aforementioned enemies too.
>>339970072
Use Doom 64 EX.
https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/downloads/
>>339962805
Is this cracked yet? What's keeping basedslav?
>>339970281
Oh sweet, an OS X installer. Thanks.
>>339965186
Confirmed for not playing the game.
I tore hell a new asshole with the fully upgraded Gauss Cannon under Siege mode and the infinite ammo rune.
>>339969992
>Do enemies get more HP on Nightmare or something?
Nope, not even that. You die pretty quickly, tho
>>339962805
you know if you switch from the pistol you can actually do damage.
>>339969702
alt fire modes are one of my favorite things so I was cool with some
>>339966384
>God fuck, what a shitty weapon, the normal shotgun wasnt that good either and I was so happy to get the machine gun.
shot gun is only useful at stunning enemies to get them to do specific glory kills.
after that, the super shotgun is literally the best weapon.
>>339969923
> machine gun becomes useless aginst anything stronger then spooky skeletons , micro missles are useless
Nah. Machine good is good for taking out imp and trash that are super far away, plus headshot bonus deals tons of damage.
Micromissile after upgrage can have their use. It's not the best shit ever, tho, on that we will agree.
>rocket launcher is underpowered
Remote denotation is borderline useless but homing missile can have their use.
> I keep forgetting I have the plasma gun, weakest weapon and only use it as a last resort
It's a good weapons, though. The stun attack is very useful. Direct power should be use on other thing than trash mobs, though.
> chaingun is underpowered
hahahahahahahaha hell no. Even without upgrade, it's a deathmachine
>>339962805
Nice bait. probably playing on the easiest difficulty in all honesty
>>339969923
I disagree with you chaingun statement.
Super Shotgun and Gauss Cannon is all you need to beat the game tho.
>>339970201
Update your drivers.
>>339971120
>Remote denotation is borderline useless but homing missile can have their use.
the travel time is still too slow.
at least let me spam the shit out of them like the original.
i had more fun firing nothing but missiles with the machine gun
>>339970679
Then I'm not really seeing the bullet sponge so far.
Honestly I can get a bit careless with ammo as well because of the chainsawbut I still use both in a very reserved mannerso I'm not really seeing the bullet sponge issue.
>>339971526
he can't aim.
>>339971120
Remote detonation is great with the shrapnel upgrade.
>>339970201
i had a problem at the beginning, the bethesda logo was running at 1 FPS for some fucking reason, then it ran smoothly for the rest of the game. then i updated my driver and now it runs fine
>>339971706
>shrapnel upgrade
hurts you from such a distance its not even funny anymore
>>339972184
i hate the rocket launcher, does retarded splash damage to you, but when you want to use it on demons it just tickles them.
cacodemons need to eat an assload of them while firing huge splash damage of their own.
>>339971706
>Remote detonation is great with the shrapnel upgrade.
Unfortunately, it was the very last upgrade I unlocked, I was nearly at the end of the game so I didn't really had the chance to assess its efficiency.
>>339969702
They're fine but most of the alt modes are trash which is lame.
>>339970201
>I can play games like Bioshit Infinite at max settings but I cant even get this fucking game to run.
First time it run, you should let it lag the intro video. It will take like 5 minutes to get through, but it will never happen again afterthat, no matter how much you restart the game. I don't know why. Game is probably creating some stuff. Also, apparently new drivers fix the thing.
>>339972356
>cacodemons need to eat an assload of them while firing huge splash damage of their own.
>6 lock on rockets kill one
>meanwhile, the stationary gauss cannon can 1 hit kill them and even penetrate through it to kill even more
Weapon designers in this game really fucked up, especially since chainsaw is just there for ammo replenish and the BFG is... okay
>>339971526
There's no bulletsponge issue. OP is retarded.
>y doesn't everything die in one hit like in muh military shootans?
Fuck you.
>>339972503
not as trash as the pistol the entire time
>having to kill a mancubus with a pistol for an objective
fucker would not fucking die, just get stunned and by the time he was unstunned he got his health back and i would start all over.
>>339969702
You know what's stupid? The game is 3D for some reason, there is jumping, aiming up and down, no face of Doomguy in the middle, everything is absolutely retarted WHY WON'T THEY JUST MAKE WADS IN ORIGINAL DOOM RIP AND TEAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339972805
charged headshot + runes that make them stagger longer
after the stun I needed 2 charged headshots to kill it
>>339972586
BFG is nice.
it works great on cluster fuck of enemies.
the rocket launcher is garbage. not sure why they thought the travel time needed to be that slow and the damage that bad.
you only can carry 25 rockets, did they need to be that terrible.
plasma gun is also fucking garbage.
it feels like i do nothing to enemies
>>339968497
>cyber demons
did you mean barons of hell? there's only 1 cyberdemon and he's a boss
>Everything dies in a few hits
>Game becomes a bore and nothing poses a challenge because you only need to reposition once or twice to kill everything
Yeah, no. Bulletsponges are a problem in games where you don't have options and the combat is static. If you are forced to keep on the move all the time then increasing the creature's health is a good move or else every engagement will be too fast and won't pose a challenge.
>>339973230
>there's only 1 cyberdemon and he's a boss
Is there a way to dodge that guys targeting laser beam? I swear to god I tried nearly everything but I just wont get out of the focus.
Do you have to run behind it or what?
>>339973025
>BFG is nice.
Yeah, damage wise and you get plenty of ammo.
Thing is... I rarely encountered situations were I had to kill large amounts of demons, where I wouldnt have the same result with the gauss or chaingun, I used it like 5 times, 3 times against the spider demon and twice on the last wave for the crucible charge
>>339973332
You have to wait for it to lock on (turn yellow) and then double jump away as soon as that happens
>Expect some good,badass achiv from completeing the whole campaign on Ultra-Nightmare
>You just have to complete the first mission to get it
...Where's muh challenge?
>>339973489
Weird. With the jump upgrade?
To be honest he was the only guy giving me trouble and I was so pissed that I didnt explore the room before being teleported to Hell, I wanted to find the body of the guy luring the cyber demon in that cell
>>339973332
i always stood to the opposing side of his beam (its on his left hand, so i was as to his right as possible) and danced around. i don't think i ever let it fully charge though, cancelled his animation with BFG and whatnot
>>339973230
Yeah, meant the baron. No idea how I mixed those up.
Not as bad as the cyber mancubus, but can still become tedious if youre out of ammo on the chaingun and assault rifle.
>>339973808
>cancelled his animation with BFG and whatnot
Yeah, thats what I did with the normal shotgun and the grenade upgrade.
>>339973492
>achievements = challenge
You have to be 18 to post here
>>339973492
Who cares about achivements?
>>339973492
achievements are fucking dumb.
challenge is journey not recognition
>>339964845
The difference is that Doom is a really good game with a few bad elements.
The division is a really bad game with very few good elements.
The trick with the game is to have target priorities and remember to use the chainsaw correctly, timing the chainsaw on the right enemy at the right time can change a losing battle.
The target priorities are not always the biggest or most threatening in a specific kill box, with the exception of the fucking barons because fuck those guys.
The game is actually pretty clever in the way it requires you to think with some tactics on the move in a constantly changing battle.
I never ran in to the problems others seem too, like being low on ammo. The only exception being chainsaw fuel and BFG charges.
Best weapons are the heavy assault rifle and super shotgun, chipping away at long distance with the rilfe and nailing them at close range with the super shotgun. Gauss cannon is useful vs specific targets like killing cacodemons and Summoners in one shot in siege mode. Everything else is meh.
>>339974183
>a few bad elements.
the only things i can find wrong with doom are that some weapons feel completely terrible, plasma gun, and rocket launcher.
and some nit picks about references, which is scraping the barrel for finding shit wrong.
>>339965408
> Ultra Violence
> Skill
I went to take a shit and come back to this fuckery?
End yourself.
>>339972805
Weaken him with a stronger weapon and then finish him off with the pistol you dip.
>>339975639
>two hour shit
>>339975697
no
i killed him using only the non-upgraded pisol, and i did.
just had to spam him harder
>>339972876
Actually, is there a mod to put Doomguy's face in the middle and to make him hold the gun in the middle?
>>339975817
i'd rather have HD44M mod over what you're suggesting
>>339975817
In all honestly, is Denuvo really blocking mods? I'd love to see content for this game.
Regular shotty with the grenade upgrade + clusters is excellent even in the late game, I don't know why you people are shitting on it.
>>339976613
Because we wanted Doom not Call of Doom you fucking millennial twat.
>hurr u just haven't played it yet xDDD
Fuck off CoDbabby you don't know SHIT about Doom and don't you dare try to post some nonsense to "prove" otherwise cause I KNOW you're just faking it. A REAL Doom fan would NEVER EVER praise this tripe. Die. Just fucking die.
WHY ARE PINKIES SO FUCKING STRONG THEY CAN EAT LIKE 3 ROCKETS AND STILL NOT DIE
>>339969923
>Not getting the Stun module on the Plasma Rifle.
>The turret module on the chaingun and the charge module on the Gauss Cannon.
>Then equipping the unlimited ammo rune when above 100 armor.
Nothing will EVER be able to touch you. Switching between each weapon and using their alt fire is what allowed me to complete ultra-nightmare after a shit ton of tries.
>>339978626
Shoot them up the butt you moran.
>>339978626
I got Shadow Warriors a while back and I'm loving it. Almost finished too, would I like D44M?
>>339979895
Yes.
>>339968418
Charge headshot=instant death to basically everything. Hell either upgrade to the gauss and a headshot is instawin. Learn to aim
