>a Mario game will never have as creative level design as this one ever again
>>339950410
>bunny ears never again
>>339950410
agreed, the wanton creativity on display in this game is a constant delight. Only other game that comes close to this amount of crazy ideas executed brilliantly is Dynamite Headdy imo
>>339950410
BUM...BUM BUM...BUM BUM-BUM-BUMP
>tfw the ad gave 3-year-old me nightmares
Wario was god damn creepy to young me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhB8XG9_5Rc
>>339950410
I dunno, Nintendo have backed themselves into a corner with Mario Maker. Now that they've put those kinds of tools in the hands of the public, they can't just release more New Super Mario shitshows that are basically just NSMB level packs with 2-3 new powerups.
I can't guarantee it'll be GOOD, but it seems to me like they're actually going to have to be creative with the next 2D Mario they put out.
>>339950410
I loved this as a kid, but looking back it really didn't feel like a Mario game. Very difficult to speed run, platforming felt too heavy on exploration/switching between vertical and horizontal, and there were a lot more gimmick levels that I would have liked.
That said, there were so many golden ideas in this game that I'm surprised haven't been retapped. Then again, SML1 hasn't been tapped either, and that game had an original villain, flight levels, and a really cool level design.
Things we'll never get in a Mario game again:
>Super Ball
>Tatanga
>Totomesu and Egyptian levels
>Moai heads
>Chai Kingdom
>Sarasaland in general
>Ending levels by ringing a bell
>Bunny ears
>Treetop levels
>Submarine levels
>Crypt levels
>Wario in a mainline Mario game
I would pay hard cash to get any of these in a modern Mario game. Shit, even a Mario Kart.
Sucks to be an older Mario fan, guys
>>339951169
sure they can because MM was laughably limited
I love the level where you get into robo Mario's pants and there are balls everywhere
>>339951169
If they went hard with the creative process in the same vein they did with Mario 3, it could be good. Mario 3 was the exactly right evolution from Mario 1's design: huge maps you could actually explore, a huge selection of items, better co-op, plot is actually more developed...
I would love to be impressed by a Mario game like that again. The closest they've come since, for me, was 3D World. Which I know was a rehash, but I never played 3D Land, so it blew me away as a full package.
>>339951260
Such a shame
>>339951484
>Such a shameI bought a WiiU for it. I was so excited
>>339951232
>Things we'll never get in a Mario game again:
I dunno, I could easily see all of them coming back in a game, in the next 5 years even. But it'll be in the New Super Mario engine and it'll be soulless as fuck
Modern Nintendo is like a monkey paw, you'll get your wish but it'll be corrupted beyond redemption
>>339950410
lego world
>>339951484
Actually, feeding off of that, I think the correct direction for a new 2D Mario might be to take inspiration from games like SMB3, 3D World, and Galaxy, which are all fairly popular.
>an insane amount of levels that steadily increase in difficulty
>interactive world map
>multiple playable characters
>co-op mode
>gimmick collectables, similar to Power Stars
>fun hidden physics and neat game mechanics
>fun to speed run
>lots of little challenges and challenge modes
>as many references and throwbacks as they can cram in
>interesting new powerups, like a Mole Suit that lets Mario dig, mixed with bringing back some old favorites
>levels vary from short, speed based challenges to big exploration zones and everything in between
>multiple ways to meet the final goal
>Score comes back, Mii Ghosts return, added online functionality
>some sort of level editor a la Mario Maker
>bring back stuff from SMBDX like Boo Racing and crazy stamps, fortunes, etc. for Miiverse functionality
>playable Wario, Waluigi, andAshley
It'd be good, guys. I swear.
>>339951651
Maybe? NSMBU was a neat game, but I never finished it because it was so damn soulless. But 3D World seriously blew my mind. I loved it.
This game literally had parallel universes, get fucked
Got my dad to buy me this thinking it was a Mario game. Don't regret a thing, this game was goddamn awesome. I can't remember how many times I played through it, and I knew nothing about the internet so I had to discover all the treasures on my own.
>there will never be another 2D Wario Land game of the same style and quality as the gameboy/GBC/GBA ones
>they make "Super Mario 3D Land" on 3DS
>it has literally zero references to any of the Land titles
Why was this allowed
>>339952024
>This game literally had shit controls and a shit camera, get fucked
The sooner nugamers realize their precious little games they played as a kid were shit because gaming was moving to a style-over-substance bullshit model for non-gamer trash of the time, the sooner we can kill modern gaming.
>>339951484
> The closest they've come since, for me, was 3D World.
>being impressed by the worst example of nintendo's lack of creativity and ambition with the franchise
>>339952024
le autism half button press speedrun meme
>>339952238
It was exactly what I wanted. It even rewarded me for being good at the game with more content. And gave me a new character for the trouble.
I thought /v/ liked it?
>>339952231
>shit controls
nigga i'll give you the camera stuff was shit, but shit controls? nah fambo
>>339952070
Modern Nintendo.
>>339951871
>Ashley
I'll take twenty
>>339950410
You haven't played 3D Land or World
>>339951871
>>339952662
>Ashleyfags exist everywhere
>Penny Crygor fags are pretty much non existent
I am alone in this world
>>339952898
no, we're just not as insufferable
>>339952898
I remember writing a huge list of potentials for Mario Kart and/or a 3D World sequel, and absolutely included Crygor and Penny.
You're not alone, anon
>>339950410
I liked NSMW, it's pretty good. The only 2D Mario i've ever 100%ed.
>>339952070
>he's implying Land is a subseries
>>339953071
E. Gadd had better have been on that mario kart list
>>339952070
EAD at work.
SPD/R&D1 has a different aesthetic as their shit usually bordered on anime-esque or were a bit too Japanese-y at some points. They haven't taken the reigns of a Mario game since Land 2.
>>339952416
/v/ isn't an echo chamber, there's a lot of people who hate 3d world specifically because it's a symbol of how safe and homogenized the mario games have become
>>339950963
WEPOO WEPOO WEPOO
>>339950963
SQUEAKY SQUEAKY SQUEAKY
>>339951871
>playable Wario, Waluigi, and Ashley
This is a bad idea. Do you want Mario to devour the last slither of chance for a Wario Land title?
>>339950410
Thank you OP, Everytime I tried to defend this game the fucking 'NEW SUPER FAGS' says it's sucks
>>339950410
i think people forget how retardedly easy this game was
>>339953875
Is that bad though?
Not all games have to be balls to the wall hard to be fun to play. Golden Coins was comfy as fuck.
>>339952040
warioland was pretty fucking awesome
>>339950410
Literally every subsequent game is more creative than SML2
>oh a giant world how creative
>a space world
>a sea world
>a halloween world
Sooooooooooo creative
>>339953071
Incidentally, it absolutely bugs the shit out of me that Mario Kart games have the audacity to put characters like fucking Baby Rosalina in the game when the extended Mario universe has SO many characters on offer. Where's Nabbit? Kamek? Any of the WarioWare team? They gave us Cranky in MKWii but then didn't bring him back, which just seemed like a dick move.
King K. Rool and Ashley would bring way more hype to a Mario Kart game than fifteen versions of Daisy at different points of her life cycle. It's frustrating
>>339952070
>they make "Super Mario 3D World" on Wii U
>it has literally zero references to Super Mario World
The whole "3D" subseries can really go suck and die for all I care.
>>339954091
As opposed to
>grassy plains
>desert
>beach/water
>jungle/swamp
>snow
>mountains
>volcano
>>339954091
are you being sarcastic because those do sound pretty creative
>>339954091
honestly no idea what this post is meant to mean. Is it trolling?
>>339953843
There are NSMB fags? I'm 99% certain they don't really exist
>>339950410
>Nintendo will never make another Donkey Kong Mario game that isn't saturated with mini trash
I can't think of a single Mario subseries besides maybe Kart that Nintendo hasn't had the life sucked out of in the last few years
>>339954091
they're creative takes on classic concepts or at the time brand new themes for the series you retard
>>339951871
Oh, so all it has to do is everything. Nice and simple.
>>339954660
>brand new themes at the time
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, shut up
>>339954647
would love to see another donkey kong like that. Especially with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNsiX0gKMEU
>>339954584
To be fair there are a small group people, Mainly the ones that didn't grew up with the old Mario games.
>>339954647
Man I thought 3D World was full of life. It wasn't like Galaxy, but it was a ton of fun and the levels saw a lot of passion in them.
>>339953875
The last level was pretty tough.
>>339954136
Since you're dancing around it, here's the cast of characters I had on that list that really should get a nod at some point since they've never appeared in a Mario Kart:
>Nabbit
>Bow
>Kat
>Ana
>Ashley
>Dixie
>Fawful
>Motley
>Pionpi
>E. Gadd
>Kamek
>Lina
>Orbulon
>Penny
>Pauline
>9-Volt
>Plum
>Sarissa
>Imajin
>Il Piantissimo
>Tatanga
>Shokora
>Stanley
>Steve
>Vanessa
>Cranky
>Nastasia
>Peasley
>Mona
>Mouser
>Dr. Crygor
>Captain Syrup
>Lubba
>Grodus
>Boom Boom/Pom Pom
>Galrog
>Dribble/Spitz
>Totomesu
>Wart
>Coach
>Denpu
>Rudy
>Foreman Spike
>K. Rool
>Princess Shroob (either)
>Midbus
I definitely would love to see the RPG cast appear too, like Belome, Geno, Mallow, Dodo and Valentina, but I won't hold my breath any longer than I am for the others
>>339955451
>didn't even list E. Gadd
I'll sike-sike your yabba-yabba
>>339955451
>Pauline
I'm really curious as to why she's never shown up in a single Kart or Party or any other Mario spin-off game.
>>339954764
mario zone wasn't brand new? eat a dick
The boos dancing along to the overworld music was an adorably nice touch
>>339955629
She's really, really plain. Even the Mario vs Donkey Kong games barely use her.
>>339950410
This had my favorite Mario Boss fights in it. Maybe my favorite aesthetic also. I guess because it was more in line with the style you'd see in the (future) Wario Land games that would come after it and I fucking love Wario Land games so much more than most Mario games.
>>339955574
But E. Gadd is listed.
>>339955992
oh shit I skimmed over him
You know, he was supposed to be in mario kart ds, but he got replaced with rob last minute
>You will never hear Kazumi Totaka score another non-Yoshi related Mario platformer again.
>You will never hear Kazumi Totaka score another Wario Land game again.
>>339956161
>There will never be another Wario Land game, period
>>339952024
>>339957656
Is this Loss?
>>339952040
>>339950410
Level design in both of these is shit though. Sure the themes are creative, but the obstacle and enemy placement do never interact, making levels just a sum of objects in them. Both games feel like a chore to play.
