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Which one of these is getting their sequel announced at E3 /v/?
Also, Devil May Cry general. No fighting :)
neither
DMC5 is more likely since NT is working on Hellblade and Itsuno is working on an unannounced project.
But to be completey frank I don't even think they are going to call in DMC5. They are just going to drop the numbers and DmC completely for this kind of half step that feels like old DMC but is presented so people who only played DmC also understands it.
That's me thinking business though.
>>339930323
Also no announcement at E3.
It's just going to be RE7 and Dead Rising 4.
>>339930323
they've stated in one of their Hellblade dev diaries that they're working on another secret project with the rest of the team.
I unironically enjoy DmC more than the original weeb Dante
Neither will be announced
DMC is as dead as clover studios
Neither.
DmC was a massive flop, and the DMC teasing was for Pachinko. Capcom is still broke too.
DMC5's only hope is Sony fronting the cash to have it made like with Street Fighter V, and that'd be a PSX announcement in December if it happens.
>>339930508
DMC5 is a thing
>>339930504
>weeb Dante
That word doesn't mean what you think it means
>>339930508
if it was that dead I don't think they'd have bothered releasing a new version of DMC4 with extras
but I don't think either will be announced either, not that I care for anything capcom does anymore.. they'll probably give us some DMC mobile soon
>>339930591
He's definitely the weeaboos choice.
>>339930000
DMCV, obviously. DmC is incredibly dead.
Also nice quads.
>>339930323
DMCV for the Vergil game.
DMC5 was already informally announced in DMC4:SE
also DmC performed terribly on market after being released 3 fucking times on the most platforms of any game in the series and was a PR nightmare unlike any ever seen for any video game company.
DmC is pretty much dead and buried after the PS4/Xbone ports flopped.
Should I get DmC? I purchased the june humble monthly for Rocket League and all the rest looks like utter shit, but someone is offering me DmC for any of the games. Only ever played DMC3 which I found a tad boring.
>people thinking Capcom could make a DMCV that is good and finished
>>339930524
>DmC was a massive flop
That's being hyperbolic.
They aimed for the 2 million mark originally, (The DmC selling 5 million wasn't actually serious) it sold like 1.2 million. And then after a bunch of bundles and shit it now lies at 1.7 million.
It was a disappointment to be sure, and I hardly think a new DmC will ever come out. But it wasn't like Capcom caught fire because of it. They most likely turn a profit, albeit an extremely little one.
Good thing too, because if DmC had actually been a total fucking flop I doubt we would be here talking about DMC5 potentially getting made. It sold the exact right amount of bad.
>>339931169
But it took fucking YEARS and being released on more platforms than any other game in the franchise to get to those sales.
sales which every other DMC game beat in the first fucking month, some of them being exclusive to a single platform.
>>339931169
>DmC selling 5 million wasn't actually serious
sure
>DmC had actually been a total fucking flop I doubt we would be here tlaking about DMC5 potentially getting made
if DmC hadn't been made/greenlit in the first fucking place, nobody would have been talking about DMC5 getting made.
>>339930810
>DMCV for the Vergil game.
You actually play as Dante throughout the entire game and the twist is that it was Vergil undercover all along.
Devil May Cry V
>>339931169
actually the original number was 10 million, which got lowered to 5.
>>339931169
>DmC selling 5 million wasn't actually serious
Good one Anon.
How did DMC4SE sell? They've got Pachinko, but is there a chance that they may be working on DMC5 in the future if the pachinko machine and DMC4 both sell?
>that odd feeling when you really enjoyed DMC 2013
>>339931403what if Nero was Dante's clone?
>>339931403
DMC4 was already MGSV.
Think about it.
Doom>D44M>Doom 3>Doom 2
Didn't DmC ending set the stage for a DMC 3 like remake? Won't fans not be as critical if Capcom is handling the game internally? Does it make sense to try and continue the story after 10 years?
>>339931848
The Story of DMC 4 or DMC 2 I mean
>>339931773
kys
>>339931924
You could just do a soft reboot pretty easily.
All you really need to know as backstory is that Dante is a half-demon demon hunter, Nero is the son of his dead twin brother, and Lady/Trish are his domineering friends who work with him.
From there they could do whatever they want with the story, from investigating reports that Vergil escaped Hell to just dealing with a demonic incursion somewhere.
>>339931441
Resident Evil and Street Fighter are literally the only two franchises Capcom has that has games that sold over 5 million.
I'm sure some dumb CEO wanted DmC to sell that much, but it was never a real goal.
>>339932139
>Their officially stated sales goals weren't actually what they were aiming for
>>339931848
A DMC3 remake would be fine, but I think most people want a completely new game.
They just rereleased 4, it wouldn't be that odd to continue the story either from there or after 2.
>>339932289
If it was seriously 5 million with a budget to reflect that Capcom wouldn't call DmCs sales "solid'.
But that's the exact words they used in their financial report, and you don't fucking lie in a financial report.
>>339932569
>you don't fucking lie in a financial report
and nobody tries to save face when they made a shitty business decision
>>339932387
>it wouldn't be that odd to continue the story either from there or after 2.
>after 2.
I think they're just gonna keep pushing 2 back in the timeline, and pretending it doesn't exist. Not only does it completely invalidate any challenge Dante might face(Even more than he has in 4, that is), it also is just bad writing, and hard to get back to the Dante everyone knows and loves from.
>>339932695
You do realize that lying about your earnings is pretty fucking illegal?
Inflating sale numbers is a surefire way to ruin a company.
>>339933081
They don't have to inflate the numbers to say that it had 'solid' sales.
the 'solid' part means nothing, it's just ass-covering.
>>339933081
Lying about earnings isn't the same thing as downplaying a loss. They didn't fudge the numbers, they just didn't say it was a disastrous failure.
>>339933081
>illegal
inflating earnings is
lying and saying they were solid isn't
you having reading problems?
>>339932569
And you don't say "we expect ten million sales" and then downgrade to five million while losing huge amounts of face over it unless you expect five million sales.
>>339932825
They should stop pushing it back and just make a sequel already.
>>339933312
>the 'solid' part means nothing, it's just ass-covering.
Capcom openly stated that SFV selling 1.4 million was "disappointing." They didn't try to sugarcoat that.
You don't mince words over sales numbers, because if investors find out you haven't been completey straight with them you're basically fucked.
I liked DmC, the gameplay was good. Basically, if they make DMC5 with features from DmC, I would be happy.
>>339933984
Why are you a retard that can't distinguish between numbers and expressions?
>>339932825
I was replaying DMC1 recently and although DMC2 has shit writing, it was the logical next step when it comes to "power level"
I mean Dante beat the Demon King and basically has the power of Sparda.
>>339934307
>the gameplay was good
Stop baiting. There is literally nothing worth taking from DmC.
>>339935026
Why are you a retard who argues that Capcom are twisting the truth with statements when other reports clearly say otherwise?
>>339934307
>, the gameplay was good
no one is falling for this stupid shit
>>339935536
Nigger it's not lying, it's basic corporate doublespeak.
>>339935713
Corporate speak that seemingly applies to DmC but not Street Fighter V for some reason then.
>>339935878
Street Fighter 5 wasn't made by a third party.
>>339935660
There are people who were satisfied with DmC.
Not everyone on the planet shares your opinion
>>339936002
there are also people who shit in streets and drink Bud Light.
not everyone on the planet should be counted as human.
>>339936002
the gameplay was sub par and riddled with glitches
you can pretend it was well done but it really wasnt
>>339932139
>>339931169
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-18-capcom-excessive-outsourcing-has-resulted-in-a-decline-in-quality
Dude you're so right
>>339935878
It applies to SFV as well.
Street Fighter is one of their biggest properties and it wasn't outsourced. 1.4 million is WAY worse than "disappointing" in that case.
>>339935878
Capcom didn't foot the bill on V.
I'd be fine with either. It'd actually be sorta cool if both versions had sequels.
>>339930000
So i think I'll finish 1 today, is 2 really worth skipping?
>>339936569
Why?
>>339936593
Try it just to see.
Also get acquainted with it's control scheme more than the first game's.
>>339936593
Don't skip it.
You need to experience how bad it is.
>>339930000
But anon, the new Devil May Cry game announcement came weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt4DIs4vXEw
>>339935934
>Street Fighter 5 wasn't made by a third party.
Your argument for not wanting to dishonor a third-party might have had a point if Capcom hadn't been out there stating Lost Planet 3 was a huge disappointment for them. Which along with DmC's lukewarm sales resulted in a shift away from the western market.
>>339935110
>There is literally nothing worth taking from DmC.
I'm not defending the PoS that was DmC but remember how DMC4SE Vergil got some moves from DmC
>>339936593
It's kinda bad.
there are good things about it. The music rules, the enemy names are fucking amazing and SOUND like demon names, there's a good end-of-the-world atmosphere, Dante's design and Lucia are cool.
the gameplay is just subpar and there are some annoying segments.
>>339936932
like what?
>>339936741
Every time.
>>339937014
Many of his summoned swords moves were ripped directly from DmC along with his platforming summoned sword teleport.
>>339936932
He got sword tricking rather than manual tricking, which is a lateral move at best and a backstep at worst.
It's faster but significantly lacking in control.
If they do make DMC5, I really hope Dante is the protagonist again. I don't hate Nero, but every enemy in 4 is clearly designed for Nero to fight, and even though DMC4 Dante has the best mechanics, I much prefer to play him in DMC3 because the enemies feel designed with Dante in mind. I also hope they give Lady a better design than her DMC4 design.
>>339935110
Style point system is everything in DMC in your book I guess. So DMC 4 was a masterpiece when literally half the game was recycled environments and boss fights. All I see is a bunch of Elitists upset at Capcoms attempt at making the series more mainstream.
>>339936741
>all those mocap pics posted by dante's VA weren't for DMCV, but for this.
>>339930524
Omg dmc a la bloodborne plZ
>>339936651
Because it's pretty much the same gameplay with different coatings.
>>339937212
I'm still laughing
>>339937139
The platforming was only an extension of Nero's, which itself is where DmC stole the chain from.
Most of his sword formations are from DMC3 with a few new ones, I'm not sure any are from Virgil.
>>339937139
Vergil was able to use summon swords since his first appearance
>>339937139
Wasn't his Katana stinger like move from DmC as well?
>>339937167
He just needs to have his own segments that aren't cut.
It's probably difficult to design enemies just for Dante when his style switching can counter anything they can do on the fly, if he isn't locked to one like in 3.
>>339935110
>Early pre-release E3 demo
That was fixed ages ago, more so in the SE. Getting higher ranks in the next-gen remake was incredibly fucking hard.
>>339937260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYxjSEjoxqs&index=66
quality right here
>>339936932
That's cause Itsuno's team worked on VORGIL's gameplay.
>>339937392
Are you being retarded on purpose?
I'm talking about the DmC-unique summoned swords moves that 3 didn't have. Vergil in DMC4 has adopted many of those.
>>339937304
how do I git dis gud at dmc?
>>339937203
The style ranking was far from DmC's only issue.
>>339937534
Isn't that the very first boss, though? In a level that feels more like a tutorial than anything?
>>339937565
Practice.
>>339937678
that trick works on almost every boss.
hell Mundus can actually be killed in only two 'combos' on the highest difficulty.
>>339937579
Most of them were fixed completely even before the SE came out.
>>339937440
No, it was from 3.
>>339937558
Like what, he already had them from 3.
>>339937489
That shit was still there long after release and it's still easy as hell to rocket up the ranks in DE.
>>339938176
>it's still easy as hell to rocket up the ranks in DE.
Give be a sure-fire tactic that works, because I went from getting SSS in multi-enemy group fights to managing As and Ss using the same tactics of swapping between 6 weapons and not using the same moves close together.
>>339937859
I mean the after animation
>>339937817
No, most of it is still completely intact. The main change is that instead of the ranking staying there even if you stand completely still and don't do anything, it slowly degrades.
>>339935110
The only thing worth taking could be the level shaping visual thateven then only few areas were decent
>>339938286
What, where he turns around?
>>339938482
>D to B to S to SSS directly
>>339938283
Dodge into trillion stabs/axe works for practically anything, even after it was nerfed.
I'd love to see Capcom's internal team make DmC2. I really liked DmC's aesthetic and combining it with DMC's gameplay would make me rock fucking hard.
>>339938572
Yeah, is that from DmC or was also in 3? I didn't play with Vergil because I owned the vanilla version
>>339938482
But why are you still only using pre-release gifs, then?
>>339938713
DmC environment art direction was pretty solid
>>339938747
In 3 he just turned normally instead of it being backed into the rapid slash animation.
>>339938818
Obviously because he wasn't stupid enough to buy it.
>>339938818
because all the glitches from the demo, including the infinite climbing and the infinite flight glitch, made it into the full game.
>>339932101
>You could just do a soft reboot pretty easily.
Pretty sure this is exactly what's going to happen.
I bet DMC5 is just going to be called Devil May Cry: Dante's Return or some shit. That technically is the old DMC, but it acts as if it takes place after DmC somewhat (young Dante and Vergil, no Nero) so that they can shoehorn in DmC fans into the old fanbase.
Yeah yeah I know
>DmC
>Fans
It still sold a million copies and I bet Capcom would love to bolt that onto DMC4's 3 million.
>>339938572
Playing vergil in dmc4se made me realize how utterly limited his movesets where in dmc3se, especially when compared to dante.
FUCK YOU
>>339938818
Practically nobody gives enough of a shit to continue making gifs for DmC, though some like >>339938482 are from the full game post-patch.
>>339939407
Too bad you can't use Summoned Swords while taunting anymore. That was some stone cold shit, loved doing that in DMC3.
How about DMC vs DmC?
>>339939359
They may as well just remake DMC3 instead of making a new game then. There's nothing left to do in the past, they need to move it along.
>>339939461
Actually that is from the demo.
But it doesn't matter since the full game had the same shit in it.
>>339939359
I can see them doing somehing like this just os hey can remove DMC2 from the story. It's clear that they don't want to acknowledge its existence, so I'm sure they would be glad to remove it from the timeline altogether.
>>339936741
>>339939595
It's in the demo area, but not from the demo.
Or at the very least I picked it up in a thread specifically talking about the changes to the style rankings brought on by a patch.
>>339940236
believe me I spent more time bitching about DmC than I did actually playing DMC4.
it's from the demo. It was an infamous early sign of how shit the game was going to be.
>>339939937
It's not even worth removing. At the very least Lucia makes an okay supporting character and Dante in hell is a story hook.
The story isn't offensively bad, it's just boring.
>>339939582
Well I mean; it doesn't have to be a complete retread of 3, I just think they will go with a story that is very easy for DmC fans to understand.
>>339939407
I don't why people say he's broken in 4se when DMD mode put up a brtual challenge when using him.
>>339940671
He's pretty broken honestly.
His mobility, AoE and damage output is simply too good. He's supposed to be like super powerful when you play well and that's super cool, but the problem is that keeping a high concentration is just way too easy.
>>339940537
The only story like that is 3. A 3 remake like the RE remakes would be pretty good, but otherwise they should just move it forward and forget about trying to factor in DmC fans.
Making DMC more like DmC is kind of like making OG Star Wars more like prequel Star Wars to appease idiots that thought the later movies must have come after the earlier ones. It makes no sense.
>>339937304
YO MAHVEL
>>339941421
>>339936741
>start off fighting like a bunch of fags
>literally ends in murder
Oh my goodness.
>>339941508
Disgusting.
>>339936741
Suck my dick Capcom this is literally worse than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSRjJL1bv8
>>339942452
Okay it's not THAT bad.
>>339937007
> the enemy names are fucking amazing and SOUND like demon names
When you stretch this hard to find something good about that game i think it just screams how shit it is.
>>339942669
We knew Konami is fucking done for and that there won't be MGS games or remakes anymore while we had those mocap screens to give us some sort of hope for DMC5. I am beyond disappointed.
>>339941508
justin wasn't motivated enough
>>339931403
>implying Itsuno would ever stage himself getting fired and giving us an incompletely stylish game just to teach us nukes are bad
>>339941372
>Making DMC more like DmC is kind of like making OG Star Wars more like prequel Star Wars to appease idiots that thought the later movies must have come after the earlier ones. It makes no sense.
But it doesn't have to be "like DmC" though, because the way DmC ends makes it more similar to old DMC. Of course it's not the same, but a person who's played DmC can play DMC1 or DMC3 like a follow-up almost.
I just don't think that they are going to make something like a direct sequel to DMC4. They won't focus heavily on Nero or Lady and Trish, I'm sure they'll be present, but the story will probably be something more Dante and Vergil focused again.
>>339943028
The MGS one is way worse because it's whole remade scenes in a new engine just for pachinko and there will probably never be another Metal Gear again. It's raping the corpse, especially by using one of the most beloved scenes in the entire series for the trailer.
We don't actually know if the mocap was for this, and there's plenty of other hints besides. With DMC, there's still hope that this is simply building some profit to help finance an actual new game, rather than financing more fucking pachinko like with MGS.
>>339943028
>>339943927
Konami started hiring for a new Metal Gear even before MGSV was a huge success though.
Konami will keep making Metal Gear and PES, they still make a ton of money.
>>339930504
I played DmC first and tried to play DMC4
but the shitty puzzles and platforming are making me hate it
I just want to kill shit, why are there so many gimmicky puzzles?
>>339943793
I don't know, they might go with a sequel to 4, or even double down and have it be a sequel to 2 as well. There's no reason they can't do that and ALSO feature Dante and Vergil.
Honestly I think the next game will be very Vergil-centric and focus on him coming back. But to DmC players that wouldn't make sense, because he ended that game as a villain.
>>339943927
>by using one of the most beloved scenes in the entire series for the trailer
Anon that scene was already shat on in Peace Walker; good God I will never forget the Boss horse lmao.
Again, it was not a disappointed because nobody expected anything. As you said it's just a corpse which was already desecrated before.
On the other hand DMC pachinko was a build up then a let down.
>>339943028
You're a fucking retard.
Kojima is hiring for a new Metal Gear.
Itsuno just started working on a new project this January.
Stop falling for the negative hype.
>>339931098
>actually make new DMC4 cutscenes
>shall we put it in the SE?
>NO LETS MAKE A PACHINKO OUT OF IT FUCK THE GAME
I will never not be completely fucking assmad about this.
>>339939209
I played the game and never got a triple S by hitting 3 enemies.
>>339944290
Maybe, but I'd wager that people still lost their minds harder at that than if it was just random footage.
It wasn't a build up and a let down because there's nothing linking the pachinko to anything else that was known. Hell, they showed mocapping in the trailer, and Reuben and Johnny were nowhere to be seen. It's much more likely that shot was just for SF or something else.
Besides that, Capcom is lined up to announce two or three unknown titles soon, combined with other things like their financial report outlining a new Devil May Cry (Which isn't covered by the pachinko machine, that's licencing) there's still a very good chance we'll see more of it soon.
>>339944797
They DID make new cutscenes for DMC4SE though, even if it was just a few ones.
These were probably recorded during a similar time while they had them scheduled.
>>339944784
>Kojima is hiring for a new Metal Gear.
Let it go.
>>339936741
..d-dude. That webm is of two kid idiots just putting out petty punches and frantic grabbing...
...and then he pulls out a butcher knife and stabs him to death in seconds. Right through the ribs. Holy shit.
What is WRONG with people?
>>339945160
The difference between a smug cunt shitposter and a man with facts.
Learn it well.
>>339944894
>Besides that, Capcom is lined up to announce two or three unknown titles soon, combined with other things like their financial report outlining a new Devil May Cry (Which isn't covered by the pachinko machine, that's licencing) there's still a very good chance we'll see more of it soon.
Don't hold your breath for E3, that's almost certainly Dead Rising 4 and Resident Evil 7.
But yes I agree that it certainly seems to be happening. That tease in DMC4SE and Dan Southworth fucking up badly during that Con interview is also strong evidence.
>>339945464
Chinese.
Never seen the one with some 3 kids slowly beating another to death with rocks?
>>339937296
I'm still mad
>>339945025
Yeah I know but they made even more but didn't bother expanding the game further. I know I was expecting too much but seeing that shit after SE was a kick in the balls.
>>339930641
It should say "fuck you" instead desu
>>339936741
Wasn't an RE or DMC pachinko machine made announced a week before a new game was announced before? I'm not defending this, but I don't think it has any bearing on whether or not they're making a new DMC.
>>339945464
>people should do nothing while being bullied
kill yourself
>>339930000
>Which one
I'd rather play Titty Ninjas and Titty Zombies instead of Delicious monkey Cum.
>>339945532
Why do you think DR4?
You can't possibly believe those leaks were legit?
>>339946017
I think 3's pachinko was announced around a week before the E3 where 4 was announced.
>>339945526
Seems fishy desu senpai.
>>339946143
Because a Dead Rising 4 announcent lines up pretty perfectly right now.
DR3 was late 2013, If DMC5 really began development at the beginning of the year it's still way too early.
>>339946482
It's on Konami's recruitment page. The photo isn't doctored.
https://www.konami.com/jobs/en/career/spe/mgs_en.php
Take a look at it yourself. It's under contents-main
>>339946558
Yeah well DMC4 was in fucking 2008 and DmC was also in 2013.
It's not too soon that they can't announce it, remember DMC4's first teaser and when it came out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnbMbXfLSb0
Something like that would be perfect.
>>339947014
>DMC2's tagline was "the innocent suffer"
>>339930000
Nice trips, also I would actually like it if Capcom made DMC and DmC games in parallel. DmC may not have been what DMC fans wanted, but it was a good game in its own right. Put a different name on it and /v/ would have been fine with it.
>>339931098
I actually bought the unlock all modes and proud souls pack just because I wanted to get cuurayzee from the very start...
>>339946780
I dunno this seems weird. I mean they're starting a new team from scratch?
This looks silly
>·Boundless imagination, and the capacity for exciting new ideas
>·A strong passion toward game creation
And I thought Kojima is out of the picture for good? After all that bad blood how can he possibly come back? He already established his new team. Shouldn't they be fixing the unfinished MGSV instead? And isn't that supposed to be the final FINAL game to complete the cycle anyway? It'll probably be some spin-off cash-grab if it happens at all.
>>339947245
Put a different name on it and it would have been forgotten in a month just like everything else NT has made.
>>339930524
why are all these studios broke? can they not spend a fortune on everything for once? at least try?
>>339947495
Every Big Boss game that isn't MGS3 was advertised as such.
The way I see it, Kojima and Konami's bad blood is nothing but an elusive charade. Most of the ruse rides on the lack of information available to the public regarding the current project.
He's done a similar thing with MGS2, when he "submerged" from the last E3 to the release date preventing Raiden's existence from leaking.
It's not the point I'm trying to illustrate though. Look at this: http://www.hobbyconsolas.com/noticias/metal-gear-solid-v-premio-nobel-hideo-kojima-que-nunca-llego-exclusiva-mundial-143628
Another rumor from an inside source, much like the ones describing the state of affairs inside Konami's development staff.
The validity of this information is irrelevant, what we DO have in front of us is an unfinished game, an endless war between a faction that is all for building nukes as a means of deterrence, and one that is against the nuclear threat and seeks total disarmament.
>>339930000
DmC is dead forever. Thank god.
>>339947495
>>339948484
Lastly, we have a franchise abandoned by both the developer and the publisher.
If peace through disarmament were unconditionally achieved, it would prove for this social experiment he's trying to pull with a resounding success. The threat of the nuclear bomb is prevalent throughout the franchise. He always counts the numbers, he always paitns it in a negative light. It's understandable, sure.
I don't approve of his technique though, and I understand how this would force him to step out of the industry.
>>339948484I'm getting hopeful again; don't do this to me anon I thought I was off this ruse cruise.
>>339930000
P A C H I N K O
>>339948896
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
>>339937260
>the same gameplay
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>339949097
All this drama is setting the environment for a test addressed to all players where they do not simply follow through with its purpose simply to get to the next part of the game, but do it for the sake of moral righteousness and dismissal of nukes.
There is no theory that explains motive from either party.
My theory explains Kojima's intents, and it could hit home closer for him. No pun intended.
>>339948924
Don't listen to him even if he's right, it's better not to get your hopes up.
>>339949507
I still don't get the process you're describing.
>tfw DMC stands for Delicious Monkey Cum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOB1XRsqC8
>>339950245
It's Delightful minge Crust.
