Can we have a thread for games where every hit feels amazing? I'm trying to find some new games to play.
I'll dump some webms of what I'm talking about. Here is one from Dragons Dogma.
![tumblr_n26fknQA4l1r0sqjpo1_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/fLZzsl3.gif "tumblr_n26fknQA4l1r0sqjpo1_500[1].gif")
MH is nearly the same feel.
>>339925982
MH can get close, but it's paced more conservatively. There is limited hit feedback, so the hits that feel "good" are relatively few and far between when you happen to land a solid swing that trips the stagger thresholds.
Different strokes, for sure. The big pays offs are less frequent, but arguably feel better when they happen, but often times it's a bit frustrating to me personally. I could definitely do with a bit more visual flare to make most hits appear a tad heavier, even if it's only visual. I recall playing the original north american MH that had the blood censored to the tiniest little spurts, no matter how much damage you did with the swing and it felt like dog shit. Eventually got Freedom Unite and the generous geysers made otherwise the same game feel fucking incredible by comparison.
>>339926620
It had audio, so I converted it sorry :S
>>339925829
>>339925982
I really wish there were more RPG-types games (MH and its clones aren't really RPGs, but whatever) which had more viceral combat fighting giant monsters. DD and MH do a good job, but there need to be more.
Toukiden came really close, but it's still got a load of problems. Here's hoping for Nier Automata.
>>339925829
>>339926620
I kind of want to go back to Warrior for a bit, but then I remembered:
>3 skill slots
It's so depressing. I know you only really need AoD, but it's still annoying. I don't understand why Mages and Sorcerors get six slots with one weapon but Warriors don't. There's just no excuse for it.
>>339927434
I can think of a million different reasons why Warrior should have 6 slots
Main one being: IT'D BE DOPE
>>339927535
>Main one being: IT'D BE DOPE
Fuck yeah it would, and this is the only reason necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NYYewCSxo
>>339927434
They really needed new skills for the 2nd slot.
A massive buff for their normal attacks along the way too, so I don't have to jump attack all day.
Once during a capture mission in monster hunter, I got salty because a high rank rathian wouldn't go to sleep.
I kicked it once and it died.
>>339925829
>where every hit feels amazing
Dragon's Dogma isn't such a game. Arc feels amazing, a few other attacks do, but for the most part it's just whacking and stabbing a bit with minimal reactions.
>>339928282
That's what Pommel Bash and Exodus Slash is for
Which is another reason for 6 fucking slots, since I wanna use other fucking shit too
>>339928287
How? I can only do that against Gypceros since they become invincible during their feign death ability.
Except archery in DD felt weightless and flimsy as fuck.
The devs probably thought bows and arrows aren't heavy as fuck hardly have know-down power.
I understand that it won't topple a giant cyclops over. But medium-sized enemies would just stagger for a second whereas normal melee sword attacks could completely knock enemies down.
>>339928521
>The devs probably thought bows and arrows aren't heavy as fuck
>bows and arrows heavy
Do you even lift, that shits light as a feather bro
Also there are plenty of archer skills in the game that knock down and even pin to walls
>>339928521
Shortbows don't give much feedback, but charged shots with the Longbow are pretty good. Reaper's Arrow, Great Gamble and Secure Binder all have good weight behind them.
I need to go back to Ranger for a bit.
>>339925829
>can charge up forever and just wait, don't have to time anything
>monster already hit you, nothing happens
>monsters are piss easy
Wew.
>>339925982
>>339926284
>Monster Hunter gets close
KEK
Monster Hunter hundred times more satisfying than your bastardized casual game where you can charge your GS forever and monsters like the chimera literally stopping in front of you when charging at you.
Chimera is like the very easy version of Teostra, basically for mentally challenged Skyrim retards.
>>339929281
With the landing lag and bigger blood splatter in Monster Hunter when you hit weak body parts and the severing mechanic and the fact it's actually challenging to hit specific areas you feel the hits way more than in any other game.
>>339929412
>>339929514
>>339929671
Sleeping Dogs has some satisfying fighting.
The amount of moveset knowledge and reflexes needed to play monster hunter is probably well above what most people manage to muster.
That is too say, MH is not a game for casuals.
>>339928521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBhI1xnNOXM
I shot a griffon clear out of the sky with a Ranger once, you can wreck giant monsters for days with that thing.
>>339929916
>implying it isn't today when you can just spam jumps and jump attacks and take down everything with four three people in 4 minutes
>>339926752
Has Toukiden been fixed for PC yet?
>>339929036
yeah, that sounds great, but then when you do go back to a Ranger all you end up doing is using ten-fold flurry on everything because it outperforms everything.
>>339929824
>>339925982
May as well post the original video at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQeIKX6XB8
>>339929916
>tfw went through all of 4's single player with only ranged weapons
As much as I love using melee weapons, to me nothing compares to shoot/sniping a monster out of sky or its attack patterns.
Also when's Purple Ludroth coming back? It has my favorite GS in TriU.
>>339929916
I strongly disagree
I think Monster Hunter is about the average amount of knowledge and reflexes you can ask an average player to have
it's just that games in general set the bar so low that MH might seem a lot higher than it actually is
>>339929281
Who came in your cereal this morning?
>>339925829
Can do the same in MH except it's hard to pull off.
>>339929913
>that bullet-time when you parkoured out of cover and headshotted 5 enemies at once
>that bullet-time when you shot the wheel in a car chase
It made the game at times piss-easy but, fuck if it wasn't satisfying as hell. UNGH
>>339930579
>not even lvl3 charge
>>339929281
well you sort of have a point
shame your argument stems from playing MH only and pretending like you know shit about things non-casual
>>339930260
I wouldn't know, I only got it for Vita.
>>339930340
Ten-fold flurry outperforms every sill in the entire game in terms of raw DPS. That doesn't mean you should use it all the time, and it's more fun to down an enemy with a well-timed charged shot and then wail on it with TFF.
>>339929036
Deathly Arrow's fire effect is an instant panty lubricator
>line up shot perfectly
>BRA-KOWWWWWWW
>enemy goes flying 10 feet backward
Hnnnngh
Just about all the skills in DD are satisfying as hell to use
DDO better come west.
>>339931472
Why the fuck is that move not in mainline MH? Or have they finally added it to MHX?
>>339931889
Bits and pieces of it are in X. Lance gets a turbo charge somewhat similiar, but it ends in a simple stab. Aerial style lance lets you pogo with the thing.
>>339931472
Wow. Too bad this game is pure 2nd gen p2w trash
>>339925829
Probably not many people will agree but I love the combat in Nier. It's a bit on the easy side since you can cancel attacks with dodges and are generally manouverable as fuck whenever you aren't attacking but when you do attack you go from nimble ninja to lumbering behemoth. Also you shoot magic lasers arcade shooter style.
Everyone loves the ost, most love the story, but I think I might be the only one who loves the looks and gameplay of Nier.
>>339932068
It's not like its a pvp game.
>>339932374
I just got it recently, haven't started yet.
I kind of like the looks of the combat, but it does seem a little basic. At least it looks better than Drakengard, not that its saying much.
>>339932597
It is a bit basic, but it doesn't need much more. The situations you work around change up a fair bit meaning that you'll have to have your head right around those basic mechanics if you want to do well.
If you plan on 100% the game I might recommend playing on Hard from the get-go. I played on normal and after doing all the side-quests I made the final boss my bitch with minimal effort. The combat was quite satisfying, but I think that a sense of danger was lacking.
>>339925829
> gifs and webms make warrior look amazing
> it's actually boring as shit and one of the worst vocations due the lack of skills and being incapable of hitting flying enemies
>>339932747
Do you ever get to control your other party members? Kaine looks like s/he'd be fun to play as.
>>339932791
>being incapable of hitting flying enemies
Biggest problem with Warrior and Fighter. Sure you can get your pawns to launch you, but it doesn't really solve the problem as well as it needs to.
Fuck harpies to death. Those things are awful without ranged attacks.
>>339931472
>>339932895
Warrior should be able to wield a small crossbow and have at least 5 skills, with one skill slot reserved for the crossbow.
>>339932895
Unfortunately you never play as anybody but MC. Kaine does actually seem to have a relatively fleshed out set of moves but you never get to try her out.
>>339932895
>play warrior
>now all my pawns do is jump attack in place like retards
Went back to Strider, enjoyed my no fall damage and 100% style. Fuck Warrior, the class is nothing but bullshots and broken dreams
>>339932374
The gameplay is nier is basic and monotonous BUT the spear gameplay is actually pretty fun. It's still monotonous but looks really flashy and fun, you just keep dashing all over the place
>muh warrior skill slots muh jump attack
Try playing MH with a melee weapon other than insect glaive against fucking rathalos that won't stop fucking flying.
>>339933120
I preferred the fucking huge sword that you get late in the game but spears were pretty interesting. I liked that small swords, big swords and spears were three totally different ways of playing. Together with the magic system there were actually a lot of different approaches to combat.
>>339932898
Man this looks fun. "Looks" fun. I've tried playing various monster hunter games and I just can't stand the games for some reason. I get so bored of doing the same shit over and over again.
>>339925829
>Quest log: Updated
today I SMASHED THE FUCKING SKULL OF A GRIFFIN
>>339933190
I found the greatsword to be really boring and not very effective. With the spears you can be constantly dashing around the area of combat like sonic spindashing and everything in front of you gets hit.
>>339933175
flash bombs nigga
>>339933003
That's a shame. Can you get any weapons/movesets like hers at all?
>>339933120
>>339933190
I didn't even know you could get different weapon types. I'm not sure why I'm surprised, that was one of the core features in Drakengard as well.
>>339933175
Preaching to the choir, m8. Rath shits are the worst.
I main DB and on the occasion I forget flash bombs, it was an absolute fucking nightmare. I hate those things so much.
>>339933383
Yeah I know, same with 'blos and sonic bombs. But 'blos suck regardless and are only in new games because muh nostalgia.
>>339933342
upgraded greatswords are absurdly powerful. You can eventually swing even the biggest ones fairly quickly and with resource investment they do HUGE damage to everything. And there are tricks you can do to swing faster in certain situations, like using the jump spin attack which has a tiny buildup before it starts hurting things.
>>339933431
There are a whole lot of different ways to set yourself up, playing like Kaine isn't impossible, move quick and shoot big laserballs.
>>339929281
How's it feel? To be that fucking double nigger?
>>339933333
>>339932747
No, Hard mode is not very fun at all. Enemies become insufferable damage sponges and most can kill you in one or two hits.
Keep posting DD and MH, or any actiony webms you fucking niggers
>>339933729
That sounds pretty cool. On normal I was practically god by the end of the game. I actually did the farming too so I had a good stock of items to make things even more trivial. But I got weirdly invested into Nier. Out of the entire last generation it's probably the only one that made me legitimately feel like I loved video games again.
>>339925829
Metal gear online 2 headshots. Game server was turned off though.
>>339925829
Red Dead Redemption. Everyone you shoot falls over like someone in a spaghetti western.
>>339933914
There will never be a MGS character more satisfying to play asBANG BANG BANG BANGBEHOLD, GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS
>>339934075
Good way to get yourself killed using his special
>>339925829
Just to break up the DD and MH posts abit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps-jhR-xny8
Gears of war Sniper headshots were fucking umpf
>>339933245
99% of the time in MH you are undergeared doing hard quests.
The other 1% of the time you are overgearing easy quests for materials you don't need anymore.
>>339925829
>no Severance
>no Rune
Underaged shits everywhere.
>>339925829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31EwNz1ihuw
Getting counter hits on god hand
tfw never be as good as MikeKob ;-;
>>339934075
His backward dodge as well.
>tfw you realise 3 of your favourite games of all time are Capcom games
>>339929281
wow no wonder you don't have any friends
>>339937447
Say what you like about their current trend, but Capcom know how to make fun combat.
>>339937447
capcom makes great games, it's just that their business practices are fucking cancer and they're run by a bunch of morons
>>339925829
Pic unrelated then?
Also monster hunter? Seriously? Both games have fuckingn awful game mechanics and animations, every hit feels like shit
>>339929916
>"MH is not a game for casuals"
>see normies playing high level MH all the time.
If you need to make your self better, don't mind me.
>>339937786
>Capcom know how to make fun combat.
Agree to disagree.
>>339926620
fuck i remember fighting that thing
I was a wizard though so i just kept chucking fire at it
how is cb in cross? Im fine with nerfs as long as it doesnt make it unplayable. I just like the feel of big sword and board
>>339927924
This fucking cat
>>339938524
MH is as deep as you want it to be. It's the right kind of accessible.
You can get to G-rank just by being decent, but if you play well you clear quests much faster and with less headache.
>>339929913
Yes, fucking sleeping dogs
Love that game and this is hella fashionable
>>339930429
pretty much this.
What makes MH so difficult for casuals is that it takes forever to kill a monster. Even the Great Jaggi could take up to 30 minutes to kill on your first time playing which deters a lot of people from the game. I know it did to me. It wasn't until a few years later that I had came back to it and found the game to be super fun. I've had friends who felt this way as well and kept comparing it to dark souls.
>>339938770
>Agree to disagree.
How so? Between RE, Onimusha, DMC, MH, DD and others, there's bound to be something in there that's at least some fun in terms of combat.
I have bo Webms but Max Payne 3's bullet time and dodging, BulletStorm's combat, Sleeping Dogs for the first 10 or so hours, DD and MH maybe. PSO once upon a time, a fighting game I forget the name of where the big fist only brute could kill you in three armoured punches but had to charge four seconds for each hit.
