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How the fuck are you supposed to do well with her?
You aren't. Waste of slot.
>>339921665
Turrets. Don't engage anyone unless they're a lousy shot and you can dance around them. Stay behind and alt fire her weapon. Her Teleportee is amazing though
Can she be played on any other mode besides Defense? I like the idea of having a teleporter to help my team get back to the objective more quickly.
>>339921881
protip: put your teleporter on the payload and have reinhardt defend it.
>>339921881
The teleporter breaks after three uses. It's functionally worthless.
>>339921665
You improve your skills, aka git gud
>>339921943
Six uses and half of the cost is refunded when it's destroyed before they're up.
>>339921665
so far i played the most with symmetra and have
35 matches won
84% of matches won
just only using her in defense.
that plasma ball she shoots goes right through reinhardts shield for example, her laser beam is very deadly on close range combined with your turrents nearby
>>339921943
>3
I bet you walk into your own teleporter too.
>>339921985
I didn't even know this
Now I was already certain she is useless, but someone that puts her even under that.
Might call her a liability instead.
>>339922029
Subtle
>>339922042
She's one of the best heroes, you just gotta be good.
>>339922029
>turrents
Average symmetra player.
Remain designated.
>>339922029
This. Teleporter is extremely useful for defensive maps and a must have in many cases. OP is a dumbshit
>>339922176
He asked how to use her well, not that she was shitty.
>>339921881
Yes she can.
We'veMe and My friendscoined the term hot portal when you play her ult somewhere nearby the object on KOTH or any attack map.
It's fun.
>>339921665
If you are on defence and have a party that are half-decent at defending, she is pretty good. The teleporter can be a real life saver.
I think Sym is ok, and I often use her for defence
I've seen Symmetra get Play Of The Game 3 times in my time playing Overwatch.
Every single time it was an enemy Symmetra
Every single time it was just her jumping around holding mouse 1 with her beam
Every single time, I was pushing the objective and was nowhere near her, and the entire clip is just her tearing through 3-4 of my teammates who were all clustered together not killing her.
>>339921665
>recommending retardedly slow alt fire
The bullet is enormous! There is no escaping! Jumping is useless!
Only play her on point capture maps and King's Row. Maybe Hollywood or Numbani if your teammates are semi-competent.
there's already 21 overwatch threads can you please fuck off to one of them
>>339922360
everyone thinks symmetra is shit so they just rush at her for an easy kill and get smoked by her fully charged beam. most people don't even know it charges up
>>339922252
If you have a half-decent team you arent going to keep dying and thus you don't need a teleporter to make up for how bad you are.
the closer you are pushed to the point the more useless this bitch because, finally when you reach the last point Symmetra reaches a 0.0 value in worth as her ultimate is nullified by default and everything else she has is shit.
A determined look at her turrets kills them, only retards run into her huge slow energy balls and if she goes into melee range so her shitty weapon can do something she gets raped by anyone because they all have better weapons.
And her shields are like a fart in the wind to begin with.
>>339922420
I need healing!
>>339921665
this bitch kills tanks like mad
>>339922721
I love doing my poo in loo dance around roadhogs and 1v1ing them. I'm sure I've made a few of them audibly rage
>>339922501
>you don't need a teleporter to make up for how bad you are.
That is true, but if 2-3 dies and they try to rush it, the team mates come back fast, which can stop a point being taken.
>the closer you are pushed to the point the more useless this bitch
Yeah, you really should change character at that point, which I often do.
>A determined look at her turrets kills them
Aye, any tank, Junkrat, Pharah etc can really ruin your deathwall, but they can really fuck with a lot of characters, and especially when they are under fire from other sources
I kinda wish that they gave her a weapon that didnt reload. shoting balls and then suddenly having to melt people leads to bad reload spots, and you can't plan it in any way
Only play her on the capture the point maps, and only so long as you don't lose point A. Turrets can help effectively lock down chokes along with alerting you to potential flanks. Charged right click goes through shields and hits for 120, so R.I.P Reinbro.
>>339921665
Jesus Christ, how hard is to just find a good place and put turrets?!
There are literally no limit to her turrets, and somehow people doesnt know what to do with her.
>>339921665
poo in loo.
>>339921665
I kind of want to make babies with her, but I heard she has autism.
Is this true?
>>339922721
>Ryujin no ken wo ku- uagh
>>339922891
>deathwall
If you're lining the turrets all up close together, you're doing it wrong. place them sporadically on walls, floors, and ceilings so they can't just take em all out in 1 shot. They have to choose whether to focus on you and take turret damage, or search every corner for turrets while you beam them. It becomes a lose-lose situation for them unless they're winston
Symmetra is a solid team player especially on defence. She won't do anything too fancy, but she can be the difference maker in protecting a point or buying the other 5 some time
> Shield can make a big difference on low health heroes, and it takes next to no time to dish them out
> Teleporter is amazing as it simply gets people to the point 10-15 seconds quicker
> Turrets have lots of options: Cover choke points so you can alert the team if somebody's trying to flank, protect your Bastion and Snipers, disrupt players in the thick of it, group together and decimate anyone who runs past
> Orb projectile is slow but it pierces shields and has amazing range. Great Rein counter, having killed some from the opposite side of the match and watched my team pick apart those he leaves behind
> Other gun option is auto aim. In combo with a single turret, can chew through health of even the most agile
> starts with a shield of 100 so can be quite good at surviving
Her only issue really is Winston, so if you have a Symmetra defending the point, the best thing the team can do is to stop him from reaching her.
>>339922891
Mercy's ulti is a million times more useful and also defeats the purpose of hers - not to mention she gets to charge it faster because she isn't running around slowly putting up slowly recahrging turrets everywhere instead of fighting.
She needs a severe buff, some type of second mode for her ultimate.
She can take care of low hp classes easily - but only if they did the mistake of running headifrst into her shit - considering 99.9% of overwatch players are atomic-cowards who want to sit behind and snipe things this hardly ever happens.
>>339922930
You only get six and they die in a single hit to literally anything.
The only saving grace of her shitty turrets is that one of her turrets still has higher DPS than D.Va.
>>339921724
Reminder that Symmetra has one of the highest win rates of any character in the game.
Reminder that most Symmetra players are skilled or at least have the brains to play her on defence where she is a god-tier hero.
Reminder that you need togit gud
>>339923068
Yeah, I know. I just liked the ring of it.
>Be Attacker
>Someone inevitably yells "THE ENEMY TEAM HAS A TELEPORTER"
>Switch to Tracer and blow it up knowing that it'll be at least another 2 minutes before they'll have another one up
It's just too easy.
>>339922930
I think they recently nerfed her placement options as she could hide them in bushes and stuff to conceal them.
I think you can still place them on props though
>>339923157
>Reminder that Symmetra has one of the highest win rates of any character in the game.
There's a fallacy for this, but the name isn't coming to mind.
Same case like in DotA or LoL where some heroes/champs have very high winrates but aren't ever picked seriously in competitive. Why? Because only autists who 'main' them and play against pubs/scrubs to inflate the winrate.
Then again, Symmetra is picked more than Mei so I think Meifags should be on suicide watch first.
>need a support
>someone picks poo in loo
>3 people on team say "gg no healer" at almost the exact same time
>we are able to win thanks to well placed teleports
I know people seem to think she's shitty , but a good poo is a pretty satisfying thing to have.
>>339922930
>There are literally no limit to her turrets
>cannot be placed on a ton of shit
>theres a 6 limit
>they charge up slowly
The only reason this dumbass thought theres no limit to it because you can keep placing them as they keep getting destroyed by strong winds and the proximity of anyone.
>>339923203
>Implying you can find it.
>Implying you can get anywhere near it before my turrets shit on you.
Nah, faggot.
I want Symmetra to sound my urethra with hard light
>>339923323
Now that's autism.
>>339923106
>you can't have two of the same class in a team composition
>comparing a healer support to a utility support
nice meme. I find it hilarious that people seem to think you can only have 1 support on a team.
>>339923106
>99.9% of overwatch players are atomic-cowards
We must be on different continents, because when I play, it's usually 1 or 2 people running in alone, dying horribly against the other team who have are a lot better coordinated
>>339923017
That only happens if your beam is already at full power because he kills you faster than you can kill him.
Also,
>Be Tracer
>Accidentally walk into Symmetra
>She starts doing that autist thing of hopping around like mad
>Blink back and spray at her, then walk up to bait her again before killing her
>Repeat this every time we run into each other
>End up destroying 9/10 of her teleporters
I swear that guy must have been fuming by the end.
>>339921665
Learn how to place turrets, learn how to dance around people's threat, learn how predict your M2, learn the arc of your laser's leash so you can remain as aware as possible while ripping people to shreds, learn to maintain your shield on people returning to fights, learn to place your teleporter in better places.
Symmetra is easily the bestDefensecharacter on the entire roster
>>339923380
>Implying she would.
It's canon that's she's literally autistic. She wouldn't even know what do with a penis.
>>339923206
You cant hide them inside bushes?
What the fuck
>>339923120
I havent played her much during beta but I remember that a lot of Symmetra I fought just put like 10 turrets at the top of doors near health items and that shit killed real fast.
You really just need to find a good place to hide them where people pass by a lot and put at least three turrets together because their individual damage sucks.
>>339923203
6 turrets literally kill tracer in a second before she has a chance to blink away
>Hanamura defense
>teleporter
>10 seconds left
>reaper wipes four of us
>already back on point a couple seconds later
>four of them quit
>VICTORY
gg no re
>>339923273
>Symmetra is picked more than Mei
How? Are Meifags too busy fapping to shit SFM or what? I thought Symmetra was one of the least played heroes considering I've only come across 1 Symmetra in my whole time from playing the closed beta to now. Do you know who the least played hero is?
>>339923426
Symmetra is a wasted slot - especially if you have a Mercy, understand the point now or do I have to designate it for you?
>>339923454
I'm in the EU
Its either me and maybe one more guy pushing and putting up a front as tanks and everyone else trying to stay as far back as possible taking potshots at the enemy - or even I choose to play something other than a tank and then everyone goes "flanking" which is code for "dying like a bitch alone in an alley"
>>339923520
6 is the max amount and always have been
>>339923530
>Walk into 6 turrets
>Rewind
Alternatively
>Die from turrets
>Tell my team where they are
>Go around them
Yet another alternative
>Get our Pharah or Junkrat to lob some explosives where the turrets are bunched up and destroy all of them at once
>>339921665
watch this guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU
>>339923157
>>339923273
It's not a fallacy it was true in beta. Since they nerfed her shield she has a win rate more inline with the other heroes.
Pre nerf Sym was so powerful that when they nerfed her Blizz Devs legitimately thought they'd broke the game when Defence win rates fell by around 20%
>>339923504
don't ruin my fantasies god dammit
Symmetra is always welcomed if you have a healer.
>>339923482
>Symmetra is easily the bestDefensecharacter on the entire roster
Except how toblerone is better in every single way.
>>339923572
I was talking competitive. Symmetra still has uses on some A defend points.
Mei is literally never picked because people would rather run double Lucio on KOTH.
>>339923572
Because everyone realized Mei is just a downgraded Mcree, there's no reason to play her when you could play Pocket Sand Man instead.
>HURR DURR BUT MUH WALL MEMES
The wall is completely useless unless you're already winning, in which case Mcree is still a better character to have because he can punish the attempt to push far harder than Mei could ever dream of.
>>339923546
Do not deviate from the plan and victory will be ours
>>339923520
On Hollywood A you definitely can. There's also spots like on Kings Row A where you can place them under cars.
>>339923668
Pre-nerf Symmetra was only powerful because she had 50HP shields which would massively buff certain heroes like Tracer and Zenyatta, making them far too durable.
>mfw trying to kill a 200HP Tracer
>>339923017
>>339923467
a symmetra killing a genji using his ult only happens if he's absolutely retarded and has no blinks available, or there are other people in the area helping you kill him or taking his attention away
I have actually never met a tracer who killed me as symmetra though. usually encounter a tracer in a room full of turrets, in which she will either just die from the turrets alone, or die from my beam because she cant decide on a target and is too bloodthirsty just to blink back out
>>339923681
>Toberlone
I think you mean Hard-Countered-By-Every-Current-Meta-Character Man
Place turrets to eliminate flanking lanes. Get ult, put it close to the front lines but not too obvious.
Mercy can rez the whole team once, but a well placed teleporter cuts the death penalty in half for everyone, sometimes for the whole match.
>>339923681
his bullets don't go through shields so he can't counter reindhardt.
>>339923804
Honestly if I ever find a Symmetra holed up in a room of turrets I just enter from the other end orignore you since you can't do shit to me.
>>339923828
For the record - what ability of Symmetra would make her not be killed by anything that kills tob?
>>339923867
>oh no theres this big glowing orb extremely slowly going towards me while she exposes herself to every sniper in my team
>>339923845
>sometimes for the whole match
Don't be stupid. It only last for a few uses and takes a long time to charge.
>Symmetra is bad
explain her winrate then
>>339923594
>tank and then everyone goes "flanking"
Gawd yes. When I tried to main Mercy because in a half-decent team, she is so much fun, I just had to stop as in every escort I would be either alone or with a Rein who walk along side me, every other class ran to each direction.
Often it was two friends I played with on skype, who always picks the most solo-focused-characters in the rooster.
>>339923723
>Wall
>Useless
Not ever
>>339923845
It charges much slower than Mercy and only has 6 uses.
>>339923641
was this like a government sponsored message or something?
>>339923789
symmetra + torbjorn can still give out a shit ton of shield and armor to tracer and zenyatta, making them very versatile
>>339923949
autism
>>339923949
See
>>339923273
Same reason why Bastion still stomps pubs to this day.
>>339923867
It's amazing how few people know her right click goes right through barriers. People are finally figuring out that shit like Zarya is amazing but still don't know some of the most basic shit about this game.
The best part about her right click is that if Rein is using his shield he's slow as fuck, so it's honestly pretty easy to hit him. 120 damage per ball adds up quickly even on someone with 500 health, and if there's people behind him often they won't see the ball coming and they'll get hit by it too.
>>339923982
Torb's armour doesn't regen though and it's dependent on him getting kills first, which makes him far more suited to defense.
Symmetra used to spawn out of the gate and give everyone shields making her team retardedly strong.
>>339923949
very few people play her compared to other characters, so the ones who do consistently play her are good at it
>>339923157
>play hero once
>win
>100% win rate
>that guy who picks Symmetra on offense and costs you the game
WE DONT NEED A FUCKING TELEPORTER FOR PAYLOAD YOU DESIGNATED TRIPLE NIGGER
>>339923920
>what ability of Symmetra would make her not be killed by anything that kills tob?
You know your M1 and M2? Those.
>Oh no, a big orb is coming at me! I better move!
>But wait, my shield prevents me from moving fast enough to dodge it!
>I better drop it so I can get away!
>OH NO I DROPPED MY SHIELD AND NOW MY ENTIRE TEAM IS DEAD
of
>OH NO I KEPT MY SHIELD UP AND ATE IT AND NOW I'M DEAD ANYWAY AND SO IS HALF MY TEAM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MY SHIELD TO PROTECT THEM ANYMORE ANYWAY
Literally get good, faggot.
>>339924046
>120 damage per ball adds up quickly
No it does not when it takes half a minute to shoot one and you still have to reload.
Its dogshit.
It gives away her position, its easy to dodge (if you can call taking a casual step in a direction a "dodge")
>>339924086
actually shield takes damage priority over armor, meaning if zenyatta only takes enough damage to deplete his shield HP, he gets to keep the armor.
>>339924174
>>But wait, my shield prevents me from moving fast enough to dodge it!
Are you serious? I have 5 hours in Reinhardt and it's easy as fuck to sidestep the orbs unless she's at close range, but if she's at close range she's going to die from the rest of my team.
>>339924174
>You know your M1 and M2? Those.
So you are saying an extremely slow projectile easily dodged, and a melee range weapon will make her survive more than an extremely strong shotgun and a pretty good long range weapon?
And you are telling me to get good?
>>339924103
This.
Symmetra is weird. You'll either use her once and never touch her again, or use her all the time because you love how she plays.
>>339921665
missionary
>>339924246
Wrong.
Armor depletes first, then shields then HP.
>>339923895
thats probably the best thing to dothat way the turrets can kill the other asshats on your team insteadand the rest of my team can kill you
>>339924172
>play symmetra on offense
>sneak ahead of the payload and place my teleporter
>3 of my teammates spawn through it and we flank the entire enemy team
>>339924303
This anon gets it.
>>339924310
>Tell my team to throw some rockets/grenades into that room Symmetra is camping in
>Render all of her hard work useless and time wasted
Honestly though, double blink as Tracer will put me out of range of a turret hot spot meaning that I can destroy them from the other side of the room.
>>339924172
The only hero who's truly bad at offense is Torbjorn. Mainly because Bastion can fill that niche role of being Reinhardt + payload's turret far better.
>>339924339
>tfw all 3 of your allies could've flanked anyway because they can climb and fly anyway
Yeah, she helps in the sense that you can slightly control your dumbshit teammates with the teleporter I guess
>>339921665
>place the turrets well
>shield your team
>place the tp as soon as it is ready
>attack healer if they come in a group
You can constantly get potg with her too.
>>339924306
Nope, go try it out. I play zenyatta whenever there is a torbjorn on our team because of this. It makes for good emergency hp when I'm in a tight spot
>>339924416
At least tor can leave the sentry on the cart and walk around and get kills/more scrap.
Bastion is just holding M1 and Rein M2 just waiting for a junkrat or pharrah to rape them.
>>339924306
He's right.
>>339922237
I give this essay a C+
Symmetra needs decent teammates to do well, more so than even Torb, Mercy and Lucio.
>>339924407
>Be Reaper
>Walk into a turret trap
>Wraith form to the other side of the room and destroy all of them
>2 shot that Symmetra thinking she can out damage me with her beam
I like my "get out of jail free" card :3
>>339924687
In another way to say that - she needs other people to make up for how weak a hero she is.
>>339924703
have fun with your noobclass
>>339921665
By not being a scrub
>pick sym on defense
>always run to the start of the map to lay down random sentries that will obviously get destroyed but rack up tp points
>get tp three minutes into the game cause of it
>round is cheese after that
>>339921665
Shield everyone right away and mash e every time theres a group of team mates in view
Use your turrets to effectively lock off a flanking rout to the objective you're guarding
Use right click to harass shielded tanks and group pushes
Dont play her on offense.
>>339924734
I don't think you understand what the word 'support' means
>>339924998
I don't think you are willing a to admit that a support that bring a net loss is fucking shit.
>>339922410
>not picking her instantly in Hollywood
There's a lot of corridors where the turrets can rack up damage easily.
Splash on Pharah's rockets feels kinda small.
That's my only complaint so far.
>>339924407
Ive never seen this happen. perhaps either because of lack of cooperation from the enemy team, or great cooperation from mine.
symmetra is hardly a primary target for most players, she just adds that extra pressure which makes attacking a point that much harder, and not giving the enemy any rooms to recover in.
if tracer goes to clean a room for turrets or kill symmetra, she's left the sniper or builder to decimate the team trying to push to point. by the time she gets to her other targets, symmetra is back up and filling the siderooms with turrets
As someone who plays Roadhog a lot thanks to solo queue, I find her an entertaining free kill, I also seem to nullify everything she has bar the teleporter - but leave that to the more mobile classes.
>>339925161
The dmg should be a little bit higher if you hit their faces. I shoot traces in the face and she still runs around. It's already hard to hit so I want her to die.
And yes, the spalsh dmg is like non existent.
>>339925056
The average win with sym is like 70% way higher than with any other hero. So she is worth it and she is a support.
>pick symmetra right away at the select screen
>nobody chooses a healer
Anyone else have this problem? Its like if nobody sees the 'No Support' prompt that we don't need a healerI do a little trick now. Whenever I want to play symmetra, I'll pick mei at the selection screen, then switch after we spawn in. I faux pick mei because she has the closest role to symmetra, blocking off corridors and slowing enemies, and I want my team to comp build based off that
>>339923273
Case in point: Crystal Maiden, Omniknight and Abaddon all have high winrates but are hardly ever picked at the highest levels of play.
>>339925372
Keep telling that yourself while your team has to push on 5v6 because you are filling room with turrets that get destroyed by the first person to look at them.
>a class that is ONLY played on defense has a higher winrate!!!
who woulda thunk
>>339925430
You are obviously shit with her. So play her and get better and then we can talk again.
>>339925430
>pushing
>on defense
lmao
>>339925372
I don't get why she's branded as a support and not a defense. Her kit fills a niche similar to torbjorn and her weapon largely punishes advancing formations and aggressive flankers. She's very strong but you still want a healer on the team.
>>339925293
If you walk into a side room with 6 turrents, you still get shredded like all the rest.
>>339921915
Pro tip: Pharah will ravage it, and your supportive tight pussy when she lands on top of you
>>339925509
Shield and teleport count as support, I guess.
>>339923634
>Walk into 6 turrets
>Rewind
>Die anyway, because 20 tick server favoring the Symmetra with 50ms more latency than you
>>339925540
Good
>>339925515
No?
I have 600 hp, the bitch either spread out the turrets so they won't all hit me since I'm a slow moving character and won't run into the middle of the room - or put them close to eachother in which case a single shotgun shot takes out literally all of them.
I've never ever died as a roadhog to those things - and then I heal to full, and nullified 2 minutes or turret building in 5 seconds.
>>339925540
>Bonus: Enjoy the Kill-Cam showing you jerking off to her turrets like a mongoloid instead of rewinding.
>>339921665
Put shields on all your teammates.
Place turrets to annoy people and tell you who has passed through where.
Place a teleporter.
She shouldn't be killing things very often if that's what you're worried about.
Shoot the ball at Reinhardt to make him mad.
>>339925509
>She's very strong but you still want a healer on the team
Like the others pointed out, why act like you can only have one support on a team? There are usually multiple offensive or defensive heroes, sometimes multiple tanks, but people usually never run 2 supports
>>339925635
Enemy Symmetra: lol this tracer
>>339925663
The "No Support Heroes" tooltip disappears on the team, making retards and new people think OH HEY WE ALREADY HAVE A SUPPORT NOW I CAN PICK WIDOWMAKER LIKE I ALWAYS WANTED and then bitching when no one's healing them.
Duuude, just walk up to the bastion and press m1, looool, it's so easy maaan!
t Bastardion main
>>339925663
Because 2 support is a big loss in damage output, that simple.
And symm doesn't bring enough to the table to compensate
Look at
>>339925645
>shields - ok
>turrets = annoy
>teleporter = damage control for bad team
>killing? barely
>balls = annoy
So it brings a minor shield for the team and an inferior version of bring people back into battle compared to Mercy - while the rest of her characters purpose is "to annoy the enemy"
I'll take anyone who "kills the enemy" over "annoys the enemy".
>>339925631
I have made a Roadhog switch to Junkrat before on Kings Row to properly clear out my turrents in THAT room. He kep trying to hook me out of the room like a retard after getting completely fried in 2 seconds flat the first time he stepped in.
>>339925827
>Because 2 support is a big loss in damage output, that simple.
Oh wow I wonder why every single pro team in existence consequently run 2 supports permanently, 24/7, every single match. Thanks for opening my eyes anon, I'll make sure to win the next tournament for you!
>>339925890
You know what I would do if somehow I failed in hooking like a shitter?
Ignore you. What'll you do? shoot very very slow balls at me from a very predictable angle?
Even if somehow you can build yourself into a room and defend it well - nobody gives a shit, have your room while we do the objective...
>>339925803
...Around Bastion
... Never give em the satisfaction
>>339926002
Nobody is talking about high level play here buddy, get your heado ut of the toil....I mean the street?
>>339925663
I know you can have two supports. Lucio/Mercy seems pretty popular even in pubs and I would likely never run Zenyatta without a second support around. I just think Symmetra's kit is far more dedicated to stalling enemies than tending to teammates and that makes her a defense.
>tfw just played a game where the enemy bastion never went turret mode and just ran around being a fucking faggot
very annoying
>>339925827
>And symm doesn't bring enough to the table to compensate
her fully charged beam is very strong, especially when you add turrets in the mix
>killing? barely
I get gold medals for eliminations very often with her. I usually get around 20-30 kills in a good game
>balls = annoy
they force bastions out of turret form, allowing teammates to push. they go right through reinhardt's shield, forcing him to either take the hit or sidestep and screw over his teammates
>>339926148
he sounds like a great guy
3 symmetra
18 sentries
3 big glowing balls zoning the shit out of all chokepoints
3 teleporters
Everyone shielded
Life is good
>>339921665
>can literally go toe to toe with offensive characters and even some tanks by just holding down M1 and jumping around them like a madman
>get lots of kills this way
>>339926328
He was a good player, I'm just assmad because he rocket jumped with his tank mode and got a triple kill.
>>339926193
>her fully charged beam is very strong, especially when you add turrets in the mix
>melee range on a 200 hp shit with no mobility or escape moves
>anecdotal evidence that just happens to prove you right, lol
>plenty of other, more useful heroes not just force bastion to move but kill him
>reinhardt with a healer fucking laughs at your shit like its a toddler throwing her toy balls at her, but even without - its so slow unless you are close to him (and thus in danger of being obiliterated by the mentioned team) he can literally just sidestep it with the shield up
This is really tryhard defense, "if all the conditions favor Symmetra she is good"
Well DUH you fucking moron.
>>339922406
It's like the game testers working for Blizzard purposely played without A and D buttons just for shits and giggles.
>>339926368
1 tracer fucking up all your teleporters
gg
>>339926381
You are thinking of Winston.
>tfw just played a defense with my friends with 3 symmetras and 3 toblerones
If you want to make the enemy team salty, do that.
1 tracer dying to 18 sentries
> ITT: People who don't play a character make increasingly inaccurate assumptions of how to play that character
>>339926148
>>339926385
people already complain about turret form bastion camping. If getting kills in default form gets people upset, I'm gonna main him and git gud at it
>>339926486
No Symmetra can kill basically any character with 250 go or less 1v1 with ease if you aren't mentally retarded and can keep your cursor on them.
>>339926019
>lol I ain't even mad that you've completely denied me an entire route to the objective
>>339926081
>I never moved those goalposts. I was talking about some completely different ones
>>339926019
you ignoring her wont stop the rest of the team trying to use the sideroom. symmetra can deny one or two alternate paths to point completely alone, while the rest of the team defends the chokepoint. even better when you have a roamer keeping an eye on the rooms with you.
>>339926464
> He still thinks Tracer is a good Symmetra counter
>When you see your turrets activate.
>It's a McCree, Soldier 76, or Tracer kill.
Feels good, man. I love watching them panic and try to run away but they can't because of the turret's slow.
>>339923789
>>mfw trying to kill a 200HP Tracer
was it anything like trying to kill a 250 hp reaper? or 300 at that time I guess
>>339926464
you just switched to a different class and spent that entire time to counter a single Q press. gg symmetra still won
>>339926863
>Switching heroes to counter another hero.
Wow, it's almost as if the game was designed that way and that's why there's no hero limit.
Wow, what a game.
>>339926650
>denied
You denied it to a roadhog anon, its the tank, it goes on the main route - other classes will demolish the shit out of your room with ease, you know its a team game.
But even then - I'd smash your shitty room either way, shotgun covers half the room from the door while you run from the hook.
>goalposts
Yes you are moving those vehemently, the game is entirely different in pub than in competitive play, but come now tell me about your professional sponsored career as symmetra
>>339926659
Again - how?
Any - ANY - explosive will make a joke out of that "denial", how many games do you see with 0 explosives?
Tracer is hand-made to laugh at your shit since she can just rewind and shoot your shit from and angle afterwards.
I've never seen a route denied to a team for longer than 10 seconds or so...
Feels like you people are solo-shitters running around alone and you think just because this happens to you - it happens to people who play well too.
>>339925385
I have this problem all the time. I really wish Symmetra was branded as a defense character and not support.
I wish your trick could work for me. I regularly see people picking mei and not swapping no matter what, even if theres two of them. I guess a lot of people fell for the maining meme, and play mei because she doesnt require aim or cover-awareness.
>>339926909
she's forcing you to play a certain way, not the other way around. gg. hope you like your little leash
>>339925430
So your team does damage, and spawns back faster than the opposing team thanks to Symmetra.
>place my turrets on the floor and on objects like chairs, tables, or bins
>place two on the ceiling
>everyone is so conditioned to symmetras placing a nest of turrets on the ceiling or upper doorframe that they focus on the top ones first
friendly reminder to place most of your turrets low, and a couple high, my fellow street shitters
>>339926913
I just came into this thread and saw you turbobitching about Symmetra. I could tell those two posts were yours just from the butthurt radiation, and I was compelled to make a post pointing out how you're basically throwing out "nuh uh she's shit" at everything anyone else says to the contrary.
Also, I saw a Symmetra exactly once in the smattering of games I played during the beta, and have never played her. The mad in your posts was just magnetic
>>339926913
my experience is the polar opposite of yours. nobody tries to clear rooms. Ive seen soldier's and dva's do it accidentally with their ult though. even then, the cooldown on turrets is so short and theres always a new place to put them which will pressure the enemy equally.
Ive literally never seen a tracer do anything about symmetra. either she dies to turrets and beam, or she's elsewhere, leaving the turrets to roast everyone else.
I've actually had more trouble with Lucio, maybe beacuse support players are more aware of what symmetra does.
but by all means, claim symmetra is shit like everyone else, she's one of the strongest candidates for a buff even though she doesnt need it. more cries of "worst support" will only increase her chances, and make more players underestimate her.
>>339926913
>happens to people who play well too
Woah woah, lil nigga. I thought we were talking about pubs. Don't invalidate your own bullshit
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2380924?tags=overwatch
post hentai of her, i dont care about your idiotic games.
what mode is mercy actually viable on
I keep getting fuckign steamrolled
I have like a 35% winrate with her and a 75% winrate with lucio. Am I just shit or am I doing something wrong?
>>339926695
For her teleporter, yes.
>>339926863
No tp. No easy win.
>>339928308
/v/ - the postI wouldn't mind seeing it become a banner, tbqfh famicom
>>339928554
>tbqfh famicom
>>339926002
with a coordinated team all on voice chat 2 support is great
this happens maybe 5% of the time (and i'm being generous)
The rest of the time you need damage because you can be sure that half the team will die like morons. If the remaining half is 2 supports and a tracer then you're going to get fucked repeatedly.
>>339928290
>tfw underappreciated waifu
she is entirely reliant on the rest of her team.
If other people pull their weight she can make a defense almost impregnable.
If not she is definitely a waste of a player slot.
People also under-estimate how much damage her LMB can do.
>>339923723
>The wall is completely useless unless you're already winning
Nah fuck off it's got endless utility
>>339928660
Just be happy that she'll stay clean since other guys don't want to touch her.
>>339921665
>accurate depiction of an autistic character in gaming
>drowned out by poo in loo shitposting
Okay...
>>339928845
She's supposed to be autistic? I honestly didn't notice, despite myself also being a legit autist..
>>339921665
She is great in uncoordinated pub games.
No one looks for the teleporter and people tend to let the turrets fuck em up trying to catch you jumping around like an idiot as you M1. You can run up to a reinhardt when the battle gets heated and take him down without anyone noticing.
If the team is working together you are fucked.
Your turrets will be removed before they even step close, their flanker will go after your teleporter as soon as they notice it's up and your orb harass is nothing to a healer.
>>339928660I love her. Need source
>>339928972
It's mostly in the comic. It's pretty basic textbook depiction tho, likes things orderly, hates crowds, can't understand why people have different views, that kinda thing.
>>339929346
>can't understand why people have different views
So /pol/ is autistic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhs3djdx-k
>>339929391
/pol/ is definitely something
>>339929346
They force 4chan memes on her.
>tfw no Indian gf
Say what you will about them being dirty, I've seen some nice looking ones that are also pure.
>>339929843
they're objectively one of the least attractive races, a passable one is very rare.
That's why they stick with indian men despite their comically small penises.
>>339929946
>objectively
You don't know what that word means, my friend.
It's amazing how Symmetra threads are the only ones that have actual fucking gameplay discussion, despite the shitposting
>>339929946
Priya Rai
>>339930918
except she is not attractive and only part Indian.
if she was white you wouldn't even bother with her.
There is some okay Indian porn out there, I have some, but it's fucking rare to find an attractive Indian woman both online and day-to-day.
>>339931049
>if she was white you wouldn't even bother with her.
No shit. If Mikie Hara was white, I'd wonder why a white woman has such squinty eyes. If Bailey Jay were asian, I'd wonder why she has a big nose and a cut dick. I don't use a universal standard for every race because that's an apples and oranges situation, much like complaining about there not being enough 3d movement in Street Fighter or a lack of well choreographed sword fights in a Scorsese film.
>>339925535
Protip: use semetra, rienhart, torbyorn, bastion, and winston to trick the shit out of your ride (the payload).
A car with 6 mini turrets, 1 large turret, a gatling gun, an all directional sheild, and a stronger movible sheild, and a teleporter with 3 people just going around doing whatever.
how would you fix symmetra /v/?
personally i'd give her turret placement really long range. like sniper range, but then also give it a small cooldown to compensate
>>339931350
nah you're completely misunderstanding my statement.
Priya Rai looks like a white bimbo with tanned skin, all she is good for is those 1 or 2 videos where she oiled up because brown skin looks best shiny.
Priya Rai would not look odd if she was white like an asian would because her face isn't typical of an Indian.
>>339922042
>I didn't even know all her mechanics
>Now that I do and know she is better than I thought I think she is worse
Ok. You realize no one will take this seriously though right?
>>339923949
I feel like torb/symmetra/bastion have sort of skewed winrates because of their prevalence on defense which seems much easier given how terrible some of the maps are.
Breaking it down by map/side(attack or defense) may be more interesting to see
>>339926486
Symmetra's weapon grows stronger the longer the beam is attached to someone, Winston's does not. Meaning you only need to hold your beam on someone for a few seconds before even Mercy's heal can't keep up.
im so good at this shitty videogame that whoever I'm fighting breaks my symmetra plays instantly and any turrets or teleporters are gone within 10 seconds of putting them down.
She's a garbo pick for garbo levels of play
I feel the only thing Symmetra's missing is a bit of range on placing her turrets.
It just feels like once you've lost your advantage you never have the time to place turrets well without putting yourself in danger.
Let her toss them a little bit, thats all I think the character really needs
>>339921665
Split up your sentries
I put 3 by the main objective to help the team with defense then put the other 3 in hallway/less traveled path since that's where most of the squishy enemies like Tracer & McCree go.
Teleporter I keep wherever I feel the best hiding spot is, if time is running out I usually put it as close to the objective as possible within reason but it does suck that it's her ultimate
She's a good character but not great & only mediocre at best when on offense
>>339921665
She's my best character kek, 85% win rate as her, anyone who says she is shit is either memeing or too pathetic to play her right
>>339921724
>slots are real
I never realized her teleporter only had 6 uses.
Why?
>>339925535
>Symmetra
>tight
How the fuck are you supposed to protect your turrets? They die if a fucking light breeze goes by.
It seems like some times they just fucking blow up for no damn reason at all.
And honestly, once your turrets blow up, you're basically useless. Her gun is good, but you need the turrets, and they take so long to set up in the heat of battle, it just isn't worth taking the time to do. They either blow up instantly, the enemy pushes in to far for you to set up, or you die.
So, what? What to do? Don't get me wrong, I like Symmetra, but I just find once the turrets are gone, she just isn't worth continuing to play for that round.
>>339921665
I expected there to be a subtle dick outline edited into OP's picture.
>>339928498
Because people are getting semi competent and know to take out the Mercy who can revive and Lucio can defend himself unlike Mercy
>>339921665
You need a better teammates to do well with her otherwise your sentry is as good as nothing once all of your enenmy goes in your trap at once
"Default password"
The lack of Junkrat in these constant Overwatch threads makes me sad
he shits on every situation that isnt a pharah and can fill every role that isnt straight tank or support and often he fills that role better than the character meant to
>>339928498
I only ever play mercy and she's viable on every mode. I only die a few times and it's mostly to roadhog hooks and widowmaker headshots because I use her left shift basically on cooldown to avoid ever getting hit.
>>339927128
Hiding turrets in unexpected places is what drew me to Symmetra in the first place. Sounds a little autistic maybe, but I love playing ambush characters.
>>339923530
Tracer and Genji both get shit on by a smart Symmetra because they move quickly and often get into shit they can't easily get out of, especially if Symmetra is near them. Sure, tracer rewinds but the auto aim gun is still charged which is an easy kill for a half decent Symmetra. Also, Genji can't deflect her M1 or turret fire.
Turret slow + auto aim beam is a nasty combo.
>>339934141
6 people per team, 6 teleport uses. Everyone gets 1 instant "revive". Any more and she'd be OP compared to Mercy.
>>339935606
mercy is picked every match whether the player is good or not
McCree is similar but leans more towards shitters
Pharah gets destroyed by widowmaker who is picked nearly every match
I play Symmetra pretty much every time I can but I never see anyone play her like I do.
I put my turrets at various blind-spots near key objectives, rather than all in one room. This way I am playing more with my team. Also if anyone wants to take ten out they need to take their focus off the rest of the defenders.
Also I never place more than 2 near each other. I have them in spots where fighting happens anyway so I do not need them to do all the work.
Also I love her reload animation.
>>339923941
Sir, you are the one being stupid.
With Mercy using her rez on cooldown, if no one dies one teleporter will legitimately last a whole match. When the enemy team fails to assault the first point, a teleporter can easily last the whole match.
>>339935959
take them out*
>>339934141
I had no clue either
but i guess it does make kinda sense since it an ultimate ability that actively recharges
>>339934141
game isn't as balanced as TF2 so you can't have perma teleports or she would be mandatory on every team.
>>339935562
i fucking love junkrat
outside of bastion, i think he is one of the most effective characters at burning through reinhard shields, you just keep spamming that and sometimes get lucky with the spalsh to kill squishy near him
the passive is also great, the times i've gotten kills from it is countless, watching a retarded mccree die to it randomly is always hilarious
the only thing that i dislike is his ult, it kinda needs more health or a quiter noise, you literally need to flank people before starting it up because its so loud. Any decent player can easily locate it through sound and destroy it
>>339935959
>never more than two together
Generally that's all you need. Two turrets hitting a Roadhog makes him easy prey even if it's just you + two turrets. Two is more than enough to almost kill most squishes if you aren't there and they aren't expecting it.
Overwatch freezes my pc and gives me that buzz of repeting audio, anyone else have this problem?
>>339936240
Today I was playing as Reaper and a Junkrat blasted me into the air over a point with his mine. I used my ulti and wiped their team.
Not very pertinent, but that day I also loved Junkrat.
>>339935959
>Also I never place more than 2 near each other
I consider myself a decently brained player, and whenever I take damage from a turret or see my teammates take damage in a room, I always slowly and diligently start clearing the room, looking everywhere.
I played Route 66 offense last night, she placed 1 turret in the small cave at the beginning, and I was confused because there was only one turret, so I kept looking.
It's actually kind of a mindgame only placing one turret, because you spent a suprising amount of time scanning the nooks and corners of room to find the others.
>>339936240
t. Demo player
>>339935578
I do the same and it usually works well, though I can die when teammates either get killed and/or have all broken LoS
Always satisfying to beat a Lucio team with Mercy
>>339936452
i actually really disliked demo players in tf2, and consider them the hanzo of tf2, you just keep spamming retarded sticky mines long enough and you will eventually get a kill (espcially on competitive, if you dont have a scout on your ass)
>>339936553
junkrat is literally demoman but even easier though
>>339936693
sticky mines are infinitely easier to hit than pipes
junkrat is also a lot more squishy than demo, junkrat does have a real fucking short reload time though
>>339921665
The hand's wrong in your image.
>All these people using "turrents"
It's 'turrets', *turrets* you illiterate swine. If you'll excuse me I'm off to download some fucking torrets.
>>339936791
You realize the comparison here is pipes to pipes, right? Of which Junkrat's are way easier to hit. The sticky comparison here is the shift mine, which is easy as fuck to hit but nowhere near as versatile as Demoman's stickies, but Junkrat gets the trap which pretty much always means a free kill anyway to make up for it.
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Teleports at the beginning of a defense map or near the end of an offensive. Thats about it. Can be the game changer though.
>>339936791
>sticky mines are infinitely easier to hit than pipes
Someone's never played demo.
I shit all over people with the pipe launcher. I can't use the sticky launcher for shit.
Then again, my pipe aim is like 8 for 10.
>>339937057
Yeah, but good demo players use the sticky launcher 90% of the time, you pretty much only swap if you're in direct combat, or can take out a heavy directly or you are forced to against a flying soldier
>>339937896
>Someone's never played demo
Have you ever played or watch a competitive match? You use the sticky launch to zone and for the general aoe damage. You rarely see a demo whip out the pipe launcher, even if flanked because its simply easier hitting the scout with stickies on the ground restricting his movement and just praying for the best
I can't decide if I want to fap to Symmetra or not
>>339921665
Do people really still believe the "Symmetra is bad" meme? She's a monster on defense and her DPS is obscene.
Like, every single time she's on any team it's practically guaranteed she's getting PotG and shutting down any attack.
Are you guys just bads playing with other bads? Still at the level where Bastion is considered anything other than trash?
>>339921665
Put shields on everyone, even after they die.
The amount of Symmetra players who don't refresh shields on dead teammates is fucking astounding.
It's instant, there's no cooldown and no downsides, why the fuck aren't you doing it
>>339931369
>That team build that will easily get buttfucked by most tank characters
Wew
