>start skyrim
>go to riverrun
>get a mission to go to the jarl
>try to kill him
>he's immortal
>uninstall
>play morrowind
>go to balmora
>assigned to kill some rats
>after 20 hits I finally hit one
>uninstall
>play oblivion
>comfy setting without 100% snow or jungle
>balanced gameplay
>perfect story
Oblivion is the worst of those three, though
Oblivion is objectively the best TES game. 100% agree with you OP.
>>339920664
It was good until you said balanced gameplay. Try harder next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGsud6ERzY
Agree OP, Morrowfags will reply with >muh jungle like they do all the time
>>339920664
Oblivion's my favorite of the three, but I like Morrowind, too. Just not as much.
>>339920664
Daggerfall > Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion > Arena
>>339921407
that's the objectively best answer
For all the muh shitty combat and gameplay brotendos, try to install something that tweaks level scaling and difficulty like oscuro overhaul and then add Deadly Reflex, it's the best combat in any TES and i've played tons of skyrim with combat mods. It adds whole new attacks and animations. If you want to play a mage you're probably fucked with any mod, but non-utility magic has been shit in any tes, i'd argue that the concept of combat magic is boring per se.
>combat
Just get 100% chameleon and sneak attack everything. It's always fun when there are in-game tools that feel like cheats.
Where's the Morrowind thread? Someone make a fucking Morrowind thread.
>>339920664
>perfect story
>run errands for some useless asshole that stands around in a temple for half the game
>comfy setting
>only one major topography
>balanced gameplay
>enemy health scales with player level endlessly
>try to kill martin
>he's immortal
Vanilla Morrowind is best
Modded Oblivion is best
>>339921838
>you have a real antagonist instead of an ash nigger and a useless dragon
>actually plenty of biomes instead of 100% jungle and snow%
>challenging combat
not OP but morrowkids are dumb
Oblivion had a great atmosphere at times with some very memorable quest lines but overall the shit it got was valid
If were to replay it i would mod the shit out of it with a focus on model and combat replacement
>>339920664
>>339921848
You dont like the Morrowind overhaul mod?
>>339922568
Not him but I do. I played enough of vanilla to know I really like the overhauled graphics. Well, mostly. Some things like better bodies aren't ideal.
Why the art direction in morrowind is cool in the sense that it's so outlandish, the artstyle itself and the vanilla graphics are pretty fucking ugly.
>>339920664
>Oblivion
>balanced gameplay
heh
>perfect story
HAAH WAAW
Best way to play Oblivion is too never deliver the amulet and never to close the Gate at Kvatch.
That way the portals dont spawn and dont ruin the environment and you got a pretty good fantasy game and world to explore
>>339923394
>That way the portals dont spawn and dont ruin the environment
I think this is really where they fucked up. It really did ruin the gameworld, running into these fucking things everywhere. No more peaceful exploration. Fucking gates to hell and demons in every forest.
>>339923394
Pretty much, leave main quest for last. It doesn't make sense for a lv5 character to be a demonslaying hero of Kvatch anyway.
>missed the Morrowind hype and it's aged like milk
>thought Oblivion was okay
>thought Skyrim was garbage
Why can't I like these games /v/
I like Fallout 3, and New Vegas is one of my all time faves, but I just can't give a shit about Elder Scrolls
What's so good about them?
>>339921974
What does "a real antagonist" even mean? Oblivion's main villain is just as bad as Skyrim's if not only slightly better just because he doesn't die like a bitch by the player. Other than that he's just another generic "hurr I wanna destroy everything" retard.
>actually plenty of biomes
>forest with red trees
>forest with pine trees
>forest with bigger trees
>forest with smaller trees
>marsh
>snow
All games had plenty of biomes and Oblivion had objectively the less varied ones.
Morrowind bros I have a question. If I wanted to make a Magey character, would putting longblades and light armor as majors be a bad idea?
>>339920746
>>start skyrim
>>go to riverrun
>>get a mission to go to the jarl
>>try to kill him
must be 18 or older to post here
>>339924108
go unarmored friend
for that robe gains
>>339920664
>>try to kill him
>>he's immortal
>I'm too shit to play a casual game like Skyrim so I'll just shitpost on /v/ about it
>>339920746
>Oblivion is the worst of those three, though
C'mon OP, Oblivion is my favourite too by miles but saying it had balanced gameplay is just horse shit.
>>339924394
The "essential" NPCs are literally unkillable, you fucking retard.
>>339924013
Well I like them because I think the world and the lore it has is pretty well thought out and for the most part they managed to build a pretty original fantasy universe which also looks good in game. Also the quests in Morrowind and Oblivion were excellent and the game has a shitload of them. Also a pretty good magic system. You were right to think Skyrim is garbage tho imo because it lacked a lot of things that made the previous ones so great.
>>339921407
you've never played Daggerfall or Morrowind have you?
Oblivion>Skyrim>Morrowind>>>>>>Dogshit>>>>>>>Daggerfall
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1464734423528.webm
>>339924784
No they're not dumbass. Jesus Christ how shitty are you at this game?
>>339923786
yeah no, I tried the main quest at level 20 and you literally have to battle 20 xivilai and storm atronachs in kvatch kek
do the main quest first before you do anything else so you battle only scamps so it doesn't because stretch
>>339924013
>I like Fallout 3
I think I found your problem, it's right there.
Oblivion is a travesty of game design. Every single game mechanic is fundamentally broken in some way. Consider just level scaling alone: it means your character grows proportionally weaker as you gain levels. It fills the world with daedric armor-wearing bandits and 1000-HP mudcrabs. It makes all unique items gained from quests useless, as they also scale to your level at the moment you completed the quest. Just this one single mechanic irreversibly fucks up your character, the gameworld and the itemization.
Add to this dumbed down mechanics(AKA muh spears), Disneyworld game design, terrible console-first menu and inventory design, terrible quest design, terrible guilds(they're all just linear series of quests which can all be completed simultaneously, without any interplay between them, as in Morrowind), terrible stealth which makes you invisible to everyone simply by crouching in front of them, terrible dialogs, terrible character models, terrible lockpicking& persuasion minigames, terrible writing...
Pretty much one of the worst game of all time.
Also, let's dispel this notion that Oblivion quests are good. They are not good. 95% of them consist of running around in circles and hitting things with your sword. There would maybe be some exotic, terribly written reason for you to run in circles and hit things with your sword, which is apparently enough for neo-/v/ to proclaim these the best quests ever.
In fact, the only reason that the mediocre DB questline is so highly regarded is that it breaks the monotony of running in circles and hitting things with your sword. There's still no branching, no meaningful consequences, not a single skill or stat check in the entire questline- these are not good quests.
The only people who would find Oblivion better than Morrowind are the <20y.o. XBox kiddies who played Oblivion before they would know any better. It is the ultimate nostalgia-goggles game. And I'm not even particularly fond of Morrowind.
>>339924957
That second sound is incredible.
>>339924784
Lmao. How fucking bad are you at this game?
>>339920664
how many more times are you gonna post this, captain autismo?
>>339925078I liked the lockpicking.That's all I can say in defense of the game.
combat is utter shit in all of them
Morrowind is "alright" because it makes it more of a stat dependent RPG and MAYBE Skyrim is "okay" as well(but I'd rather say it's just not as atricious), because it's getting a bit better than Oblivion.
I really hope the next TES game will have combat like Dark Messiah or at least like Dishonored.
>>339925078
nice copypasta senpai
>>339925120
Is 'Lmao' fashionable now? I thought 'kek' and its derivatives was the only acceptable form
>>339925326
It's entirely correct though, even if it's copypasta.
>>339920664
>Riverrun
>>339920664
>Riverrun
>>339923394
Gah, so that's what I did wrong.
>>339923695
It's what made me quit. I just got so bored with them.
>>339925671
Same.
>>339925453
It's Zozzle and Kizzle now.
I feel old.
>>339925453
If you care about this at all you are a huge faggot.
>>339925012
>and you literally have to battle 20 xivilai and storm atronachs in kvatch
Fitting. What, were you fine with fighting those 3 scamps at lv1 that supposedly ruined the whole city?
>>339920664
>Riverrun
>>339925772
top jej'ing at your life
It was not perfect by any means but Oblivion is still my favorite. I just wish I didn't advance the main quest so I could just go fuck around everywhere without the fucking gates.
Just playing for the first time. Do I need to finish the main quest to access SI? Right now the face portal is telling me I'm not worthy.
>>339925326
Its copy-pasta because its true.
Fallout 3 was not called oblivion with guns as a compliment in 2008.
>>339920746
>>339924784
you need to work harder
>>339925078
I agree with this 100%.
I really don't get people bitching at Morrowind.
>miss miss miss
Pick a weapon that you will use and then use it, don't just make a blunt weapon character to use shortblade. Use blunt weapon. You will hit 85% of the times. By lvl 3, you will hit 100% of times even with low fatigue.
>>339926137
I think you just need to hang around a little while. There's no level requirement and it's not needed to complete quests before you enter. Just wait till the crazy guy comes out, kill him, sheogorath will start talking and when he's done you can enter I think
>start Oblivion
>assume I'm one of the assassin's because I'm in jail
>try to kill the emperor
>he's immortal
>forced to use the console to kill him
>game breaks because of this, can't progress
>wtf
>uninstall
>>339920664
>perfect story
Okay, I dont remember it very well but I'm pretty sure all I did was close Oblivion gates and send Dagon back to his realm.
How is that a perfect story
>>339920664
>not wanting snow
pleb.
>>339925790
well the fucking soldiers you battle with don't level sooo
>>339920664
>start skyrim
>beautiful world
>explore
>get bored
>uninstall
>start oblivion
>interesting world
>good story and quests
>comfy atmosphere
>shit gameplay
>uninstall
>start morrowind
>incredible unique world
>gloriously insane lore
>quests and story better than most RPGs
>comfy ambient atmosphere
>melee combat could be better
>love the game and play it for hundreds of hours
>start daggerfall
>miles upon miles of absolutely nothing
>shit gameplay
>shit story
>uninstall
>start arena
>uninstall
what's it like to pound a khajit girl's asshole??
>>339927012
hairy
>>339926901
Install some gameplay mods for Oblivion and it becomes easily the best
>>339926612
You didnt send Dagon back, you watched someone else do it
How do you actually get more skilled at being unarmored?
>>339927103
*waifu mods
how many times do you need to post this until you're satisfied, buster?
>>339927103
>gameplay mods
not him but pls gib a few
>>339925453
>actually caring what some fat autists think
Use whatever the hell you want, holy shit
>>339926569
>assume I'm one of the assassin's because I'm in jail
Is this what real autism looks like, lads?
I'm getting so much micro stutter on oblivion, how do I fix pls
>>339927254
get your ass whooped. repeatedly.
>>339924843
>Quests in Morrowind were excellent
Yeah no, they had A LOT of flavour to them but they were all FedEx or kill something.
>>339927880
The two most important steps is doing something about world scaling and then doing something about the tedious illogical way your own level up works.
The first point is addressed by (I think) any of the major overhauls, with Oscuro being the most thorough. If Oscuro is too drastic for you, Francesco and Maskar address level scaling in a less aggressive way by simply imposing upper bounds on npc levels and equipment.
As far as leveling goes, Realistic Leveling makes the whole process more pleasant while staying close to the vanilla system. If you don't mind straying from vanilla, Oblivion XP is also excellent.
After that you can start thinking about combat mods. Vanilla Combat Enhanced is simple and unobtrusive, while Unnecessary Violence or Deadly Reflex are more of an overhaul of combat mechanics. Then you can consider Supreme Magicka and maybe something for archery if that's your thing.
>>339925078
>95% of them consist of running around in circles and hitting things with your sword
But... Isn't that every video game ever?
Would you rather have
>All Elder Scrolls regions and content created in Morrowind Style and Engine.
>All Elder Scrolls regions and content created in Oblivion Style and Engine.
>All Elder Scrolls regions and content created in Skyrim Style and Engine.
>>339921551
the thing is, modding in Oblivion is a pain in the ass and even more buggy than skyrim's modding.
No thanks
>>339928381
>Oscuro
I watched a video with it, seemed too wild/clusterfuck, but maybe the player had other mods on too.
>Oblivion XP
Tried this, seems fine, altought it feels a bit strange.
>Vanilla Combat Enhanced
Tried this one and I don't know, still took too long to kill each other with a bandit.
I'll give Oscuro a try after exams.might get some body and sex mods for some ficki-ficki too
>>339923695
>>339925671
>>339925710
how about you just finish the main story?
>>339929129
>altought it feels a bit strange
Oblivion XP is radically different, but it completely eliminates the issue of you standing around doing repetitive shit to level up less used skills.
Oscuro does add new monsters and equipment, but it shouldn't be too much of a clusterfuck even with the new addons. Its main feature is making the world static like it was in Morrowind, while also introducing many unobtrusive fixes like damage balance and altered market prices.
>>339929379
After the nth gate I had to close while trudging through the same convoluted, empty, copy-pasted oblivion world mixed in with the most mundane 'real world' quests imaginable, I just couldn't do it.
>>339929129
Oscuro is a clusterfuck, use Maskar's instead. It's completely customizable and updated regurarly.
>>339930175
add to that the pants-on-head retarded level scaling, and you've got yourself an unplayable unused-potential-the-game.
>>339930237
>Maskar
>pic related on nexus
doesn't look too promising either
>>339930614
That's a one of a kind named boss.
>>339930695
okay, but come on, why THAT armor and sword?
also this
what the fuck even
>>339930816
It does have a bunch of features nobody sane would ever use, but it's modular, it asks if you want taming/crafting/climbing/whatever during installation.
>>339930614
>>339930816
Why don't you read through the posts here and the mod description, you retarded fuck. It's completely modular.
>>339926901
>start morrowind
>find super cool sword
>steal it
>try to kill random NPC
>miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
>uninstall
>>339930978
>>339931079
I'm sorry, but it seemed to me that even if it's modular it would only mean that
>Want feature no. 5436?
>Yes
>here sparkling anime tier stuff everywhere
>No
>okay keep playing the same game
or at least this is what I'm used to from other mods and stuff
>>339931371
There are .ini files for every feature, and you can easily customize it even more by including other armors/equipment.
>>339931474
cool, thanks
>>339924108
Make a spell that only costs 1 mana and cast it endlessly to skill up in your chosen magic school.
Go blunt weapon and carry a staff if you want to roleplay.
>>339921647
It died, make it yourself
>>339928530
Morrowind style.
I'd go with oblivion but the fuck ugly npcs and walled city's are a deal breaker.
Styria style would make the imperial city even fucking smaller
>>339931703
No, there's one that's been up for hours now.
>>339921865
You know it's one oblivion shill that creates all these threads right? He even tries to convince people on /tesg/ that his tragedy of a game is good. You're only lying to yourself.
Oblivion is the transition from rpg to "action" trash, it lacks the freedom of morrowind or the generic action game experience of skyrim, scaling was fucked meaning you never felt stronger as you leveled, the setting was boring generic rolling hills trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN80_7rNmcE
