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5 years of development so far$115 MILLION raisedcompany full of experienced game


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>5 years of development so far
>$115 MILLION raised
>company full of experienced game makers


>not even showing up to E3 because they don't even have a game to show.
>still selling new thousand dollar .jpg ships in concept sales

PC GETS BTFO AGAIN
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>>339906308
>company full of experienced game makers
lol wut
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>>339906308
just sit back and let the memes unfold, friend-o.
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are they really charging thousands of dollars for these ships. whats the reasoning with this
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>>339906308

>still selling new thousand dollar .jpg ships in concept sales
Wait, I didn't check up on it recently. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE FOOTAGE IN-GAME YET? People are literally buying it based on concept art?
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>>339906520
For the consumer to have an illusion that they have worth.

Look at CSGO skins.
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>>339906520
People are idiots and will pay huge amounts of money for make believe shit.
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>>339906580
Of course they do.
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>>339906580
last time i checked it was that webm of how broken it was. you place a crate infront of where the landing doors open and the space ship flys into space like a cannon?
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>>339906628
>>339906604
why isnt there riots about a thousands of dollars being spent on digital items for an unreleased game
wheres the press when you need them

how the fuck is this a thing.

15,000 united states dollars. like a legit fucking college tuition for a digital ship that takes up like maybe 32 bytes on a server.
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dont they already have something that looks like a playable game?
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>>339906798
Yep.
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>>339906795
>wheres the press when you need them
In the companies pocket.
They've got all that money from the idiots, just pay off the media and hire lawyers.
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>>339906798
They have about as much of a game as No Mans Sky except No Mans Sky doesn't charge thousands of dollars for pretend ships.
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>>339906795
>for a digital ship that takes up like maybe 32 bytes on a server.
yes the games balls retarded but dont be stupid. the icon alone is bigger then that. of course size of the file alone shouldnt mean shit because otherwise morrowind or daggerfall is the best value for money a man can buy.
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>>339906963
When did NMS become playable anon?

SC's been playable for years in varying states.
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>>339906308
If you think anyone is gonna make a ruckus after spending 5 grand on a game, you're kidding yourself. It is the perfect scam, its like Scientology. They need to double down on believing or they'll look stupid for wasting their money.
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>>339906308
What does Star Citizen have over Elite Dangerous besides a less incompetent dev team?
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>>339907335
That implies E:D has anything worth playing it for
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>>339907058
>SC
>playable

lol
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>>339907640
>SC
>Not playable

lmao
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>>339906308
I still love going on twitter and looking at the people that spent thousands of dollars for a virtual ship for a game that they haven´t even played yet

they are all fat, ginger, leftwing, white men with glasses that look like the very definition of a cuck
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>>339907335
isn´t Elite Dangerous just a empty space simulator?
I stil don´t get where the fun gameplay aspect of the game comes in

it´s just flying around in empty space doing boring doge figths
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>>339908053
It's funny how cuck lost its meaning in a little under a year

Before: some who gets off to seeing their partner have sex with other men
Now: liberal, or someone who looks like a liberal
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But they never had plans to show up at E3. They will have a booth at Gamescom
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>>339908407
No the word still has all of its original meaning.
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>>339906308
>not even showing up to E3
Theyre going to Gamescom though
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>>339908563
Not really.
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People who fall for scams do so willingly. They might realize it's a scam, but they don't believe that they're the target, they believe they're in the scam at the top of the pyramid. People could want Chris Roberts to run for President, after he took their money and delivered nothing.
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>>339908152
it's really just grinding and pvp imo. if you cant handle some grind and you don't like pvp it doesn't offer you anything else of value.
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>>339908407
nah I think it´s just your political bias speaking

it still is very relevant nowadays
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>>339906795
Hard mode: How is this any different from Blizzard and Valve and a million other devs selling cosmetics at any other price? Why is it the drastic nature of the pricing and not the concept at all that alarms you?
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>>339908407
Hey at least you're not Anthony Burch
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>>339908053
How do you know they're left wing?
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>>339908407
Actually, it means someone who lets others take advantage of them. You dipshit.
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>>339908753
Count my blessings every day
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>>339908756
by their positive posts about blm, feminism, obama or sanders

mostly you just have to search a little bit in their post history to find something like "White men are just the worse, Anita is right games shouldn´t feature them anymore" or some shit like that
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>>339908748
because he can't stand it when people are having fun with games that are not made by his favourite brand errm developers I mean
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>>339908861
No, that's what it's developed into, but before it was always pertaining to being cheated on, whether the person was aware of it or not.
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>>339907727
>he fell for the scam
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>>339908861
So, not at all what "cuck" means, then. Moron.
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>>339909060
explain how it is a scam please
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>>339906308
This isn't a PC problem, anon. It's a shitty developer problem. How you somehow flipped this as a platform problem I'll never understand. You must have a terrible life. Anhero now.
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>>339908748
because Blizzard and Valve actually make playable games
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>>339909181
You keep look at Star Citizen as if what you have now is the final product. It's still being developed
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>>339909098
OP pic does a decent job of that I think.

And let's not lie, SC has less content than fucking Elite Dangerous. What's it like flying around a massive empty world with no content?
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>>339909270
So far you've also described Elite Dangerous
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>>339908748
It's not, but it's especially agregious when a developer takes it to the extreme like these fucks. The only benefit is that almost no one will buy it so they aren't actually going to get much if any money off of this.
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>>339909270
>OP pic does a decent job of that I think.

Do you?
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>>339909252
>I-I-It's not done yet!!!

lol
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>>339906308

Who thought this was a good idea? It's going to be a dozen millionaires playing together because everyone else realized they'll never fucking have any of these ships because of how much they cost.
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>>339909270
Buying those ships is a way of donating more money. Elite Dangerous is actually a finished product, whereas SC is still in the development process.

>>339909342
It's not, whats the problem?
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>>339909325
and I think that's an empty unplayable game too? Still has way more to do that SC without the ridiculous transactions

>>339909339
>doesn't even argue with the picture in question

Apparently I dont need to.
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>>339906308
Reminder that Chris Roberts is the Molyneux of space sims. Every single game he ever made was late and under delivered. People were fools to trust him with that much money.

I still remember the Elite Dangerous/Star Citizen threads back in the day, which somehow painted Elite as the vaporware despite being made by an actual company with a decent track record. Even as Elite was playable and feature complete, though boring, /v/ kept cheering for Star Citizen which would obviously be better, albeit still not in a phase you'd call alpha.

What a huge industrial accident, and a fucking waste.
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>>339909326
>The only benefit is that almost no one will buy it so they aren't actually going to get much if any money off of this.

Was that a joke, or what

>>339909478
Argue with what, anon?

Theres no argument presented.
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>>339909427
>buying in game content is a way of "donating"

You are shilling so hard I'm not even going to argue with you anymore.
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>>339909009
what game
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>>339909487
Nobody called Elite vaporware, just mind-numbingly boring.

They were entirely right. Nobody gives a shit about a boring game; its failing at its primary and sole function.
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>>339909590
>Nobody called Elite vaporware

Just how new are you?
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>>339909559
You're so fucking dumb. Its like on kickstarter you can set the amount you want to donate. All the ships you are buying can be bought in game eventually.
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>>339909512
the picture in the OP? I was referencing it in the comment you replied too?

>>339906308
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>people getting mad at how other people spend their money

I've legit never understood this. Like I cannot comprehend what goes on in someone's brain that makes them seriously upset when someone else spends their money on X when they wouldn't. Does not compute.
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>>339909646

Yeah I'm gonna hold my breath on being able to afford a fucking ship they sell for 15K USD.
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>>339909487
SC is still being developed whereas development for ED has stopped. You can judge SC when the final product is released.
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>>339909646
>defending being able to buy all the game content with $$

So people who pay are going to be better than everyone who doesn't? Why are you defending this shit?
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2.4 public when

Was it Kong or VED that made this thread?
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>>339909659
Yeah, a picture isn't an argument.

I can't argue against some vague concept that you're too autistic to feel the need to articulate.
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>>339906308
>not even showing up to E3
In order to show up to E3, they must either
>do so under a console/publisher's presentation but they're not on consoles and they're their own publisher
or
>pay an exorbitant amount of money to have their own presentation which they already did not that long ago
>>i-it's just because they don't have a game to show
>>y-yeah that's it!

Not even a fan of the game but your attempt at shitposting is pathetic
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>>339909686
I'm not actually mad. If retards want to throw millions of dollars at a game which will never come out, then that's their problem. I'm just going to laugh at them while they do it.
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>>339909590
Check the old threads anon, you'll be surprised. Both SC and ED aimed for the same thing, and people said ED couldn't do it with its much smaller budget, and that extra features like planetary landings would never see the light of day. Yet they're just out of beta.
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>>339909736
>Why are you defending this shit?
I'm not. I'm explaining the thought process of why you are able to buy the expensive ships.
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>>339907183
>It is the perfect scam, its like Scientology. They need to double down on believing or they'll look stupid for wasting their money.
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>>339909686
It's less being obsessed with other people's spending habits, and more wanting to stop people from supporting a snake oil vendor
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>>339909724
The $15,000 pack is for multiple ships anon. All of them, in fact.

Furthermore, you can't operate the largest ones yourself. Group purchases are more likely.
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>>339909779
>picture clearly outlines terrible business practices
>a p-p-picture isn't an a-argument; AUTISM!!!

More like you have nothing to say because you know you're shilling out the ass
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>>339909252
>develop game for 5 years
>turn out a disjointed pile of shit

acceptable if you're a small team of modders doing it as a for fun project on weekends. not so much if you're a team of professional developers with a $115 million dollar budget
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>>339909736
I"m getting a Space Sim that will have over $140,000,000 invested in it at the end of the day why wouldn't I defend it? If someone wants to throw their money and buy virtual space ships that's their prerogative.
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>>339909850
So you admit it's a jewy practice for a shitty game?
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>>339909876
What terrible business practices, anon?

Feel free to actually say what you feel is distressing you this much anytime. The rest of us will wait for you to stop sperging.
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>>339909891
Most MMO's have development time of 7 years and this has a single player as well.
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>>339909953

You really are retarded.

>>339909736
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>>339909891
>not so much if you're a team of professional developers with a $115 million dollar budget

So in other words, SC is absolutely fine.

The studios creating it didn't even exist 5 years ago.
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>>339909872

That's neat.

I really hope the game DOES deliver. I hope I can just dog fight in it like Space Cowboy/Ace Combat.
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>>339910016
Oh, okay! Thank you for actually linking an argument.

No, thats not the case. Currently the most expensive ships are getting shit on, and skill dictates engagements far more than ships themselves do.

Besides, I'm not sure how you're objectively better by having ships when they're not straight upgrades. I'm glad I could clear that up for you!
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>>339909901
>the amount of money the company invests makes the game

So you must love game like The old Republic, The Last of Us, the new Battlefront, ect.
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>>339909725
>development for ED has stopped
Pic unrelated.

Next they're tackling 3d NPC models, and seems like walking around ships will come along with it. Oh, and a complete redesign of the current quest system.
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>>339910059

You can already do that in arena commander. And the racing is super fun. Very difficult at first. I'd do it more often but my framerate is super shitter. It used to be better when it first came out. Hope it gets better again.
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>>339910196
Goodie, another $60 DLC that ends up being devoid of any actual enjoyment
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who KWA here?


>>339910187
The Last of US and the new Battlefront were not expensive games in the AAA space if you take away their marketing budget.
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>>339909945
Not because no one is forcing you to buy the ships. If you feel like donating more money you can be the expensive ship package, getting to fly the ship is a perk
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>>339910261
>development stopped!
>wow this is just DLC

Fuck off.
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>>339909891
You think Rome was built in a day? Developing a game of this magnitude takes time.
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>>339908407
You just wrote the same definition twice
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man theres like this area of online space gaming where people buy things for huge amounts of real money. Just found out about it the other day. Shit is bizarre
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>>339910341
Not that anon, just expressing my frustration at their shitty practices and inability to make a fun game.
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>an argument I linked forever ago
>he's still defending the shitty business practice

Somehow I don't beileve that if you spend $1,000 on a ship, it won't be better in someway than the $80 ship. I'm sure you don't believe that either.

Sc shills are hopeless. Might as well defend your game empty game with no content and no player base.
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>>339910261
Most improvements are out of the scope of expansions. Still, the point is the game is still very much in development, and making progress.
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>>339909736
>>339910016
Joining the game at launch with a non-p2w copy and seeing people running around in $300 ships is functionally equivalent to joining a non-p2w game a month after launch.

They're buying into a head start. It's not that big a deal
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>>339910429
>>339910139
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>>339906795
because it's not players buying the ships, its a giant money laundering scheme.
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>>339910429
>Somehow I don't beileve that if you spend $1,000 on a ship, it won't be better in someway than the $80 ship.

I mean, thats whats happening right now and has for some time.
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>>339910486
Its not even that bad.

The CHEAPEST ship in the game - the Aurora - has the largest cargo capacity of any single seat ship. They all have their niches to fill.
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>>339910286
The point still stands; I see you didn't bother saying anything about ToR.

>>339910486
>it's a head start
>it's a donation

Make up your fucking mind.

Also let's not pretend this game isn't still going to be in EA in 2 years from now;at the rate they're going this game will never come out.

Then again I guess that's the point of scams.
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>>339910429
It's kind of funny how upset you are at how people spend their money. Anyway, I'll try and explain one last time. Instead of just allowing people to donate whatever amount of money they want, they decided to set up a system where you can buy ships for different amounts of money. In doing this you support the development of the game and as a benefit get a ship you can fly around.
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>>339906520

Those ones are packs of a bunch of ships.
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>meanwhile, a crazy russian proved he can do it for $250,000, but no one will give him money: http://en.spaceengine.org/index/funding_and_donations/0-26

Shits fucked.
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>we will never get a freelancer sequel
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>>339910674
>at the rate they're going this game will never come out.

Literally been faster and faster development at an increasing rate for some time now, anon.

Slow as shit when the studios DIDN'T EVEN EXIST and the team was a dozen people, sure. Now though? Pretty speedy.
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>>339910676
>>339909559
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>>339910729
You can, just ask Microsoft Game Studios because they made the game, not Chris Roberts.
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>>339910674
TOR is a MMO that spent a third of it's budget on voice acting of all things and it also made it's money back many times over.
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>>339910878
I think you forgot your point
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Star Citizen was already going to take ages to make, before the absurd stretch goals turned it into the most ambitious video game project of all time.

More money you make, the longer you can afford to develop the game.
People seem to have the misapprehension that more money means a faster released game, when that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Let me make everyone angry:

>Limit Theory
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>>339909009
How much did you spend so far?
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>>339910674
>>it's a head start
>>it's a donation
>Make up your fucking mind.
I never called it a donation, maybe the posters you're replying to are different people with different opinions on the subject
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>>339910715
>proved

You're using a very loose definition of that word.
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The best space game is already out
inb4 >muh spreadsheets

It's an entire scale galaxy populated by thousands of other people with hundreds of kinds of ships and hundreds of modules to customize them with and hundreds of skills to learn. It just seems like CCP has got such a head start on everyone else I don't see how anyone can catch up feature-wise.
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>>339910934
They are also using a irritative development model which takes even longer.

>>339911002
I haven't heard anything from Limit Theory in 5 months is it even still in development?
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>>339911116
Everyone is, anon. Literal proof is extremely rare. People use it synonymously with evidence
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>>339911161
>only difference in ships is numbers
>only difference in weapons is numbers
>can't exit ship and walk around besides the two rooms on stations
>no ground combat/exploration
>no collisions

no thanks
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>>339911161

Make the combat not boring as fuck and it would be the best game in the world. But its boring as fuck
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To me this game is just a lot of tech demos that won't be able to be meshed together as smoothly as the people spending thousands on it think it will.
Also

>CryEngine
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>>339911161
Its a game that relies heavily on player agency, while seeminly disregarding everything else.

Which is cool as a concept, but I find it tedious as all fuck.
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>>339911297
I honestly think it's all the traveling that kills EvE, not the combat.
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>>339910934
I'm a software project manager, more money DOES make shit come out faster.

The problem with Star Citizen is they quite simply kept changing their objectives. They made a proof of concept in one engine before switching to another, they made poor technological choices with that next engine considering they had no proof of concept made for it but still decided it was suitable, they realized their mistake too late when it turned out it couldn't do it without massive improvements, they changed the design of the game because "wow we got more money now so we can do better", and went onto hard development without any precise plan, there is a severe lack of direction which makes them pretty much stuck in development hell (work is done, but no one aims for any sort of goal), they missed countless deadlines which hurt morale and confidence...

I'm genuinely thinking about writing a book on the whole thing, because it's a perfect example of atrocious project management and there is much to be learned from it.
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>>339911235

Regardless, he also lacks evidence. He lacks any indication at all that he could follow through on his goals.
Star Citizen, meanwhile, is actually playable, albeit in a bare bones state. I don't see why you're putting more stock in that guy than SC.
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>tfw no freespace 3
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>>339911420
>I'm a software project manager, more money DOES make shit come out faster.

Only when you're adding funds to a game with a clear end goal. With crowd funded games, you need to expand the games scope every so much you make, which leads to longer and longer development times.
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>>339911116
He built the best space engine of the current era on a shoestring budget. That's the best achievement/person ratio in the space-related software department.
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>>339911420
The original tech demo was in CE3, just like it is now.

Also, the deadlines were genuinely retarded. Chris can be solely blamed for that shit. Not even anything to do with them dragging their feet on development, either. Just really, really unrealistic goals.
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>>339911420
Typical software is a different beast from vidya. With software, you want something to do X so you program it to do X. No matter what your budget is, that's what you're trying to achieve.


With a video game, a dev wants to do all sorts of crazy shit, and how much of that shit they can do is dictated by their budget. The higher the budget, the more shit they can afford to add, and the longer it takes to develop the game they want to develop.
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>>339906308
No one goes to E3 any more
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>>339911161
>It's an entire scale galaxy

It is just a star cluster, not an entire galaxy. Jove space cuts our cluster off from the rest of it.

>populated by thousands of other people

Rarely more than 100 in a system at a time

>with hundreds of kinds of ships

Cruisers online.

>and hundreds of modules to customize them with and hundreds of skills to learn.

Which requires a sub to earn. No leveling in days, takes months to be good at anything.

>It just seems like CCP has got such a head start on everyone else I don't see how anyone can catch up feature-wise.

The truth. Eve isn't perfect, but nothing comes close.

You missed the entire point of Eve though. It is great not because you have hundres of systems, but because it is a lawless area run entirely by players. The market is 99% player run, and there is no punishment for scamming or attacking others.
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>>339909512
>114 million
>still not even a beta
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>>339911558
>With crowd funded games, you need to expand the games scope
That's why most crowdfunded projects establish a roadmap of what they'll do, and fix a hard limit on it. So yes, more money "unlocks" stuff, but they don't redesign the whole thing from the ground up everytime a dollar hits the ground like Star Citizen did.

>>339911609
First tech demo was in Unreal Engine.

>>339911649
A video game is just like any other project, they're simply very often poorly managed and get into production without even being properly defined. Though don't think that never happens in other industries, but there are ways to anticipate such issues, which aren't applied in the vidya indistry. Tons of video games were managed incredibly well, though you never quite hear about it, because it goes so smoothly there's no reason to talk about it.
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>>339912020
see >>339910934
>People seem to have the misapprehension that more money means a faster released game, when that couldn't be further from the truth.
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>>339908706
>cosmetics vs ships
>$15,000 vs $5


Gee I dunno guys. What's the difference?


Lots of buyers remorse ITT. Ever notice all the people who have bought into SC are all people who don't really play games much but just spend a lot of money on the next hype?
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Literally a cult
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Why no Eve style economy with ED style graphics, universe and Star Citizen ships, physics, combat.
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>>339909325
Same game but a fraction of the price cheaper lmao and with more content
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>>339906795

Technically, this is supposed to be something like an extended kickstarter.

If you pay the 15000 dollars, you arent buying 15k worth of content. You are making an donation to see the game done (kek) and be rewardes getting the Best ships in the game unlocked.

Kinda like the higher tiers in kickstarter donations
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>>339912279
Because people would rather antagonize each other than work together, and support the same kinds of concepts.

As of today, you are only allowed to like one of the three.
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>>339912194
>First tech demo was in Unreal Engine.

No it wasn't.

It was always CE3. Even says so on the kickstarter.
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Chris Roberts is a well known fraud. I feel sorry for anyone who contributed towards this blunder
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>>339912273
what the fuck...
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>>339912440
Doesn't say so on the original website, nor on what you can see on Chris Roberts' screen in countless early videos.
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>>339912279
An Eve style anything would be risky to implement because the ability to get screwed over with zero consequence is a major turn off for most pussy "gamers" these days. Eve's market works so well because it operates in a nearly pure capitalistic environment. To put it into a highly policed environment with restrictions on player interaction would ruin it.
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>>339910680

Kek, it's still just pixels.
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>>339912209
>catslut
Common but good choice.
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>Star Citizen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlWQ3s5Xc8
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>>339912279
Because that wouldn't work at all?

You know that EVE slows down time to account for its severe lag issues, right?

Try playing a first-person dogfighting sim or FPS at 10% speed or worse.
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>>339912279
Eve style economy is a Sandbox MMO. Eve is also shit last good sandbox was Galaxies.
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>>339912273
Jeez dude there are plenty of religions that don't even make you pay shameful amounts of money for happiness. If you're that unsatisfied with life why not go be Buddhist or find some chill Christians who don't beg for money like televangelists? Seems like it would be cheaper.
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>>339906308
>thousands of dollars
Is this in game currency
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>>339912542
This is the kickstarter.

Does it say UE3 on the website or are you just going to admit you're talking out of your ass
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>>339912209
/vg/ was always furfags.
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>>339912571

Just like everything in every game.
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>>339908407
>It's funny how cuck lost its meaning in a little under a year

It didn't, the definition simply expanded to include anyone that allows themselves to get screwed over, like the word "faggot" that has several definitions.
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> Not mortaging your house and getting ten of the completitionist packs
You fags will sure look dumb while I ride in the most expensive game in the best videogame in the universe
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>>339908748
Because cosmetics doesn't affect gameplay AND is like 3 bucks
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>>339912552
That lawlessness was the only thing I liked about Eve. Being paranoid as fuck since space is a terrifying place. More so the people in it.
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>>339912750
>It didn't
>proceeds to explain how 2 terms lost their meaning
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>in stock
AWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA how the fuck do you run out of stock on something digital. Like just generate some new ships lmao pcucks
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>>339912728
Yeah I'm obviously wasting my time lying about some completely unimportant aspect.

I very clearly remember them saying they couldn't reuse the original demo because it was in UE, but whatever. If they did make the poc in CE, then they're even more retarded.
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>>339912738
But instead your paying anew rigs worth of USD. This is like horse armor but worse.

>I-Its just 1$ guys it c-cant bethat bad.

Setting a new high for game developer Jewry. Go ahead and play the game but just know you're opening a new hell for any middle class player.
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>>339909737
>who made the thread

Kong

>who is shilling in the thread

Ved

Both are filled with redditors
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>>339906308
Jokes on them I got the game for free. AMD ship from their sweepstake babyyy
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This is a Vederation guild officer
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>>339908748
I do believe horse armor and hats are a huge joke on /v/
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>>339912820

Unless someone deleted the original definition from existence and you're from an alternate reality, they're still relevant.
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>>339911345
I'm high af, and I feel like I've been reading that image for hours and don't remember anything now.
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>>339912917

There was a couple times that they offered a 20 dollar digital budget package to lure in new backers. Like a bunch of stupid fucks, CIG decided to put a stock limit on those too. Most of them were bought and hoarded out by long-time whales on the forums.

You'd think they just put a time limit on something like that instead of a stock limit. CIG is just plain stupid. It's no wonder their senior people have either left or are in the process of leaving the shitshow.
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>want to give SC shit
>Gave 250 to Chronicles of Elyria for Baron title
g-good luck on your game SC bros
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>>339912718
no.
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>>339914103

Before SC, I helped fun two kickstarters, one of which released a long time ago.

Strike Suit Zero
Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero

I should of seen the writing on the wall with Star Citizen. I mean, Chris Roberts has a history of mismanagement, autism, and scamming people out of their money, like Kevin Costner.
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>>339914103

If i donate money will they release more gameplay video?
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>>339912762
poorfags gonna poor
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This pile of shit still isn't released? Wasn't it supposed to achieve a public playable release state like literally 4 years ago?
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I'm really into SC, looking forward to it probably the most out of all upcoming titles.

>>339914504
But you.

Dude.
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>>339914423
they just released a shitty combat video, pre alpha, with dummy assets on a brand new engine, but still looks meh. Then they released this one, talking about spatialOS
want to be hype, but all of this in one game, seems like it's too good to be true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG6roE_9ERc

then they had the global interaction vid, but meh
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>>339914609
Kickstarter wasn't even finished 4 years ago.
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>>339912575
>that .png

I-I can explain
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>>339914706

Argg I cant handle watching people talk. Need gameplay, will search for dummy 1
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>>339914609

There is a public playable release of the game.
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>>339914808
World interaction alpha (very elder scrolls-ish)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKdf5lp2IQ

dummy combat alpha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov-qzi6FUms
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>B-but it's an A-ALPHAAAA!!!

scam shitizens will defend this
https://youtu.be/Go1oFvxUoeI
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>>339915252
Kek, some of those were great.

But yeah, it is an alpha. Has bugs. Nobody said it didn't.
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>>339915252

I wish they would let people play the game while it's in development so players could find bugs for them to fix.
Then we wouldn't have all these buggy alpha releases all the time!
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>>339915197

*wet fart*
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>>339911161
>ship customization only matters in duel PvP
>duel PvP never happens outside arranged shit like RvB
>literally the only thing that matters in PvP is how many ships your gang has
>due to this most PvP degenerates into station camping games and running away from fights until you've snowballed a bigger fleet and hope the enemy hasn't done the same in the mean time
>most of the galaxy is Chinese bot farm land inaccessible
>player alliance warfare is a bunch of massive, laggy clusterfucks that serve no point besides throwing shit at each other because alliances have nothing else to do
>devs sucking alliance cocks and actively nerfing any solo/small gang content like exploration
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>>339906308
Jesus Christ you could get any hat in tf2 for those prices
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>>339915650
I....what?
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Meh, I like to camp out in space stations on the alpha and gank people trying to test the missions
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>>339915197
My question is

Can I be a wizard
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>>339906795
Someone in the games press just has to do a whole expose on kickstarter/early-access games. And I mean hard truth digging, some actual reporting with actual work, not just internet research that anyone else can fucking do. This is the point of journalism, but I guess game journalists aren't actual journalists.
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>>339909487
>Every single game he ever made was late and under delivered.
Not every. Just digital anvil games (and star lancer wasn't even headed by him, but rather his brother, which he sometimes "blames" for star citizen mishaps.)

Freelancer was a shit show under him and the wing commander movie was a fucking disaster.
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>>339917701
They did this a while back, and they got BTFO.

Why? Because any other game is fucking silent about their game development, star citizen is the only game that actively has advertised the game since before it was even a real tangible idea.

Its main problem is feature creep, though I am glad to see the work they've put in, multicrew is pretty impressive, I just hope they actually build a game around it and we don't end up with with another Elite Dangerous.
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>>339917684
No and yes

Magic is to CoE what jedi's were to SWG, hard to come across, and you have to eugenics the fuck out of your family line for it to become decent after some generations

Even then, the magic itself doesn't transfer genetically, just the proneness and likelihood of your kid discovering magic
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>game releases
>gets cracked with private servers
>get to fly the million dollar ships idiots wasted money on for free
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>>339917934
This is exactly what I wanted.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Nothing special about magic in MMOs if every normie can do it.
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this game and its fanboys are fucking stupid and Chris Taylor is a hack fraud
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>>339912784
You justify it by price but neglect to understand that to the companies this is not the precedent you're setting. All they see are consumers all too willing to bend over and take their rock hard dick sans lube.
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>go to cig's discord
>no swastikas pls
>what about hammers and sickles
>go nuts

Figures that a bunch of crooked, liberal, western developers embrace symbols of communism. I mean, it's 2016, why are they anti-buddhist?
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>>339906520
its their money they work hard to get it and the fucking right to spend it in whateva they want . if u dont like it ? well u r just stupid or just jealous
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>>339919581

Smart, successful people don't blow thousands of dollars on jpeg spaceships. Rich folks get to where they're at by being great with money, by not spending it on stupid shit. The whales in this game are all trust fund babies.
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>>339919774
true, but not every millionaire or well off person only spends bulk purchases. some people buy 2k purses or 800 dollar cufflinks, some people like video games
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>>339920740

Yeah, but even purses or cufflinks have a practical purpose, even if they are expensive.
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>>339920995
That relies EXTREMELY on your personal criteria and circumstances.

Do you go to galas and formal events all the time? then sure, those are way better than a jpg of a ship, but if you bought them just the once for a wedding, but play SC sometime in the near future, then the JPG ship has more value and purpose than those
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>>339906308
"I'm making the mother of all omelettes here Jack!"
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is scam citizen the most pathetic moneygrab ever?
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>>339921236
>he never makes the omelette, just takes everyones eggs while describing how he'll make it

>>339921289
Mighty No 9
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>>339921147

Considering that CIG has promised that you can get all those jpeg ships without spending huge amounts of cash, then yeah, they're still fucking stupid.
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>fifteen thousand dollars
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>>339906308

damn

making millions from a fucking 3d spaceship viewer
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>>339906604
>>339908748
the difference is it was not Valve who set the price of a fucking counter strike knife skin at 10000 bucks. It's not their fault some retard is willing to pay that much of daddy's oil money.
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>>339906795
>32 bytes
That would be some seriously impressive compression
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>>339908748
SC set the prices themselves this high

Dota2/CSGO/TF2 all have a standard price, but demand from consumers lets the player go as high or low as they want
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>>339910196
games is a giant beta,they are releasing the same game every 4 year at the same price.
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The ship prices are basically kickstarter backer tiers on their own crowdfunding platform for continued development of the game. The big fish can donate a large amount and get a lot of space ships. All of which is content able to be earned in the game if it ever reaches a 1.0. They plan to take their crowdfunding infrastructure and actually develop it into a platform to be competitors to gofundme and kickstarter eventually.

Naturally you have whales that simply think they're playing Pokemon. But instead of throwing balls at monsters they're tossing money at Chris for ships. CIG has done nothing wrong but milk retards of their autism bux.
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>>339906308
>$15000

Has anyone actually bought this?
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>>339922457
>Just a regular guy
>Who dumped hundreds of thousands into an unreleased game for digital ships

I'd like to see him end on the streets and starve.
Just natural selection taking its course.
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>>339922704
This has already happened. Some bird faggot in the community was kicked out of his house. They had a fundraiser for him IIRC.

My personal favorite are people complaining about the prices of flight sticks and how not everyone can afford them so they shouldn't be unfair advantages, yet have $500-$1000 in pretend space ships going by their stats they list on their signatures.

>>339922494
Forum dads have spent upwards of at least $30k at this point.
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>not even showing up to E3 because they don't even have a game to show.
or maybe they'd rather work on the game instead of wasting time at hipster events.
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>>339922494
>>339922704
>>339923071

There's also some fat bitch from CrunchyRoll that has been dipping into her food budget to buy the latest jpegs. Although, in her case that might be a good thing.
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>>339923224
>e3
>hipster event
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>>339923224
E3 is literally the most mainstream event in gaming
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>>339909891
Why is it spinning?
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>>339907009
I suppose anon meant the space that the instance of that ship takes, and while realistically it would be much bigger (saves name, position, and whatever statuses ships have in this game), technically the smallest space a ship could take is 8 bytes: one pointer to the type of shit and one to the owner, in a 32-bit environment.
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>>339906308
>pretend to make a game
>put big packs which are worth a lot of money
>people buy them
>never release the game
>people will eventually forget about it and go on with their life

i would do it
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>>339923463
Artificial grav- oh wait they have that already

Artificialer gravity
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>there are people
>on the internet
>who have "ocd"
>to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on non existent ships
>causing them to ruin their real life

what a time to be alive
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>>339908748
>How is selling content for a unreleased game any different from selling content for a released game?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>339923463

It sorts the ore being processed in the ship.
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>>339906795
>wheres the press when you need them
This was talked about already two years ago.
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>coworker backed the KS for $1k
>has since spent $5k on ships that don't exist
>talks all day whenever they announce any progress on the game
>gets visibly upset when I tell him it's going to fail miserably
>gets even madder when I point out how it's missed practically every timeline they set and has shown barely any progress

How many suicides will there be when SC finally comes out?
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>>339924547
most of these people are in too deep to admit buyer's remorse, they'll sink 5000 hours into a garbage game that normal people wouldn't even play f2p, TORtanic style
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Remember when everyone on /v/ use this game to to brag about being the PC master race?

L-O-L
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>>339924859
Remember when the contrarians starting bashing it after it became successful because they want to see tortanic 2.0?
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>>339908906

I've got slightly better things to do with my time than dig around in strangers' twitter accounts for something to be offended at.
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>>339924547
It's a great game, it's Blizzards fault for releasing Interstellar Inhabitants the same week.
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>>339924356
Ah, thanks dude.
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>>339924547
>and has shown barely any progress

He's probably upset because you're wrong.

Just a guess.
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Calm your autism faggots. Over million people pledged support for this game so obviously there will be few of those on /v/ ITT defending this pile of thresh. Can't reason with people like that so just give up.
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So have they ever revealed what the business model is going to be when this thing releases? It's not going to just be selling ships through cash shop, right?
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People get so mad over this game out of pure envy.

They are mad they dont have the disposable income to throw away on fake space ships.

"STUPID FUCKING GAME REEEEEEEE!!!"

>Opens can of beans
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>>339911161

>resubbed for WWB
>WWB over was 4/10 at best
>Uninstall.exe

see you in 2years when something else happens again, space cowboy.
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>>339925394
Cosmetics and capped amounts of in-game currency
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>>339925469

>capped amounts of in-game currency

Gross.
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to be fair the alphas so far have been pretty good
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>>339924547
>fail miserably

alright now stop this fucking meme
watch the star citizen website and you'll see that everything go according to their plans, we've got the 2.4 which is a pretty excellent update, they are still as working as ever with many update on the road.
Fuck this meme, why star citizen get so much hate in this site? When the game's release, the ship will be completely free and buy-able with the in game money that you will WORK to obtain. Fuck off with this fucking meme. Star citizen will change the face of gaming. If rockstar need 100 millions to make GTA 5 (not counting the huge marketing behind it), then Cloud imperium can make star citizen.

Fuck . Off ! You know nothing about the game
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>>339925394
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>>339906308
>not even showing up to E3 because they don't even have a game to show

>>339906580
>THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE FOOTAGE IN-GAME YET?

>>339909270
>What's it like flying around a massive empty world with no content?

>>339909891
>>turn out a disjointed pile of shit

>>339911345
>To me this game is just a lot of tech demos that won't be able to be meshed together as smoothly as the people spending thousands on it think it will.

>>339921570
>making millions from a fucking 3d spaceship viewer

Looks like a game, with content, that's in development to me:

https://youtu.be/-u_P4LFjHBY?t=38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4i1o-LPj-M

The main problem that SC suffers from is the idiot peanut gallery masses who've no fucking clue how long it actually takes to make a AAA game, or that problems & delays always crop up along the way.

The ignorant masses simply can't get their heads around the idea that just because their favourite shitty franchise pops a game every two years, doesn't mean that that's how long it took to develop it.
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So the game will be like a heavily dumb down EVE stitched together with FPS and space flight segments?

LOL
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>>339925532
Got a better suggestion?

Its not like E:D where the entire game is just a grind-race to the objectively best ship, so currency won't help you all that much.
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>>339909725

So... Never?

SC will never be released. Roberts is a fucking maniac blowing thousands of dollars per day on hookers and blow because retards think this game will be worth the money they spent.

7 years of development so far and NOTHING worthwhile to show.
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>>339908748
>How is selling content for 1000 dollars different than selling 1 dollar cosmetics that can be bought with the in-game economy?
LITERALLY retarded
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>>339906308
>We wasted your money by just developing in a bunch of random directions:the game

it's like the money pit of gaming
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>>339925627
>7 years of development so far and NOTHING worthwhile to show.

I like how this claim becomes more and more outlandish each time its repeated
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>>339906308
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>>339925294

A part of the fun on /v/ is poking fun at those who defend piles of trash.
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>>339925613

I'm always partial to flat subscriptions, even though I know that's asking too much. I always thought EVE's plex were a good compromise between allowing people to go wild with their credit cards and having a fair economy. Purchasing currency implies the economy of the game will be largely NPC-transaction driven, which I don't see as healthy.
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>>339926006
>piles of trash

But aren't all games trash? I dont think a good game exists. Name 1.
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if you're rich as fuck and want to waste your money i see no problem, but you just know there are fucking idiots out there right now taking out loans and stealing from their mother so they can buy this crooked bullshit
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>>339926030
>largely NPC-transaction driven, which I don't see as healthy.

Why?

Can't you sell PLEX anyway? Basically the same thing as buying currency except there is a pretty restrictive cap on how much currency you can buy, even now
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>>339908748
Because they're not selling cosmetics you dumb fucking retard, it's literally pay to win with no game in sight
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>>339912273

Anyone have the forum post where some guy spent upwards of $30k on these virtual ships which eventually led to his wife divorcing him?
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>>339925424

What's funny is that the ones throwing their "disposable" income at the game are the ones eating cans of beans.

It was said earlier that some girl spent her food budget on SC. Also, some wannabe pirate autist on plebbit (Seraph84 irrc) used to brag about it, but now he's selling his account to help pay his rent.
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>tfw you didn't spend a cent and the game is going to fail
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>>339926147
>it's literally pay to win with no game in sight

The most expensive ships in the game right now are getting shit all over by cheaper ones, and its playable right now.

So I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>339925706

Can you show me what the 7 years of time and money has wrought? Cause I look at the gameplay footage and wonder how the fuck $115 million dollarydoos gets... That.

Looks like shit, plays like shit, is fucking vaporware and people will defend it because they are fucking insane.
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>>339925561

Dudebot, pls
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>>339906308
>company full of experienced game makers

>directed by Chris "I killed my own company with my own ambitions" Roberts who is also a failed film director
>soundtrack by Pedro "I work for beans" Cummuncho
>ship designs by Someone From Hollywood Who Cares
>first person shooter mechanics by Illfonic, creators of highly appraised title Sonic Boom
>engine by Cry-WILL-WORK-FOR-FOOD-Tek
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>>339923495
>Implying that the devs aren't complete jews and are using packed bitfields so that the indicator of you having a specific ship type is literally a single bit packed alongside others.
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>>339926229
>>339926190
Yes, stay mad,
7 year and the game (and cloud imperium) are still kicking and doing good. Thanks to care for us c:
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>>339926229
>>339926315

Fuckin' 7 years anon. So 2009.

When the kickstarter only opened October 2012 and CIG was a team of a dozen people.

Yeah, its totally been 7 years of development.
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>>339926315
>all this self delusion
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>>339926054

Legacy of Kain
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>>339906308
What game?

Also isn't E3 just a showcase for consoles?
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>>339925571
>who've no fucking clue how long it actually takes to make a AAA game
It says delivery date Nov 2014 on SC kickstarter page.
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>>339926452

Legacy of Shit
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>>339926295

Don't forget they blew money on that one guy who designed the HUD for Ironman, only to throw it all out anyway.
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Ok, at this point I'm convinced there's no actual shills here, it's just anons baiting each other.

Well played.
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>>339926295
>first person shooter mechanics by Illfonic, creators of highly appraised title Sonic Boom
Kek, is this a meme or are you serious?
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>>339926160
I just remember the guy 22.5k in that was demanding haters/buyer's remorse people let him buy them out so they'd stop criticising ciggy's perpetual fuckups
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>>339926720

so like every thread
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>>339926452
Burning question: Blood Omen or Soul Reaver?
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>>339926229
>7 years of time... Looks like shit, plays like shit, is fucking vaporware and people will defend it because they are fucking insane
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>>339925571
Pretty much this. A game to this magnitude takes serious dev time.
And thanks to crowdfunding it was announced day one,when if it was published traditionally would probably only have been announced last year, and no one would be saying any of this shit.

IIRC they added a third dev studio for COD cause it took more than 2 years to rehash the same shit over and over. (Yes kids, even COD games take more than a year to be developed, they just don't announce it right away) So if it takes 3 years to update CoD. Why the fuck is 5 years to build ground up with a new engine, a massive space sim with a full world, fps elements and much more with both full campaign and multiplayer So god damn surprising?
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Those who pay for this shit, are the ones to blame. Paying >1k for a jpg
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>>339906308
>digital content
>"in stock"

PCkeks are the cancer of modern gaming.
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>>339925561
hello anon's coworker
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>>339926479
>No game is ever delayed ever.
Anon you ever make anything in your life ever? Next time try guessing when you will be finished. See if it's even in the ballpark.
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>>339926873
Its "in stock" because some items were sold in limited quantities.

No need to get all dramatic.
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>>339926815

Blood Omen, the original game.
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>>339927019
Good taste, anon. Vae victis!
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>>339926479
And their ships were delivered relatively close to that time....
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>>339926837

Well, technically it's not vaporware, but it is shitware
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>>339906795
The "press" has already taken not so subtle jabs at Scam Citizen. Crawl out from under your rock before you make judgements on the outside world friendo.
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>>339927094
"vaporware" is something objective, "shitware" is just your garbage opinion.

7 year development time was just hilariously wrong, so.. yes. shitty bait.
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>>339912209
>taken over by
not
>founded by

costanzaface.jpg
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>>339926140

I'm too tired to discuss virtual economies at length, but you can only sell PLEX to players, which makes it distinct from simply buying currency.

I can abide a capped currency purchase though. It's just not my first choice.
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>>339926839
>And thanks to crowdfunding it was announced day one
Were you born after the announcement?

They had a partially working demo on day 1. Ships flew around and shot each other. Sq42 was originally scheduled for a late 2014 release as a co op supporting space dogfight. Its now 2 years late (and quite possibly more) and reduced to a cinematic shitsperince.

Chris has surrounded himself with horrificially obease fanboy worshippers and his judgement has been clouded.

They rushed out a still non-persistent "persistent universe alpha" which still barely works thanks to terrible netcode (which they've delayed features for months claiming they'll fix it for long term)

And as for your comparison to call of duty: a lot of effort goes into those titles with drastic engine changes, and even then they went from 0 to full game in under 3 years, while releasing to multiple platforms with full campaign, coop, and MP
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>>339927094
> I don't like or understand something, therefore it must be shit to everyone

No anon, it just makes you another asshole with a shitty opinion.
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I spent 45 bucks on it. So i'm not worried. I've had enough fun in the alpha to warrant it for me.
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I am 99% sure Scam Citizen is a money laundering scheme.

No one pn this planet would willingly spend 15 thousand dollars on a glorified jpg.
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>>339927291
>They rushed out a still non-persistent "persistent universe alpha"

Its persistent, actually. Updated that a while ago.
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>>339927081
Minus digital delivery of the finished game for PC.
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>>339927064

House of the Dollmaker was my favorite area
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>>339927214
>2.4 brings so much to the table
>literally basic bare bones mmo shit

Shitware.
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>>339927291
If you're a big enough dick sucking fanboy you'll even get to work at CIG in the "community department"
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>>339927207
That escapists article that had no followup?
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>>339927292

I see plebbit has joined us now
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>tfw you didn't fund Star citizen
>tfw you didn't fund Mighty No. 9
>tfw you have funded Grim dawn
>tfw you have funded Darkest dungeon
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>>339927336
Its the "you can do anything" MMO promise to a new audience with way more money than , and the willingness to keep making concepts to sell for ridicilous prices

Like the recent $150 "entry level mining ship concept" (unlike a reasonable game where a mining laser is a cheap item, SC makes it a prestigious privledge for a high price)

And it works. Its cult grade fanbase defends it vigorously
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>>339927462
Thanks for your hot opinion, but you already expressed it anon

>>339927481
Nah there were loads of articles that shit on it, and loads that praised it.

Clickbait is clickbait either way.>>339927481
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>>339927463
>"I'd far rather be happy than right any day"

Well, that explains the weight.
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>>339926479

Because the Kickstarter was aiming for a $3mil Freelancer, not a $115mil MMO.
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>>339927358
No its not. The first baby step of persistence (only allowed to buy clothes, guns, but nothing for ships) is in invite only testing with even worse server limited framerate and numerous other issues too bad for them to expose to anyone critical.
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>>339927291
No, they had pretty much nothing done and only like 12 employees day one, concept really, can hardly say they were already in development. Your only real complaint was in the ever true inaccuracy of a day one guesstimate of release by devs. Why isn't everyone giving this hate to persona 5 or FFXV? Those games were already in deep development when they grossly missed their ETA.

as for cod, you are completely wrong, they do not make a new engine every COD, and they reuse a large amount of resources im sure, I'm not saying they don't innovate or change anything, but it's a lot less work to make than SC.
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The day this shit crashes and burns will be one for history books.
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I think we can all agree that kickstarter had noble intentions, but really only got us the equivalent of the kid in middle school who swore if he got too, he'd make the most amazing game ever
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Typically, extraordinary gameplay is promised on the original investment and vague verbal constructions such as "Lifetime insurance on ships", "One time sale", or "Access to in-game VIP club" might be used. The promoter sells ship JPEGS to investors by taking advantage of a lack of pledger knowledge or competence, or using claims of a whole new genre, like First Person Universe, whose details are exxaggerated to keep a competitive edge.
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>>339927801
Anyone else Saving these threads for when it's out?
I regret not doing it with Occulus so making up for it now...
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>>339927709
>Why isn't everyone giving this hate to persona 5 or FFXV?

Even if those games are delayed, they're from companies that have a better track record than Chris Roberts or CIG
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>>339927709
>Why isn't everyone giving this hate to persona 5 or FFXV?
Many are.
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>>339927947
>I regret not doing it with Occulus
As if
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>>339927947
>kikebook vr
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>>339906379
how is that not the case? Do you just look at the videos with the community managers or something?
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>>339927963
>your game is only allowed to be delayed if you have tonnes of experience to better avoid hiccups and underestimating dev time.
Okay....
Though roberts does have a track record anyway...
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>>339927709
SC isn't a completely new engine either.

Its a development of CE like how cod games are a development of their id3.

They talk about CE limits all the time when stuff like multi-render(which appeared in call of duty titles) is requested, the terrible <<USE>> element they can't even reskin.

And while I would excuse delays of the MMO portion, I mainly backed (in october 2012) for the sq42 which is looking worse every delay from its 2014 estimate.
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>>339927689
> is in invite only testing with even worse server limited framerate and numerous other issues too bad for them to expose to anyone critical.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the point where SC reached beta or full release? I thought it was in alpha development where testing & bugs were allowed? (not to mention subpar networking infrastructure & code because its good enough to allow testing right now).

Holy fuck COD really has ruined an entire generation of gamers - do people really think that things just work right the first time that they're tested? Or that networking starts on day 1 with 100 people with no issues? God help them if they saw the first iterations of popular games when they were presented to closed alpha test groups.
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>>339928007
>>339927992
Well it's never gonna come out anyway, kickstarter scam,so I'm told by 4chan
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>>339928075
A track record of fucking up with freelancer, the game that ruined the space dogfiggt genre with its mouse aim/flight and numerous delays getting his ass sacked.

Freeapace/2 was also way better than the wing commander series.
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>>339928114
I think it just got the backseat as the mmo ran into problems
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>>339909487
>What a huge industrial accident, and a fucking waste

The arena commander module already paid off the game for me. The gameplay just feels so good. Much better than the usual shitty AAA-game gameplay mechanics made for retards.
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>>339928075
>>339928236

Don't forget about his Hollywood resume
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>>339928147
>being this much of a shill
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>>339928114

It's a fork of Cryengine, but it's a pretty different fork.

Isn't the USE thing getting removed at some point and getting replaced with something closer to the Arma 3 menu? I might just be making shit up.
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>>339909060
>he fell for the derekposting
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>>339928147
People are used to low quality from small time devs on early access that admit they're going to be rough.

CIG has set an expectation of quality when they delay a gameplay alpha for month claiming they are going to polish it, and then when it comes out its still very shitty.

And frankly, the netcode excuse got stale last year when it was justifying what has become the indefinite delay of the FPS module. They replaced it with the glorified freeflight mode that is the non persistent persisten universe alpha simply so people couldn't easily see how abysmal their shooting mechanics are.

See that fuel tanker boarding video of 2.4? People were shooting each other from 3ft away without the game registering hits.
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>>339928462
God, I think the worst thing about SC failing is you'd have to admit Derek is right about something.
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>>339906308
Wait, are they legit $10K? Do people actually pay 10K for a line of code that they only get to control with a keyboard? lmao
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>>339928438
>Isn't the USE thing getting removed at some point and getting replaced with something closer to the Arma 3 menu
They've said they will be doing that soon.

They've been saying so for years now.
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Apparently people need some VISUAL guidance.
That's Star Marine, which is cancelled but actually in game by 2.1 according to CRoberts, footage from last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuBvRp_BXow

This is fans trying to recreate a 5v5 team deathmatch in 2.4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTL4CBHTbvI

How come a game is worse than it was a year before? It must be some AAA level development trick that we don't know.
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>>339928669
they started over from scratch, believe it or not
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>>339928669
SM isn't cancelled, just so you know.

But the difference is probably due to scale; fighting in the mini-PU is on a massive fucking planetary system scale map with many more players. Probably whats fucking it over.
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>>339928885
>scale; fighting in the mini-PU is on a massive fucking planetary system scale map
Shouldn't matter with the 64bit integers and physics grids
>with many more players
Limit is 16-24, that's not many players at all for an "mmo"
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>>339928669
How retarded are the Star Citizen devs to not make a pilot game which employs the relationship between ship combat and infantry combat they expect to have?

Even if it had graphics as bad as Need For Madness and was just some WebGL thing running on a website, it would provide a huge amount of insight as to what direction development should go in.
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>>339921973
haha
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>>339906308
>literally preying on poor miserable retards to milk them out of their money

never seen a game project fall so low
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>>339924356
>advanced enough to fly through motherfucking space
>still spinning its shit
>thats the best weve got
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>>339930397
>poor
>$15,000 purchases

l m a o
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>15k for a game

what the hell?
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>hangar simulator
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We lost control a long time ago
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I only care about squadron 42, I was to chat to some virtual celebrities.
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>>339930471
people who are well off and know how to handle money don't spend 15k on a jpg, I assure you

its always the poor retard who wants to buy his dreams that falls for scams like this
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>>339930817
>people who are well off and know how to handle money don't spend 15k on a jpg, I assure you

There are several known people that are "well off" that have spent way more than 15k.
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>>339930457
gets even better once you realise the unbalanced counter rotation of mass would rip that ship apart and the need for such rotation is a moot point because all ship interiors have their own local physics grid and as such must be generating their own gravity which seriously brings into question why we even have thrusters and conventional engines at all if even the smallest ship like the aurora can generate an earthlike gravity inside it.
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>>339906308
this is just sad, selling dreams to desperate peekekks
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>>339930764
Chronicles of Elyria and MAYBE Yukka Laylee, the rest of KS, especially MN9 and that ice cooler thing can rot
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>>339930471
>can't into reading comprehension

a u t i s m
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>>339906308
derek smart pls go

how can anyone be so angry at people for "PLEDGING" their money to invest in the games development and in return get some ships in return once the game (ever) releases?

everything can be grinded in the game (once it releases) you can get all those ships anyway.

but how can you be mad at people spending their money, their money. i dont get it, you can call them stupid or whatever but in the end its their money and they could just jizz on it and eat the dollars , why is it my business?

and who even buys the 15k packs?

disclosure : i got a 30€ starter pack
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>>339912571
>>339912571
>Kek, it's still just pixels.

like every game in the history of video games
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>>339906308
And yet its still got more going for it and more going on under the hood than most of your AAA console exclusive trash
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>>339912440
it never was on UE
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>>339931439
..thanks for agreeing?
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>>339931407
You give pcfags a bad name. Dont tell me you funded this?
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>>339906795
>why is the media not freaking out that people are spending their money how they want instead of subsidizing my broke lazy ass

kill yourself bernfag
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>>339931261
>how can anyone be so angry at people for "PLEDGING" their money to invest in the games development and in return get some ships in return once the game (ever) releases?


The backers are nothing more than a spectacle, something to be mocked for entertainment.

The anger is directed at CIG for promising the world and underdelivering.

We've already heard the words "minimally viable" while they spend money on thousand dollar coffee machines and sliding doors.

Don't kid yourself, the "game" is going to be a flop.
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>>339907640
Arena commander is literally better and has more going on in it than bloodborne

All you sonycucks will be on suicide watch if it comes out with even half of its aspirations met
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>>339912820
ur so negative ;(( </3
Words change, conservative
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>>339931729
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>>339925561
>why star citizen get so much hate in this site?

because most people here are salty underage kids without jobs who couldnt dream of building a gaming PC, and kids today are so fucked in the head that instead of aspiring for best, they make excuses

>inb4 1-2 replies going "hurr i have a gayman PC so that means i represent everyone bashing this game"

thats not how it works
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>>339931910
Literally more than 2 years ago.
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I would love to see a PS4 SQ42 release, just to see the asspain on RSI.
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>>339932062
Unfortunately your sony brick isn't nearly powerful enough.
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>>339932003

It is amazing how far AC has come since then.
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>>339906308
oh my god. 15'000 dollars for a fucking ship
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somebody post the forum discussion about a guy living in a shitty house who spent all his money on a SC ship
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>>339932124

inb4 they create a downgraded version for ps4
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>>339906308
this is quite literally the ultimate scam

all these retards spending THOUSANDS of dollars for a game that will be dead on arrival, if it arrives at all
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>>339906795
it has received tons of hate from media outlets.
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>>339931950
i weigh 130 pounds and cant gain weight due to autoimmune diseases but thanks for the fallacy to try to dismiss my argument without any effort

>>339931512
And another insult/fallacy with no actual argument

Prove me wrong faggot
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>>339925561
>>339931985
well shilled, useful idiots
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>>339931985
>not how it works

But your fucktarded made-up anecdotes are totally valid.
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>>339932213

Oh you mean Pablo?

I don't have the pic, but that retard actually doxxed himself on RSI.

He was pissed that he sunk 2500 dollars on store credit, only to miss buying the doritio crusier they had as a limited sale.

He posted a screenshot of his checkout screen with his home address and someone posted a screenshot of his house from google maps.

It wasn't anything spectacular, just an average looking home with a shitty yard next to a wash.
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>>339932246
That's exactly what I was thinking. 15'000 dollars, holy fucking shit that's a lot of money on a game there's no guarantee will even be PLAYED by people on launch.
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>>339932246
Its already better than many games you consolefag retards buy for $60

>>339932214
I promise you, not even ps4k could run this, even at this early of a stage, and even with loads of optimization
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>>339932350
>/v/ isnt mostly young consolefags

How new are you?

Polls arent that uncommon around here

FFS like half of you are literal virgins
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>>339932257

What autoimmune disease burns through extra calories?

Not trying to make fun of you, I'm just curious.
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>>339932448
>you consolefag retards
damage control harder, faggot
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>>339932445

Fuck off Confusion
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>>339932428
You can get the biggest ships in the game now for around $200, and at least one of them fires missles which lock on from like 30 fucking miles away and chases them for like 5 minutes, and are almost larger than other entire ships, and seem to be able to one hit everything

Its fucking glorious
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>>339930936

It's designed to look cool not be scientifically accurate.

If it were designed for that every ship would just be a sphere with no windows and some anennas or shit on the sides. Because that would be the most structurally resilient.
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>>339932448
>Its already better than many games you consolefag retards buy for $60

People get more out of console games for 60 bucks than they do from Star Citizen
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>>339908748
A. The ships directly impact the game play thus turning the game into a literal pay to win fest.
B. the game isn't even released yet and a large portion of the ships aren't even playable in the beta
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>>339926952
Are you fucking kidding me LOL
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>>339932448
>I promise you, not even ps4k could run this, even at this early of a stage, and even with loads of optimization
I wonder what playstation/xbox we'll be up to by the time SC releases.
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>>339932448
You do realize that 90% of PC gaymers are toaste-fags, right? Scam Citizen confirmed for tortanic 2.0
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>>339932542
>polls
>laughingwhores.exe

You really are fucking stupid.
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>>339932815
LOL YEAH I AM

>>>/reddit/
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>>339932558
you dont have to burn calories to lose weight, you can just simply have shitloads of inflammation

and what i have is celiac and rheumatoid arthritis
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>>339932738
So fucking do that, you're basically TACTICOOL tier at this point >>339909891
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>>339908748
It's still cancer but Bliz and valve never charge this much, and they're trusted developers. We know they an deliver at least decently and you know what you get. Star isn't RELEASED yet.
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>>339932762
Because people are dumb and dont care about the a realistic space dogfighting simulation and all its amazing nuances

>>339932851
Yes, everyone who downloads steam is the definition of the PC gaming community, even all you consolefags who downloaded it to play dota on your laptops

Please kill yourself
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>>339906308
>one shitty game that literally everyone has been calling out since it started
>PC BTFO LELELELEL
Mods need to start doing their job.
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>>339932879

Well hey if you think you can do better then make your own ship and it could get into the game.
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>>339932991
>Because people are dumb and dont care about the a realistic space dogfighting simulation and all its amazing nuances

Dudebot, what did I tell you?
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>>339932632
>one person

>windows 10

>970

>not even 2tb of memory

wow sure proved me wrong

when did you convert, last week?
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>>339933054
Not enough autism
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>>339932719
literally fuck everyone's thousands of dollarydoos worth of ship by onehitting them, christ
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>>339933069
>Dudebot

what, is this some shitposters name?
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>>339933107
So basically you're just spouting buzzwords like a retard. K.
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>>339933094
>referring to disk space as "memory"
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>>339933253
A lot of ships can travel faster than the missles in the faster, less maneuverable flight mode, and just out run them. Especially the more expensive ones. But it takes a little time.

And like i said they're all about $200 or less at the moment
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>>339933261

How's Greg, is he eating all his vegetables?
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>>339934014
every time

what the fuck

who
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>>339934174

You guys should of scrubbed Kaelus from the group if you wanted everyone to go to Discord.
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>>339934253
ive never used discord
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>>339909891
Let's be fair, 115 million and we'd want it take long enough for it to be a quality product, surely.
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>>339934696

Is Kippeth still putting on stream shows of his trap nonsense for the rest of Kong? That guy is such a degenerate.

Did Thirdstar ever stop shitting in the streets?
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>>339906308
>5 years
But the first studio only opened in February of 2013

Why would you lie, Derek?
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Ready in 2030. Unless we run out of money. We have coffee machines to sell. Yeah. The problem is, we're actually working but have no idea what we're doing. So, it may take 5 or 50 years to complete. Thanks for backing us up.
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>mfw sold my pledges to retards on plebbit
>got all my money out + made some
Thanks god for retards.
>>339932003
Lets post something more fresh, then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq8ynUq7wM
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>>339932878
> tfw you have a treatment worth $40.000 a year but you don't have to pay a single cent for it
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>>339906795
just imagine if the dumbasses that pay for this crap would instead put their money into scholarship funds.

Imagine all the people bro
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>>339936148
Even thats pretty out of date now to be honest.
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>>339936301
Gilded this fine gentleman ;)
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>>339936396
Not as out of date as the pre-AC launch one, but the game isn't nearly as crash happy as it was back then, when the mini-pu was first deployed.

Not defending Chris in that video though. Fucking awful presentation.
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>>339919581
You can't justify these shifty business practices. Not even with "muh feels".
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>>339906308
>in stock

how can you run out of .jpgs and lines of code
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>>339936214

or donate to cancer research or some shit

they're already accustomed to getting next to nothing in return, at least this way it will benefit a worthy cause.
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>>339936582
>shifty business practices

cool buzzword, bro!

>>339936676
>>339926952
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>>339936676

Their excuse is that they wanted a limited number of certain ships in the mmo when it was finished, so they can evaluate and balance from the get-go.

Of course, it's bullshit since they can just wait until players grind up for it anyway, which doesn't take long for most poop sockers. They're just fleecing stupid old men, furfags, and trannies.
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>>339909009
>what are you telling me you can't afford a bag of shit?
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>>339923463
its a good trick
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>15K DLCs

What the fuck? how the hell did this pass?
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Remember to buy that insurance, goy
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>>339906520
there are always retards who think spending money for a 3d model is a good idea
they spend $200 on knife skins in csgo, now they'll spend college tuitions on ships
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Man, and i feel bad about spending 40 buck on this bullshit. Can't imagine how these people who spent thousands feel.
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>>339906308
>paying up to 15.000 bux for a video game

what the fuck is wrong with these people
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Literally the Scientology of gaming
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>>339942802
Who's the Tom Cruise of this title then?
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>>339906308

Are you retarded? you know a spot at E3 is like a few million dollars literally thrown away. i think EA paid 5 mill at one point

they are way better off paying way less at a smaller con
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>>339907640
most people here are fine with sub 30 fps so for them it's perfectly playable
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>>339925561
dude dont bother theses fuckers arnt intaresed in the truth they just want to dream this game will fail because they backed the wrong horse and are to pridefull to admit they where wrong
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>>339915252
>Complaining about the only time it is ever okay for a game to have bugs
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remember when they threatened to sue the escapist and nothing happened?
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>>339907183
This, exactly
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bane?
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>>339926229
>Money is instantly translated into a finished product
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