Hitting the uninstall wizard twice with my mouse
i like the one where you have to go to the draugr tomb
they're not all the same?
Sam Guevene and the staff
>>339889338
The one with the cave
>>339889456
ugh which one?
None, but at least Skyrim was better than Fallout 4. Fallout 4 was LLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I like the one where you go to a cave, tomb, or dwarf ruin that's shaped like a big circle with a few side rooms, and at the end of the dungeon you drop back down onto the entrance area
>>339889512
THIS
I can't remember a single one
Why did you fight the exact same enemies in every single cave the entire game? I actually would have preferred Oblivion's level scaling over that crap.
>>339889712
>chest at the end
>iron longsword
>garnet
>11 gold
>spark tome
>>339889945
wow anon is your brain that bad
>>339890196
Why was every single chest so SHIT
Never was there a real surprise or a treat in any chest ever.
>>339889512
>get told constantly about the crazy shit you did
>never get to experience it personally
Well, at least it was mildly entertaining.
>>339890196
>open ancient tomb that hasn't been opened for thousands of years
>lit candles everywhere
>check chest
>modern empire currency and fresh loaf of bread
the one where you have to investigate some murder
>>339890196
>>339890469
is there a mod that fixes random loot properly?
i don't have the patience to make my own
>>339890683
blood on the ice
>>339889338
Nightingale shit was good
>>339889338
Frostflow lighthouse was the only thing in Skyrim that legitimately creeped me out and got me interested.
When I first stumbled on it after wandering the tundra, it was some unnerving shit.
>>339890425
Chests adapt to your behaviour.
If you pick lots of spell tomes, then the game will generate spell tomes in your random loot. If you pick lots of enchanted gear, it will generate enchanted gear. And so on. Taking everything or nothing is a bad idea. I would prefer it if chests generated a single high level artifact though. The best thing is to train the game to generate ingots, ores and precious stones.
>>339890683
>get told the amulet belongs to the court wizard
>the wizard is immediately jailed
Quality Bethesda storytelling or Windhelm is being led by retards.
>>339891107
>you find habd's remains inside that big Chaurus
>>339890706
>is there a mod for x
Only people who play Bethesda Games need say this
The quest where Hermaeus Mora steals your kill.
>>339892418
Only people who play Bethesda Games CAN say this
The daedric quest to get the mace of molag bal
>I spent all the day playing skyrim
so?
>>339891578
>any quest
>get some stupid quest item that has weight
>quest is bugged or game otherwise fucks up because LOLbethesda
>try to drop quest item
>"YOU CAN'T DROP THAT, IT'S A QUEST ITEM!!!!!"
Gaming really has gone down the toilet.
>>339890683
I hate that one because it starts automatically and the nice tavern wench was one of my favorite NPCs
The one where you exterminate the edgelord guild
The best part about skyrim is the detailed hairy man bodies coupled with a cock mod
>>339892418
they don't even need to ask, because the answer is always "Yes"
>>339892924
>edgelord guild
Jesus dude, get the fuck out of the house sometimes, lmao.
During the Dark Brotherhood quest to assassinate Vittoria Vici, I cast a fury spell on her and forced her fiance to kill her. This entertained me.
During the Forsworn Conspiracy quest I refused to go to jail and instead dropped the master Illusion spell that forced all the guards to kill each other as well as everyone else in Markarth. Then I stepped outside and surrendered to the only remaining guards. Once inside I played both sides of the conflict, joining the forsworn just long enough to get their reward and escape, then killed all of them. I got the second reward from the Silverblood guy since I killed the Forsworn, and was pardoned of killing all of Markarth. Then I killed him, but since the city was empty there were no witnesses.
At the climax of the Thieves Guild questline, I learned you can kill Mercer instantly by shouting him off the big statue. Otherwise the quest is boring.
In general I had some fun seeing just how unprepared the game was for an Illusion/Conjuration mage, even though the things you could do were extremely limited.Skyrim was my first TES game, but now I'm interested in seeing what the others have to offer.
>>339893037
So, is there a mod that actually makes Skyrim good?
>>339890469
Draugrs light the candles, clean the tomb, and take in offerings of food and valuables left at the entrance by families honoring their dead
>>339893817
Awk, does babby not like thing? ;_;
>>339893610
Not my fault I'm too mature and intellectual for some "lol kill everything for fun" cult. That's poor writing.
It's like those kids who worship the joker. It's childish. The type of asshole who plays reaper all the time.
>>339893817
Skyrim is an average game
It's not great but not absolutely shit either
Like a 5/10, maybe 6/10 with the DLC
I don't judge games based on mods, I judge them based on what was sold to me
>>339893684
10/10
My dude you gotta play oblivion.
>>339894239
But he likes having fun.
i like the main quest where you infiltrate the thalmor embassy
and the one where you break into the bee guys house for the thieves guild
uhh
the markarth city quest where you went to jail
the one where you got drunk with a daedra
those are the only ones I remember
man, everything to do with dragons and the dragonborn really fucked this game over with a poleaxe
>>339894484
Oblivion is fun, meme off
It's guild quests are much better than Skyrims. Lots more variety in the cities and environment too.
Then of course morrowind was better than oblivion, Bethesda's games generally get a bit worse each time.
>>339889338
probably the Daedra weapon quests can't choose a single one though they were all fun
>>339893684
master edgelord
>>339894674
how tes 6 will be better
>>339894931
All quests in skyrim involve killing people, he just did it in slightly more creative ways
That's not edgy
>>339893817
There are mods that make it better
Sadly a foundation of salt will never allow a tower to be built atop it
>>339895079
hope*
>>339895079
No it won't, not if it's gonna be even more casualized like Fallout 4
>>339891015
>thieves who are butthurt, because someone stole from them questline
No. Fuck that.
Going through Yngol BarrowBest part about it is that it isn't a quest
>>339889338
The one with the straight corridor dungeon.
god damn skyrim is a comfy game though, exploring the icy north areas like the lighthouse/mages guild had a fantastic atmosphere
were there any decent survival mods?
Also, the best quests, and possibly only good ones in skyrim were the dlc ones involving the vampires and Hermaeus Mora and his Black Books, and the one where you fought aldruin, because they were memorable as fuck and didn't involved the shitty cities
>>339895141
Did you mean town?
>>339895195
yeah :(
>>339892924
>can destroy the Dark Brotherhood
>can't destroy the Thieves Guild
Apparently Bethesda is biased when it comes to stopping criminal scum in this day and age.
The Vampire quest. Since its the only quest with an NPC who has character development and a good voice.
>>339895463
HAHAHAHAHAHA THAT'S ALL OF THEM AM I RIGHT GUYS???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH
>>339895505
Can't wait for only 4 speech options, and a voiced protagonist who will have the same voice no matter which race you choose!
Oh yeah, and no more weapon holstering of course, your greatsword will just dissapear into the air like the guns in FO4
>>339895541
what are you talking about when astra kidnaps you and asks you to kill the people you can kill her and you get a questline to kill all the members
>>339894151
Pretty much. Would've preferred a guild of professionals.
>>339889456
>>339889481
>>339889537
>>339889578
>>339889712
>>339889945
>>339890141
>>339890196
>>339890425
>>339890469
I bet you morons are forgetting that Morrowind and Oblivion were no different
>>339895478
Frostfall and a few others, I recommend doing a new character for it though
>>339893684
>forced all the guards to kill each other as well as everyone else in Markarth. Then I stepped outside
Does that even work? Could have sworn that the door will be locked and the guards spawn infinitely.
>>339889338
>horrifically bad combat
>mediocre writing and bad story
>basic political strife
Amazing how brand power and the modding community saved this atrocious piece of shit.
>>339895886
This.
>>339895886
the Morrowind is the best tes meme
>>339895684
>voiced protagonist who will have the same voice no matter which race you choose
They wouldn't be that shameless, would they?
>>339889338
Aetherium Forge quest.
Unfathomable Depths
That a cool little quest from the vanilla game.
Hermaus mora > vampires > everything else
>>339889338
None of them. Not a single one was memorable.
>>339893684
If you like spellcasting you'd have a field day with Morrowind and Oblivion, spellmaking/alchemy have some amazing possibilities there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRTUReLBWHA
>>339895886
ugh why did you quote me
sanguines debauchery was pretty nice overall
>>339889338
I liked that quests to kill a bandit leader. I'm so happy they are infinite.
>>339895886
you are missing the dark brotherhood part in oblivion
>>339889338
Generally speaking, most of Skyrim's quests were very forgettable. Probably the only ones I can remember off the top of my head was the Markarth Conspiracy, the Werewolf one in Falkreath, the one where you travel back in time in someone's dream, and the guild quests I guess.
Even the Deadric quests were generally pretty boring and forgettable. Companions and College quests were yawn inducing, I can't even remember what the Companions was about.Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, like usual, are the best parts of a TES game, even if they were stupidly short.
Oblivion easily destroys Skyrim in terms of quests... I haven't played through Oblivion in years but I still vividly remember some of those awesome quests, like the White Stallions, the tragic Grey Prince quest, the one where you go into a painting, the Scamps who follow you around, the stolen painting in Chorrol, those two twins who were were separated at birth and were complete opposites... Goddamn, so many wonderful quests that weren't even Guild related. And the Guild quests were even better, they somehow were even able to make the Fighters Guild interesting with a great twist at the end.
Anyone know what happened between Oblivion and Skyrim? Why did the quality of writing and quest design drop so significantly?
>>339896039
Of course they would, and they're gonna cut out beast races so they can get away with it.
I liked both sides of the Dawnguard quest lines, the vampire side a little more because you get the castle as reward.
I even shot Dawnguard members with the crossbow. Talk about backfiring huh? I admit I used console commands to get more bolts, I dropped arrows I found as compensation. 5 arrows for 1 bolt.
>>339893610
Did you even play the game? They're the very definition
>>339889338
that was my favorite part of skyrim as well OP, that game actually had some damn good content hidden away in its corners
>>339894931
You're probably right. Using Calm spells to make people nonhostile was much less entertaining since all they do is spout generic dialogue. Sometimes you get actual dialogue options from characters that are initially not trying to kill you, but it's mostly a repeat of what makes them want to kill you in the first place. I guess it sets them up for sneak attacks but I don't usually roll sneaky characters.
>>339895914
It worked for me, at least. I looked around for anyone I missed and besides essential characters there was no one left for a while. I had to go outside because the guards did stop spawning in my game.
>>339896319
Looks hilarious, thanks.
>>339896557
Radiant Trash took over, that's what happened.
>>339896319
Didn't spellmaking turn the games into jokes?
Though I suppose anything's better than non-scaling spells
Oblivion had bound armours as well as weapons, right?
The Forsworn Conspiracy is the best side quest in the entire TES series.
>he didn't like the dark brotherhood questline
>he didn't like thieves guild
>he doesnt have the weed mod so he can slit throats while smoking, becoming a real hashashin
Didn't really like dawnguard, though.
>>339896472
I remember getting rekt by a leader with an elven greataxe.
>>339889338
-pretty much all the daedric quests
-a night to remember
-Dawnguard and dragonborn quests were pretty memorable
-going to sovngarde was cool
The only other memorable quests were mods.
I wish skyblivion and skywind were finished
>>339889338
Favorite quest? The fucking laser sword that shots a beam, shit is weak but its cool how the weapons fires the beam both vertical and horizontal
>>339894187
>Skyrim is an average game
I compulsively buy games on Steam and I'd like to be in the world where you live
You know, I liked dead thralls as additional packmules
But goddamn I miss summoning atronachs
>>339896874
yep, spellmaking was great when you were in a creative mood and came up with something just to fuck with an entire town for shits and giggles.
>>339896804
>that game actually had some damn good content hidden away in its corners
fucking this
this may be the reason I still play it
>>339897148
Bloodskal blade?
>>339896986
>he didn't like thieves guild
But the thieves guild is honestly really shitty.
>>339897317
Yeah that fucking shit
>>339895716
I don't recall being kidnapped by someone called Astra during the Thieves' Guild questline. What are you talking about, anon?
Every single quest was indistinguishable from the next, so they were all my favorite. There was literally zero variation. The game was dumbed down beyond recognition and marked the start of the casual infestation.
>>339896986
>Dark Brotherhood had some of the worst voice acting and characters in the game
>Thieves guild had the most plotholes of any questline in the game
>Dude Weed Lmao
>>339896986
>liking the thieves guild
>he sold his soul to a daedric bitch just to kill some random normal dude
>>339889456
That is practically every quest. Not to mention all the tombs were pretty linear. Other than the ones that were quest specific, there was nothing interesting to see in the tombs that were around just to explore. Once you saw one you saw them all.
>>339896986
>he didn't like thieves guild
You don't even steal shit. Nothing about that questline made any sense.
The Daedric Quests are the only worthwhile part of Skyrim. It's immersive as fuck, sure (hell when I played It I hallucinated the menus at work), but when you really get down to it that's all that's there.
Skyrim is a game with great atmosphere and shit everything else.
>>339897148
More dungeons should've had unique relics like that.
>>339897559
>speaking ill of nocturnal
>not wanting the best light armor set in the game
>>339897701
>literally selling your soul to a devil
>"b-but they're a less-bad devil than all the other devils"
Do you roleplay a degenerate or does it just come naturally to you?
>>339896986
>This fucking faggot thinks the Thieves Guild had any fucking worth at all
Get the fuck off my Mongolian woodcarving board Emil you fucking hack
>>339897619
Even the daedric parts were shit. The only thing I agree with you on is the atmosphere, downloading a few survival mods and RPing a hunter just trying to survive is pretty fun. Gets boring after a while, but then you can go back to quests. It isn't bad if you treat the actual game like a minigame.
>>339897701
>light armor in skyrim
Go heavy or go back to Summerset, mer scum
>>339896986
>competent fucking leader who survives the questline
>you are not treated like the second coming of christ
>you don't end up in charge of everything after three quests
Dawnguard is best faction.
>>339897353
oh fuck off
>>339897559
All I want is the option to tell the Daedric Princes to fuck off.
Dammit Beothiah I'm not going to kill an ally get your stupid quest out of my journal.
>>339897785
>nocturnal
>a devil
>all daedric princes are bad
Did you actually play the game?
>>339897850
Imperial, cunt.
>>339897701
dumb frogposter
>>339897858
dawnguard is alright if you play on the dawnguard
vampire side is piggu disgusting
desu I dont know why I expected otherwise
>>339897959
>>339897929
Just go take 500 gold and hire one of those fuckboys hanging out at the inn.
>>339889338
Be honest /v/. You play Skyrim only for the lewds and mods.
>>339891015
>>339895380
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422
>>339897612
Definitely the worst part is that you're approached as a thief even if you've stolen 0 items.
>>339898112
>I never played modded skyrim
>I never saw a skyrim lewd irl
>I have played this at least 10 times
>>339890469
>>339893863
i always took it as the currency is old you just find enough of it to trade in for that much of the current
>>339898194
>I'm lying
>>339897820
A good ENB + Frosfall and Hunterborn turns this fantasy land exploration simulator into a great hunting simulator, setting off from Whiterun at dawn to hunt some game in the forest down south in Falkreath while enjoying the scenery and the sound of the river nearby, only to return back home just before the sun is about to set is pretty comfy.
>>339898276
why would I?
>>339898276
Or he playedon consoles/toaster.
>>339898330
Probably a consolefag, yeah.
>no clean up Riften together with Mjoll questline
>no hunting down the dark brotherhood together with the Penitus Occulatus questline
>no fucking up Daedra together with the Vigilants questline
This game could have been so much more.
>>339897785
>>literally selling your soul to a devil
I think by the end of it all, the Dragonborn's soul is promised to every Daedric prince, so even if he dies despite being an immortal vampire, I'm not sure any of his deals can be cashed in without a war in Oblivion
>>339898163
For the game in general they just wanted to tell a story but never bothered to stretch it out within other quests. Oblivion did it much better.
>>339898071
For all of Oblivion's flaws, I still Ioved the quest variety. Shivering Isles alone put Skyrim's fetch quests to shame.
>>339898112
At this point yes, there's not much else that interests me.
>>339898380
>can't do a goddamn thing about Maven and the rest of the fuckheads in Riften
>civil war negotiations make fucking Maven the leader of Riften
Fuck this shit.
>>339898380
>Vigilants
Did they even have a purpose other than dying in Dawnguard
>>339898517
Is CBBE the best body slider?
>>339898221
Nah the draugr thing is true, it's explained in some dungeon
However, this doesn't explain why dwarven ruins have fresh food and modern currency. The robots certainly dont just do the same thing as draugrs
>>339897929
There needs to be more options to sell out Daedric Princes
>>339897931
Even if some of them are a little nicer than the others to mortals they still have little love for mortals on a whole and wish the downfall of the Aedra/Divines and the reclaimation of Mundus. Any power boost to one means a long term gain to the others and a net loss to mortal life on a whole; if Nocturnal and Azula get freedom on Mundus so do Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon. Nothing but bad can ever come from Daedra worship long term.
>>339898408
It's like Jim Sterling's plan on youtube: use so much copyrighted material under so many different companies, nobody can lay a claim without a legal battle, so his videos go unmolested.
>>339897129
>a night to remember
Seconded. A lot of quests boiled down to draugr hunting, but I got a pretty good laugh stumbling into the Hangover quest.
>>339889338
>Bethesda hypes infinite content.
>Doesn't tip me off.
>Surprised when there's no content at all.
>MFW all of the quests suck.
>>339895886
Oblivion's dark brotherhood questline was better than Skyrim.
>>339898531
Doesn't even have an affect on anything either. Nothing fucking matters in Skyrim.
>>339898579
It's a mater of taste, I prefer UNP
>>339897785
So why exactly did you have do become Nocturnal's bitchboy again?
They kept saying shit about how the bad guy of the Thieves Guild is unstoppable or invincible or some other shit and that you have to sell out to Nocturnal in order to beat him.
If I can kill the fucking apocalypse in the form of a dragon I'm pretty sure I can handle some stupid fuck in light armor.
>>339898579
UUNP is better.
>>339898408
Or your soul gets put in a soul gem and smashed into pieces to be split between them (including a little shard to go to sovngard)
And whether that destroys the soul or fulfills the debts is a moot point.
>>339897148
Damn I tried to mod that fucking enchantment/beam into another weapons but I sucked on that shit, also shit was nice, was literally +30 extra damage when slapping a faggot with a charged attack
Also
FUCKING WATER WALKING BOOTS
>>339898759
>>339898734
Is there a comparison? I thought CBBE was the most popular?
>>339898704
you are so smart and cool
>>339898704
Aren't you forgetting the oh so amazing and never ending kill "x" in someone's house side quests after finishing the Companions questline or the kill bandit leader/dragon/giant side quests?
>>339898741
I think it's the same reason you can't lockpick locks that require keys
Fuck you, that's why
>>339898531
>Maven
With all the build-up of how unambiguously evil they were, I remember searching everywhere for some quest to deal with the Black-Briars before just breaking into their home and repeatedly killing their unkillable leader.
It didn't help matters.
>>339898380
>option to destroy the Dark Brotherhood
>no option to kill Maven and her little inbred family, then join up forces with Mjoll and invade the sewers screaming for justice, killing every single thief scum inside
Why the fuck did Bethesda force me to team up with Kaz and make some poor argonian's life miserable? Tried killing him and make the city a better place but nope, he's invincible.
>>339898816
Just download bodyslide and fiddle with it until you get the shape you desire.
>>339898408
They would tear themselves apart for nothing, the dragonborn soul is Akatosh clay.
>>339898816
With Bodyslide 2 there's literally no competition anymore since you can convert all outfits from one body type to other almost with no effort.
Harmony has been achieved and the lewd mod scene has prospered greatly thanks to that.
>>339899041
Its not just about curves its about softness.
>>339897612
>guild about thieving
>first real job they give you is to go bully people for gold as opposed to stealing it from them
10/10
>>339890425
>No real surpriseA NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
>>339899158
Harmony to basically spend hours or days modding the shit out of Skyrim and not get past the opening act as you sit there fapping to your overly sexualized hyper endowed female avatar?
>>339895886
i bet you actually think there's a good bethesda game
>>339899030
>guy comes up to me saying I've never done an honest day's work
>payed for my armor and weapon with my mercenary work and some farming
fuck this snownigger forcing his lifestyle onto others, not everyone is some weakling who needs to steal for a living because baby can't deal with a few draugrs.
>>339892709
>getting to go in a spoopy house
>a daedric prince let's you torture the prick who explored it with you
>you get a great weapon that people are actually afraid of
Probably the best single side quest in the game
>>339898882
Thanks?
Not quite sure what you're so insecure about.
>>339899429
yeah or like in my case, spend hours modding only to never actually play the game, uninstall it, and do it all over again a few weeks later.
>>339899506
lol no
>>339899030
>confronting Maven
>she threatens you with Dark Brotherhood
>tell her that you already took care of them
>she threatens you with Thieves Guild
>tell her that you already took care of them
>she threatens you with the fucking city guards
>tell her that they are busy leading the rest of her family to the chopping block
>she offers a bribe in return for safe passage out of the city
>tell her that her stuff has been seized by the new jarl and she owns nothing anymore
>she starts attacking you with an iron dagger while screaming bloody murder
>put her out of her misery right there or optionally capture her and have Riften judge her
A man can dream.
>>339896557
>Why did the quality of writing and quest design drop
Pagliarulo wrote the DB in oblivion. It got a lot of praise for being edgy with a twist and he was promoted to lead writer for Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4
>>339899270
It was more like the small time organized crime guild than anything.
>>339899537
>never steal
>Brynjolf implies you're a thief
>steal from shopkeepers and not get caught
>get hired goons sent after you
I don't think they even tried.
>>339899537
>competely forgot how massive vanilla weapons are
>completely forgot how ugly vanilla NPCs are
Mods be praised.
>>339899713
For what purpose does one undertake such a act of mundane tedium?
>>339899920
>steal that alchemy book from Anise
>she didn't see me taking it, but somehow knows when I come out of her shack
>kill her right then and there
>get a visit from thugs sometime later
>Anise sent them
>>339898741
Supposedly Mercer has Nocturnal's blessing despite spitting in her face repeatedly and defiling her shrine, so you need the blessing too in order to be on his level. Except you don't even get the Nightingale power until after you kill Mercer? Also something about the Skeleton Key being powerful or something.
Nothing about it makes sense, you need to sell your soul to Nocturnal because yes.
>>339899292
>see the beacon
>dont take it
>go across skyrim for another quest
>beacons in the chest at the end
fucking fine
>>339900291
That was an interesting mechanic that went full retard all the time. I stole something and hitmen came after me under the order of that hagraven you marry in Sanguine's quest. I've had fucking PAARTHURNAX send hitmen after me.
>>339900291
At least it wasn't a goddamn chicken, then again, if chickens and horses can report crimes why not send thugs?
>>339900339
I think it might have been some bullshit about the Skeleton Key being able to unlock conceptual things, not just physical locks so Mercer "unlocked" a bunch of power or some shit so you have to serve Nocturnal because the writers said so.
And when you get the Skeleton Key (why the fuck would you ever return it to Nocturnal?) its just an unbreakable lockpick instead of whatever the fuck Mercer did with it.
Its been a long fucking while and the writing was garbage in the first place.
>>339892709
Man even the fucking Daedric quests were so mediocre. I remember for Molag Bal in Oblivion you had to actually corrupt this very kind person who wouldn't even attack you back even if you tried to kill or insult him.
So to make him 'kill' YOU, first you had to find about his wife's grave and desecrate in front of his eyes when he went there. After that you drop the mace molag bal gave you in front of him. The man is enraged so he finally picks up the mace and you have to let him kill you.
>>339900339
He doesn't have her blessing. He is cheesing it with the Skeleton Key.
Nocturne doesn't give you blessings, because she expects you to clean up the mess the group you represent has caused before she is willing to deal with you again.
You literally sell your soul for powers. Contracts and shit yo.
>>339900542
The funniest ones are when you get a letter from a courier only to find out some NPC you've never met has recently passed away and you get his money
>>339900958
I was always confused as fuck as to what triggered the courier about the Dwemer item and museum. I had been looting Dwemer items left and right and he never showed up, and it turns out you have to buy one from a merchant for that event to start.
Now I always make sure to buy a Dwemer arrow from Warmaidens just to get that out the way.
>>339891107
The best thing about it is that you're likely to happen upon it at night in a blizzard.
I actually aimed for it thinking I'd be finding some kind of town or shelter or something.
>Daedric Prince tells you to do some morally questionable or outright evil bullshit
>Your only options are to comply or ignore the festering evil under a major city
>No quests to clean up the world
Try to roleplay a Paladin in Skyrim is suffering.
>>339889338
>Bethesda in charge of creating engaging side quests aren't "go here and fetch item"
>>339889338
This quest was sad.
Skyrim doesn't have too many memorable quests, but it has a few nice touches lying around. Like when you ask one of the mages about the previous generation of students and he tells you they all went missing. And you can actually find what's left of them or their experiments around Skyrim.
>>339900797
That's a little better, but there's still no reason to actually take Nocturnal's deal since you don't even get the powers until after you've dealt with Mercer.
I recall Karliah outright saying that Mercer is too powerful and you need Noctural at your back to stand a chance. Yet Nocturnal does absolutely nothing for you until you clean up the mess.
So you need to sell your soul for the power to defeat Mercer, but you do not receive the power to defeat Mercer until you defeat Mercer. Maybe it's a metaphor for the only key to the locked box being inside the locked box.
>you actually assassinate the mother fucking emperor
>game world doesn't acknowledge it in the slightest
>>339901915
One little bit of world building that I found a nice touch was when I was dicking around all those shipwrecks on the north coast.
Next to one of them an Argonian camp a little encampment with a bunch of gems and other valuables in it.
You can't interact with him at all, but its easy to tell its an Argonian salvager using his waterbreathing to loot sunken ships.
Remember that rumor about the bug jars?
>>339901198
Sometimes the only winning move isnot to play.
>>339902126
Bethesda needs to do more show don't tell shit like this because they're pretty good at showing and usually terrible at telling.
>>339902126
So that faggot who tries making you sink a ship and betrays you after?
>>339902160
https://youtu.be/CLQVfHVdDZg
https://youtu.be/dBqQAOmIwmY
I liked doing all the stuff with Neloth but that's just because I really liked Neloth from Morrowind. I was severely disappointed in Mephala's quest though. I find it sad that Mephala is such an interesting Daedric Lord yet Bethesda has only given her one good quest so far.
That one where that faggot Daedra Prince roofies you and you marry that witch
>>339902126
Somewhere in the southeast, near Riften there's a burned down house with a circle of candles, a charred corpse, and a summon flame atronach spellbook.
Some poor sap tried to summon himself a waifu and got burned.
>>339902072
>Says it took her years to perfect the formula on her paralysis arrows
>Only made a single fucking arrow despite having the recipe, and uses it on you because Mercer nothing personals you unavoidably
So uh if Mercer didn't use you as bait would she have just paralyzed and shanked him? I thought he was unbeatable without Nocturnal intervention. Somehow.
>>339900291
>she didn't see me taking it, but somehow knows
I think Kodlak does that, too. When I went down for the witch head quest once, he told me that he knows about my thieving ways and expects me to pay up. That was after I sneakily took his daedra heart for the Malacath quest.
>>339902126
I remember wondering about that guy too. I found out later he's just a one-off assassination target, no real history or anything that I recall.
>>339902380
No, this is a different guy.
>>339902380
Nah its this guy
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Deekus
>>339898597
Azura
>>339902126
>You can't interact with him at all, but its easy to tell its an Argonian salvager using his waterbreathing to loot sunken ships.
You can when you do Dark Brotherhood quests. He is a contract target.
>>339902085
>walking around in his robes
>HEH, YOU'RE THE NEW WHELP THAT JOINED THE COMPANIONS
remember in morrowind when walking around in Indornil armor would cause any Ordinator to kill you on sight because foreigners are not allowed to be Ordinators so you obviously shouldn't be wearing it
>>339889338
The best quest is that nightmare staff i feel that quest alone could be an awesome fantasy movie or book
>>339903109
The nightmare quest in Oblivion was better
>>339898597
Actually if you consider the really old games I believe Azura was allied to Molag Bal. That and considering Azura always gets what she wants in the end it's kinda clear she probably sees her followers as much of puppets as the others just she's nicer to them. Vivec had the right idea trying to end the worship of them.
So I told Azura to make her own servile race
And she bound them to Lorkhan instead
The absolute madwoman
I really don get why you fags say that quests don't change anything in the world
The main quest gets rid of dragons
Civil war quest changes Jarls and guards so that you can basically do whatever the fuck you want in the city because all the guards are more lenient. Plus some cities will get a decimation overhaul.
Thiefs guild prevents all random thiefs on the roads from targeting you as well as more thief guild activity in the cities, plus you can bribe guards without grinding up speech.
Assasins quild prevent you from being targeted by assasins and you get to kill the Emperor.
Mages guild helps you find the Elder Scroll.
All of that adds up to changing the world dynamics.
>>339903079
The quest where you poison the false emperor has the same problem, but much worse.
You can walk into the city in full assasin gear, with weapons strapped to your body and nobody gives a shit, not even the guy who is in charge of destroying your group. The only one who gives you lip for your attire is the cook and she only does it, because you are not wearing a chef's hat in the kitchen.
>>339903502
You do realize the Civil War was literally cut in its entirety to meet the 11/11/11 release date right?
The battle of Whiterun is a tiny fragment of the system Beth had in place before they scrapped it all. And you can't fucking lose the battle of Whiterun.
>>339903502
>Assasins quild prevent you from being targeted by assasins and you get to kill the Emperor.
The point is that killing the Emperor should have some kind of impact beyond some offhanded comments considering he's the leader of the entire fucking empire you know.
>>339903502
>The main quest gets rid of dragons
Except it doesn't.
>>339903502
>The main quest gets rid of dragons
Doesn't finishing the mq actually increase the number of dragon encounters? I only ever beat it once because it's terrible and that was a while ago so it might have been patched but I'm pretty sure that was a thing.
>>339903502
This post made me realize I don't have any variants of "wow, it's fucking nothing" in any of my folders. Not even the original.
Huh.
>>339903770
Yes. It should have triggered a bunch of turmoil and possibly the Thalmor breaking the treaty and trying to finish what they started.
A fucking Emperor dying is kind of a big deal.
Can we get Azura's realm or something in the next ES? More Daedcric Princes and their realms are always welcome.
Especially the ones where mortals live, like the Shivering Isles.
>>339903670
>The only one who gives you lip for your attire is the cook and she only does it, because you are not wearing a chef's hat in the kitchen.
...I missed out on this bit of dialogue. I couldn't resist playing dressup.
>>339895195
>>339895684
>>339896039
I think because of all the general flak they got for doing that stuff they're going to try something else.
Plus why waste the money on another VA when they know people prefer silent protag?
>>339903802
Yeah it gets rid of random encouters, not the dragons that are on the mountaintops though, or the unique buried ones.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/syI9xXE.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
But what about that whodunit quest in Oblivion?
Or the quest where you can drop the mounted animal head on that one dude in Anvil (I think)?
Or that quest where the grand champion of the arena has a tragic past and begs you to either kill him or figure out his true past?
Or the entirety of the Shivering Isles?
Or the whole Dark Brotherhood questline?
Or watching the Grey Fox become weary of his life of crime, passing the torch to you to live a normal life of his own?
>>339902442
Holy crap that's some DaS lore thread tier shit.
>Random dragon fag shows up
>Instead of doing the landing animation just falls out of the sky
>Dies instantly on hitting the ground
ok
>>339903770
Thats not how Empires work you mongoloids
Caesar was stabbed by his own people and was simply replaced
>>339904192
The Oblivion Thieves guild is infinitely better than the Skyrim Thieves guild.
This is not up for debate.
>>339904192
>Or that quest where the grand champion of the arena has a tragic past and begs you to either kill him or figure out his true past?
I never finish the arena quest anymore because that part depresses the shit out of me.
>>339895886
Oblivion wasn't like that at all
>join imperials
>walk up to ulfric and shout his shit
>essential
That would have made too much sense, I guess.
>>339899506
Fuck off you dirty BR, no one want you here.
>>339904338
>Caesar was stabbed by his own people and was simply replaced
I don't have nearly enough laughing anime girls for this.
Molag Bal was kinda nice but eh all the quests in Skyrim sucked ass
>that Dark Brotherhood questline
>after the masterpiece that was Oblivion's
>>339904338
Also since it's no longer the Septim line having the Emperor die is really no big deal since he's no longer the living incarnation of basically Akatosh. I think, fuck it's been forever since I've played Oblivion and paid attention to lore.
>>339904160
>Yeah it gets rid of random encouters
Nope. They still appear. Paarthurnax even justifies it with his little speech at the end, saying that not all dragons will bow to him.
>>339903754
Yeah, didn't even know that until I found a mod that restored most of the cut content.
In all honesty they should've just released the civil war part as a free story dlc, and had hints about it happening instead having you broker a temporary peace in season unending that collapses after the main quest.
>>339903770
>The point is that killing the Emperor should have some kind of impact beyond some offhanded comments considering he's the leader of the entire fucking empire you know.
The emperor was weak, and we never see the damage we cause in any of the games really for sidequests.
>>339904357
The Grey Fox's talk before handing you the mask was full of emotion. It's so great.
Really, Oblivion was just a great game overall. I just remembered the drowned troll with the depressing note under a bridge, and reverse pickpocketing people poisoned apples to get away with murder in the Dark Brotherhood.
Skyrim was a let down. Fallout 4 was straight trash.
>>339904615
I think skyrim actually did a much better job at the daedric artifact quests, but that's mainly because most of them sucked in oblivion.
Weird considering oblivion was a game centered around fucking daedra.
Which there are practically none of in skyrim.
![361782028_0582de167b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vkWe7dM.jpg "361782028_0582de167b[1].jpg")
Mee wurst troll evurr
nobuddy pay brijj tole
me nott sceary enuf
mee gett drunc an kil sellf
troll droun
>>339904615
>Molag Bal was kinda nice
>kill this guy
>go get that guy
>kill him till he likes it
>>339904559
The civil war that followed in Rome parallels pretty well with the civil war motifs of Skyrim
>>339895380
The thieves guild in Skyrim can barely be considered thieves, and they also have so little influence on the region as whole.
Now the thieves guild in Oblivion are absurd. They might be even more powerful than the Dark Brotherhood over there.
After all they can steal a friggin Elder Scroll from the White-gold tower, right under the cult of the Ancestor Moth's noses who are one of the most powerful organizations in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyiwIBq3lrI
>>339905076
>>339905117
The real reward wasn't even the mace. It was the house.
>>339897298
>creative spellmaking
>paralyze + frost damage over time
>literally freezing enemies solid
>>339905007
>Which there are practically none of in skyrim.
?
>>339905205
Oblivion thieves are real fucking thieves. You actually had to gather tools and shit to pull off a huge ass heist of an Elder Scroll.
Skyrim thieves are petty crooks who operate in fucking broad daylight and apparently recruit anyone who walks through the town gate. And you have to fellate a Daedric Prince in order to kill some invincible-but-not-really guy in unavoidable combat which has fucking nothing to do with thievery.
>>339905537
How is spellmaking any different from Skyrim enchanting? Like Dual enchanting a bow with paralize and frost enchants?
Genuinely curious because never played Morrowind and hear all the time autists splerge about spellmaking.
So how do Argonians even survive in Skyrim?
