What went wrong?
Can it ever recover?
>>339859202
they are going to jew people out with 3rd visual camera by daylight
>What went wrong ?
Too much DLC that made players angry and unwilling to play, and Goddamn MT's
>Will it ever recover?
I doubt it. I reinstalled and me and mates had a blast, game is still fun, but OVK has pretty much sealed it's reputation for most of their fans, forever in some cases.
>>339859724
MTs are being phased out
I believe they bought the game from the jew as well
>starbreeze bought the rights to payday from 505
>overkill's already working on unfucking the game
It'll recover, it's just a matter of time. I don't know how the fuck a scumbag company like 505 Games got a hold of the franchise though.
>>339859202
They're removing micro transactions and giving everyone grenades. So, yeah, its a start.
Don't buy anything from them yet, though.
>>339860452
word is they are bringing no mercy back as well from payday the heist
as much as i hate collaborations for this game at least they are actually listening to the fans again
>>339859202
>What went wrong?
DLC got out of hand, and the guy holding back the microtransactions left.
Community that remained were a bunch of abused wives that go back to abusive husbands
>Can it ever recover?
While micros still exist, no.
I think the Chivalry DLC was the true point of no return.
Other DLC was egregious, but it was never outright fucking worthless.
>>339859202
>What went wrong?
catering to the lowest common denominator (meme spouters)
actually update 100, OVK bought payday back from starbreeze, they're removing microtransactions and lowering all next prices of DLC's.
proof: http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/update100/
It's coming back lads. It's coming back.
>>339861761
Well, shit.
If they follow through, I might actually pick this up again
Just fucking kill the game already and start over with payday 3
>>339861761
Holy shit.
Wait so does Overkill own Payday now?
I thought it was Starbreeze who bought it from 505, not Overkill who bought it from Starbreeze?
Will they lower the price of the existing DLCs like they lowered the price of the old DLCs like a year ago?
>>339861761
>18 months of support
they better be working in parallel on a new game that's not as much of a grindfest
>>339861761
Well fuck.
Microtransactions where the only reason why I stopped playing.
Well, that and that they shitted out character DLCs for 8,99 every month.
>>339864813
>8,99
What? They've always been $5
>>339861761
They did not and they are not.
Starbreeze bought Payday from 505. Overkill is Starbreeze since 2012, even before PD2 release.
They are removing drills, next gen safes will be free to open, skins will be marketable same as now. Probably will have a lot lower drop rare to keep market balance.
>>339864916
Still too much for my taste.
My favourite DLC was still the Hotline Miami one. 3 great guns, Melee Weapons, Masks and a new heist.
Meanwhile the new DLCs are just heist + mask or character + guns and 4 melee weapons
>>339861761
Also new skill trees are fucking GOOD. Like really GOOD.
update the fucking OST god damnnit
>>339863728
>Just fucking kill the game already
Why the fuck do you even care?
>>339859202
>What went wrong?
Starbreeze pushed too much little DLC
People cared too much about little DLC
>Can it ever recover?
At its core, PAYDAY 2 isn't a bad game. Heists are really as deep as some PAYDAY: The Heist ones, but they've shown improvement over the years and PAYDAY 2 has always had more fun variety.
It's a real shit situation that a lot of people hate the game just because "microtransactions" is a trigger word, but now that OVERKILL is removing them, at least more people will judge the game based on the actual gameplay, and feedback will become more constructive criticism instead of the mess it is now.
>>339865327
Do the new heists not have guns included?
Also isn't the Point Break pack two new heists?
What DLCs are worth getting anymore? In exactly two weeks it will have been a year since I bought anything for this game.
>>339865549
The new skill trees are fucked. They're fun, but have managed to make the game even easier than it already was.
Too much shit added in a very lazy manner.
If they refined all of that shit it would be pretty much perfect. There is still no true heist simulator as perfect as this is in a general sense, they just did too much with 2. The overstaturation of dlc did not help either.
I went to the Payday Convention last year in Seattle.
It was pretty cool. We got free tacos and drinks and then free grilled cheese.
>>339865942
New heists have guns
Point Break does have two heists
Point Break, Gage Ninja, Yakuza, or Sokol are all decent enough, but with all the free weapons, being able to join Heists you don't own, and having the chance to play as a character you don't own, there's nothing in that pic really left to get.
>>339865942
Is that a pic from your steam page?
>>339866573
>having the chance to play as a character you don't own
I'm pretty sure it's not an option since last crimefest.
>>339866642
Yeah.
>>339866752
You don't have to fill all priority slots in heister pick, random is still random.
>>339859202
>continued support for 18 more months!
Jesus H Christ, just put it down of it's misery, you fucks.
>>339866843
OK. Casino heist - people used to buy it for the tazer melee, but we have almost 100% similar melee for free now. Sokol - grinder perk deck for the dodge players. Ninja pack - nice auto sniper rifle. Yakuza - katana that can cut cloacker in 2 if used by Jiro and very good melee by itself. Chivalry pack - apart from throwable weapon that 1 shots cloackers i can't say anything good about it. Point breack - fun heists and mayby the best pistol in the game, we have now almost 100% free copy of it, but this one is still a little better. Goat heis - fun heist and very fun shotgun. Sydney - very good perk deck for armor and finally a rifle with a drum mag.
>>339859202
>>339859724
The original developers of Payday recently bought the rights back from Starbreeze. But it might be way too late to repair the reputation these days.
>>339861761
Interesting
>>339866027
Should have gone with the original idea of only giving you 100 points for one.
>>339867878
What i learn since the last crimefest and all that deal with microtransactions, is that haters gonna hate. I don't know how many people started spaming everywhere that they are leaving the game and they never stopped, they return almost every day to post how much they hate this game and how much they glad tht they uninstalled it 6 months ago.
Bulldozer is cute! CUTE!
Right, haven't played since the crimefest clusterfuck, so give it to me straight; What's changed since then?
Are the basic mechanics the same, and has any build/weapon type become straight up unusable?
I spent a lot of hours into it, but only got maybe 5 of the seemingly endless number of DLCs that were never worth the pricetag. It just became tedious anyway
>>339859202
Not until it makes the game enjoyable again. It's a responsive shooter with a good soundtrack and feels great when working with friends.
That's about it. The stealth mechanics suck. The amount of shit you can do sucks in comparison to the whole "heist" shit it's always drilling and blowing shit up, there's no creativity.
Game needs to die, and then rebuilt from the ground up, fresh, as Payday 3. Ditch all the shitty characters save the originals, go back to the drawing board, explore a vast amount of options and make a better, less overpowered skill system (which doesn't require you to prestige 4 times before your skill setup is no longer inefficient)
tl;dr Payday 2 is tarnished as fuck. Payday 3 and that shitty horror game they're making that's ripping off Damned, might not be, if they can reign it in.
They built up a great fanbase once and the wikia and discussions are still active as fuck...but the community is now a pile of flaming toxic shit.
Oh and some anti-cheat shit would be nice for 3, just sayin.
>>339865782
Probably doesn't want to get jewed out as much and would rather a new game from scratch.
Watch as payday 3 has MT from the beginning.
>>339868502
>prestige 4
i can see that you did not played long enough, opinion disregarded.
>>339868502
tell me a way to open a safe aside from the ones in the game
>>339868502
>Oh and some anti-cheat shit would be nice for 3, just sayin.
And find a better way to handle your files. An average PAYDAY 2 hotfix takes longer to install than a full ~10GB game
>>339868798
>Probably doesn't want to get jewed out as much and would rather a new game from scratch
>does not want to give some cash to devs
>but want devs to spent millions on the game tailored to him
Don't get me wrong, i pirate games as if i'm Black Beard reincarnated, but i never bitch about the stuff i could not get because i need to pay for it but i refuse to.
>>339859202
DLC happened.
And no, they've lost most of their playerbase, many of whom are too tired of the game to return even if it's ever fixed.
Besides, anyone who paid for DLC will be angry if they ever "fix" the game.
there are many reasons for why I stopped playing the game after putting over 700 hours on it, and for me not wanting to come back to it
the main reasons are the shift the game and Overkill went through from what the community used to love
the game became a fuckfest with an unreasonable ammount of unnecessary DLCs and characters, the gameplay was less focused and the tone of the game was lost
Overkill lost the ability to properly communicate with the players and stopped caring about the community, the game became too big for them to manage it
microtransactions were just the last nail in the coffin and just served as a confirmation of what the game and Overkill had become, the fact that they are now removing the paid skins doesn't mitigate the damage that years of poor choices caused to the community
if people want to go back and play the game, have at it
but I personally don't find reasons to accept what the game became just because Overkill acknowledged their colossal fuckups
>>339859202
Putting aside the recent changes like skins that change stats I'd say the biggest problem is the XP grind fest.
Why does this fucking game have levels? It doesn't add anything except a repetitive grind. You can't find any pubs playing for fun, instead they only do the most rewarding heists, in the most efficient way, resetting the moment anything goes wrong.
$7000 in dlc
>>339869404
Grinding I can get over, it's when you can just buy a better gun with cash that bothers me.
The fact that only now, with the 100th update, can non-DLC buyers own a grenade should tip you off to what went wrong.
>>339869856
>buy a better gun with cash
Most of the best rifle in the game are free, you can still "win" with only free stuff.
>"We changed guys, promise! Come back!"
>from the same guy who said micro transactions were always a thought, even after they said they wouldn't do it
>from the people who waited until the game was dying to decide to finally change
>before they announce Payday 3
They're trying to get some goodwill and fans back after spurning so many, don't believe their lies.
>>339869404
The Grind is just there as an illusion of progression, to stop high levels getting boring, and to encourage force a change up every so often.
It's completely optional once you've done it once, and it really doesn't take long at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afzeMbG4s_g
WHAT ABOUT THE SECRET!?
>>339870406
My problem is not with the grind itself being difficult but the effect it has on how players play the game.
How's that Anarchist perk deck for someone that loves his ICTV?
>>339871383
Very good, 400 armor, but only 115 health, and you regenerate armor by hurting bots. Potentialy you may never loose ALL of your armor during the heist even on DW.
>>339859202
Console patch when?
Now before you all start your masterrace thumbdrive danceathon, look at this way.
They abandoned the console versions even though they promised updates. Wouldn't them fulfilling those promises garner more goodwill towards them?
>505 loses the licence to overkill and starbreeze
>microtransactions removed
GEE WHAT A KOINKIDINK
>>339873180
>They abandoned the console versions even though they promised updates.
Not really, consoles are a bitch to get rolling content to since high security and what not. But yes. feels pretty dead..
is the mauser pistol still shit
>>339873475
depends on your definition of shit
>>339869213
They just fixed that with update 100.
I'm thinking of reinstalling again for that reason alone.
>>339873587
last i checked it had 50 accuracy base and the only way to make it not shit was to turn it into an abomination of nature
>>339873759
then it's still shit, but not as shit
>>339873958
not as shit? You mean it was even WORSE after the weapon changes? Fucking hell man, it was my favorite pistol, i'm not putting a barrel on it, i'm not adding a scope, this is a vintage piece goddammit.
>>339873180
Not to shit on consoles, but it is very difficult to keep a console version up to the PC parity.
They have so many extra hoops to jump through with Sony and Microsoft that it's much more challenging than just pushing a patch to Steam.
Doesn't Microsoft still charge developers to patch their games? I remember hearing that about a certain game, the name eludes me right now
>>339868470
It's all different. You have all the basic skills you had in payday 1 and more now. There's still guns that are clear leaders in their categories but most guns have been brought up to be considerable options down to your preferences on ammo, fire rate, aesthetics etc.
>>339874243
>Doesn't Microsoft still charge developers to patch their games?
no they stopped doing that in like 2011, it was the one thing Don Mattrick did right.
>>339874065
no, I mean it got better, but the accuracy is still shit.
>>339874381
why the fuck did they do this to my pistol man, everything now does over 40 damage, but what's the point if I can't hit fucking anything with it?
>>339874371
Oh, well that's good to hear. Talk about an anti-consumer policy.
>>339859202
Overkills releasing a TWD game, thoughts?
>>339874557
>pay 5.99$ to play as Lee
mite b cool
will probably be decent.
>>339861761
Microtransactions are NOT being completely removed from the game, that would just fuck over everyone that messed with safes and drills in the first place.
Every safe made BEFORE Update 100 is now FINITE and will NOT DROP ANYMORE
Every safe made AFTER Update 100 will NOT REQUIRE A DRILL, and will be FREE TO OPEN
ALL SAFES CAN STILL BE SOLD ON THE MARKET, but NO FUTURE SAFES REQUIRE DRILLS TO OPEN THEM
>>339863867
Overkill is a daughter company of starbreeze
>>339874557
I was interested in that STORM game, but I'm not so sure with how things are now.
>>339860452
>starbreeze
Isn't that Vin Diesel's studio?
>>339860621
>Code Silver 2017
So, can I customize my hideout yet?
I find it fun you guys are actually discussing this game instead of the shitshow of /vg/ threads where doom sayers are trying to turn returning people away
Does Payday has US presidents masks like Point Break?Was the remake any good?
>>339876996
There's a Dubya Bush, Nixon, Clinton and Obama mask in one of the DLC packs.
>>339876889
>So, can I customize my hideout yet?
Apparently they finaly started working on it.
>>339876996
>Does Payday has US presidents masks like Point Break
If not since day 1, there is Obama mask and Clinton mask nd some others. Big Bank had pic related.
>>339876889
lolno
>>339877419
Do you know when they started working on it, or an ETA?
It's such a silly and stupid feature, yet I'm excited by it. I still remember the tutorial stating you can customize it. I just want to pimp it out or make it cozy and rest there in between matches. That would make me reinstall.Or even buy a 5 dollar DLC for it
I also remember getting like 3 achievements in the tutorial, one was for catching a bag before it hit the floor
>>339870054
underrated post
>>339878520
>Do you know when they started working on it, or an ETA?
They promised to give more details by the end of the spring but they didn't. BUT they are definetly working on it, all i can remember is that costumasing it would cost some kind of new in game currency, and i think you would be able to invite people.
>>339879510
Hmm. Good enough for me. I'm a patient person.
>Payday 2 + Animal Crossing DLC Pack now available!!
>>339870054
>still salty about grenades
>when you can now equip 6 sniper turrets
its not like the game is easier than ever
So, I havent played in a while and my mouse movement feels REALLY fucking sluggish. Like I'm moving the cursor through Vaseline.
My computer randomly restarted a few weeks ago, and installed Windows 10 without ever asking me. Is that the problem here?
>>339879510
>it would cost some kind of new in game currency
But... they were promising this since before the game even LAUNCHED, and they said you would be able to use the money in your offshore account :(
>>339881925
payday 2 has always have a weird things with mouse you might have to unfuck it to get it playable and even thought it won't feel good
>>339881925
Here's a tutorial for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2F1rFmyQmY
>>339882050
>offshore
Nope, absolutely new currency that you earn somehow in game.
>>339880532
>waaaa limiting our playstyle in our p2p game is GOOD because they gave us some OP shit 3 years into the game's development
Isn't there a votekick system that people use like crazy?
>>339883760
>votekick
I thought i heard the last of it when they finally put it in the game after all that whining from each new player, and nobody fucking uesd it.
>>339874824
Do you not know what microtransactions are?
>>339883760
NGBTO or whatever it's called, essentially it kicks you for trivial things like having private/friends-only steam profile, or if you have less than X hours, if your level isn't high enough, if your infamy isn't high enough etc.
I think there's also mods that kick you for using certain characters or builds.
>>339885880
Tfw i am XXV-100 and have more than 1200 hours in.
